1. #1121
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    Wallco, I should probably ask this in MLB thread, but this thread (outside of this Kenny moron) is full of less bullshit. I saw where you play the Opening Day system as a chase. Do you have your results playing it that way from last season? Also, did you just play each game to win 1x+losses?

    Thanks

  2. #1122
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Yes, am trying to tweak a few things with the MLB Plu$$.
    hey why tweak your baseball system you were only down 100 units! Until the c loss tonight you were getting close to being even. Well keep plowing away plenty more -300 games in this system.

  3. #1123
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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyM10 View Post
    You keep telling everyone to take -300 on every game and calling it a system. Nice loss on Cleveland gray balls.
    I think Kenny M10 must work for one of the books. Why else would someone come around talking nonsense when Wallco is up over 80 units?

  4. #1124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutler'sThumb View Post
    I think Kenny M10 must work for one of the books. Why else would someone come around talking nonsense when Wallco is up over 80 units?
    +90 now!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunner24 View Post
    Wallco, I should probably ask this in MLB thread, but this thread (outside of this Kenny moron) is full of less bullshit. I saw where you play the Opening Day system as a chase. Do you have your results playing it that way from last season? Also, did you just play each game to win 1x+losses?

    Thanks
    Didn't play it last year.

  6. #1126
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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyM10 View Post
    You keep telling everyone to take -300 on every game and calling it a system. Nice loss on Cleveland gray balls.
    Not a loss yet, madam.

  7. #1127
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutler'sThumb View Post
    I think Kenny M10 must work for one of the books. Why else would someone come around talking nonsense when Wallco is up over 80 units?
    Nah, jealousy is just eating her up. It's becoming more apparent and absolutely hillarious with each post. It is absolutely killing her that the sytem REFUSES TO LOSE. And even if it does, it won't matter, because we are so far into the black. It's kind of cool getting ripped when your two systems are up well over +100 units total, shows I really matter to her, and that is special! The more she rips, the more we've been winning, thanks, and keep it up!
    Last edited by Wallco99; 04-01-12 at 02:51 AM.

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    wallco is the man who gets it done.

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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2011-12 System to date: 58-2 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +20.71 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-8.26 units)

    (3/31/12):
    #61 Cleveland (+11½) (C) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 36-25
    (B) 10-15

    (C) 9-6
    (D) 3-2

    V2 Plays
    In production


    There are no system plays for (4/1/12):
    #61 Resumes (B) on 4/3/12


    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

  10. #1130
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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 201-7 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +90.31 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-1.45 units)

    (3/31/12):
    #208 Boston (M/L) (A) - Win
    #209 Montreal (+1½) (A) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 84-67
    (B) 48-18

    (C) 13-5
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u), PHO (-9.61 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 40-18
    (B) 7-11

    (C) 9-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    Games for (4/1/12):
    #207 Boston (+1½) @ N.Y. Rangers (B) (7:05 pm EDT)
    #210 Ottawa @ N.Y. Islanders (M/L) (A) (3:05 pm EDT)


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 04-01-12 at 02:23 PM.
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  11. #1131
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    1-1 with B bet coming through with Ease.

    +91

  12. #1132
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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2011-12 System to date: 58-2 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +20.71 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-8.26 units)

    v1 Plays
    (A) 36-25
    (B) 10-15

    (C) 9-6
    (D) 3-2

    V2 Plays
    In production


    Games for (4/2/12):
    #61 Resumes (D) on 4/3/12
    #62 Utah (**) @ Portland (A) (10:05 pm EDT)

    ** Denotes line not available at time of post


    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.
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  13. #1133
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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 202-7 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +91.31 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-1.10 units)

    (4/1/12):
    #207 Boston (+1½) (B) - Win
    #210 N.Y. Islanders (+1½) (A) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 84-68
    (B) 49-18

    (C) 13-5
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u), PHO (-9.61 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 40-18
    (B) 7-11

    (C) 9-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    There are no system plays for (4/2/12):
    #210 Resumes (B) on 4/3/12

  14. #1134
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    See you tomorrow Wallco

  15. #1135
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    When is the E bet on the NBA 90 units to win one?

  16. #1136
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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2011-12 System to date: 59-2 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +21.71 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-8.26 units)

    (4/2/12):
    #62 Utah (+2) (A) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 37-25
    (B) 10-15

    (C) 9-6
    (D) 3-2

    V2 Plays
    In production


    Games for (4/3/12):
    #61 San Antonio @ Cleveland (+9) (D) (7:05 pm EDT)
    #63 Orlando (M/L) @ Detroit (A) (7:35 pm EDT)


    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 04-03-12 at 03:13 PM.

  17. #1137
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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 202-7 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +91.31 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-1.10 units)

    v1 Plays
    (A) 84-68
    (B) 49-18

    (C) 13-5
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u), PHO (-9.61 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 40-18
    (B) 7-11

    (C) 9-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    Games for (4/3/12):
    #210 Carolina (+1½) @ Ottawa (B) (7:35 pm EDT)
    #211 N.Y. Islanders (+1½) @ New Jersey (A) (7:05 pm EDT)
    #212 Columbus @ Phoenix (M/L) (A) (10:05 pm EDT)
    #213 Anaheim (+1½) @ Vancouver (A) (10:05 pm EDT)
    #214 Minnesota @ Nashville (M/L) (A) (8:05 pm EDT)


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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  18. #1138
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    Quote Originally Posted by KennyM10 View Post
    When is the E bet on the NBA 90 units to win one?
    It's always amusing how people are never satisfied no matter how well a system or systems are doing?

  19. #1139
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    great nhl wallco, but this CLE.. what's wrong with them ;x

  20. #1140
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    Wallco when is the next wallco gold pick on Cleveland? You buried me with an abcd loss.

  21. #1141
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    I had a feeling we'd be hearing from you tonight. Lol.

  22. #1142
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    Quote Originally Posted by nadroke View Post
    great nhl wallco, but this CLE.. what's wrong with them ;x
    The guy risked 12 units in hockey to win 1 or 2 and people wonder why sbr can afford to give gifts.

  23. #1143
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyCarl View Post
    I had a feeling we'd be hearing from you tonight. Lol.
    I have bad gas from reading this thread tonight.

  24. #1144
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    I think wallco is working on the -400 favorites for tomorrow.

  25. #1145
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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2011-12 System to date: 59-3 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +3.26 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-1.35 units)

    (4/3/12):
    #61 Cleveland (+9½) (D) - Loss
    #63 Orlando (M/L) (A) - Loss

    v1 Plays
    (A) 37-26
    (B) 10-15

    (C) 9-6
    (D) 3-3

    V2 Plays
    In production


    Games for (4/4/12):
    #63 Resumes (B) on 4/5/12
    #64 Golden State @ Minnesota (**) (A) (8:05 pm EDT)
    #65 Cleveland (+11½) @ Milwaukee (A) (8:05 pm EDT)

    ** Denotes line not available at time of post


    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

  26. #1146
    Wallco99
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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 206-7 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +95.31 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-2.00 units)

    (4/3/12):
    #210 Carolina (+1½) (B) - Win
    #211 N.Y. Islanders (+1½) (A) - Loss
    #212 Phoenix (M/L) (A) - Win
    #213 Anaheim (+1½) (A) - Win
    #214 Nashville (M/L) (A) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 87-69
    (B) 50-18

    (C) 13-5
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u), PHO (-9.61 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 40-18
    (B) 7-11

    (C) 9-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    There are no system plays for (4/4/12):
    #211 Resumes (B) on 4/5/12


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
    Last edited by Wallco99; 04-04-12 at 09:29 PM.
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  27. #1147
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    Hey Wallco,
    With the Fade NJD series being the last of the season I'd like to personally thank you on behalf of the silent majority that follows your plays (and occasionally gives you points).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illusivecone View Post
    Hey Wallco,
    With the Fade NJD series being the last of the season I'd like to personally thank you on behalf of the silent majority that follows your plays (and occasionally gives you points).
    You're welcome. Glad you enjoyed this extremely successful season. Even if some disaster would occur with this NJ series, we will be well into the black this year.

  29. #1149
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    I just joined and appears NHL was highly profitable for Wallco and crew. Congrats to all. I also saw that his MLB System(s) plays will be starting soon. Where will I be able to find those? Thanks in advance and BOL to all. I look forward to it.

  30. #1150
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    Quote Originally Posted by boroguy14 View Post
    I just joined and appears NHL was highly profitable for Wallco and crew. Congrats to all. I also saw that his MLB System(s) plays will be starting soon. Where will I be able to find those? Thanks in advance and BOL to all. I look forward to it.
    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/baseball-b...lb-thread.html

  31. #1151
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    Looks like the system that in your own words "refuses to lose dropped
    20 units of play money on Cleveland and wiped out your NBA profit for the year,

  32. #1152
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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2011-12 System to date: 60-3 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +4.26 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 2 (-3.85 units)

    (4/4/12):
    #64 Minnesota (M/L) (A) - Loss
    #65 Cleveland (+12) (A) - Win

    v1 Plays
    (A) 38-27
    (B) 10-15

    (C) 9-6
    (D) 3-3

    V2 Plays
    In production


    Games for (4/5/12):
    #63 N.Y. Knicks @ Orlando (**) (B) (7:05 pm EDT)
    #64 Resumes (B) on 4/7/12
    #66 Washington (**) @ Detroit (A) (7:35 pm EDT)

    ** Denotes line not available at time of post


    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a zero point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change, but it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from my post. On occasion, we will have plays that go head-head. The system will grade ALL bets, regardless of opponents, how you wish to play these games is your choice.

  33. #1153
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    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 206-7 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +95.31 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-2.00 units)

    v1 Plays
    (A) 87-69
    (B) 50-18

    (C) 13-5
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u), PHO (-9.61 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 40-18
    (B) 7-11

    (C) 9-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    Games for (4/5/12):
    #211 New Jersey @ Detroit (M/L) (B) (7:35 pm EDT)


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
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  34. #1154
    J.M. Disciple
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    Wallco NHL GOLD
    2011-12 System to date: 206-7 (fin. series)
    System profit/loss: +95.31 units (fin. series)
    Current open series: 1 (-2.00 units)

    v1 Plays
    (A) 87-69
    (B) 50-18

    (C) 13-5
    Losses: OTT (-10.96 u), EDM (-14.96 u), DET (-22.03 u), MIN (-15.02 u), PHO (-9.61 u)

    v2 Plays
    (A) 40-18
    (B) 7-11

    (C) 9-2
    Losses: MON (-18.60 u), DET (-19.51 u)


    Games for (4/5/12):
    #211 New Jersey @ Detroit (M/L) (B) (7:35 pm EDT)


    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. You may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and (-110) games, and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
    System rules & backtest can be found in posts #1 and #2.
    Anyone looking for better odds you can get Det -1 at +124 @ 5dimes. It allows for a push, but wont lose as much if they lose SU. If you already lost on A bet then I do not recommend this.

  35. #1155
    KennyM10
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    This thread is not about looking for good odds! It is about taking every +1.5 -400 play you can find and having a few foreigners thinking you are not clueless.

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