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    The Marlins announced that they’ve placed shortstop Adeiny Hechavarria on the 10-day disabled list due to a left oblique strain. In his place, they’ve selected the contract of Stephen Lombardozzi from Triple-A New Orleans. Right-hander Joe Gunkel has been designated for assignment in order to clear a roster spot for Lombardozzi.
    It’s been a rough week for the Marlins’ infield, as they’ve now lost both of the starters on the left side of the infield and their primary utility option to the DL. A hamstring strain sent Martin Prado to the 10-day DL on Monday, while a fractured thumb will cost Miguel Rojas several months of the season.
    With Hechavarria, Prado and Rojas all sidelined, it seems that the Marlins will utilize Derek Dietrich at third base, J.T. Riddle at shortstop and Lombardozzi in a utility role. Though Hechavarria doesn’t offer much with the bat, his stellar glovework at shortstop will be missed during his absence. Miami hasn’t provided any type of timeline for Hechavarria to return to action, but oblique injuries can often keep players out of action for a month or more.
    [Related: Updated Miami Marlins Depth Chart]
    For Lombardozzi, this will mark his first big league action since a brief 12-game stretch with the 2015 Pirates. The former Nationals farmhand was once regarded as one of the better prospects in Washington’s minor league ranks, though he’s never cemented himself as a regular bench option in the Majors. A second-generation big leaguer — his father, also named Steve, spent parts of six seasons in the Majors — Lombardozzi is a career .263/.294/.336 hitter in 840 plate appearances. He can play second base, third base, shortstop and in the outfield corners.
    Gunkel has bounced around the league quite a bit in the past month or so, going from the Orioles to the Dodgers to the Marlins in a series of minor transactions. Miami will hope that he’s able to clear waivers, but given that Gunkel is an upper-level starter with minor league options remaining, he could certainly be appealing to a team in need of rotation depth.
    The 25-year-old Gunkel has not yet made his Major League debut but has a solid minor league track record. He’s posted a 2.99 ERA in 150 1/3 career innings at the Double-A level and a 4.07 ERA in the exact same number of Triple-A innings. While he doesn’t miss many bats (6.0 K/9 in Triple-A), Gunkel has excellent control (1.1 BB/9) and keeps the ball on the ground at a roughly 40 percent clip.

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    Gunkel one walk per 9 inning is impressive. Major league strike is a bit tighter though

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    This guy Altherr on the Phillies is putting up some nice numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    I don't think Puckett is quite in the same class as Gwynn or Boggs.
    pretty close

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    Kirby Puckett was definitely in that category.

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    Alberto Collapso is third in the Atlantic League in hitting.
    Not to long ago he hit .288 for the Angels for a full season.
    Year and a half ago he hit .260 for the Dodgers.

    He now plays for the Bridgebort Bluefish of the Atlantic League.
    The Bridgeport Bluefish play their home game five minutes up the road from me here in Connecticut.
    For 8 bucks you can sit behind the catcher and watch former big leaguers play because they love the game and don't want to give it up and kids with a lot of talent praying some scout that overlooked him the first time doesn't the second time.

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    Nicholas Castellanos has a major league-leading 15 hard-contact line drive/fly balls that resulted in outs -- that's five more than anyone else has. He's hitting with good power to all fields, has ordinary looking Rotisserie numbers and the Tigers' lineup around him should only improve as their bigger names get healthier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Gwynn and Boggs were my generations greatest hitters.
    I mean pure hitters, Boggs when he hit a homerun he'd call it a 'mistake'.

    Bonds (PED's or n0 PED's) had all that power, but for the beauty of pure hitting, give me Gwynn and Boggs, want to throw Puckett into the mix, go ahead, won't argue.

    If you ask me Pete Rose was a compiler, to a certain extent so was Jeter, but Jeter did it in the clutch.
    To those who say there is no such thing as 'clutch' I say "go away", the are certain people you want up there with the season on the line, Dave Winfield is not one of them, Jeter is.
    Kirby not quite in that level, next tier down. Miggy on pace to finish closer to Boggs territory.

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    A little older but Rod Carew was right up there too .

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    Kirby not quite in that level, next tier down. Miggy on pace to finish closer to Boggs territory.
    This is Miggy's best 12 year consecutive run (from 2004 - 2015) Fla. Det.



    Year Tm PA G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
    2004-2015 FLA,DET 7976 1851 6944 1190 2247 471 13 396 1383 38 18 911 1316 0.324 0.402 0.566 0.969
    Average 665 154 579 99 187 39 1 33 115 3 2 76 110
    per 162 games 702 163 612 105 198 42 2 35 122 4 2 81 116


    This is mystery players 12 consecutive seasons.
    Mystery player played for 16 MLB seasons. Miggy is in his 15th MLB season.

    Who is Mystery Player, that played pretty much in the same time period as Miggy?

    PA G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
    7445 1751 6648 1139 2146 398 42 395 1277 172 83 666 827 0.323 0.388 0.574 0.962 147
    620 146 554 95 179 33 4 33 106 14 7 56 69
    693 163 619 106 200 38 4 37 119 16 8 62 77


    Miggy hit 396 homers in that 12 consecutive year span, Mystery Player hit 395.
    However Mystery Man struck out only 77 times per 162 game on the average, Miggy 116 times.

    These are the slash lines.
    Miggy .324/.402/.566/.902 35 HR 122 RBI per 162
    MyMan.323/.388/.574/.962 37 HR 119 RBI per 162

    So?
    Who is MYSTERY MAN?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    This is Miggy's best 12 year consecutive run (from 2004 - 2015) Fla. Det.



    Year Tm PA G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
    2004-2015 FLA,DET 7976 1851 6944 1190 2247 471 13 396 1383 38 18 911 1316 0.324 0.402 0.566 0.969
    Average 665 154 579 99 187 39 1 33 115 3 2 76 110
    per 162 games 702 163 612 105 198 42 2 35 122 4 2 81 116


    This is mystery players 12 consecutive seasons.
    Mystery player played for 16 MLB seasons. Miggy is in his 15th MLB season.

    Who is Mystery Player, that played pretty much in the same time period as Miggy?

    PA G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
    7445 1751 6648 1139 2146 398 42 395 1277 172 83 666 827 0.323 0.388 0.574 0.962 147
    620 146 554 95 179 33 4 33 106 14 7 56 69
    693 163 619 106 200 38 4 37 119 16 8 62 77


    Miggy hit 396 homers in that 12 consecutive year span, Mystery Player hit 395.
    However Mystery Man struck out only 77 times per 162 game on the average, Miggy 116 times.

    These are the slash lines.
    Miggy .324/.402/.566/.902 35 HR 122 RBI per 162
    MyMan.323/.388/.574/.962 37 HR 119 RBI per 162

    So?
    Who is MYSTERY MAN?
    Vlad Guerrero?

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    So many players being placed on the DL.

    Apparently a non-Kershaw Dodger pitching more than 6 innings means automatic DL stint.

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    The Blue Jays announced that left-hander Francisco Liriano has been placed on the 10-day disabled list due to inflammation in his left shoulder. Righty Leonel Campos has been called up from Triple-A Buffalo in a corresponding move. While Liriano becomes the third Blue Jays starter to land on the disabled list (joining J.A. Happ and Aaron Sanchez), Sportsnet’s Ben Nicholson-Smith tweets that the team is hopeful that Liriano won’t need to spend more than the minimum 10 days on the shelf. Right-hander Mike Bolsinger will remain in the rotation and make what would’ve been Liriano’s next scheduled start on Monday, per Nicholson-Smith.
    A few more notable injury updates from around the league…

    • The Rockies have placed shortstop Trevor Story on the 10-day DL due to a strained left shoulder, as Patrick Saunders of the Denver Post reports. Story initially suffered the injury two nights ago in at-bat against the Cubs, though his struggles at the plate have been an ongoing issue since Opening Day. Story took Major League Baseball by storm in 2016 when he hit 27 homers through just 415 plate appearances as a rookie, though a torn ligament in his thumb cut his season short in early August. It’s possible that there are some lingering effects of that issue, as Story has batted a woeful .180/.289/.396 with a 37.5 percent strikeout rate through his first 33 games in 2017.
    • The Dodgers have lost yet another starter to the disabled list, as right-hander Kenta Maeda has been placed on the 10-day disabled list due to tightness in his left hamstring. Maeda, who took a shutout into the ninth inning of last night’s game, has been excellent over his past three outings (2.21 ERA, 21-to-4 K/BB ratio in 20 1/3 innings) following a rough start to the season. There’s no word on precisely how long Maeda will be sidelined just yet, though he joins Rich Hill, Scott Kazmir, Brandon McCarthy and Brock Stewart on the L.A. disabled list.
    • Brewers slugger Ryan Braun is likely headed to the disabled list, per Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel (Twitter links). Braun recently had an MRI on a strained calf and has also been dealing with some forearm discomfort, and a short trip to the DL would allow him to rest up both issues. “I can’t really run or throw,” Braun told reporters (via Haudricourt). “Hopefully, if I get [a] little bit of downtime I’ll be able to get back to full strength.” That doesn’t sound like there’s a lengthy trip in order, but it certainly does seem to suggest that a DL placement is looming.
    • Carson Smith is throwing a pair of bullpen sessions this week for the Red Sox, writes WEEI’s Rob Bradford, but fellow right-hander Tyler Thornburg doesn’t appear to be that far along. Both Smith and Thornburg were acquired over the past two offseasons in an effort to help build a bridge to Craig Kimbrel, but injuries have prevented the Sox from reaping any value from either trade. ““With Tyler, we’ll still trying to get him through some more aggressive flatground work,” manager John Farrell told reporters earlier this week. “…“It’s been a little bit of a puzzle for all involved here including Tyler, because the MRI’s that he’s gone through, while showing a little bit of an impingement, hasn’t revealed anything more structural than that.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    Kirby not quite in that level, next tier down. Miggy on pace to finish closer to Boggs territory.
    Let's be honest, Boggs was not on Gwynn's level. He was for the beginning of his career but didn't have the sustained consistency and excellence..

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    Dodgers P Clayton Kershaw is looking to become the 1st pitcher to win 20 career games against the Rockies, breaking a tie with Randy Johnson. But Kershaw has fared better vs Colorado at home than on the road.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    Let's be honest, Boggs was not on Gwynn's level. He was for the beginning of his career but didn't have the sustained consistency and excellence..
    I take that back after sifting through some stats..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy117 View Post
    Vlad Guerrero?
    You would be correct sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    I take that back after sifting through some stats..
    I was going to take you on in that argument, but you did some more fact checking I see.
    In my eyes, throw out the stat book for a minute, the two of them were pretty much the same hitter.
    Both had incredible work ethic, Boggs claims and I totally agree hit could have hit 30 homers a season, but that meant altering his swing, tweaking mechanics, etc. etc. it's not what he was.

    Gwynn hit .300 plus 19 out of 20 seasons, if the bum (kidding) didn't hit .286 his rookie season he would have been 20 for 20.
    Gwynn was a stellar outfielder on defense, Boggs was an ordinary thrid baseman who made himself a borderline gold glove third baseman by taking a million groundballs every morning.

    the biggest difference was one (Gwynn) was a class act, the other (Boggs) was a nut job.
    Know this, when either one was announced coming up to bat, I stopped what I was doing to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    This is Miggy's best 12 year consecutive run (from 2004 - 2015) Fla. Det.



    Year Tm PA G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS
    2004-2015 FLA,DET 7976 1851 6944 1190 2247 471 13 396 1383 38 18 911 1316 0.324 0.402 0.566 0.969
    Average 665 154 579 99 187 39 1 33 115 3 2 76 110
    per 162 games 702 163 612 105 198 42 2 35 122 4 2 81 116


    This is mystery players 12 consecutive seasons.
    Mystery player played for 16 MLB seasons. Miggy is in his 15th MLB season.

    Who is Mystery Player, that played pretty much in the same time period as Miggy?

    PA G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS OPS+
    7445 1751 6648 1139 2146 398 42 395 1277 172 83 666 827 0.323 0.388 0.574 0.962 147
    620 146 554 95 179 33 4 33 106 14 7 56 69
    693 163 619 106 200 38 4 37 119 16 8 62 77


    Miggy hit 396 homers in that 12 consecutive year span, Mystery Player hit 395.
    However Mystery Man struck out only 77 times per 162 game on the average, Miggy 116 times.

    These are the slash lines.
    Miggy .324/.402/.566/.902 35 HR 122 RBI per 162
    MyMan.323/.388/.574/.962 37 HR 119 RBI per 162

    So?
    Who is MYSTERY MAN?

    i'm not sure I follow the 12 year/ 16 year thingies there

    i'll guess the most under rated modern era player ever...

    stan the man musial

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    oh, same time period

    and already answered....

    got it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    i'm not sure I follow the 12 year/ 16 year thingies there

    i'll guess the most under rated modern era player ever...

    stan the man musial
    The 12 consecutvie year thing was just me pointing out the two when they were both in their prime.

    Musial never got the propter attention because of the market (St. Louis) he played in in the era he played in (1940's - 1950's)
    20 time all star in a 22 year career, would have been 24 years except he served in the Navy two years.

    Most amazing fact, Musial struck out 696 times in 22 years, never struk out more than 50 in a season.
    Chris Davis strikes out 696 in less than three years, took Musial to do it in 22 years.

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    Bour just hit a homer with a 150 foot apex.
    That's what you call a moonshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I was going to take you on in that argument, but you did some more fact checking I see.
    In my eyes, throw out the stat book for a minute, the two of them were pretty much the same hitter.
    Both had incredible work ethic, Boggs claims and I totally agree hit could have hit 30 homers a season, but that meant altering his swing, tweaking mechanics, etc. etc. it's not what he was.

    Gwynn hit .300 plus 19 out of 20 seasons, if the bum (kidding) didn't hit .286 his rookie season he would have been 20 for 20.
    Gwynn was a stellar outfielder on defense, Boggs was an ordinary thrid baseman who made himself a borderline gold glove third baseman by taking a million groundballs every morning.

    the biggest difference was one (Gwynn) was a class act, the other (Boggs) was a nut job.
    Know this, when either one was announced coming up to bat, I stopped what I was doing to watch.
    Boggs went from the Red Sox to the Yankees, proof the players don't take rivalries anywhere near the way fans do. Watching him ride around Yankee stadium on a damn horse after the World Series made me sick.

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    Boggs didn't have power, but he could flat out hit!

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    Mets closer Jeurys Familia underwent surgery this afternoon, GM Sandy Alderson told reports including Mike Puma of the New York Post (links via Twitter) and Marc Carig of Newsday (Twitter links). The club announced yesterday that surgery was possible after Familia was diagnosed with an arterial clot in his right shoulder.
    The procedure to deal with the clot is expected to cost Familia several months of action — possibly keeping him out for the rest of the season. While thoracic outlet syndrome wasn’t implicated, the procedure evidently comes with a rather lengthy recovery timeline, as had seemed to be the case when the news broke yesterday.
    Obviously, the injury came as quite a surprise given that Familia pitched on Wednesday night without apparent issue (results aside). Alderson explains that the closer advised the organization for the first time before the game that he was experiencing some symptoms, but he was cleared to throw because they were not significant. Evidently, a closer look after Familia’s appearance led to the preliminary diagnosis and a quick turnaround to surgery.
    With the loss of Familia, the Mets are now staring at lengthy absences from their best reliever and their best starter, Noah Syndergaard. While there’s talent on hand to step into those roles — Addison Reed is more than capable of closing, while Jacob deGrom is an ace in his own right — the bigger issues arise further down the line. In this case, the club will no longer be able to turn the ball over to the bullpen with the expectation of consecutive shut-down innings (or more, in some cases, given Familia’s multi-inning capabilities).

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    Astros on fire 5 in a row. Blue Jays trying to claw back from that awful start

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    boggs was one of the best pure hitters in baseball

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    The 12 consecutvie year thing was just me pointing out the two when they were both in their prime.

    Musial never got the propter attention because of the market (St. Louis) he played in in the era he played in (1940's - 1950's)
    20 time all star in a 22 year career, would have been 24 years except he served in the Navy two years.

    Most amazing fact, Musial struck out 696 times in 22 years, never struk out more than 50 in a season.
    Chris Davis strikes out 696 in less than three years, took Musial to do it in 22 years.

    yep! Stan was the Man

    to me one of the most impressive was his winning 3 MVP's and he took 2nd in the MVP voting FOUR freaking times!

    1. Barry Bonds (7 wins) 9.30
    2. Stan Musial* (3 wins) 6.96
    3. Albert Pujols (3 wins) 6.91
    4. Ted Williams* (2 wins) 6.43
    5. Willie Mays* (2 wins) 5.94
    6. Mickey Mantle* (3 wins) 5.79
    7. Hank Aaron* (1 win) 5.45
    8. Lou Gehrig* (2 wins) 5.44
    9. Joe DiMaggio* (3 wins) 5.43
    10. Alex Rodriguez (3 wins) 5.23

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I was going to take you on in that argument, but you did some more fact checking I see.
    In my eyes, throw out the stat book for a minute, the two of them were pretty much the same hitter.
    Both had incredible work ethic, Boggs claims and I totally agree hit could have hit 30 homers a season, but that meant altering his swing, tweaking mechanics, etc. etc. it's not what he was.

    Gwynn hit .300 plus 19 out of 20 seasons, if the bum (kidding) didn't hit .286 his rookie season he would have been 20 for 20.
    Gwynn was a stellar outfielder on defense, Boggs was an ordinary thrid baseman who made himself a borderline gold glove third baseman by taking a million groundballs every morning.

    the biggest difference was one (Gwynn) was a class act, the other (Boggs) was a nut job.
    Know this, when either one was announced coming up to bat, I stopped what I was doing to watch.
    I had not looked at their individual lifetime stats in quite awhile. I didn't realize how many walks Boggs had and his OBP was better than Gwynn. Boggs did dip at the end of his career much more than Gwynn but the first half of his career you could easily argue was better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otters27 View Post
    Astros on fire 5 in a row. Blue Jays trying to claw back from that awful start
    Astros / Yanks already rained out today.
    Astros already 8 up in the division, it's not even May 15 yet, I think it's safe to say they will run away with the west and hide.
    Clearly the favorites to represent the AL in the fall classic.

    Jays have to catch Sox and Orioles, tough task.
    Bogaerts on a 15 game winning streak, Sale in a stopper postition this afternoon.
    That's why he gets the millions, he has to follow a team loss with a win.
    Yanks early feel good story, will fade though.
    That rotation is about as deep as a puddle.

    MY K.C. Royals on a mini streak, slowly gaining some momentum, Duff Man, Vargas pitching good all season, not buried at 5.5 out.
    Who knows........


    How about them division leading Minnesota Twins, would be nice for their fan base if they had a cinderella season like the 2014 Royals.
    Look for Cleveland to croak them today though, I saw a totally different Clevenger last week make a spot start for them, he goes again today, look for a similar performance.
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    From John Shea: SF current hope is Madison Bumgarner could pitch for them in early August.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koz-man View Post
    From John Shea: SF current hope is Madison Bumgarner could pitch for them in early August.
    Doesn't matter, they ain't sniffing October baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koz-man View Post
    From John Shea: SF current hope is Madison Bumgarner could pitch for them in early August.
    Too late to matter .

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    Cubs prospect Ian Happ hits a bomb for his 1st hit in the bigs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by koz-man View Post
    Dodgers P Clayton Kershaw is looking to become the 1st pitcher to win 20 career games against the Rockies, breaking a tie with Randy Johnson. But Kershaw has fared better vs Colorado at home than on the road.
    And when asked what it meant after he indeed win his 20th Kershaw replied "I guess that means I pitch against Colorado a lot"

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