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    I pounded Koch -120
    went to play it at -140 and got lucky that the line changed

    ok not really pounded but I hit it like I was Chris brown and it was snging about umbrellas
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I'm on the complete opposite side. I think Melancon's boxing is too sharp and he shouldn't be at a big wrestling disadvantage. He's been one of the most underrated guys for quite some time, but I'm surprised to see him open as a dog, especially such a big dog.
    I had a feeling you might be on him. Gastelums striking isn't that great so if Melancon's striking is decent enough he could make it interesting. He might be a better bet with +3.5 points.

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    Pounding Koch!

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    And ye Melancon shouldnt be the dog

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    Watched more tape, put more on Melancon at +130 just now. Seriously can't justify him being less than -150 here. He should definitely be favoured.

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    MelanCAN vs GasteBUM

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Watched more tape, put more on Melancon at +130 just now. Seriously can't justify him being less than -150 here. He should definitely be favoured.
    gastelum moving down from 185, isnt he? i think he will have enough of a wrestling edge to control where the fight goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    gastelum moving down from 185, isnt he? i think he will have enough of a wrestling edge to control where the fight goes.
    Yup. Won't look much bigger than Melancon though, they're both very short and stocky. I give a considerable striking edge and a decent wrestling edge to Melancon. I think that if Melancon wants to take him down, he probably can. Gastelum's clearest route to victory is a tiring grindfest where he really tests Melancon's cardio, but I honestly don't know if he's good enough to do that. The degree to which Melancon is better should be far too much. It's not even a close fight on paper in my opinion, I think Gastelum's will, potential improvement, and willingness to really get in Melancon's face make the fight a lot closer than it should be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Yup. Won't look much bigger than Melancon though, they're both very short and stocky. I give a considerable striking edge and a decent wrestling edge to Melancon. I think that if Melancon wants to take him down, he probably can. Gastelum's clearest route to victory is a tiring grindfest where he really tests Melancon's cardio, but I honestly don't know if he's good enough to do that. The degree to which Melancon is better should be far too much. It's not even a close fight on paper in my opinion, I think Gastelum's will, potential improvement, and willingness to really get in Melancon's face make the fight a lot closer than it should be.
    appreciate your thoughts, as usual. this is admittedly a bit of wikicapping, but i have trouble backing someone (melancon) who lost a decision to a 145lb fighter that i've never heard of (adam schindler). have you seen any footage of this fight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    appreciate your thoughts, as usual. this is admittedly a bit of wikicapping, but i have trouble backing someone (melancon) who lost a decision to a 145lb fighter that i've never heard of (adam schindler). have you seen any footage of this fight?
    Nope, never saw it. Not concerned with it to be honest. I really just think he's better in every single technical area than Gastelum is. Schindler isn't much smaller than Melancon by the way. They're the same height and they're both pretty thick guys. Calling Schindler a 145er is a bit misleading, he only had a couple of fights there, he looked awful in both of them and he immediately went back to 155. He was pretty much Rumblecutting to 145.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    appreciate your thoughts, as usual. this is admittedly a bit of wikicapping, but i have trouble backing someone (melancon) who lost a decision to a 145lb fighter that i've never heard of (adam schindler). have you seen any footage of this fight?
    Sssshhhh! Quiet please! If MD wants to walk off the Melancon cliff, then let him. Gastelum is winning this fight and I plan on putting my $ where my mouth is. I guess we will find out who was right soon enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Nope, never saw it. Not concerned with it to be honest. I really just think he's better in every single technical area than Gastelum is. Schindler isn't much smaller than Melancon by the way. They're the same height and they're both pretty thick guys. Calling Schindler a 145er is a bit misleading, he only had a couple of fights there, he looked awful in both of them and he immediately went back to 155. He was pretty much Rumblecutting to 145.
    i'll respond with more wikicapping, but this schindler was tko'd by ronnie mann, who fights at 135. Wish I could see that fight though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_Paul_2012 View Post
    Sssshhhh! Quiet please! If MD wants to walk off the Melancon cliff, then let him. Gastelum is winning this fight and I plan on putting my $ where my mouth is. I guess we will find out who was right soon enough.
    Good logic.

    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    i'll respond with more wikicapping, but this schindler was tko'd by ronnie mann, who fights at 135. Wish I could see that fight though.
    At featherweight, where he looked awful. Rumblecut bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    At featherweight, where he looked awful. Rumblecut bro.
    fair enough. i'd still be concerned about it, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    fair enough. i'd still be concerned about it, however.
    I always appreciate input, especially from someone whom I consider sharp. Thanks for your thoughts buddy.

    Here's a crazy one: I think Barao is being wildly overvalued. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I always appreciate input, especially from someone whom I consider sharp. Thanks for your thoughts buddy.

    Here's a crazy one: I think Barao is being wildly overvalued. Thoughts?
    i'm not ready to opine on that one, unfortunately. speaking off the cuff, i'd have to agree that he's being overvalued. not sure about "wildly overvalued" though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    i'm not ready to opine on that one, unfortunately. speaking off the cuff, i'd have to agree that he's being overvalued. not sure about "wildly overvalued" though.
    I 'capped him at about -250. Even that might be a little bit of a stretch.

    Although, I 'capped Tavares over McDaniel at like -1700, so what do I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I 'capped him at about -250. Even that might be a little bit of a stretch.

    Although, I 'capped Tavares over McDaniel at like -1700, so what do I know.
    lol. you have a lean on the o/u for tavares?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunisherIND View Post
    lol. you have a lean on the o/u for tavares?
    I'll PM you about it. Sec.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I always appreciate input, especially from someone whom I consider sharp. Thanks for your thoughts buddy.

    Here's a crazy one: I think Barao is being wildly overvalued. Thoughts?
    Here's 2 more points. That makes 6. 5 more to go.

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    Well, you're a man of your word at least. That Pouyasophy guy stiffed me hard.

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    King Krule's debut album is coming out in less than two weeks, and has already leaked I think. Very talented guy. You should all listen.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I 'capped him at about -250. Even that might be a little bit of a stretch.

    Although, I 'capped Tavares over McDaniel at like -1700, so what do I know.
    Yeah barao isnt overwhelming standing. Wineland has more power. I think he could have some trouble landing on barao with his punches. It took michael mcdonald a while to land a big shot and renan recoverd well. Winelands takedown defense is solid as well. I just wonder if wineland will gas after four or five rounds. If he does i think he is dead meat. Could be another late round submission win for barao. I think he is much much better on the ground.

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    For those who have been asking, tweeted some plays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    King Krule's debut album is coming out in less than two weeks, and has already leaked I think. Very talented guy. You should all listen.

    First I've heard of him, this is fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sacrelicious View Post
    First I've heard of him, this is fantastic.
    Kid is really talented. Check out the song Easy Easy if you like The Clash.


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    I'm listening to what is posted of him on Youtube as we speak, kids talented as penetrate.

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    Out Getting Ribs is a f-cking amazing song and he wrote it when he was like 16. Unreal.
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    This is penetrating awesome:


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    This shits penetrating fantastic, thank you so much for the reccomend my man.

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    But man, hes a ginger kid.....hmmm IDK

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Out Getting Ribs is a f-cking amazing song and he wrote it when he was like 16. Unreal.
    There's 8. 3 more to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    For those who have been asking, tweeted some plays.

    https://twitter.com/TheMDMMA
    Where you cap mcdonald pickett at? Only things that worry me in that fight is picketts workrate and maybe an occasional takedown to steal rounds, even though he lands a low % of strikes judges always love a high output. However he is subpar defensively, lots of head movement but lacking footwork. He was tagged by right hand counters all night by wineland which is McDonald's bread and butter.

    I'm all over mayday at -190, basically a better, younger, and more technical version of pickett IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Good logic.



    At featherweight, where he looked awful. Rumblecut bro.
    Rumble looked great at 170 in his fights...

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    F-CKING SKELETON WHEELS IN THE PAINTED WORLD.

    What the F-CK.

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