Once the lines are out, yes I agree and I don't think the discussion on here affects the line movement in any way, its all based on the money spread / action at that point...
However, you're an idiot if you think that the discussion on here doesn't affect how the line is first set by various books, and since any of us could be working for a book and anyone can view this forum, its best to keep your fat mouths shut until the lines are out. I know that is impossible as this is a discussion forum and its a free enterprise (and a lot of people take their image on here way too seriously and are pathetically desperate to be the first person to make a prediction), but if we can all be disciplined to not be dumbshits and keep our mouths shut before a line is out, I think it can only help out our prospective betting as I guarantee line setters know who are solid cappers on here...
Barking up the same tree, I know, but I'll keep saying it.