1. #8086
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    It probably would have been back to back if you didn't post right after me. I'm sure it'll be up shortly.

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    Wallco MLB PLU$$$
    2011 System to date: 237-22 (v2:55-6)
    System profit/loss: -34.03 units(finished series)
    Since my first post: -54.30 units (222-22) (fin. series)
    Current open series: 5 (-23.8 units)

    (8/29/11):
    #244 Philadelphia (-1˝) v2 (C) - Loss
    #249 Florida (M/L) v2 (C) - Loss
    #250 L.A. Angels (-1˝) (C) - Loss
    #251 Colorado (M/L) (D) - Loss
    #259 L.A. Dodgers (-1˝) v2 (B) - Win
    #262 Chicago White Sox (M/L) (A) - Win
    #263 Chicago White Sox (-1˝) (A) - Win
    #264 Detroit (-1˝) v2 (A) - Loss


    (A) 127-137
    (B) 66-69
    (C) 30-39
    (D) 14-22

    Games for (8/30/11):
    #244 Philadelphia (-1˝) @ Cincinnati v2 (D) *Official* (7:10 pm EDT)
    #249 Florida (M/L) @ N.Y. Mets v2 (D) *Official* (7:10 pm EDT)
    #250 L.A. Angels (-1˝) @ Seattle (D) *Official* (10:10 pm EDT)
    #260 Washington @ Atlanta (-1˝) v2 (B) *Official* (7:10 pm EDT)
    #264 Kansas City @ Detroit (-1˝) v2 (B) *Official* (7:05 pm EDT)
    #255 San Diego @ L.A. Dodgers (-1˝) v2 (A) *Official* (10:10 pm EDT)
    #256 St Louis @ Milwaukee (-1˝) v2 (A) *Official* (8:10 pm EDT)

    ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1˝) on the (-1˝) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1˝) on the team I have listed at (-1˝), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1˝) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
    System backtest can be found in post #3446.

    The v1 plays may change to the other team by game time. The v2 plays will not change teams, but may change (M/L) or (R/L), the team will usually remain the same. Once Official, nothing will change. We have to be careful when playing a game that qualifies for both v1 and v2, because if a team should switch, we may be playing both sides later in the series, or we could even start out on both sides. The system will count all games as wins/losses, how you play them is your discretion. If not otherwise marked, the play will be v1.

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    [quote=Wallco99;11217845]Wallco MLB PLU$$$
    2011 System to date: 237-22 (v2:55-6)
    System profit/loss: -34.03 units(finished series)
    Since my first post: -54.30 units (222-22) (fin. series)
    Current open series: 5 (-23.8 units)

    (8/29/11):
    #244 Philadelphia (-1˝) v2 (C) - Loss
    #249 Florida (M/L) v2 (C) - Loss
    #250 L.A. Angels (-1˝) (C) - Loss
    #251 Colorado (M/L) (D) - Loss
    #259 L.A. Dodgers (-1˝) v2 (B) - Win
    #262 Chicago White Sox (M/L) (A) - Win
    #263 Chicago White Sox (-1˝) (A) - Win
    #264 Detroit (-1˝) v2 (A) - Loss


    (A) 127-137
    (B) 66-69
    (C) 30-39
    (D) 14-22

    Games for (8/30/11):
    #244 Philadelphia (-1˝) @ Cincinnati v2 (D) *Official* (7:10 pm EDT)
    #249 Florida (M/L) @ N.Y. Mets v2 (D) *Official* (7:10 pm EDT)
    #250 L.A. Angels (-1˝) @ Seattle (D) *Official* (10:10 pm EDT)
    #260 Washington @ Atlanta (-1˝) v2 (B) *Official* (7:10 pm EDT)
    #264 Kansas City @ Detroit (-1˝) v2 (B) *Official* (7:05 pm EDT)
    #255 San Diego @ L.A. Dodgers (-1˝) v2 (A) *Official* (10:10 pm EDT)
    #256 St Louis @ Milwaukee (-1˝) v2 (A) *Official* (8:10 pm EDT)

    ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1˝) on the (-1˝) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1˝) on the team I have listed at (-1˝), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1˝) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
    System backtest can be found in post #3446.

    The v1 plays may change to the other team by game time. The v2 plays will not change teams, but may change (M/L) or (R/L), the team will usually remain the same. Once Official, nothing will change. We have to be careful when playing a game that qualifies for both v1 and v2, because if a team should switch, we may be playing both sides later in the series, or we could even start out on both sides. The system will count all games as wins/losses, how you play them is your discretion. If not otherwise marked, the play will be v1.[/quot

    Hey Do you play this picks your self ?

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    In years past I thought the plays were supposed to end in September because of expanded rosters and teams out of it. I guess like all the rules they change daily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickbo528 View Post
    In years past I thought the plays were supposed to end in September because of expanded rosters and teams out of it. I guess like all the rules they change daily.
    They do. That hasn't changed. Everything after Sept. 1st will be unofficial. Morrison has always sent out unofficial plays in September.

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    This has to be the most crucial night for MLB Plu$$$$, so far. A D Bet failure yesterday, leading to an all-time low this season, and 3 D bets tonight.

    It would be fantastic if all the D bets won, but history is not on our side. I stopped playing this system a few weeks back, but I still watch it and hope it bounces back. If the system does recover, it will be a sign of a robust structure, which is why tonight is crucial. I think this is what they call a watershed moment....

    Good luck Wallco

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickbo528 View Post
    In years past I thought the plays were supposed to end in September because of expanded rosters and teams out of it. I guess like all the rules they change daily.
    Yes most systems do end at the end of August...I found it is even better actually around the 3rd week of August to end mine...

    I do the same as what hagball said run picks unofficially after that point ...

    Looks like JM did ok if you followed the right system....

    But just so you know it is still August ....

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    Seriously also I give wallco credit down 80 units and he keeps posting...hopefully it is to the point he is just doing it for system testing purposes... As much as we all kid around I really do not want to see anyone down...especially that amount...not even Sammy....

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    good luck

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    Go Twins

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    I guess no one in here is giving a s hit less about JM champ selections or his free trial but so far it has not been at all I can verify that but long run?.......

    hmm I do not know so if anyone has bought it please post tonights plays b/c I have not bought it yet thanks

  12. #8097
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagball52 View Post
    JM MLB System

    2011 Official season series record 29-1 (v1) (1 series pending)
    (A) 16-15
    (B) 10-4
    (C) 3-1
    V2 plays 9-5
    V3 system 5-1
    Unofficial series 34-1


    Official
    (8/29/2011) Minnesota (.483)@ Chicago White Sox (.497) R/L (A) Loss

    Next Plays
    Official
    (8/30/2011) Minnesota
    (.483) @ Chicago White Sox (.498) R/L (B) (8/31 (C) if necc.)

    Upcoming Plays
    (9/02/2011) Oakland v Seattle
    (9/02/2011) Pittsburgh @ Chicago Cubs
    (9/02/2011) Houston v Milwaukee
    (9/05/2011) Cleveland v Detroit
    (9/08/2011) San Diego @ Arizona
    (9/09/2011) Pittsburgh v Florida
    (9/09/2011) Oakland @ Texas

    Notes: We'll keep it official for one more day. This is one of the reasons why we started this page was to keep Morrison honest. If you all remember last August 27th there was a series with the LA Angels vs the BAL Orioles. LAA lost all three bets (A), (B) and (C). There was no email from JM on the (A) bet, then on the second day he sends an email out calling the 2nd game the (A) bet which loses, then sends out an email on the 3rd game calling it the (B) bet which loses. Supposedly series over, but no he has the balls to call a (C) bet on the Angels when they go up to Seattle for a new series and then calls it an "easy as pie winner". I'm sure he received several emails including one from myself but no response. That was vintage Morrison. I know if MIN loses today they'll drop out of rpi range and we'll probably have to adjust but if it wins we'll score it official. GL all

    P.S. I posted a lot of the upcoming plays because I'll be out of town from 9/01 through 9/07 so I'll be updating on the run. Also on the 5th I will be attending that CLE/DET game.

    P.P.S. Who wants to bet if MIN wins today Morrison comes back and says oops!. It should have been official so we'll add another win to the total.
    very true hag about your notes part I think me and u talked about that bs last yr in a different thread it was the absolute worst of his behavior ever b/c his MLB v1.0 system last yr wasnt all that like it was back in 2009

    hey hag are u on his email list? b/c if u are I'd appreciate it if you'd post it please b/c since no one posted it last night to find him calling it unofficial kind of pissed me off after I already bet it and while no one on this thread caught it til after it was too late so Im going to try to avoid that if at all possible next time out thanks

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    GL to you all

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    baseball crusher vs john morrison today baseball crusher come on top morrison going to c bet well baseball crusher has won 5 in a row

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    A good night for Wallco's MLB Plu$$$$. All 3 D bets cashed, which should relieve the pressure on the system. Here's hoping that the system recovers in the next 4 weeks....

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    Quote Originally Posted by NZT-48 View Post
    very true hag about your notes part I think me and u talked about that bs last yr in a different thread it was the absolute worst of his behavior ever b/c his MLB v1.0 system last yr wasnt all that like it was back in 2009 hey hag are u on his email list? b/c if u are I'd appreciate it if you'd post it please b/c since no one posted it last night to find him calling it unofficial kind of pissed me off after I already bet it and while no one on this thread caught it til after it was too late so Im going to try to avoid that if at all possible next time out thanks
    Hi Buddy,

    Received Mon 8/29:
    XXXX (me),
    Good job on banking in on the unofficial [C] bet yesterday with the Cubs! For today, there's an unofficial [A] bet on Minnesota.
    This is NOT an official bet because it does not pass the RPI filter.
    All the best,
    John Morrison, PhD
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    Received yesterday Tue 8/30:
    XXXX (me),
    For today, there's an unofficial [b] bet on Minnesota. This is NOT an official bet because it does not pass the RPI filter.
    All the best,
    John Morrison, PhD
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    I think that every e-mail from him from now on will be unofficial due to the September filter.


    Unofficial C Bet tonight.....

    Regards
    Kev
    Last edited by SBRAdmin3; 06-30-14 at 11:03 AM.

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    JM MLB System

    2011 Official season series record 29-1 (v1)
    (A) 16-14
    (B) 10-4
    (C) 3-1
    V2 plays 9-5
    V3
    system 5-1
    Unofficial series 34-1 (1 series pending)


    Official
    (8/30/2011) Minnesota
    (.483) @ Chicago White Sox (.498) R/L (B) Loss

    Next Plays
    *
    Unofficial*
    (8/31/2011) Minnesota
    (.482) @ Chicago White Sox (.498) R/L (C)

    Upcoming Plays
    (9/02/2011) Oakland v Seattle
    (9/02/2011) Pittsburgh @ Chicago Cubs
    (9/02/2011) Houston v Milwaukee
    (9/05/2011) Cleveland v Detroit
    (9/08/2011) San Diego @ Arizona
    (9/09/2011) Pittsburgh v Florida
    (9/09/2011) Oakland @ Texas

    Notes: Well I demoted it to unofficial and removed the (A) loss from the official record so not to confuse. It's hard to keep it real accurate when JM just changes the rules as he goes. Giving him the benefit of the doubt the record is about as accurate as can be. I thought Minny was going to come through yesterday when they were up 6-3 but they found a way to blow it and it doesn't look good today considering the pitching.GL all

    P.S. I'm flying out on the red eye tonight and probably won't be able to update this page until later tomorrow or early Friday. Either way I should be able to get it up before the next set of plays start.

    P.P.S. Forgot to mention there are 5 possible sweeps today.
    Last edited by hagball52; 08-31-11 at 09:10 AM.

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    I wrote Morrison a response to his emails:

    John, Your record is really good but there are certain aspects I'm not sure you take into consideration. All of us receiving your selections are assuming that the stars equate to units. Meaning you bet 1 unit per star as evidenced by days when you claim a winning day even though your picks went 1-1. Your 2* star pick won versus your 1* pick so you say you had a winning day. By that alone I would assume you mean to bet 1 unit per star. The other factor is you almost always play high favorites with high odds. So for instance on 8/25 you chose the Toronto Blue Jays as a 5* play and they closed at -162 odds. Now if I were betting to win one unit per star at $100 per unit I would have had to bet $810 to win $500. That bet lost. So now I've got to win over 8 units to recover my losses from that one 5* star bet. You seem concerned only with wins and losses and place no bearing on odds or financial management. I would need to track it further to determine whether or not it is good as you say it is. I was a member of your "champselections" in the past and it was a disaster. I completely lost my bankroll because I believed in your bold claims of "inside information" and ability to continuously pick winners. Fool me once, it's your fault. Fool me twice it's my fault. Thanks John but I'm not completely convinced that your new "champselections" are any better than your old "champselections". Besides, what if your "inside info" dries up ? Where are we then ? I'll pass for now John.

    --- On Tue, 8/30/11, The Sports Betting Champ wrote:

    From: The Sports Betting Champ
    Subject: TheChampSelections-Cashed in again yesterday . Are you convinced yet James?
    To: "
    Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 12:54 PM

    James,

    For yet another day in a row, The Champ Selections won big time
    on the highest rated pick of the day! As a matter of fact, the 2*
    Star pick on Dodgers banked in from the get-go! The Dodgers took
    a the lead from the very first inning, and never, ever trailed
    once during the entire game! This was exactly what my inside info
    said would happen! Pretty exciting to see how the game went down
    exactly as predicted, for yet another straight day in a row on my
    highest rated bet! Overall, my picks yesterday was a perfect day!

    Since your complimentary trial to The Champ Selections started, I
    have not yet had a single day where I lost more picks than I won.
    Here's my win-loss record over the last 10 days of picks:

    8/19 2-0 (highest rated bet cashed in!)
    8/20 4-1 (highest rated bet cashed in!)
    8/21 1-1
    8/22 1-1 (winning day as we cashed in on highest rated bet!)
    8/23 1-1 (winning day as we cashed in on highest rated bet!)
    8/24 4-2 (highest rated 6* Star bet of the month cashed in!)
    8/25 2-2
    8/26 2-0 (highest rated bet cashed in!)
    8/27 3-1 (highest rated bet cashed in!)
    8/28 2-1 (highest rated bet cashed in!)
    8/29 1-0 (highest rated bet cashed in!)

    To get a sense of just how incredibly powerful my selections have
    been, just consider all of this James:

    -------------------------------------------------
    - My picks in the last 11 days of your trial have gone for 23-10

    - I have not had a losing day during this entire trial!

    - My highest rated pick of the day won 9 out of the 11 days!
    That's an astonishing 82% win rate on my pick of the day!

    - My highest rated pick of the month on the Giants on August 24th
    cashed in with ease! This was a 6* pick, and most highly rated this month.

    - Going back to the days before your trial, I now have a win-loss
    record of 74-30 for the month of August with The Champ Selections!

    - I've had only 2 losing days so far for the entire month of August!

    - My 74-30 winning streak has absolutely NO signs of ever slowing down!
    -------------------------------------------------

    Are you wholly, fully, and completely convinced yet James?

    Look, talk is cheap. I can sit here and ramble all day long, but
    it's the results that really matter. That's why I gave you this
    complimentary trial to The Champ Selections so that you can witness
    for yourself first-hand just how incredible my picks really are. We
    have not had a single day where my picks lost more than they won. My
    highest rated pick of the day have won an incredible 9 times out of
    the last 11 days! Yesterday's perfect performance, and again cashing
    in on the pick of the day is yet another piece of proof to the pudding!

    Do you see now why I normally charge $2,000/month + 5% of winnings
    for a membership to The Champ Selections? It's worth every penny!

    Now that you've seen for yourself how rock-solid my inside info
    really is, and how powerful my selections really are, it's time to
    jump onboard to the real membership to The Champ Selections!

    And best of all, I'll open up The Champ Selections to you for just
    a one-time investment of only $200! This will get you all of my
    inside info picks for a full 30 days so you can see for yourself
    how absolutely mind-blowing it really is! After 30 days is over,
    you'll have the option of sending in an additional $300. If you do,
    then you'll receive the Champ Selections membership for an entire YEAR!

    --------------------------------------------------------------------
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    This will get you my Champ Selections daily picks for a full month.
    After the month is over and you can see for yourself how absolutely
    mind-blowing my inside info picks really are, you'll then have the
    option to send in $300 to secure membership for an entire YEAR! That
    works out to less than $1.37/day to start banking in runaway profits!
    --------------------------------------------------------------------

    James, you may be shocked that I can pick such consistent
    winners, but the truth is there is not a single ounce of surprise
    about it! Why? Because I have inside info, and I already knew what
    the results of those games would be long before they ever even started!

    Why do you think people are glad to throw down $2,000/month + 5% of
    winnings to get in on my picks? The value of inside info is priceless!

    Day after day, my picks have continued on an unstoppable winning run,
    with absolutely no end to this incredible streak anywhere in sight!

    Every day that you're not betting on my picks, you're losing money
    James. Remember, I have inside info. Follow my selections, and
    you'll make money. It's that simple! The proof is right in front of you!

    To see what kind of a sickening fortune you can amass with just
    $100 on my picks over the next year, just check out:

    And those are some real conservative figures. If my results since
    June is any indication, you're only going to need a couple months
    of betting along before $2,000/month means absolutely nothing to you!

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    This will get you my Champ Selections daily picks for a full month.
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    option to send in $300 to secure membership for an entire YEAR! That
    works out to less than $1.37/day to start banking in runaway profits!
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    The truth is that I can charge any kind of a price for a private
    subscription to The Champ Selections and it would be worth every
    single penny. Perhaps you may not have tens of thousands to bet
    with on a game right now. But even with just a tiny, miniscule
    fraction of such a bankroll, you would be banking in winnings
    beyond what you could possibly ever comprehend within just months
    of following my selections!

    All the best,
    John Morrison, PhD

    P.S. Every day you're not betting on my picks, you're losing
    money James! Remember, I have INSIDE INFO. Follow my
    selections, and you will make money. It's that simple!

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    as evidenced by days when you claim a winning day even though your picks went 1-1. Your 2* star pick won versus your 1* pick so you say you had a winning day. By that alone I would assume you mean to bet 1 unit per star. The other factor is you almost always play high favorites with high odds. So for instance on 8/25 you chose the Toronto Blue Jays as a 5* play and they closed at -162 odds. Now if I were betting to win one unit per star at $100 per unit I would have had to bet $810 to win $500. That bet lost. So now I've got to win over 8 units to recover my losses from that one 5* star bet. You seem concerned only with wins and losses and place no bearing on odds or financial management. I would need to track it further to determine whether or not it is good as you say it is. I was a member of your "champselections" in the past and it was a disaster. I completely lost my bankroll because I believed in you bold claims of "inside information" and ability to continuously pick winners. Fool me once, it's your fault. Fool me twice it's my fault. Thanks John but I'm not completely convinced that your new "champselections" are any better than your old "champselections". Besides, what if your "inside info" dries up ? Where are we then ? I'll pass for now John.

    --- On Tue, 8/30/11, The Sports Betting Champ wrote:

    From: The Sports Betting Champ
    Subject: TheChampSelections-Cashed in again yesterday . Are you convinced yet James?
    To: "James Hagerty"
    Date: Tuesday, August 30, 2011, 12:54 PM

    James,

    For yet another day in a row, The Champ Selections won big time
    on the highest rated pick of the day! As a matter of fact, the 2*
    Star pick on Dodgers banked in from the get-go! The Dodgers took
    a the lead from the very first inning, and never, ever trailed
    once during the entire game! This was exactly what my inside info
    said would happen! Pretty exciting to see how the game went down
    exactly as predicted, for yet another straight day in a row on my
    highest rated bet! Overall, my picks yesterday was a perfect day!

    Since your complimentary trial to The Champ Selections started, I
    have not yet had a single day where I lost more picks than I won.
    Here's my win-loss record over the last 10 days of picks:

    8/19 2-0 (highest rated bet cashed in!)
    8/20 4-1 (highest rated bet cashed in!)
    8/21 1-1
    8/22 1-1 (winning day as we cashed in on highest rated bet!)
    8/23 1-1 (winning day as we cashed in on highest rated bet!)
    8/24 4-2 (highest rated 6* Star bet of the month cashed in!)
    8/25 2-2
    8/26 2-0 (highest rated bet cashed in!)
    8/27 3-1 (highest rated bet cashed in!)
    8/28 2-1 (highest rated bet cashed in!)
    8/29 1-0 (highest rated bet cashed in!)

    To get a sense of just how incredibly powerful my selections have
    been, just consider all of this James:

    -------------------------------------------------
    - My picks in the last 11 days of your trial have gone for 23-10

    - I have not had a losing day during this entire trial!

    - My highest rated pick of the day won 9 out of the 11 days!
    That's an astonishing 82% win rate on my pick of the day!

    - My highest rated pick of the month on the Giants on August 24th
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    - Going back to the days before your trial, I now have a win-loss
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    Quote Originally Posted by shane500 View Post
    baseball crusher vs john morrison today baseball crusher come on top morrison going to c bet well baseball crusher has won 5 in a row

    That is usually when I start to fade Crusher. I HATE days like today. This stupid CWS-Minn series is at a point where I have mulitiple systems giving me plays on both sides. It is game 6 for the Fade in the shut-out system. It is a E bet in the System Integrity and a C bet for JM. Best case for me is CWS to win by 1 run. This sucks.

    I just realized you said JM vs Crusher. They are on totally different games
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    Hagball,
    Its difficult to track JM when he's changing his own rules. Strictly speaking Minnesota was an official bet from the get go, with an RPI difference of .015 (the filter excludes games with an RPI difference "more than .015" (JM's words from his pdf).

    However, in anticipation of the RPI differential extending beyond .015 during the losing A and B bets, I apply a personal limit of .010 difference. JM is correct, in a practical sense, to say that Minnesota is unofficial. However, he needs to officially use the .005 buffer as I do.

    Finally, I don't know why people play the unofficial bets. The RPI filter only has to work once in 20 series to pay for itself. Currently the unofficial record is 34-1 (profit). However, its about to go 34-2, rendering the unofficial system a loser this year. The official system is 29-1. OK, its not fantastic, but the official system season is now over and that's 9 units profit.

    Regards to all

    Kev

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    Wallco MLB PLU$$$
    2011 System to date: 241-22 (v2:58-6)
    System profit/loss: -27.29 units(finished series)
    Since my first post: -47.56 units (226-22) (fin. series)
    Current open series: 3 (-7.00 units)

    (8/30/11):
    #244 Philadelphia (-1˝) v2 (D) - Win
    #249 Florida (M/L) v2 (D) - Win
    #250 L.A. Angels (-1˝) (D) - Win
    #260 Atlanta (-1˝) v2 (B) - Loss
    #264 Detroit (-1˝) v2 (B) - Loss
    #265 L.A. Dodgers (-1˝) v2 (A) - Win
    #266 Milwaukee (-1˝) v2 (A) - Loss

    (A) 128-138
    (B) 66-71
    (C) 30-39
    (D) 17-22


    Games for (8/31/11):
    #260 Washington @ Atlanta (-1˝) v2 (C) *Official* (7:10 pm EDT)
    #264 Kansas City @ Detroit (-1˝) v2 (C) *Official* (1:05 pm EDT)
    #266 St Louis @ Milwaukee (-1˝) v2 (B) *Official* (8:10 pm EDT)
    #267 Minnesota @ Chicago White Sox (-1˝) v2 (A) *Official* (2:10 pm EDT)
    #268 Colorado @ Arizona (-1˝) v2 (A) *Official* (9:40 pm EDT)


    ** Do not place any wagers on teams unless the word “Official” appears next to the game. All lines and standings are based on final lines from ScoresandOdds.com. Some of the unofficial plays may change to the other team by game time. Official plays will not change. Keep checking for updated posts until all games are marked “official”. If your book is offering (+1˝) on the (-1˝) plays above, buy the alternate line for (-1˝) on the team I have listed at (-1˝), not the other team. NEVER PLAY (+1˝) LINE ON ANY GAME IN THIS SYSTEM.
    System backtest can be found in post #3446.

    The v1 plays may change to the other team by game time. The v2 plays will not change teams, but may change (M/L) or (R/L), the team will usually remain the same. Once Official, nothing will change. We have to be careful when playing a game that qualifies for both v1 and v2, because if a team should switch, we may be playing both sides later in the series, or we could even start out on both sides. The system will count all games as wins/losses, how you play them is your discretion. If not otherwise marked, the play will be v1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev the Brit View Post
    Hagball,
    Its difficult to track JM when he's changing his own rules. Strictly speaking Minnesota was an official bet from the get go, with an RPI difference of .015 (the filter excludes games with an RPI difference "more than .015" (JM's words from his pdf).

    However, in anticipation of the RPI differential extending beyond .015 during the losing A and B bets, I apply a personal limit of .010 difference. JM is correct, in a practical sense, to say that Minnesota is unofficial. However, he needs to officially use the .005 buffer as I do.

    Finally, I don't know why people play the unofficial bets. The RPI filter only has to work once in 20 series to pay for itself. Currently the unofficial record is 34-1 (profit). However, its about to go 34-2, rendering the unofficial system a loser this year. The official system is 29-1. OK, its not fantastic, but the official system season is now over and that's 9 units profit.

    Regards to all

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    I did fire off an email to him yesterday and today asking him what I was missing. I asked if the rules changed recently or if his math was flawed. I'll post if he responds. He usually does if you are not totally abusive or insulting when you write him.

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    Nice job on the (D) bet pickups Wallco. I parlayed a couple of those D's with Detroit M/L and hit a nice little 3 teamer. Thanks buddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev the Brit View Post
    Hagball,
    Its difficult to track JM when he's changing his own rules. Strictly speaking Minnesota was an official bet from the get go, with an RPI difference of .015 (the filter excludes games with an RPI difference "more than .015" (JM's words from his pdf).

    However, in anticipation of the RPI differential extending beyond .015 during the losing A and B bets, I apply a personal limit of .010 difference. JM is correct, in a practical sense, to say that Minnesota is unofficial. However, he needs to officially use the .005 buffer as I do.

    Finally, I don't know why people play the unofficial bets. The RPI filter only has to work once in 20 series to pay for itself. Currently the unofficial record is 34-1 (profit). However, its about to go 34-2, rendering the unofficial system a loser this year. The official system is 29-1. OK, its not fantastic, but the official system season is now over and that's 9 units profit.

    Regards to all

    Kev
    hey Kev how are u sir? I was going to email you soon and see if you are going to get some of the new systems that are out there for the fball season and so forth but I will email u and not talk about it here and waste forum space......

    but I appreciate the postings u put up Ive been getting the official emails from a friend of my mine but sometimes they come late I just dont get it why he said it was unofficial especially when it looks like a winner today but whatever

    and yes I agree with most of u guys about Sept system plays but I dont think that JM calls them unofficial per say as much as u think b/c I remembered in yrs past when we have "official" plays in Sept he says basically to bet them lightly but still calls them wins if everyone else on here remembers that especially back in 2009 which was a good season in MLB

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    Today's Champ Selections:
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    Pretty good start to the day. Detroit became a "no action" for me because of the last minute pitching change, and Minnesota held on @ +170 on the JM "C" bet. I will gladly trade the 1 unit "A" bet loss on Chicago for that.

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    i'll bet. sounds like we may have another JM convert.

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    Wallco long time viewer and thank god I just play john morrison because you are really bad, in fact sir you suck!

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    Hagball,
    Min won the C Bet and was, according to the written word of the system, an official bet due to the RPI differential of .015 (on the limit). This makes the official record, according to your stats, as 30-1.

    I want to discuss the single loss you have recorded: NYY v Bos. Strictly speaking, that series was not official because Bos held the 2nd highest RPI in the league at that time.

    JM tends to send out e-mails that do not comply with his written PDFs, so I don't act on his e-mails. Although I add a buffer of .005 to the .015 RPI, the fact remains that the system, according to the PDF, has been 100% this season: 31-0

    Thoughts?

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    Seriously guys next year lets just have the morrison thread as the morrison thread..guinea pig experiments belong in their own special place...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kev the Brit View Post
    Hagball,
    Min won the C Bet and was, according to the written word of the system, an official bet due to the RPI differential of .015 (on the limit). This makes the official record, according to your stats, as 30-1.

    I want to discuss the single loss you have recorded: NYY v Bos. Strictly speaking, that series was not official because Bos held the 2nd highest RPI in the league at that time.

    JM tends to send out e-mails that do not comply with his written PDFs, so I don't act on his e-mails. Although I add a buffer of .005 to the .015 RPI, the fact remains that the system, according to the PDF, has been 100% this season: 31-0

    Thoughts?

    Kev
    You're right but the reason we scored that loss official was because he sent out all 3 plays official and didn't disqualify it until after the (C) bet loss. We all know what he was trying to do (score an official win) but once it lost he pulled the top rpi rule out of his ass. We all knew in advance what was going on. It was debateable I guess. It really doesn't matter to me that much. We all made a few units this season.

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    I'm still around, but haven't been betting last couple weeks. Way too busy at work... Is Attari's thread still around? I was scrolling for it, but didn't see it.

    Someone link me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hagball52 View Post
    You're right but the reason we scored that loss official was because he sent out all 3 plays official and didn't disqualify it until after the (C) bet loss. We all know what he was trying to do (score an official win) but once it lost he pulled the top rpi rule out of his ass. We all knew in advance what was going on. It was debateable I guess. It really doesn't matter to me that much. We all made a few units this season.


    yeh, bost. i believe had moved to 2nd on the b bet, which would have disqualified it at the time normally. (now had one been playin via the orig. sys. it woulda been a no play from the start because they were in the top 3 rpi rating. they were #3.)

    minny would have probably been disqualified today, if they had lost, w/ the higher than 015 rpi; & yet he had it as unoff. right from the beginning. Of course i think he has stated in the past not to play teams w/ no playoff possibilities. Must have started earlier than usual this yr. w/ minn. Couldn't blame him there.

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    Hey Kev, back to your previous post. I think you mean 30-0 instead. At 29-1 you would remove the NYY loss and then add the MIN win and that would get ya 30-0.

    It'll be interesting to see what JM sends out in tomorrow's email. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a big fat OOPS! it should have been official.

    I guess let's see what happens over the next couple of days. I have no problem leaving it the way it is but if you all want it changed just chime in and we'll take a vote on it.

    I just went and checked worst road record and MIN is not even close so that can't disqualify it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by G's pks View Post
    Seriously guys next year lets just have the morrison thread as the morrison thread..guinea pig experiments belong in their own special place...
    no s hit man I said this stuff back when other stuff kept clogging up the thread from the get go.....besides G do u even actually play JM's system plays? just wondering if u dont why do u care what goes on in this thread?

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