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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheBeard View Post
    what are the rules for when several of the bets go against each other like this? the net result of the washington/dodgers series would be dodgers for +1u so do you just play the dodgers?

    i know stifler just plays all his plays in order to keep track of everything but for someone who is tailing, you only need to make 1 bet, correct?
    Im playing both games. Playing just 1 series is plain stupid.

    Do you have soccer thread?
    No, im doing all soccer plays on my own without posting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearTheBeard View Post
    what are the rules for when several of the bets go against each other like this? the net result of the washington/dodgers series would be dodgers for +1u so do you just play the dodgers?

    i know stifler just plays all his plays in order to keep track of everything but for someone who is tailing, you only need to make 1 bet, correct?
    Beard I'm clueless on this toilet bowl system but get what you're saying. I read it for the levity but am staying away from the big flush.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    20.07.2013

    S1

    (D Bet) Stl fade: Hou 3,45 0,408u | Hou 3,36 0,597u | SD 2,59 1,261u | San Diego 2,75 1,866u

    S3

    (B Bet) Balti fade: Texas 1,719 1,39u | Texas 1,917 2,606u
    (B Bet) Tex: Texas 1,719 1,39u| Texas 1,917 2,606u
    (B Bet) Cubs fade: Colorado 1,685 1,46u | Colorado 1,667 3,688u

    P3

    (D Bet) Z.Greinke fade: SD 2,09 0,917u | Col 2,05 1,826u | Ari 1,962 3,891u | Washington 1,794 9,615u
    (C Bet) G.Gonzalez fade: Ari 2,29 0,775u | SD 2,46 1,216u | LA Dodgers 2,16 2,578u
    (A Bet) Z.Greinke: LA Dodgers 2,16 0,862u
    (A Bet) M.Cain fade: Arizona 2,26 0,794u
    P3 Z.Greinke fade series lost = -15,249 units

    records:
    S1: W 30 | L 0 (+30,00 units)
    S2: W 29 | L 3 (-4,001 units)
    S3: W 152 | L 5 (+6,345 units)
    P1: W 18 | L 1 (+9,971 units)
    P2: W 30 | L 2 (+10,536 units)
    P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)


    pending:

    - P3 U.Jimenez, B Bet on next start on the road
    - P1 C.Kershaw, B Bet on next start
    - P2 C.Kershaw, B Bet on next start
    - P1 D.Haren fade, B Bet on next start
    - P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start @home
    - S3 Balti fade, C Bet on 21.07.2013
    - S3 Tex, C Bet on 21.07.2013

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    all rules and qualifying teams for every system can be found on post #1-3

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    21.07.2013

    S1

    (A Bet) Col fade: Cubs 2,49 0,671u

    S3

    (C Bet) Balti fade: Texas 1,719 1,39u | Texas 1,917 2,606u | Texas 1,787 6,348u
    (C Bet) Tex: Texas 1,719 1,39u| Texas 1,917 2,606u | Texas 1,787 6,348u

    P1

    (B Bet) C.Kershaw: LA Dodgers -1,5 1,926 1,08u | Dodgers -1,5 2,51 1,377u

    P2

    (B Bet) C.Kershaw: LA Dodgers 1,426 2,35u | Dodgers 1,901 3,718u


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    Stifler, if you have got that, can you write down some stats ?
    1. Stats for A bet, b bet, c bet, d bet... how many lose how many wins.
    2. All lose series stakes on all bets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghost212 View Post
    Stifler, if you have got that, can you write down some stats ?
    1. Stats for A bet, b bet, c bet, d bet... how many lose how many wins.
    2. All lose series stakes on all bets.
    i dont have those stats and its not that important to me tbh.

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    great job.but whe u dont like baseball when did u start looking into baseball stats and made this systems what made u research on a boring game (in ur view)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    21.07.2013

    S1

    (A Bet) Col fade: Cubs 2,49 0,671u

    S3

    (C Bet) Balti fade: Texas 1,719 1,39u | Texas 1,917 2,606u | Texas 1,787 6,348u
    (C Bet) Tex: Texas 1,719 1,39u| Texas 1,917 2,606u | Texas 1,787 6,348u

    P1

    (B Bet) C.Kershaw: LA Dodgers -1,5 1,926 1,08u | Dodgers -1,5 2,51 1,377u

    P2

    (B Bet) C.Kershaw: LA Dodgers 1,426 2,35u | Dodgers 1,901 3,718u

    records:
    S1: W 30 | L 0 (+30,00 units)
    S2: W 29 | L 3 (-4,001 units)
    S3: W 152 | L 5 (+6,345 units)
    P1: W 19 | L 1 (+10,971 units)
    P2: W 31 | L 2 (+11,536 units)
    P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)


    pending:

    - P3 U.Jimenez, B Bet on next start on the road
    - P1 D.Haren fade, B Bet on next start
    - P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start @home
    - S3 Balti fade, D Bet on 22.07.2013
    - S3 Tex, D Bet on 22.07.2013
    - S1 Col fade, B Bet on 22.07.2013

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    - im playing both D bets to win 2units. I also parlayed the Texas S3 series with france Women today vs Denmark.

    22.07.2013

    S1

    (B Bet) Col fade: Cubs 2,49 0,671u | Miami 2,53 1,092u
    (A Bet) NYY: Yankees 2,73 0,578u

    S2

    (A Bet) Pit fade: Washington 1,775 1,29u
    (A Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,613 1,63u
    (A Bet) Cle fade: Seattle 1,833 1,20u

    S3

    (D Bet) Balti fade: Tex 1,719 1,39u | Tex 1,917 2,606u | Tex 1,787 6,348u | 2u play KC 2,16 10,641u
    (D Bet) Tex: Tex 1,719 1,39u| Tex 1,917 2,606u| Tex 1,787 6,348u| 2u play Texas+France(W) 2,077 11,461u

    P1

    (B Bet) D.Haren fade: Miami -1,5 2,78 0,562u | Pittsburgh 2,19 1,313u

    P3

    (B Bet) U.Jimenez: Cleveland 2,36 0,735u | Cleveland 2,11 1,563u


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    Big night tonight!:-)

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    Big night tonight!:-)

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    Not looking Good for france, Theo are staying reality bad and are Down 0-1
    Last edited by knugen; 07-22-13 at 02:32 PM.

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    Its still Alive 1-1 with 20 min left

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    And there we lose the D bet parlay

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    Yepp.....

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    Now you gotta follow it as it's intended....Texas d bet.... Or try parlay again with Oak....

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    I hate those 2 d bets. Both against teams that can hit. naturally I would be taking NYy and BAL ..bol!

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    Now that the soccer bet has lost I'm hoping TEX loses too so I don't feel as crappy.

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    Texas looking better then KC lol

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    Famn, that was a bad night

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    Quote Originally Posted by knugen View Post
    Famn, that was a bad night
    just when u played it like i did. Dont follow blindly just because im making this parlay. I should have known better, but thats what u get betting on women soccer. Unfortunately the big soccer leagues arent running, otherwise i would have found a better game to parlay. But no excuses at all, just my bad. Onto the next ones...maybe i will put some 2 unit plays on A bets out there to get back a little (but just when i feel more comfortable with a series)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    22.07.2013

    S1

    (B Bet) Col fade: Cubs 2,49 0,671u | Miami 2,53 1,092u
    (A Bet) NYY: Yankees 2,73 0,578u

    S2

    (A Bet) Pit fade: Washington 1,775 1,29u
    (A Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,613 1,63u
    (A Bet) Cle fade: Seattle 1,833 1,20u

    S3

    (D Bet) Balti fade: Tex 1,719 1,39u | Tex 1,917 2,606u | Tex 1,787 6,348u | 2u play KC 2,16 10,641u
    (D Bet) Tex: Tex 1,719 1,39u| Tex 1,917 2,606u| Tex 1,787 6,348u| 2u play Texas+France(W) 2,077 11,461u

    P1

    (B Bet) D.Haren fade: Miami -1,5 2,78 0,562u | Pittsburgh 2,19 1,313u

    P3

    (B Bet) U.Jimenez: Cleveland 2,36 0,735u | Cleveland 2,11 1,563u
    - S3 Balti fade series lost = -20,985 units
    - S3 Tex series lost = -21,805 units

    records:
    S1: W 31 | L 0 (+31,00 units)
    S2: W 30 | L 3 (-3,001 units)
    S3: W 152 | L 7 (-36,445 units)
    P1: W 20 | L 1 (+11,971 units)
    P2: W 31 | L 2 (+11,536 units)
    P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)


    pending:

    - P3 U.Jimenez, C Bet on next start on the road
    - P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start @home
    - S1 NYY, B Bet on 23.07.2013
    - S2 LAA, B Bet on 23.07.2013
    - S2 Pit fade, B Bet on 23.07.2013

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    - Im playing both A bets today to win 2units (maybe just the A bets, will see how far this goes)

    23.07.2013

    S1

    (B Bet) NYY: Yankees 2,73 0,578u | Yankees 2,60 0,986u
    (A Bet) SD fade: 2u play Milwaukee 1,87 2,30u

    S2

    (B Bet) Pit fade: Washington 1,775 1,29u | Washington 1,926 2,473u
    (B Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,613 1,63u | LA Angels 1,571 4,606u

    P2

    (A Bet) B.Chen fade: 2u play Baltimore 1,901 2,22u


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    Im not blaming you stiff. That was my choice. I felt thatt france wasnt worth Only 1,3. But you did Good parlays before so i trusted you
    Last edited by knugen; 07-23-13 at 07:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    - S3 Balti fade series lost = -20,985 units
    - S3 Tex series lost = -21,805 units

    records:
    S1: W 31 | L 0 (+31,00 units)
    S2: W 30 | L 3 (-3,001 units)
    S3: W 152 | L 7 (-36,445 units)
    P1: W 20 | L 1 (+11,971 units)
    P2: W 31 | L 2 (+11,536 units)
    P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)


    pending:

    - P3 U.Jimenez, C Bet on next start on the road
    - P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start @home
    - S1 NYY, B Bet on 23.07.2013
    - S2 LAA, B Bet on 23.07.2013
    - S2 Pit fade, B Bet on 23.07.2013

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    Is it really fair To the system to count the Texas series as a loss? They did win.
    Last edited by SuperHappyTime; 07-23-13 at 08:34 AM. Reason: Spelling

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    - S3 Balti fade series lost = -20,985 units
    - S3 Tex series lost = -21,805 units

    records:
    S1: W 31 | L 0 (+31,00 units)
    S2: W 30 | L 3 (-3,001 units)
    S3: W 152 | L 7 (-36,445 units)
    P1: W 20 | L 1 (+11,971 units)
    P2: W 31 | L 2 (+11,536 units)
    P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)

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    Stif,
    can you amend record to show that system won, but you personally lost on the series? Put actual number on it, but maybe in parenthesis put your loss.
    S3: W 153 | 6 (-14.640 units) (personal loss -36,445 with Tex parlay loss)

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    Quote Originally Posted by sportscreep1 View Post
    Stif,
    can you amend record to show that system won, but you personally lost on the series? Put actual number on it, but maybe in parenthesis put your loss.
    S3: W 153 | 6 (-14.640 units) (personal loss -36,445 with Tex parlay loss)
    ^^This.

    I personally laid off the Baltimore fade bet as I had a good feeling they'd sweep Texas. Only chance was the (A) bet when Holland was pitching, Texas offense is mediocre at best right now and they had spot-start / former relief pitchers pitching games 2-3. I decided to chase Texas anyway, ended up cashing the D-bet with no parlay and laid off the Baltimore fade series so I feel pretty good.

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    Other losses have been tallied with reduced juice due to parlays/run line. It wouldn't be fair to strike this loss just because Texas won.

    I've never been a fan of recording the results differently when something is used to reduce the juice. If you're gonna play an individual chase differently, make note but record the numbers with the original system rules. You will never get an accurate tally of how the system performs until you do so.
    Last edited by calebepley93; 07-23-13 at 11:30 AM.

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    Other series were listed like i played them aswell, so i will stick to it. This thread shows the live performance based on the system rules. It will never be as accurate as the backtested number. But its not important at all, because i will backtest everything after the season again and note down the numbers. There´s no other person who needs an accurate record at all, because im setting up rules/teams for the whole system. If anyone want to have live numbers based on exact system rules - feel free to backtest everything daily on ur own.

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    Great job Stifler just keep posting my friend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperHappyTime View Post
    Is it really fair To the system to count the Texas series as a loss? They did win.
    NO, but it doesn't really matter because the system records are completely tainted anyway from other games that did lose that were also tied in with these ridiculous parlays. The system unit counts are just a mirage and don't even remotely reflect how bad the sysetm is actually doing anyway.
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    Seriously - system numbers are meaningless unless you are betting pennies. It's what YOU are doing and YOUR bankroll does. Many people do their own thing and use Stifflers system as just one tool in the tool box. Stiffler himself uses this Chase as just a tool in his tool box.

    So you can be anal and ONLY play the system and when you win you can pound your chest and when you lose you can blame the system and not yourself. Or you can follow Stiffler who has the systems heartbeat. I would follow the guy that lives and breaths the system

    I've been using a modified version with much less risk but also much less potential. In the last month,110 games, up 30 units but using Stiffs chase as a model. A system/handicapping fusion LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    23.07.2013

    S1

    (B Bet) NYY: Yankees 2,73 0,578u | Yankees 2,60 0,986u
    (A Bet) SD fade: 2u play Milwaukee 1,87 2,30u

    S2

    (B Bet) Pit fade: Washington 1,775 1,29u | Washington 1,926 2,473u
    (B Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,613 1,63u | LA Angels 1,571 4,606u

    P2

    (A Bet) B.Chen fade: 2u play Baltimore 1,901 2,22u
    records:
    S1: W 32 | L 0 (+32,00 units)
    S2: W 30 | L 3 (-3,001 units)
    S3: W 152 | L 7 (-36,445 units)
    P1: W 20 | L 1 (+11,971 units)
    P2: W 31 | L 2 (+11,536 units)
    P3: W 40 | L 1 (+24,751 units)


    pending:

    - P3 U.Jimenez, C Bet on next start on the road
    - P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start @home
    - P2 B.Chen fade, B Bet on next start
    - S2 LAA, C Bet on 24.07.2013
    - S2 Pit fade, C Bet on 24.07.2013
    - S1 SD fade, B Bet on 24.07.2013

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    - everything is back to win 1unit. Parlayed S2 Angels with Bayern Munich today vs Barcelona. I first didnt wanna parlay that game, but its the Angels. Also i do like Bayern today, Barca without some of their big players (Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar), Barca also just started training + coach problems.

    24.07.2013

    S1

    (B Bet) SD fade: Milwaukee 1,87 2,30u | Milwaukee 1,641 5,148u
    (A Bet) Pit fade: Washington 1,709 1,41u
    (A Bet) Stl: St.Louis 1,578 1,73u

    S2

    (C Bet) Pit fade: Washington 1,775 1,29u | Washington 1,926 2,473u | Washington 1,709 6,718u
    (C Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,613 1,63u | LA Angels 1,571 4,606u | LAA+Bayern 1,974 7,429u

    P3

    (A Bet) J.Weaver: LA Angels 1,408 2,45u

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    Solid parlay !
    Barca key players are still on vacation , while German league started early. Bayern will dominate this game (IMO) I took the run line. I also like the Angels strong today, they been playing solid in the last games.
    Good luck

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