1. 05-01-13 07:25 AM #806
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    01.05.2013

    S2

    (A Bet) Phil: Phillies - waiting on line movement
    (A Bet) Cle fade: Phillies - waiting on line movement

    P1

    (C Bet) M.Buehrle: Toronto 2,00 1,00u | Toronto 2,30 1,538u| Toronto 2,24 2,853u

    P2

    (C Bet) M.Buehrle: Toronto 2,00 1,00u | Toronto 2,30 1,538u | Toronto 2,24 2,853u
    (A Bet) CJ Wilson: LA Angels 2,01 0,99u


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  2. 05-01-13 07:42 AM #807
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    Stiff! Are u playing the pitcher system for only a half unit? Cause u have writtem sfter every bet 1 unit?
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  3. 05-01-13 09:59 AM #808
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    Quote Originally Posted by knugen View Post
    Stiff! Are u playing the pitcher system for only a half unit? Cause u have writtem sfter every bet 1 unit?
    Stifler puts up the odds he took the bet at (European format) and the amount wagered to win 1 unit. Both pitchers are + money today, so the amount required to place a wager is much lower.
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  4. 05-01-13 10:28 AM #809
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    Thats not what i ask for. On firdt page he written that he gonna play the pitcher system for a half unit and the other for 1 unit, now its written after angels bet A its to win 1 unit and not a half, i wonder if he changed his mind
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  5. 05-01-13 11:14 AM #810
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    Quote Originally Posted by knugen View Post
    Thats not what i ask for. On firdt page he written that he gonna play the pitcher system for a half unit and the other for 1 unit, now its written after angels bet A its to win 1 unit and not a half, i wonder if he changed his mind
    The value of the unit may vary (S1-S3: $100, P1-P3: $50), but he always posts the cost in units to win 1 whole unit.
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  6. 05-01-13 11:18 AM #811
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    Quote Originally Posted by knugen View Post
    Stiff! Are u playing the pitcher system for only a half unit? Cause u have writtem sfter every bet 1 unit?
    yes im playing the pitcher system for half the unit amount. Still its 1unit for the system. Nobody should care about my unit size, as everyone has to make their own decisions about the unit amount.
    Nothing wrong with posting the pitcher system also to win 1 unit as i said my unit size is half the S1-S3 unit amount.

    Atleast the half unit amount was the plan, i often missed using half unit amount on the pitcher series. But that shouldnt be anyone´s problem here. Same goes for parlaying D bets, i know what im doing here and when to parlay a D bet. Im not planing to parlay every D bet, but if its too much i will always keep a parlay in mind. I could easily post the standard D bet, but i wanna list things like im playing it. Its still about making money...

    And for those saying im not playing the system like its used to be played i can only say "i doint give a flying shit". Its not like im changing the whole system, im just reducing the juice by adding a small extra play i feel good about. And so far it worked out.

    Im not pissed or anything like that, i just wanna add my point of view to some discussions coming up lately.
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  7. 05-01-13 03:17 PM #812
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    yes im playing the pitcher system for half the unit amount. Still its 1unit for the system. Nobody should care about my unit size, as everyone has to make their own decisions about the unit amount.
    Nothing wrong with posting the pitcher system also to win 1 unit as i said my unit size is half the S1-S3 unit amount.

    Atleast the half unit amount was the plan, i often missed using half unit amount on the pitcher series. But that shouldnt be anyone´s problem here. Same goes for parlaying D bets, i know what im doing here and when to parlay a D bet. Im not planing to parlay every D bet, but if its too much i will always keep a parlay in mind. I could easily post the standard D bet, but i wanna list things like im playing it. Its still about making money...

    And for those saying im not playing the system like its used to be played i can only say "i doint give a flying shit". Its not like im changing the whole system, im just reducing the juice by adding a small extra play i feel good about. And so far it worked out.

    Im not pissed or anything like that, i just wanna add my point of view to some discussions coming up lately.
    As you said "who cares what you do personally" if you are afraid of a D bet size. At least post accurate system results without these bullshit soccer parlays. No wonder you records look so good from seasons past if this is the crap you include. Accurate loss amounts are not truly reflected which totally inflates your results. If that is how you want to be known then so be it.
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  8. 05-01-13 03:25 PM #813
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    As you said "who cares what you do personally" if you are afraid of a D bet size. At least post accurate system results without these bullshit soccer parlays. No wonder you records look so good from seasons past if this is the crap you include. Accurate loss amounts are not truly reflected which totally inflates your results. If that is how you want to be known then so be it.
    That's not true at all. Stifler copped extra losses last season because of parlay's which he included in his record so it works both ways and doesn't necessarily inflate the record.
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    Last years units won is accurate. actual games won and lost are off.
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  10. 05-01-13 03:43 PM #815
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    Guys relax haha.
    Stiffler post plays, and plays it the way he likes it. It's up to us to follow or not.
    I did not parlay, but that is just me. If I would have lost, would I have thought, "damn I should have parlayed", answer is NO.
    I do not follow every chase blindly.
    As for the post results, it is his thread, I assume it is his way to keep track.
    I have my own spreadsheet, and the odds that I get when placing my bets.
    Bottom line, it is all about making money ppl.
    I guess the saying is "if it is not broken, don't fix it"
    Let's make this another profitable month, now lets PLAY BALL
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  11. 05-01-13 04:37 PM #816
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    As you said "who cares what you do personally" if you are afraid of a D bet size. At least post accurate system results without these bullshit soccer parlays. No wonder you records look so good from seasons past if this is the crap you include. Accurate loss amounts are not truly reflected which totally inflates your results. If that is how you want to be known then so be it.
    Im not claiming to be the biggest hero with any backtested records. Those numbers are not important to me. Only the current season is what matters the most. Also im the only one who need to rate any past records and draw the right conclusions. I cant impact what everone else is pulling out of those records, all i can do is giving some little warnings not to look at past records only (nba season proofs that point).

    On a sidenote the backtested numbers change from year to year, so speaking about inflating my results is pretty funny. The backtested record for 2012 in the screen (post #3) is different from record in the 2012 thread due to team changes.

    So if anyone doesnt like the way i post the plays in here - just look away or dont play it, it´s so freaking simple. Im not forcing anyone to follow those plays. Everyone should have an own spreadsheet anyway, i doubt someone will have the same lines on every single game.
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    - S2 Phillies line added.

    01.05.2013

    S2

    (A Bet) Phil: Phillies 1,769 1,30u
    (A Bet) Cle fade: Phillies 1,769 1,30u

    P1

    (C Bet) M.Buehrle: Toronto 2,00 1,00u | Toronto 2,30 1,538u| Toronto 2,24 2,853u

    P2

    (C Bet) M.Buehrle: Toronto 2,00 1,00u | Toronto 2,30 1,538u | Toronto 2,24 2,853u
    (A Bet) CJ Wilson: LA Angels 2,01 0,99u



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  13. 05-01-13 07:51 PM #818
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    Friggin Jays....
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  14. 05-02-13 02:06 AM #819
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    01.05.2013

    S2

    (A Bet) Phil: Phillies 1,769 1,30u
    (A Bet) Cle fade: Phillies 1,769 1,30u

    P1

    (C Bet) M.Buehrle: Toronto 2,00 1,00u | Toronto 2,30 1,538u| Toronto 2,24 2,853u

    P2

    (C Bet) M.Buehrle: Toronto 2,00 1,00u | Toronto 2,30 1,538u | Toronto 2,24 2,853u
    (A Bet) CJ Wilson: LA Angels 2,01 0,99u
    records:
    S1: W 6 | L 0 (+6,00 units)
    S2: W 4 | L 0 (+4,00 units)
    S3: W 49 | L 1 (+12,497 units)
    P1: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
    P2: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
    P3: W 0 | L 0 (0 units)


    pending:
    - P1 M.Buehrle, D Bet on next start
    - P2 M.Buehrle, D Bet on next start
    - S1 NYY, B Bet on 07.05.2013
    - S1 SD fade, B Bet on 03.05.2013
    - S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 10.05.2013
    - P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start on the road
    - P3 J.Lester, B Bet on next start on the road
    - S2 Phil, B Bet on 06.05.2013
    - S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 03.05.2013

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    02.05.2013

    S3

    (A Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,862 1,16u


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    only 1 play? Not enough for action junkies like myself
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    thank!
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  18. 05-03-13 03:05 AM #823
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post
    02.05.2013

    S3

    (A Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,862 1,16u
    records:
    S1: W 6 | L 0 (+6,00 units)
    S2: W 4 | L 0 (+4,00 units)
    S3: W 49 | L 1 (+12,497 units)
    P1: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
    P2: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
    P3: W 0 | L 0 (0 units)


    pending:
    - P1 M.Buehrle, D Bet on next start
    - P2 M.Buehrle, D Bet on next start
    - S1 NYY, B Bet on 07.05.2013
    - S1 SD fade, B Bet on 03.05.2013
    - S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 10.05.2013
    - P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start on the road
    - P3 J.Lester, B Bet on next start on the road
    - S2 Phil, B Bet on 06.05.2013
    - S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 03.05.2013
    - S3 LAA, B Bet on 03.05.2013

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    S1

    (B Bet) SD fade: San Francisco 1,893 1,12u | Arizona 1,806 2,63u
    (A Bet) NYY: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u

    S2

    (B Bet) Cle fade: Phillies 1,769 1,30u | Minnesota 2,34 1,716u
    (A Bet) Phil fade: Miami - waiting on line movement

    S3

    (B Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,862 1,16u | LA Angels - waiting on line movement
    (A Bet) Oak fade: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u
    (A Bet) Pit: Pittsburgh 1,847 1,18u

    P3

    (A Bet) C.Sabathia: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u


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  20. 05-03-13 06:16 AM #825
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    are the cleveland fade that we continue today when cleveland are at home and the other one when they are on the road?

    and of course thank you stiffler
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    I think you forgot the Yankees in the other 4 systems LOL JUST KIDDING!!!
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  22. 05-03-13 08:55 AM #827
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    Quote Originally Posted by knugen View Post
    are the cleveland fade that we continue today when cleveland are at home and the other one when they are on the road?

    and of course thank you stiffler
    yes

    - S3 LAA line added.

    03.05.2013

    S1

    (B Bet) SD fade: San Francisco 1,893 1,12u | Arizona 1,806 2,63u
    (A Bet) NYY: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u

    S2

    (B Bet) Cle fade: Phillies 1,769 1,30u | Minnesota 2,34 1,716u
    (A Bet) Phil fade: Miami - waiting on line movement

    S3

    (B Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,862 1,16u | LA Angels 1,826 2,615u
    (A Bet) Oak fade: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u
    (A Bet) Pit: Pittsburgh 1,847 1,18u

    P3

    (A Bet) C.Sabathia: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u


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    - S2 Miami line added.

    03.05.2013

    S1

    (B Bet) SD fade: San Francisco 1,893 1,12u | Arizona 1,806 2,63u
    (A Bet) NYY: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u

    S2

    (B Bet) Cle fade: Phillies 1,769 1,30u | Minnesota 2,34 1,716u
    (A Bet) Phil fade: Miami 2,60 0,625u

    S3

    (B Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,862 1,16u | LA Angels 1,826 2,615u
    (A Bet) Oak fade: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u
    (A Bet) Pit: Pittsburgh 1,847 1,18u

    P3

    (A Bet) C.Sabathia: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u


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  24. 05-03-13 01:40 PM #829
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    Quote Originally Posted by dalogester View Post
    only 1 play? Not enough for action junkies like myself
    Is this enough action for you today??

    Needed the breather from yesterday to get ready for today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DocZ View Post
    Is this enough action for you today??

    Needed the breather from yesterday to get ready for today.


    This combined with Dark Knight and SpankMyThighs is plenty of action for me. $800+ roll and $400+ in play
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post

    03.05.2013

    S1

    (B Bet) SD fade: San Francisco 1,893 1,12u | Arizona 1,806 2,63u
    (A Bet) NYY: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u

    S2

    (B Bet) Cle fade: Phillies 1,769 1,30u | Minnesota 2,34 1,716u
    (A Bet) Phil fade: Miami 2,60 0,625u

    S3

    (B Bet) LAA: LA Angels 1,862 1,16u | LA Angels 1,826 2,615u
    (A Bet) Oak fade: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u
    (A Bet) Pit: Pittsburgh 1,847 1,18u

    P3

    (A Bet) C.Sabathia: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u
    records:
    S1: W 6 | L 0 (+6,00 units)
    S2: W 4 | L 0 (+4,00 units)
    S3: W 51 | L 1 (+14,497 units)
    P1: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
    P2: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
    P3: W 0 | L 0 (0 units)


    pending:
    - P1 M.Buehrle, D Bet on next start
    - P2 M.Buehrle, D Bet on next start
    - S1 NYY, B Bet on 07.05.2013
    - S1 SD fade, C Bet on 04.05.2013
    - S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 10.05.2013
    - P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start on the road
    - P3 J.Lester, B Bet on next start on the road
    - S2 Phil, B Bet on 06.05.2013
    - S2 Cle fade, C Bet on 04.05.2013
    - S1 NYY, B Bet on 04.05.2013
    - S3 Oak fade, B Bet on 04.05.2013
    - S2 Phil fade, B Bet on 04.05.2013
    - P3 C.Sabathia, B Bet on next start @home

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    04.05.2013

    S1

    (C Bet) SD fade: San Francisco 1,893 1,12u | Arizona 1,806 2,63u | Arizona 1,84 5,655u
    (B Bet) NYY: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u | NY Yankees 1,877 2,759u

    S2

    (C Bet) Cle fade: Phillies 1,769 1,30u | Minnesota 2,34 1,716u | Minnesota - waiting on line movement
    (B Bet) Phil fade: Miami 2,60 0,625u | Miami 3,04 0,797u

    S3

    (B Bet) Oak fade: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u | NY Yankees 1,877 2,759u


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    If we keep playing Miami pretty soon they will be paying us to bet on them
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    - Minnesota line added.

    04.05.2013

    S1

    (C Bet) SD fade: San Francisco 1,893 1,12u | Arizona 1,806 2,63u | Arizona 1,84 5,655u
    (B Bet) NYY: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u | NY Yankees 1,877 2,759u

    S2

    (C Bet) Cle fade: Phillies 1,769 1,30u | Minnesota 2,34 1,716u | Minnesota 2,04 3,862u
    (B Bet) Phil fade: Miami 2,60 0,625u | Miami 3,04 0,797u

    S3

    (B Bet) Oak fade: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u | NY Yankees 1,877 2,759u


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  30. 05-04-13 01:01 PM #835
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    damn those twins...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stifler View Post


    04.05.2013

    S1

    (C Bet) SD fade: San Francisco 1,893 1,12u | Arizona 1,806 2,63u | Arizona 1,84 5,655u
    (B Bet) NYY: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u | NY Yankees 1,877 2,759u

    S2

    (C Bet) Cle fade: Phillies 1,769 1,30u | Minnesota 2,34 1,716u | Minnesota 2,04 3,862u
    (B Bet) Phil fade: Miami 2,60 0,625u | Miami 3,04 0,797u

    S3

    (B Bet) Oak fade: NY Yankees 1,704 1,42u | NY Yankees 1,877 2,759u
    records:
    S1: W 8 | L 0 (+8,00 units)
    S2: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
    S3: W 52 | L 1 (+15,497 units)
    P1: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
    P2: W 5 | L 0 (+5,00 units)
    P3: W 0 | L 0 (0 units)


    pending:
    - P1 M.Buehrle, D Bet on next start
    - P2 M.Buehrle, D Bet on next start
    - S1 NYY, B Bet on 07.05.2013
    - S2 Cle fade, B Bet on 10.05.2013
    - P3 M.Cain fade, B Bet on next start on the road
    - P3 J.Lester, B Bet on next start on the road
    - S2 Phil, B Bet on 06.05.2013
    - S2 Cle fade, D Bet on 05.05.2013
    - P3 C.Sabathia, B Bet on next start @home

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  32. 05-05-13 09:06 AM #837
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    05.05.2013

    S1

    (A Bet) Col fade: Tampa Bay 2,02 0,98u

    S2

    (D Bet) Cle fade: Phillies 1,769 1,30u | Min 2,34 1,716u | Min 2,04 3,862u | Minnesota 2,37 5,75u

    P3

    (B Bet) J.Lester: Boston 1,794 1,26u | Boston 2,36 1,662u
    (A Bet) J.Saunders fade: Toronto 1,641 1,56u


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