1. 04-10-12 09:57 AM #1
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    how is Nef Feliz making his FIRST ever start -270???

    that is insane. guys going from closer to starter hardly ever works out. he was a closer for a reason...he has no control of his breaking pitches. wouldn't be surprised if he walks 6 or 7.

    not taking seattle cause the rangers can hang 10+ but still this line is ridiculous.
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  2. 04-10-12 10:05 AM #2
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    Then why not bet the over..
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  3. 04-10-12 10:15 AM #3
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    cause I don't just throw money around son
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  4. 04-10-12 10:17 AM #4
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    Because he is facing Blake Beavan, yes, Blake Beavan
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  5. 04-10-12 10:31 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsoxfreak91 View Post
    Because he is facing Blake Beavan, yes, Blake Beavan
    i can honestly say i have absolutely no idea who that is...and im really good with players.
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  6. 04-10-12 10:35 AM #6
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    You've never heard of Blake Beavan. He is a Swedish prodigy that was signed by the team 3 years ago. Unfortunately for the Mariners, his swedish team wouldnt release him so he had to stay until this season. He posted a .87 ERA last year with 289 strikeouts in 198 innings.
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  7. 04-10-12 10:38 AM #7
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    ^^ lol
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  8. 04-10-12 10:40 AM #8
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    He is pitching vs a toilet.....He may only go 5 innings but they even won Yesterday
    when the Jap folded 1st inning. BA against this guy is unreal but he doesnt have many innings
    I can see the line.
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  9. 04-10-12 10:41 AM #9
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    Offense is considered when making a line also.
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  10. 04-10-12 10:44 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsoxfreak91 View Post
    Because he is facing Blake Beavan, yes, Blake Beavan
    His WH/IP ratio really isn't bad (1.24) at all, his K rate sucks (about 4 per 9) and does like to give up the long ball.
    Here's my stance, unless you have Bob Gibson going against the 1962 Mets, I don't lay -200 + on the outcome of a regular season baseball game, especially in April.


    Year Age Tm Lg W L W-L% ERA G GS GF CG SHO SV IP H R ER HR BB IBB SO HBP BK WP BF ERA+ WHIP H/9 HR/9 BB/9 SO/9 SO/BB Awards
    2011 22 SEA AL 5 6 .455 4.27 15 15 0 0 0 0 97.0 106 46 46 13 15 0 42 3 0 4 405 90 1.247 9.8 1.2 1.4 3.9 2.80
    1 Yr 5 6 .455 4.27 15 15 0 0 0 0 97.0 106 46 46 13 15 0 42 3 0 4 405 90 1.247 9.8 1.2 1.4 3.9 2.80
    162 Game Avg. 11 14 .455 4.27 34 34 0 0 0 0 220 240 104 104 29 34 0 95 7 0 9 918 90 1.247 9.8 1.2 1.4 3.9 2.80
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  11. 04-10-12 11:02 AM #11
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    Beaven's got great control, he'll need a curveball like Blyleven to win tonight though
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  12. 04-10-12 11:06 AM #12
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    because the rangers can hit homeruns and the mariners have to get 3 hits to get a run.
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  13. 04-10-12 02:10 PM #13
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    TEXAS RANGERS CAREER STATISTICS VS. BLAKE BEAVAN
    BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Elvis Andrus 6 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .167 .167 .167 .333
    Adrian Beltre 5 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 .200 .333 .400 .733
    Nelson Cruz 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .333 .333 .333 .667
    Alberto Gonzalez 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .500 .667 .500 1.167
    Josh Hamilton 6 1 1 0 0 0 0 1 .167 .167 .333 .500
    Ian Kinsler 6 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .167 .286 .167 .452
    Mitch Moreland 6 1 0 0 1 3 0 1 .167 .167 .667 .833
    David Murphy 6 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .167 .167 .167 .333
    Mike Napoli 2 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 .500 .667 .500 1.167
    Yorvit Torrealba 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Michael Young 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Totals 51 9 2 0 1 3 2 6 .176 .236 .275 .511
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  14. 04-10-12 02:14 PM #14
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    SEATTLE MARINERS CAREER STATISTICS VS. NEFTALI FELIZ
    BATTER AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS
    Dustin Ackley 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 .000 .500 .000 .500
    Mike Carp 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 2 .000 .333 .000 .333
    Chone Figgins 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .000 .333 .000 .333
    Franklin Gutierrez 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
    John Jaso 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000 1.000 .000 1.000
    Alex Liddi 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Adam Moore 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Miguel Olivo 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Trayvon Robinson 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Michael Saunders 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Kyle Seager 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Justin Smoak 2 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .000 .333 .000 .333
    Ichiro Suzuki 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Casper Wells 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 .000 .000 .000 .000
    Totals 28 0 0 0 0 0 4 13 .000 .152 .000 .152
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  15. 04-10-12 03:13 PM #15
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    There's no Carp, Moore, and probably not Montero in the Seattle lineup. That being said, I'm still taking Seattle over the flammable Feliz at that much juice.
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  16. 04-10-12 03:18 PM #16
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    Montero hurt already?
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  17. 04-10-12 03:28 PM #17
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    I may take SEA. Beavan vs. TX. is 1-1 with a 1.84 ERA and WHIP of 0.818.!!
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  18. 04-10-12 03:37 PM #18
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    Montero's listed as questionable due to tummy trouble. That's why he didn't play yesterday.
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  19. 04-10-12 04:05 PM #19
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    line is not -270 guy,

    -230 almost everywhere
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  20. 04-10-12 08:38 PM #20
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    Nef killing it
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  21. 04-10-12 09:10 PM #21
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    closers to starters usually don't work out because it means the team is despite and wont support him. this is not the case, feliz was used as the closer because they needed him up as one. he was always planned to be a starter.
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  22. 04-10-12 09:25 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoo youk View Post
    that is insane. guys going from closer to starter hardly ever works out. he was a closer for a reason...he has no control of his breaking pitches. wouldn't be surprised if he walks 6 or 7.

    not taking seattle cause the rangers can hang 10+ but still this line is ridiculous.
    because through 16 innings entering tonights game Feliz's ERA vs the Mariners was 0.00! Now through the 7 scoreless he pitched tonight thats 24 innings that the man has not given up a run to the Mariners...truly amazing!
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  23. 05-13-12 07:33 PM #23
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    no no IN THE 2ND!!!!
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  24. 05-13-12 07:52 PM #24
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    Feliz sucks. Rangers need an ace and have none. Such a great team but with no ace, the world series will always slip away. Hell, they even had an ace with Cliff Lee and it still didn't work for them.
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