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    A Friend of Mine is Possbly Going to the Penn for a Long Time.

    My friend is/was a cop until about 3-4 years ago. He had a lot of enemy's like most cops, but someone killed his mother to get back at him. He busted some ms13 gang members and in retaliation they shot his mother at her home while carrying in groceries and made it clear who they where. After going through all kinds of emotional issues after the crime, he came to the conclusion that he could no longer be a "good cop". Every time he pulled over or investigated a hispanic crime he felt like he could not be impartial to them. So after a couple of run ins with hispanics he decided to do the right thing and resign from police work.

    This is the point most of his friends lost touch with him as he became reclusive and kept to his self. I had a few conversations and even a couple of beers with him and other than a divorce because of his issues, he seemed to be ok. Well, a few months ago, I found out he had been arrested for numerous alleged homicides of only ms 13 gang members who where mostly illegal aliens perpetuating crime though their gang ties.

    He is not charged with killing anyone other than ms13 gang members and from what I heard there may be a lot of them. I spoke with a family member of his and the FBI and the federal prosecutors may be able to get him off due to mental issues. He could spend less than 3 years in a minimal security mental hospital/prison.




    Just wanted to get others input or thoughts on this?

    Also, do you think this would be a good basis for a movie/book?

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    Salvadoreans are mostly illegal??

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    Wow... Sounds Iike a few episodes of Dexter

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    was this in atl? if so where at

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Salvadoreans are mostly illegal??
    The one's he killed in the US were. I don't have all the info on who or how many he killed only that everyone he killed were ms13's

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    Book 1st, then movie, ya could make a good one.

    I don't necessarily have a problem with what he did, I probably would have done it as well. However, theres a lot of gray area here, even amongst thieves. Mainly how did he know who the gang members were? What if they were ex-gang members and turned their life around? Seems risky that he may end up killing an innocent person. What city did this take place in? I haven't heard anything of it

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    He was a cop in the pacific northwest. The killings happened in several places. He just drifted for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harlee71 View Post
    The one's he killed in the US were. I don't have all the info on who or how many he killed only that everyone he killed were ms13's
    How do you know??

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    So it's ok, to kill "illegal" gangsters... No matter what, ms has him marked, so I'll say goodbye to him....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap dat 4ss View Post
    Book 1st, then movie, ya could make a good one.

    I don't necessarily have a problem with what he did, I probably would have done it as well. However, theres a lot of gray area here, even amongst thieves. Mainly how did he know who the gang members were? What if they were ex-gang members and turned their life around? Seems risky that he may end up killing an innocent person. What city did this take place in? I haven't heard anything of it

    Most probably wont hear about it. The FBI is keeping it quiet until his metal capacity at the time is enough to prosecute or sentence him to the metal hospital for the crimes he committed. If he is found "insane" at the time, it will probably go under the radar because of the nature of the crimes and the retaliatory measures that have already happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post

    How do you know??
    I know his family memebers and they have told me some of what they know. As far as if it is ok? I am torn between and eye for an eye and You can't kill innocent people( I use that term lightly here). I don't like to judge anyone, and I have never and hope to never be in, the same situation as my friend was put in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    So it's ok, to kill "illegal" gangsters... No matter what, ms has him marked, so I'll say goodbye to him....
    sequel

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    So it's ok, to kill "illegal" gangsters... No matter what, ms has him marked, so I'll say goodbye to him....
    Doesn't matter if they're legal or illegal... MS13 are fukking scumbags and deserve to be wiped out. Good for your friend, harlee.

    The Sombra Negra better step their game up and kill off more of those useless gangsters

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    So it's ok, to kill "illegal" gangsters... No matter what, ms has him marked, so I'll say goodbye to him....
    Personally if you are MS 13, BLOODS, KKK, CRIPS, LATIN KINGS, SKIN HEADS, and any other gang or hate group I think there is only one good place for you. UNDER GROUND.

    I dont think I would want to be the one to help them get there though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post
    Doesn't matter if they're legal or illegal... MS13 are fukking scumbags and deserve to be wiped out. Good for your friend, harlee.

    The Sombra Negra better step their game up and kill off more of those useless gangsters
    The sad thing is most maras where created by the USA... and how is it good for his friend.. He'll be dead soon, as well...

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    King Mayan

    It's so obvious you're a racist, its the internet.. you don't have to pretend not to be...

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    Very bizarre story, real life vigilante fighting justice. Him getting them hoodlums back for killing his Mom is more than justifiable, I see a jury nullification here with this guy getting a light sentence. The Feds are a little more tougher though, if they take the case on civil right violation issues.

    Then again, did you make this story up by watching the Punisher.

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    Mayan, doubt he cares if he dies. Guys killed his mom

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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    King Mayan

    It's so obvious you're a racist, its the internet.. you don't have to pretend not to be...
    When I was a kid I dealt with rogue cops that thought I was a hoodlum.. So cops fukk shit up all the time..and I love my white brothers... And don't be a hypocrite iifold..

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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98 View Post
    Very bizarre story, real life vigilante fighting justice. Him getting them hoodlums back for killing his Mom is more than justifiable, I see a jury nullification here with this guy getting a light sentence. The Feds are a little more tougher though, if they take the case on civil right violation issues.

    Then again, did you make this story up by watching the Punisher.

    Hard to make up real life! I am not a CSI writer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cap dat 4ss View Post
    Mayan, doubt he cares if he dies. Guys killed his mom
    I know, I'll do the same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post

    When I was a kid I dealt with rogue cops that thought I was a hoodlum.. So cops fukk shit up all the time..and I love my white brothers... And don't be a hypocrite iifold..
    I can see where you could get that. He told me he had to quit because he started abusing hispanic's and didn't feel it was right. Again from what I am told he only killed members of the gang that killed his mom. So, he knew he was having issues and didn't get help or wasn't given help. I am not sure how much help was given to him after his mother was murdered so I can't speculate on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by harlee71 View Post
    I can see where you could get that. He told me he had to quit because he started abusing hispanic's and didn't feel it was right. Again from what I am told he only killed members of the gang that killed his mom. So, he knew he was having issues and didn't get help or wasn't given help. I am not sure how much help was given to him after his mother was murdered so I can't speculate on that.
    That's the problem... Most Maras don't kill people... So, he may have just killed pathetic crooks or drug dealers... Not his moms murderer.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    The sad thing is most maras where created by the USA... and how is it good for his friend.. He'll be dead soon, as well...
    "Created by the USA"??? How about created by shitty parenting/role models and fukking douchebag gang members? No one forced them to be the scum of the earth.

    And his friend took a stand... I hope he takes a lot more down with him if they do get to him. Would be nice to see the Sombra Negras do some immediate and well-known damage to MS13 if this story gets big (for the unaware, Sombra Negras are an underground group of former police/military in El Salvador that made it their mission to wipe out MS13)

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    Quote Originally Posted by harlee71 View Post
    Hard to make up real life! I am not a CSI writer.
    Just saying. The Punisher was cop, quit his job after his entire family was murder. Went dark and all of a sudden mafia bosses were getting murder left and right. I say if anything, your buddy pull a page from the Punisher. US Troops see their buddies get killed daily, fortunately for them they can still take their anger out on the local Arabs with no repercussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post
    "Created by the USA"??? How about created by shitty parenting/role models and fukking douchebag gang members? No one forced them to be the scum of the earth.

    And his friend took a stand... I hope he takes a lot more down with him if they do get to him. Would be nice to see the Sombra Negras do some immediate and well-known damage to MS13 if this story gets big (for the unaware, Sombra Negras are an underground group of former police/military in El Salvador that made it their mission to wipe out MS13)
    and what are the Mara?? Ex guerillas( just like sombra negra) from the civil war that USA helped with..... You know El Salvador is practically a colony of the USA right...And sombra negra is getting wiped out as well.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    That's the problem... Most Maras don't kill people... So, he may have just killed pathetic crooks or drug dealers... Not his moms murderer.....
    I dont know about most, but one of the one's that murdered his mother was caught, but the others were never captured. That, and he had a couple of high profiles busts of ms13 in his area. He told me he was told who the ones that killed her were, but at the time he was trying to get his mind off of what happened and was doing his best not to go after them. Then the divorce started and it wasnt long after his wife took his little girl and moved back to the pacific NW that this all started happening.

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    Mayan,

    you can't play both sides..

    one day you're in here talking American politics, the next you're in here defending illegals and ms13 cowards... even proudly talking about how they have him "marked" like they are some great power..

    they fukked up coming to America with their bullshit, they'll be wiped out soon enough.. pick a side.. either youre an American, or a piece of shit ms-13 apologist communist .. cops that have to put up with scum like your pals in ms-13 everyday are the reason you got harrassed as a kid.. and ill be willing to guess you were probably trying to emulate the fukk ups that those cops were chasing while you were young..
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    and what are the Mara?? Ex guerillas( just like sombra negra) from the civil war that USA helped with..... You know El Salvador is practically a colony of the USA right...And sombra negra is getting wiped out as well.....
    The leadership of the Mara are ex-guerillas... doesn't mean the whole gang is

    Are you seriously defending them?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iifold View Post
    Mayan,

    you can't play both sides..

    one day you're in here talking American politics, the next you're in here defending illegals and ms13 cowards... even proudly talking about how they have him "marked" like they are some great power..

    they fukked up coming to America with their bullshit, they'll be wiped out soon enough.. pick a side.. either youre an American, or a piece of shit ms-13 apologist communist .. cops that have to put up with scum like your pals in ms-13 everyday are the reason you got harrassed as a kid.. and ill be willing to guess you were probably trying to emulate the fukk ups that those cops were chasing while you were young..
    you're one dumb muthafukka..... I'm a salvadorean-American....... And cops were scum when I was a kid(rampart crash).......next time a white kills a Latino....that Latinos family should just kill white people until they are caught(iifolds logic)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post
    The leadership of the Mara are ex-guerillas... doesn't mean the whole gang is

    Are you seriously defending them?!?
    How am I defending them?? A cop probably killed salvadoreans for no reason, ms tattoo(a blast to the head) .... They are scumbags, but that doesn't mean that they had to die.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rsnnh12 View Post
    The leadership of the Mara are ex-guerillas... doesn't mean the whole gang is

    Are you seriously defending them?!?
    He speaks with a forked tounge...

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    you're one dumb muthafukka..... I'm a salvadorean-American....... And cops were scum when I was a kid(rampart crash).......next time a white kills a Latino....that Latinos family should just kill white people until they are caught(iifolds logic)
    At the very least replace "white people" with "skinheads" to be fair...and honest with yourself.

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    movie script?

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    This is one of the biggest problems in the world, the law system is very friendly to criminals. Gang members who serve no purpose in the world except to cause trouble deserve to be shot and the killer should be rewarded not put in jail.

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