CAUTION --- TONY 5 DIMES TRYING to TAKE A SHOT AT PLAYERS RIGHT NOW.

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  • robmpink
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 01-09-07
    • 13205

    #281
    I didn't want to read through all this garbage but did a 5 dimes rep or sbr official verify if they are legit lines? If not, both the book and especially sbr should be ashamed. If it is an A+ book and there is this much concern get off of your ass. If there has been clarification, I apologize.
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    • raiders72001
      Senior Member
      • 08-10-05
      • 11138

      #282
      Originally posted by robmpink
      I didn't want to read through all this garbage but did a 5 dimes rep or sbr official verify if they are legit lines? If not, both the book and especially sbr should be ashamed. If it is an A+ book and there is this much concern get off of your ass. If there has been clarification, I apologize.
      SBR implied that the odds were good and matched the market.
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      • durito
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 07-03-06
        • 13173

        #283
        Originally posted by boondoggle
        I have wagered thousands upon thousands of dollars at other books and not one single time have I had a wager cancelled due to bad line.
        Wow thousands of dollars.

        You must bet sick odds.
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        • StraitShooter
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 07-22-09
          • 10464

          #284
          You guys should not waste another second of your lives trying to convince this guy

          no matter what he is always right and you are always wrong

          watch the nba finals...mlb or softball..not worth the time of fukin day
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          • bettilimbroke999
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-04-08
            • 13254

            #285
            **** you guys, 5Dimes is awesome, I just won a half million in 30 minutes at video poker!

            10 high or better pays 20 to 1

            IM RICH BIATCH!
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            • boondoggle
              SBR MVP
              • 09-29-10
              • 3014

              #286
              Originally posted by durito
              Wow thousands of dollars. You must bet sick odds.
              Not a single cancelled bet....but I don't play at 5dimes....imagine that.
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              • raiders72001
                Senior Member
                • 08-10-05
                • 11138

                #287
                Originally posted by StraitShooter
                You guys should not waste another second of your lives trying to convince this guy

                no matter what he is always right and you are always wrong

                watch the nba finals...mlb or softball..not worth the time of fukin day
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                • durito
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 07-03-06
                  • 13173

                  #288
                  Originally posted by boondoggle
                  Not a single cancelled bet....but I don't play at 5dimes....imagine that.
                  Imagine what that you are an idiot that never got a good line in your life?

                  How much you down lifetime?
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                  • boondoggle
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-29-10
                    • 3014

                    #289
                    Originally posted by durito
                    Imagine what that you are an idiot that never got a good line in your life? How much you down lifetime?
                    durito..why degrade the conversation into ad homs? If are unable to sway the person you are debating with-- than you need to agree to disagree. Throwing insults at people simply illustrates your lack of control and lack of ability to debate the topic at hand thus needing to attack people personally.
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                    • durito
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-03-06
                      • 13173

                      #290
                      This isn't something that is open for disagreement, you are completely wrong.
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                      • firedawg
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 10-08-08
                        • 39219

                        #291
                        tony is a cokkkk........ 5 dimes a solid book... anything else?
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                        • kero214
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 10-28-09
                          • 110

                          #292
                          Originally posted by durito
                          Imagine what that you are an idiot that never got a good line in your life?

                          How much you down lifetime?
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                          • SR
                            SBR MVP
                            • 09-10-08
                            • 1317

                            #293
                            SBR is in bed with some of these clowns. So its hard to really get accurate opinions.
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                            • firedawg
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 10-08-08
                              • 39219

                              #294
                              Originally posted by SR
                              SBR is in bed with some of these clowns. So its hard to really get accurate opinions.
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                              • wiffle
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 07-07-10
                                • 610

                                #295
                                CAUTION: 5DIMES HAS MAVS +3.5 2h at -108 and pinny has it at -110

                                R DEY TRING 2 SCAM ME
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                                • sharpcat
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 12-19-09
                                  • 4516

                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by boondoggle
                                  durito..why degrade the conversation into ad homs? If are unable to sway the person you are debating with-- than you need to agree to disagree. Throwing insults at people simply illustrates your lack of control and lack of ability to debate the topic at hand thus needing to attack people personally.
                                  Durito is right.

                                  You do not know crap about what you are attempting to debate.
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                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-24-10
                                    • 65084

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by wiffle
                                    CAUTION: 5DIMES HAS MAVS +3.5 2h at -108 and pinny has it at -110

                                    R DEY TRING 2 SCAM ME
                                    First you need money in there chief

                                    Become A Pro!

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                                    • boondoggle
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-29-10
                                      • 3014

                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by sharpcat
                                      Durito is right. You do not know crap about what you are attempting to debate.
                                      If I do not know crap than why resort to personal insults.....thank you
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                                      • boondoggle
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 09-29-10
                                        • 3014

                                        #299
                                        Shari in another thread pointed out that 5dimes did pay net losers in the casino game when the odds started at 112% and it was the day the bot player started. They did this without SBR requesting.

                                        I will suspend my relentless attacking of 5dimes as it appears that they do try to do the right thing most of the time.

                                        I stand corrected. Thanks again Shari for pointing this information out.
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                                        • sharpcat
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 12-19-09
                                          • 4516

                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by boondoggle
                                          If I do not know crap than why resort to personal insults.....thank you
                                          When you refer to an incompetent bookmaker what are you implying? What makes a book maker incompetent?

                                          You claim that Tony is intentionally freerolling with bad lines but than you claim that he is incompetent
                                          What is it? is he intentionally giving himself a huge advantage? Or is he incompetent?

                                          Seriously WTF are you rambling about?

                                          Do you not understand the difference between a line that is set at +4200 when the rest of the market is at +420 and a line set at +10000 when the rest of the market is at +6000?

                                          Push rates
                                          +420=19.23%
                                          +4200= 2.33%
                                          BAD LINE

                                          +6000=1.64%
                                          +10000=0.99%

                                          REDUCED JUICE
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                                          • lt56
                                            SBR High Roller
                                            • 04-16-10
                                            • 151

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by nobs
                                            Absolutely not. There are several complaints where Tony didnt pay out on long shot winners. Tony routinely claims bad line and calls the player a shot taker, cheater, theif etc. If the player doesnt happily agree to the reduced payout, Tony gets very verbally abusive even telling one player to go Die.

                                            No all the complaints are not just casino, thats just the latest complaint on tony.
                                            Okay, go post the sportsbook long shot winners that Tony didn't pay out on.
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                                            • KKoz9
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-07-06
                                              • 1982

                                              #302
                                              WTF is a bad line?

                                              If it's posted and available to wager on then it's valid.

                                              Fukin Crooks.
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                                              • lt56
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 04-16-10
                                                • 151

                                                #303
                                                Originally posted by boondoggle
                                                so it is "clueless" to question why 5dimes has so many bad lines....I will not be reading anymore of your posts
                                                5Dimes did not have bad lines; they have better lines than the other books on long shots because they pay what the correct odds of the long shots really are. Wake up dummies and play your long shots at 5Dimes. 9 pages later have any of you 5Dimes whiners caught on that the OP pointed out one of the positives of 5Dimes.
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                                                • boondoggle
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 09-29-10
                                                  • 3014

                                                  #304
                                                  Originally posted by KKoz9
                                                  WTF is a bad line? If it's posted and available to wager on then it's valid. Fukin Crooks.
                                                  Why do most people in this thread disagree with you?
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                                                  • rfr3sh
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 11-07-09
                                                    • 10229

                                                    #305
                                                    A bad line is when the line you bet is not anywhere close to the market price
                                                    does that even need to be made clear?
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                                                    • shari91
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-23-10
                                                      • 32661

                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by boondoggle
                                                      Shari in another thread pointed out that 5dimes did pay net losers in the casino game when the odds started at 112% and it was the day the bot player started. They did this without SBR requesting. I will suspend my relentless attacking of 5dimes as it appears that they do try to do the right thing most of the time. I stand corrected. Thanks again Shari for pointing this information out.
                                                      It's all good boondoggle.

                                                      Just to make it clear, I'm not sticking up for Tony/5Dimes/anyone. I do think this thread is slightly misleading because the prices at 5Dimes are comparable to the actual market - which I think needs to be looked at when making a comparison. Not just looking at lines from a few books. But maybe it's served a purpose and saved some people frustration in the future by learning something they didn't know before: When determining what an actual market is, look at an exchange.

                                                      And I was honestly curious as to whether there were examples of Tony outright stiffing on big dog future bets because that's something that I as a bettor would want to be aware of obviously. I have a pretty good memory and couldn't recall any but that doesn't mean they don't exist. That's why I asked. Unfortunately after a few hours of looking through a heap of threads across the Internet, I became so frustrated reading examples of people bitching along the lines of the -1 bet 2-1 final score scenario, that I've taken a break for the moment. I'll keep looking again later today.
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                                                      • mr.inpak
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 12-13-09
                                                        • 449

                                                        #307
                                                        my suggestion would be why when you see a line +4000 when everyone else has +400 why not call 5 dimes ask for tony and ask him if this is a bad line then you will cover yourself
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                                                        • Counterfeit Cash
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 01-03-11
                                                          • 668

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by boondoggle
                                                          Shari in another thread pointed out that 5dimes did pay net losers in the casino game when the odds started at 112% and it was the day the bot player started. They did this without SBR requesting.

                                                          I will suspend my relentless attacking of 5dimes as it appears that they do try to do the right thing most of the time.

                                                          I stand corrected. Thanks again Shari for pointing this information out.
                                                          I've heard Tony stiffed a few on that deal as well, can anyone confirm?
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                                                          • evo34
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 11-09-08
                                                            • 1032

                                                            #309
                                                            Whether or not there is a conspiracy to inflate odds to attract action that will ultimately be cancelled if won (highly doubtful), the fact remains that it's in a book's best interest to make a certain number of errors. That is, unless the book cancels bets that are bad lines that end up losers (I'm waiting for stories of that ever actually happening). Assuming this does not happen, every error a book makes (even assuming all are innocent typos) results in greater expected income for the book. If loss, bet is good. If win, manager is alerted to audit a longshot bet winning and bet is cancelled. Obviously, there is a point where if you make too many errors, you lose action. But clearly there is no incentive whatsoever for reducing errors from the current level. This is very different from any other business, where errors actually cost the company money, rather than generate additional profit.
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                                                            • wiffle
                                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                                              • 07-07-10
                                                              • 610

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                              First you need money in there chief

                                                              Become A Pro!


                                                              i got mobniez at 5d yo
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                                                              • vividjohn45
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 11-21-10
                                                                • 6331

                                                                #311
                                                                call up tony or live chat if wagering and not sure. ez to handle.

                                                                i've won a bad line before. we all have proly.

                                                                it was austrilian soccer game played like 10 hours earlier then book had. scorre as like 6-5 so i bet the over. and won.

                                                                so bad lines do occur.

                                                                just check with them.

                                                                they paid also. i did not overkill.
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                                                                • Goat Milk
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 03-24-10
                                                                  • 25850

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by SBR_John

                                                                  Tough crowd. So you think he sets a return of +390% for the player on purpose?? Yea thats really taking a shot...cough cough. Tony is guilty of setting a lot of markets and doing things that other bookies wouldnt bother with like casino games and low juice. There will be more mistakes than some vanilla line book.

                                                                  If you think he is slimy then bet somewhere else. 5Dimes has won the best book here at SBR in an open vote format by you guys. So make noise about slimy and bad and have your fun but also know the majority really love this book and for good reason.
                                                                  the majority won't vote for it anymore after this thread. what a good read nobs.

                                                                  I agree with Deuce's point out of all of these most. Nonetheless, Tony fukked himself here
                                                                  Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                  • Goat Milk
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 03-24-10
                                                                    • 25850

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by evo34
                                                                    That is, unless the book cancels bets that are bad lines that end up losers (I'm waiting for stories of that ever actually happening).
                                                                    Did you not read the article LOL
                                                                    Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                    • Goat Milk
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 03-24-10
                                                                      • 25850

                                                                      #314
                                                                      LOL
                                                                      Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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                                                                      • Goat Milk
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 03-24-10
                                                                        • 25850

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Its not even the fact that its him being stingy but you just lose a little credibility when you're a snake like that. what a weasel. just post the correct line, what a greedy imbecile
                                                                        Cause Sleep is the Cousin of Death
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