I didn't want to read through all this garbage but did a 5 dimes rep or sbr official verify if they are legit lines? If not, both the book and especially sbr should be ashamed. If it is an A+ book and there is this much concern get off of your ass. If there has been clarification, I apologize.
CAUTION --- TONY 5 DIMES TRYING to TAKE A SHOT AT PLAYERS RIGHT NOW.
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robmpinkSBR Posting Legend
- 01-09-07
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#281Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
- 08-10-05
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#282I didn't want to read through all this garbage but did a 5 dimes rep or sbr official verify if they are legit lines? If not, both the book and especially sbr should be ashamed. If it is an A+ book and there is this much concern get off of your ass. If there has been clarification, I apologize.Comment -
StraitShooterSBR Posting Legend
- 07-22-09
- 10464
#284You guys should not waste another second of your lives trying to convince this guy
no matter what he is always right and you are always wrong
watch the nba finals...mlb or softball..not worth the time of fukin dayComment -
bettilimbroke999SBR Posting Legend
- 02-04-08
- 13254
#285**** you guys, 5Dimes is awesome, I just won a half million in 30 minutes at video poker!
10 high or better pays 20 to 1
IM RICH BIATCH!Comment -
raiders72001Senior Member
- 08-10-05
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boondoggleSBR MVP
- 09-29-10
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#289durito..why degrade the conversation into ad homs? If are unable to sway the person you are debating with-- than you need to agree to disagree. Throwing insults at people simply illustrates your lack of control and lack of ability to debate the topic at hand thus needing to attack people personally.Comment -
duritoSBR Posting Legend
- 07-03-06
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#290This isn't something that is open for disagreement, you are completely wrong.Comment -
firedawgBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 10-08-08
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#291tony is a cokkkk........ 5 dimes a solid book... anything else?Comment -
SRSBR MVP
- 09-10-08
- 1317
#293SBR is in bed with some of these clowns. So its hard to really get accurate opinions.Comment -
wiffleSBR Wise Guy
- 07-07-10
- 610
#295CAUTION: 5DIMES HAS MAVS +3.5 2h at -108 and pinny has it at -110
R DEY TRING 2 SCAM MEComment -
sharpcatRestricted User
- 12-19-09
- 4516
#296durito..why degrade the conversation into ad homs? If are unable to sway the person you are debating with-- than you need to agree to disagree. Throwing insults at people simply illustrates your lack of control and lack of ability to debate the topic at hand thus needing to attack people personally.
You do not know crap about what you are attempting to debate.Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
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boondoggleSBR MVP
- 09-29-10
- 3014
#299Shari in another thread pointed out that 5dimes did pay net losers in the casino game when the odds started at 112% and it was the day the bot player started. They did this without SBR requesting.
I will suspend my relentless attacking of 5dimes as it appears that they do try to do the right thing most of the time.
I stand corrected. Thanks again Shari for pointing this information out.Comment -
sharpcatRestricted User
- 12-19-09
- 4516
#300
You claim that Tony is intentionally freerolling with bad lines but than you claim that he is incompetent
What is it? is he intentionally giving himself a huge advantage? Or is he incompetent?
Seriously WTF are you rambling about?
Do you not understand the difference between a line that is set at +4200 when the rest of the market is at +420 and a line set at +10000 when the rest of the market is at +6000?
Push rates
+420=19.23%
+4200= 2.33%
BAD LINE
+6000=1.64%
+10000=0.99%
REDUCED JUICEComment -
lt56SBR High Roller
- 04-16-10
- 151
#301Absolutely not. There are several complaints where Tony didnt pay out on long shot winners. Tony routinely claims bad line and calls the player a shot taker, cheater, theif etc. If the player doesnt happily agree to the reduced payout, Tony gets very verbally abusive even telling one player to go Die.
No all the complaints are not just casino, thats just the latest complaint on tony.Comment -
KKoz9SBR MVP
- 09-07-06
- 1982
#302WTF is a bad line?
If it's posted and available to wager on then it's valid.
Fukin Crooks.Comment -
lt56SBR High Roller
- 04-16-10
- 151
#3035Dimes did not have bad lines; they have better lines than the other books on long shots because they pay what the correct odds of the long shots really are. Wake up dummies and play your long shots at 5Dimes. 9 pages later have any of you 5Dimes whiners caught on that the OP pointed out one of the positives of 5Dimes.Comment -
rfr3shSBR Posting Legend
- 11-07-09
- 10229
#305A bad line is when the line you bet is not anywhere close to the market price
does that even need to be made clear?Comment -
shari91BARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 02-23-10
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#306Shari in another thread pointed out that 5dimes did pay net losers in the casino game when the odds started at 112% and it was the day the bot player started. They did this without SBR requesting. I will suspend my relentless attacking of 5dimes as it appears that they do try to do the right thing most of the time. I stand corrected. Thanks again Shari for pointing this information out.
Just to make it clear, I'm not sticking up for Tony/5Dimes/anyone. I do think this thread is slightly misleading because the prices at 5Dimes are comparable to the actual market - which I think needs to be looked at when making a comparison. Not just looking at lines from a few books. But maybe it's served a purpose and saved some people frustration in the future by learning something they didn't know before: When determining what an actual market is, look at an exchange.
And I was honestly curious as to whether there were examples of Tony outright stiffing on big dog future bets because that's something that I as a bettor would want to be aware of obviously. I have a pretty good memory and couldn't recall any but that doesn't mean they don't exist. That's why I asked. Unfortunately after a few hours of looking through a heap of threads across the Internet, I became so frustrated reading examples of people bitching along the lines of the -1 bet 2-1 final score scenario, that I've taken a break for the moment. I'll keep looking again later today.Comment -
mr.inpakSBR Sharp
- 12-13-09
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#307my suggestion would be why when you see a line +4000 when everyone else has +400 why not call 5 dimes ask for tony and ask him if this is a bad line then you will cover yourselfComment -
Counterfeit CashSBR Wise Guy
- 01-03-11
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#308Shari in another thread pointed out that 5dimes did pay net losers in the casino game when the odds started at 112% and it was the day the bot player started. They did this without SBR requesting.
I will suspend my relentless attacking of 5dimes as it appears that they do try to do the right thing most of the time.
I stand corrected. Thanks again Shari for pointing this information out.Comment -
evo34SBR MVP
- 11-09-08
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#309Whether or not there is a conspiracy to inflate odds to attract action that will ultimately be cancelled if won (highly doubtful), the fact remains that it's in a book's best interest to make a certain number of errors. That is, unless the book cancels bets that are bad lines that end up losers (I'm waiting for stories of that ever actually happening). Assuming this does not happen, every error a book makes (even assuming all are innocent typos) results in greater expected income for the book. If loss, bet is good. If win, manager is alerted to audit a longshot bet winning and bet is cancelled. Obviously, there is a point where if you make too many errors, you lose action. But clearly there is no incentive whatsoever for reducing errors from the current level. This is very different from any other business, where errors actually cost the company money, rather than generate additional profit.Comment -
wiffleSBR Wise Guy
- 07-07-10
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#310
i got mobniez at 5d yoComment -
vividjohn45SBR Hall of Famer
- 11-21-10
- 6331
#311call up tony or live chat if wagering and not sure. ez to handle.
i've won a bad line before. we all have proly.
it was austrilian soccer game played like 10 hours earlier then book had. scorre as like 6-5 so i bet the over. and won.
so bad lines do occur.
just check with them.
they paid also. i did not overkill.Comment -
Goat MilkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-24-10
- 25850
#312
Tough crowd. So you think he sets a return of +390% for the player on purpose?? Yea thats really taking a shot...cough cough. Tony is guilty of setting a lot of markets and doing things that other bookies wouldnt bother with like casino games and low juice. There will be more mistakes than some vanilla line book.
If you think he is slimy then bet somewhere else. 5Dimes has won the best book here at SBR in an open vote format by you guys. So make noise about slimy and bad and have your fun but also know the majority really love this book and for good reason.the majority won't vote for it anymore after this thread. what a good read nobs.
I agree with Deuce's point out of all of these most. Nonetheless, Tony fukked himself hereCause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
Goat MilkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-24-10
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#314LOLCause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment -
Goat MilkBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 03-24-10
- 25850
#315Its not even the fact that its him being stingy but you just lose a little credibility when you're a snake like that. what a weasel. just post the correct line, what a greedy imbecileCause Sleep is the Cousin of DeathComment
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