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  • TheJames
    SBR High Roller
    • 02-05-11
    • 234

    #106
    Originally posted by slapshot
    brewers -1 to win 3.53
    I thought we bet to win a unit, not risk one unit to win x amount
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    • slapshot
      SBR MVP
      • 10-27-07
      • 1194

      #107
      Originally posted by TheJames
      I thought we bet to win a unit, not risk one unit to win x amount
      i don't know how you dealt with the three games losing streak we had. if you follow my example, you have to get another two wins before all losses are won back/
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      • dlunc3
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 10-31-09
        • 9129

        #108
        Originally posted by slapshot
        what book are you looking at for angels -180?

        for pinnacle lines:
        covers:
        brewers are -174, angels -168

        sbr:
        brewers -168, angels -170

        this one is tricky...research is based on covers opening lines i will stick with that here. that will make brewers the play. good luck what ever you choose to do.

        4-4-2 -1.07
        brewers -1 to win 3.53
        Are you sure?? I see the opening pinnacle line at covers for milw at -158, and laa -168.. wouldn't that make laa the play??
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        • slapshot
          SBR MVP
          • 10-27-07
          • 1194

          #109
          Originally posted by dlunc3
          Are you sure?? I see the opening pinnacle line at covers for milw at -158, and laa -168.. wouldn't that make laa the play??
          pinnacle opened at +158 at covers....clearly a typo....minutes after the line release the line got shifted over to have the correct favorite...milwaukee...not cubs
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          • teecee
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 09-18-09
            • 6298

            #110
            play whatever you want to play, slapshot, but i'm seeing the angels as -170 opener v. brew crew -168. g/l, dude.
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            • TheJames
              SBR High Roller
              • 02-05-11
              • 234

              #111
              Originally posted by teecee
              play whatever you want to play, slapshot, but i'm seeing the angels as -170 opener v. brew crew -168. g/l, dude.
              Brewers opened at -168 at betjamaica not pinnacle, at pinnacle they opened at -174
              covers.com/sports/odds/lineHistory.aspx?eventId=317616&sport=ml b

              and at pinnacle, angels opened at -168
              covers.com/sports/odds/lineHistory.aspx?eventId=316701&sport=ml b

              this makes brewers the play for today according to the system
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              • teecee
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 09-18-09
                • 6298

                #112
                didn't know covers lines were what dictated the play. apologies for the clutter.
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                • do5000
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 06-06-08
                  • 853

                  #113
                  Originally posted by slapshot
                  what book are you looking at for angels -180?

                  for pinnacle lines:
                  covers:
                  brewers are -174, angels -168

                  sbr:
                  brewers -168, angels -170

                  this one is tricky...research is based on covers opening lines i will stick with that here. that will make brewers the play. good luck what ever you choose to do.

                  4-4-2 -1.07
                  brewers -1 to win 3.53
                  SBR odds had LAA opening at -180 when i checked. i think i remember last year some people said the opening numbers changed sometimes.
                  i should have checked covers first, sorry for the confusion.
                  MIL was the play for today.
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                  • floridagolfer
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-19-08
                    • 2757

                    #114
                    Two one-run wins in a row; are we having fun yet?
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                    • TheJames
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 02-05-11
                      • 234

                      #115
                      a push is better than a loss
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                      • honeyeater
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-20-11
                        • 253

                        #116
                        So somehow in my expertise of this system I have won twice while you guys have lost- Cinn and the Angels. I have no idea what even the creator of this thread is looking at but the system it's self is pretty basic. So I'm going to keep moving on while you people go back and forth about how to play it. I've said before it really does not matter what book you reference they all will pan out the same over he season. Just stay with the same book throughout the season.
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                        • TheJames
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 02-05-11
                          • 234

                          #117
                          Originally posted by honeyeater
                          So somehow in my expertise of this system I have won twice while you guys have lost- Cinn and the Angels. I have no idea what even the creator of this thread is looking at but the system it's self is pretty basic. So I'm going to keep moving on while you people go back and forth about how to play it. I've said before it really does not matter what book you reference they all will pan out the same over he season. Just stay with the same book throughout the season.
                          I'm pretty sure he's looking at the line history at covers.com for pinnacle, where are you looking?
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                          • honeyeater
                            Restricted User
                            • 01-20-11
                            • 253

                            #118
                            Originally posted by TheJames
                            I'm pretty sure he's looking at the line history at covers.com for pinnacle, where are you looking?
                            I'm going into covers then match-ups then line history then look at the top at Pinnacle. But that would have been LAA today so that's what I bet. But everyone says it's wrong. I back tested last year with just looking at Covers lines- Just the highest that day (most favorite) and it basically the same results. The secret is being consistent in your reference and money management.
                            In my opinion.
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                            • TheJames
                              SBR High Roller
                              • 02-05-11
                              • 234

                              #119
                              Originally posted by honeyeater

                              I'm going into covers then match-ups then line history then look at the top at Pinnacle. But that would have been LAA today so that's what I bet. But everyone says it's wrong. I back tested last year with just looking at Covers lines- Just the highest that day (most favorite) and it basically the same results. The secret is being consistent in your reference and money management.
                              In my opinion.
                              I think the confusion from today was from the typo at covers with putting the Brewers at +odds. According to the opening lines technically LA was the favorite so I can see why you went with that.

                              I'm sure we will have 90+% of the same plays
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                              • honeyeater
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-20-11
                                • 253

                                #120
                                So I'm playing LAA today (the 11th of April) because they opened at -180 at Pinnacle. Seattle was a second followed by Boston. But LAA is my play (again).
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                                • floridagolfer
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-19-08
                                  • 2757

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by honeyeater
                                  So I'm playing LAA today (the 11th of April) because they opened at -180 at Pinnacle. Seattle was a second followed by Boston. But LAA is my play (again).
                                  Correct. Monday's play is the Angels.
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                                  • Fitz22
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 01-25-10
                                    • 606

                                    #122
                                    so is angels a C bet then if your playing the RL -1.5
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                                    • atari5200
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 09-15-10
                                      • 464

                                      #123
                                      angels opened at what?
                                      are you kidding me?
                                      there must've been a pitcher change if its at -128 now
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                                      • atari5200
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 09-15-10
                                        • 464

                                        #124
                                        no pitching change, aybar is out, i still don't get it, i'm on covers here and i have no indication why the line dropped so much.
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                                        • Dan Kelly
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 02-19-11
                                          • 1332

                                          #125
                                          There is a pitching change - Chatwood instead of Aybar
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                                          • atari5200
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 09-15-10
                                            • 464

                                            #126
                                            chatwood instead of Haren. thanks dan kelly. so what the hell happens in this case?
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                                            • Fitz22
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 01-25-10
                                              • 606

                                              #127
                                              so new play?
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                                              • slapshot
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-27-07
                                                • 1194

                                                #128
                                                4-4-3 -1.07
                                                monday
                                                seattle -1

                                                if you already placed the bet with aybar and laa...your book should cancel the bet
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                                                • atari5200
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 09-15-10
                                                  • 464

                                                  #129
                                                  aybar is a shortstop. it's dan haren that's out.

                                                  seattle has lost 7 in a row. Hernandez is a great pitcher with no run support.
                                                  Last edited by atari5200; 04-11-11, 12:09 PM.
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                                                  • ramper62
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 10-26-09
                                                    • 40

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by honeyeater
                                                    So somehow in my expertise of this system I have won twice while you guys have lost- Cinn and the Angels. I have no idea what even the creator of this thread is looking at but the system it's self is pretty basic. So I'm going to keep moving on while you people go back and forth about how to play it. I've said before it really does not matter what book you reference they all will pan out the same over he season. Just stay with the same book throughout the season.
                                                    Well why go back and forth here with SEA being the default new fav. Wait to hear what he has to say since his post was before the pitching scratch of Haren which was of course a big part of the reason why LAA was the high fav...He is the expert.
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                                                    • TheJames
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 02-05-11
                                                      • 234

                                                      #131
                                                      I'm not comfortable placing a bet on Seattle so I'll pass today
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                                                      • DustyDiamond
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 12-19-09
                                                        • 772

                                                        #132
                                                        I almost think today should be a wash. There is no filter for this type of situation.
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                                                        • floridagolfer
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-19-08
                                                          • 2757

                                                          #133
                                                          I'm playing Seattle. I know, I know, the Mariners weren't the biggest opening favorite . . . BUT, with the pitchers scheduled that are actually going to start, they are, so that's the play for me. Good luck to whatever you decide to do.
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                                                          • dlunc3
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 10-31-09
                                                            • 9129

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by floridagolfer
                                                            I'm playing Seattle. I know, I know, the Mariners weren't the biggest opening favorite . . . BUT, with the pitchers scheduled that are actually going to start, they are, so that's the play for me. Good luck to whatever you decide to do.
                                                            I'm on them too.. all hail king felix
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                                                            • allenc85
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 03-26-10
                                                              • 403

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by DustyDiamond
                                                              I almost think today should be a wash. There is no filter for this type of situation.
                                                              When the system was back tested you wouldn't know this "type of situation" happened. It would simply have listed the Mariners as the favorite. I think the system play is with out a doubt the M's... if you don't wanna play that's cool but it wouldn't be following the system per say
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                                                              • slapshot
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-27-07
                                                                • 1194

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by allenc85
                                                                When the system was back tested you wouldn't know this "type of situation" happened. It would simply have listed the Mariners as the favorite. I think the system play is with out a doubt the M's... if you don't wanna play that's cool but it wouldn't be following the system per say
                                                                spot on!

                                                                quite a come back….mariners down 7-0 after 6…..going 8-0 last 3

                                                                we are tied with 2008 for fewest w’s after 12 games played….based on last 5 years back testing.

                                                                4-4-4 -1.07
                                                                tuesday
                                                                tie between yankees and angels…..-175 on both
                                                                yanks has the higher total…they are the play today.
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                                                                • do5000
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 06-06-08
                                                                  • 853

                                                                  #137
                                                                  cant argue with a push
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                                                                  • allenc85
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 03-26-10
                                                                    • 403

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Today Yankees?
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                                                                    • Fitz22
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 01-25-10
                                                                      • 606

                                                                      #139
                                                                      where the hell can you get -1 lines at? I can only get -1 1/2.
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                                                                      • TheJames
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 02-05-11
                                                                        • 234

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by Fitz22
                                                                        where the hell can you get -1 lines at? I can only get -1 1/2.
                                                                        I get mine at Pinnacle
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