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  • teecee
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    • 09-18-09
    • 6298

    #526
    I would call it a play
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    • barryt
      SBR High Roller
      • 01-23-13
      • 237

      #527
      Query says
      Giants
      Cardinals
      Nationals
      Red Sox
      All night games so I'll check back then and if RIOF4
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      • bryanoens
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-28-12
        • 224

        #528
        barry and mack, thanks for keeping the thread alive while TT is banned. I havent been following during May due to historical data but its nice to keep tracking.
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        • Sucka4parlays
          SBR High Roller
          • 03-10-17
          • 103

          #529
          Originally posted by barryt
          Query says
          Giants
          Cardinals
          Nationals
          Red Sox
          All night games so I'll check back then and if RIOF4
          Sorry, new to this thread, and still trying to understand. Are all of these plays or, possible plays? If they aren't plays yet, will there be an update before the games start to verify which ones are plays for today? thanks!
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          • Mackballs
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-01-16
            • 5810

            #530
            Originally posted by Sucka4parlays
            Sorry, new to this thread, and still trying to understand. Are all of these plays or, possible plays? If they aren't plays yet, will there be an update before the games start to verify which ones are plays for today? thanks!
            These are the possible plays for today. No other games really need monitoring because the lines simply won't reach the necessary numbers.

            At the moment, these are all plays if the lines closed now. But we monitor these lines throughout the day and up until first pitch to see if they move to an unplayable number.
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            • Sucka4parlays
              SBR High Roller
              • 03-10-17
              • 103

              #531
              Originally posted by Mackballs
              These are the possible plays for today. No other games really need monitoring because the lines simply won't reach the necessary numbers.

              At the moment, these are all plays if the lines closed now. But we monitor these lines throughout the day and up until first pitch to see if they move to an unplayable number.
              Gotcha, thanks! So if you do consider them plays for the day, then you risk "to win" 1unit on both Ml and RL correct?
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              • Mackballs
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 12-01-16
                • 5810

                #532
                Originally posted by Sucka4parlays
                Gotcha, thanks! So if you do consider them plays for the day, then you risk "to win" 1unit on both Ml and RL correct?
                Yes, you would risk to win 1 unit total on the ml and RL. So, to win 0.5% or half a unit on ml and risk to win 0.5% or half a unit on the rl, for a total to win one unit.

                TT came up with the RIOF4 plays before he got banned. These plays are the same as the RIOF or regular plays, except they take into account when the opposing team we are betting against used four or more pitchers the previous game. I believe these plays had even higher roi when he backtested them. He said he was upping his risk to win 2.5% total on these plays. So to win 1.25% or 1.25 units on both the ml and RL for a total of 2.5.

                He didn't say that the increase in bet size was necessary but that he was personally gonna do it. I have been upping my bet size on these for the record.
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                • Sucka4parlays
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 03-10-17
                  • 103

                  #533
                  Originally posted by Mackballs
                  Yes, you would risk to win 1 unit total on the ml and RL. So, to win 0.5% or half a unit on ml and risk to win 0.5% or half a unit on the rl, for a total to win one unit.

                  TT came up with the RIOF4 plays before he got banned. These plays are the same as the RIOF or regular plays, except they take into account when the opposing team we are betting against used four or more pitchers the previous game. I believe these plays had even higher roi when he backtested them. He said he was upping his risk to win 2.5% total on these plays. So to win 1.25% or 1.25 units on both the ml and RL for a total of 2.5.

                  He didn't say that the increase in bet size was necessary but that he was personally gonna do it. I have been upping my bet size on these for the record.
                  Thank you so much for the explanation and clarification, I really appreciate it! Can't wait to test the system! BOL
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                  • kilopro
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 07-20-16
                    • 63

                    #534
                    Current results as of 4pm Eastern

                    RIOF

                    May 12, 2017 box Fri home Cardinals Mike Leake - R Cubs Eddie Butler - R -135 8.5
                    May 12, 2017 box Fri home Giants Johnny Cueto - R Reds Scott Feldman - R -150 7.0
                    May 12, 2017 box Fri home Red Sox Rick Porcello - R Rays Alex Cobb - R -165 8.5

                    RIOF4

                    May 12, 2017 box Fri home Giants Johnny Cueto - R Reds Scott Feldman - R -150 7.0
                    May 12, 2017 box Fri home Red Sox Rick Porcello - R Rays Alex Cobb - R -165 8.5
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                    • Sucka4parlays
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 03-10-17
                      • 103

                      #535
                      Originally posted by kilopro
                      Current results as of 4pm Eastern

                      RIOF

                      May 12, 2017 box Fri home Cardinals Mike Leake - R Cubs Eddie Butler - R -135 8.5
                      May 12, 2017 box Fri home Giants Johnny Cueto - R Reds Scott Feldman - R -150 7.0
                      May 12, 2017 box Fri home Red Sox Rick Porcello - R Rays Alex Cobb - R -165 8.5

                      RIOF4

                      May 12, 2017 box Fri home Giants Johnny Cueto - R Reds Scott Feldman - R -150 7.0
                      May 12, 2017 box Fri home Red Sox Rick Porcello - R Rays Alex Cobb - R -165 8.5
                      So the proposed plays are STL, BOS, SF ML&RL to win .5 units each, and SF and BOS additional .75 units each?
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                      • Mackballs
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 12-01-16
                        • 5810

                        #536
                        Originally posted by Sucka4parlays
                        So the proposed plays are STL, BOS, SF ML&RL to win .5 units each, and SF and BOS additional .75 units each?
                        Yes.

                        Definitely watch the nationals line though up until game time. It's very close now.
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                        • Sucka4parlays
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 03-10-17
                          • 103

                          #537
                          Originally posted by Mackballs
                          Yes.

                          Definitely watch the nationals line though up until game time. It's very close now.
                          Nationals game is postponed right?
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                          • Mackballs
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 12-01-16
                            • 5810

                            #538
                            Originally posted by Sucka4parlays
                            Nationals game is postponed right?
                            Yes, my bad. I'm taking the under for sure!
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                            • Mackballs
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-01-16
                              • 5810

                              #539
                              RIOF4​ with current lines:

                              Boston -225 - needs -163 to qualify.

                              San Diego -138 - only needs to be favorite to qualify.


                              RIOF with current lines:

                              Arizona -160 - needs -146 to qualify.



                              Games to monitor:

                              Miami -120 - would need -123 to qualify, but if you are using 10 cent adjustment then would only need -113 to qualify. Would be RIOF4 as well.

                              Baltimore/KC - very interesting here, don't think I've seen this yet. Both teams would qualify to be a play as their odds have increased the past two games up til today. Basically whoever becomes the favorite in this game would be the play. Right now both teams are -105 so it's a pickem. Monitor this one. Niether team used 4 pitchers yesterday so this would be just an RIOF play on whoever the favorite becomes.

                              LA Angels -120. This is not a qualifying play at the moment. It would need -133 but if you are using 10 cent adjustment then -123 would be needed and definitely worth watching. Would be RIOF only.
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                              • kilopro
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 07-20-16
                                • 63

                                #540
                                As of 12:30 EST

                                RIOF

                                May 13, 2017 box Sat home Angels Ricky Nolasco - R Tigers Daniel Norris - L -133 8.5
                                May 13, 2017 box Sat home Brewers Zach Davies - R Mets Robert Gsellman - R -112 9.0
                                May 13, 2017 box Sat home Diamondbacks Taijuan Walker - R Pirates Trevor Williams - R -152 10.5
                                May 13, 2017 box Sat home Nationals Tanner Roark - R Phillies Nick Pivetta - R -180 9.0
                                May 13, 2017 box Sat home Red Sox Chris Sale - L Rays Blake Snell - L -210 7.5
                                May 13, 2017 box Sat away Padres Trevor Cahill - R White Sox Dylan Covey - R -138 9.0

                                RIOF4

                                May 13, 2017 box Sat home Brewers Zach Davies - R Mets Robert Gsellman - R -112 9.0
                                May 13, 2017 box Sat home Nationals Tanner Roark - R Phillies Nick Pivetta - R -180 9.0
                                May 13, 2017 box Sat home Red Sox Chris Sale - L Rays Blake Snell - L -210 7.5
                                May 13, 2017 box Sat away Padres Trevor Cahill - R White Sox Dylan Covey - R -138 9.0
                                Make it or break it kind of day. Good luck to those who play them.
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                                • kilopro
                                  SBR Hustler
                                  • 07-20-16
                                  • 63

                                  #541
                                  Good lord the steam on Boston/Sale!
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                                  • teecee
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 09-18-09
                                    • 6298

                                    #542
                                    Why are you monitoring Balt/KC? If both teams lines have been trending upward/downward - however you want to say it - then there can't be a play on that game. Right? This system relies on playing a favorite whose lines have moved downward over x amount of games vs a dog whose lines have increased over x amount of games. Correct me if I am wrong, please.
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                                    • Mackballs
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-01-16
                                      • 5810

                                      #543
                                      You're right, teecee. Sorry about that. Disregard what I said. Idk what I was thinking there. Feel like I'm confusing people at this point. I just wanna keep the thread alive because I think it's gonna be successful when it's all said and done.
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                                      • JerseyGodFather
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-23-17
                                        • 1494

                                        #544
                                        where has Tech Trader been at?
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                                        • teecee
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 09-18-09
                                          • 6298

                                          #545
                                          Originally posted by Mackballs
                                          You're right, teecee. Sorry about that. Disregard what I said. Idk what I was thinking there. Feel like I'm confusing people at this point. I just wanna keep the thread alive because I think it's gonna be successful when it's all said and done.
                                          We all get confused at times. It's all good. Just needed some clarity in this instance. Just trying to help.
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                                          • Mackballs
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-01-16
                                            • 5810

                                            #546
                                            Currently qualifying RIOF:

                                            Cleveland -152 (needs -149)


                                            Currently qualifying RIOF4:

                                            Cubs -115 (just needs to be favorite)


                                            Lines to monitor:

                                            Washington -165 ( needs -181) - would be RIOF4 if it gets there.
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                                            • Mackballs
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 12-01-16
                                              • 5810

                                              #547
                                              TT was right about May. Results just aren't there the past couple weeks. Might be time to take a few weeks off and pick it up beginning of June.
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                                              • jlani93
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 05-06-16
                                                • 107

                                                #548
                                                5/15 - TT's 1st Inning Plays

                                                Hi guys. Glad to see you guys are keeping things going. I had a family emergency and just got back into town this weekend.

                                                Just a heads up...I will be sharing TT's 1st inning plays for those interested. I may include additional plays from his other systems he is working on occasion. Not sure if I should start a new thread, or simply post them in his original "1st innings" thread...Any suggestions or preference?


                                                Here are the plays for today (5/15):
                                                I'll be risking to win 0.5% of BR on each bet.

                                                1st inning O/U Plays -

                                                ARZ Over 0.5 Runs (-143)

                                                Other Plays

                                                ARZ Over 9.5 (-102)

                                                SEA ML (-119)
                                                SEA RL -1.5 (+171)


                                                Last edited by jlani93; 05-15-17, 04:04 PM. Reason: Typo correction
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                                                • GoodBadUgly
                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                  • 03-25-12
                                                  • 19

                                                  #549
                                                  jlani93, thanks for posting. My suggestion is to start a new thread titled "2017 MLB TechnicalTrader's 1st Inning Plays."
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                                                  • MalikHusam
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 09-07-16
                                                    • 2685

                                                    #550
                                                    any riof/riof4 today
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                                                    • barryt
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 01-23-13
                                                      • 237

                                                      #551
                                                      Originally posted by Mackballs
                                                      TT was right about May. Results just aren't there the past couple weeks. Might be time to take a few weeks off and pick it up beginning of June.
                                                      14-6 (2.60, 70.0%) avg line: -157.7 / 145.7 on / against: +$599 / -$659 ROI: +19.0% / -33.0%
                                                      That's as good as the 65% overall. RL has been about even.

                                                      i did 2010 to 2016 the other day . May was not the worst( forgot the exact results)
                                                      However did notice one important thing,
                                                      the avg win% was about 62% at avg odds of -162 and the ml bet results show a profit of about $1.50 per game and an ROI of less than 1%. If one bet all the games at -162 one would lose money.
                                                      RL did better ROI of 3%
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                                                      • Slanina
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-21-09
                                                        • 3827

                                                        #552
                                                        Originally posted by jlani93
                                                        Hi guys. Glad to see you guys are keeping things going. I had a family emergency and just got back into town this weekend.

                                                        Just a heads up...I will be sharing TT's 1st inning plays for those interested. I may include additional plays from his other systems he is working on occasion. Not sure if I should start a new thread, or simply post them in his original "1st innings" thread...Any suggestions or preference?


                                                        Here are the plays for today (5/15):
                                                        I'll be risking to win 0.5% of BR on each bet.

                                                        1st inning O/U Plays -

                                                        ARZ Over 0.5 Runs (-143)

                                                        Other Plays

                                                        ARZ Over 9.5 (-102)

                                                        SEA ML (-119)
                                                        SEA RL -1.5 (+171)


                                                        New thread.

                                                        What's the backtest results on O/U 1st inning?
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                                                        • doubledime
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 04-22-09
                                                          • 9751

                                                          #553
                                                          Is TT still around? I heard he's on blogabet, and goes by Charlie's Hustle or something like that. He always added good insight on this thread.
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                                                          • oilcountry99
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 08-29-10
                                                            • 707

                                                            #554
                                                            He gone!
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                                                            • KonaZonie
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 08-07-09
                                                              • 240

                                                              #555
                                                              If he is Charlie's Hustle, that could explain why he got booted. These forums frown upon folks who gather followers and try to recruit them to their personal site. Not sure if that is what happened, but makes more sense if the rumor DoubleDime heard is true.
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                                                              • jlani93
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 05-06-16
                                                                • 107

                                                                #556
                                                                I agree Doubledime!
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                                                                • jlani93
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 05-06-16
                                                                  • 107

                                                                  #557
                                                                  Originally posted by doubledime
                                                                  Is TT still around? I heard he's on blogabet, and goes by Charlie's Hustle or something like that. He always added good insight on this thread.

                                                                  I heard the same thing as Doubledime.
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                                                                  • SpookyFellow
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-01-09
                                                                    • 1687

                                                                    #558
                                                                    Yes
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                                                                    • barryt
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 01-23-13
                                                                      • 237

                                                                      #559
                                                                      Only one play today was Dodgers RIOF . Won 6-1 behind Kershaw. Was -180 closed at -190 my book.
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                                                                      • barryt
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 01-23-13
                                                                        • 237

                                                                        #560
                                                                        Thursday. No plays today. MAybe twins 2 nd half of double header
                                                                        gl
                                                                        barryt
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