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  • Xpertcapper
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 04-14-09
    • 621

    #211
    Originally posted by peterpan19
    Xpertcapper
    yeah your right...3 plays but 2 are over -175...to determine a PT I first choose 9 (Run update program) and after that I choose 7 (PT) and that are the PT plays....but I dont play them, bc like I said b4 we dont know how they do over the season...and I already have a lot of plays...PR plays, best bets (+cash money overlay plays) and of course my own plays...
    hope that helps...if you have more Questions hit me with a PM

    GL
    What are the plays i put in bold?
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    • twister
      SBR Sharp
      • 09-09-08
      • 405

      #212
      Originally posted by Nick6570
      Alright im about to ask the dumbest question. And im only asking here because i have been following this forum and it seems like you guys are pretty good with dumb questions and wont give me crap. But for the life of me i dont understand the Unit System. Like when someone says +6.7 units what does that mean. Honestly I havent even made a bet before i have just been paper trading trying to understand everything and this is the only thing i really dont get.
      Thanks
      A "unit" is whatever you want it to be, i.e your most frequent amount that you risk on every bet.

      For example, say you risked $100 most of the time...$100 would become 1 unit. Then, if you risked $150 on a game you were more confident on, this would be 1.5 units.

      Thus, your winnings/losses are always a reflective of your most frequent risk amount. i.e if a person said $100 = 1 unit, and said he was up 33.47 units, that means that they are up 33.47*$100 - $3347.
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      • kmarinouofm
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-26-09
        • 8437

        #213
        so what is the system play today
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        • peterpan19
          Restricted User
          • 11-02-08
          • 3377

          #214
          kmarinouofm
          we cant publish the best bets or PT plays in here...since you have to pay for the software...$50 so not really much...I dont know if I can post the plays 1 min after the game started, I first have to speak with formulawiz

          but the PR plays that I follow using their free PR system are:
          OAK, HOU, WAS, CWS and SF
          and using their free run system play is:
          PIT
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          • Xpertcapper
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 04-14-09
            • 621

            #215
            Im a little confused peter. For a PT play you use option 7 correct? Not option 1
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            • peterpan19
              Restricted User
              • 11-02-08
              • 3377

              #216
              PT...main screen option 9 and after that option 7...plays are over 65%...ok ?
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              • Xpertcapper
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 04-14-09
                • 621

                #217
                thanks now does it matter if you use the option for 30 days or 99 days for stats? I noticed the pt plays are different with 30 or 99 days
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                • CashMoney
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-07-08
                  • 1982

                  #218
                  Originally posted by Xpertcapper
                  thanks now does it matter if you use the option for 30 days or 99 days for stats? I noticed the pt plays are different with 30 or 99 days
                  I spoke to sportends. They said the best success rate is to always use 30 days.
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                  • Xpertcapper
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 04-14-09
                    • 621

                    #219
                    thanks, so use 30 days and use option 9 then 7 for the best pt plays then.
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                    • CashMoney
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-07-08
                      • 1982

                      #220
                      Originally posted by Xpertcapper
                      thanks, so use 30 days and use option 9 then 7 for the best pt plays then.
                      Correct...
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                      • Nick6570
                        SBR High Roller
                        • 04-15-09
                        • 163

                        #221
                        Thanks for the clarification on Unit i understand it a lot better now.

                        For PT plays it says try to pick games where the team with 65% and better is +.500 and where the other team is -.500. You could add this filter is reduces the amount of games you play, but seems like it would also allow for more wins.

                        Peter:
                        This is just an idea for the PR system you are currently testing. Im not sure how many people have ran across the RPI rating on ESPN.com but its a very usefull tool for handicapping because it incorporates many aspects of baseball. I would say if you maybe want to narrow down the picks in your PR system the way you are now, and then filter it thorough the RPI rating. Say for example(Im just pulling these numbers out of the air) Cardinals vs. Brewers you run your PR system and it says to pick the Cardinals, but when you cross reference to the RPI rating the Brewers=.534 and the Cardinals=.520 then it would be a no play because Brewers are higher. Like i said this is just another filter that might weed out the loses and increase the win %. If you would like you can PM me your picks for the day and ill keep track of how the RPI effects the results and post them on here.
                        PS: I know the cardinals won today, so probably a bad example lol
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                        • mantorras77
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 05-08-09
                          • 378

                          #222
                          5/27 UPDATE: Winner on the Twins (-115)

                          Sportrends Software: 5/15 - 5/27

                          Best Bets (30 System) 16-7 70% +7.31 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                          Best Bets (99 System) 22-7 76% +13.56 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                          PT Bets (30 System) 21-8 72% +11.87 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                          PT Bets (99 System) ***Coming Soon***

                          GRAND TOTAL of all systems combined are 27-9 75% +16.48 UNITS !!!!

                          also, take my theory of going against all the teams the system picks that are higher than -175 and you can add to that grand total an additional 2.16 UNITS!!
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                          • mantorras77
                            SBR Sharp
                            • 05-08-09
                            • 378

                            #223
                            Pythagorem Theorem System

                            There seems to be confusion on how to properly select games using the Pythagorem Theorem System.

                            This is how Sportrends explained to do it:

                            "PT compare PT plays on main screen otion 1 pick winners to those plays generated by PT plays found under update then click on option #7. Dont pay attention to .500 teams. We suggest for PT plays go back to 5/1 and Best Bets 5/15 where we recommend you start."
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                            • kmarinouofm
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 8437

                              #224
                              ok so where do you buy this system?
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                              • Formulawiz
                                Restricted User
                                • 01-12-09
                                • 1589

                                #225
                                Originally posted by mantorras77
                                5/27 UPDATE: Winner on the Twins (-115)

                                Sportrends Software: 5/15 - 5/27

                                Best Bets (30 System) 16-7 70% +7.31 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                                Best Bets (99 System) 22-7 76% +13.56 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                                PT Bets (30 System) 21-8 72% +11.87 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                                PT Bets (99 System) ***Coming Soon***

                                GRAND TOTAL of all systems combined are 27-9 75% +16.48 UNITS !!!!

                                also, take my theory of going against all the teams the system picks that are higher than -175 and you can add to that grand total an additional 2.16 UNITS!!
                                Mantorras keep up the good work. We need more people like you and peter to come up with additional ideas as how to use the software and to keep accurate records. So far the software is holding up just fine as usual. Remember guys there will be some ugly days ahead but I am sure in the end we will make a nice profit. Last year I made well over +100 units.

                                One very important thing I would like to see with our win/loss records here. I never, never, never start making any wagers until 5/15, especially using sportrends software. There are just not enough stats especially when it comes to pitching and bullpen. Therefore I suggest our records should really start on 5/15 and anything prior to this date is meaningless and may confuse us.
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                                • CashMoney
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-07-08
                                  • 1982

                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by mantorras77
                                  There seems to be confusion on how to properly select games using the Pythagorem Theorem System.

                                  This is how Sportrends explained to do it:

                                  "PT compare PT plays on main screen otion 1 pick winners to those plays generated by PT plays found under update then click on option #7. Dont pay attention to .500 teams. We suggest for PT plays go back to 5/1 and Best Bets 5/15 where we recommend you start."
                                  I'm confused.....are they saying that a PT play should only be a PT play if the team appears on the pick winners screen and PT?

                                  I've been doing this anyway but have also been playing all PT plays as well.
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                                  • sailorman2439
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 05-28-09
                                    • 54

                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by mantorras77
                                    5/27 UPDATE: Winner on the Twins (-115)

                                    Sportrends Software: 5/15 - 5/27

                                    Best Bets (30 System) 16-7 70% +7.31 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                                    Best Bets (99 System) 22-7 76% +13.56 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                                    PT Bets (30 System) 21-8 72% +11.87 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                                    PT Bets (99 System) ***Coming Soon***

                                    GRAND TOTAL of all systems combined are 27-9 75% +16.48 UNITS !!!!

                                    also, take my theory of going against all the teams the system picks that are higher than -175 and you can add to that grand total an additional 2.16 UNITS!!
                                    With regard to the record of sportrends picks, I just have a quick question. I did my own backtesting of the Best Bets 99 system and got a record of 27-12 from 5/15-5/27. How is it that I have 10 more Best Bet (99 system) games? Is it because I didn't throw out the -175 or greater games or does it have to do with updating the stats?
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                                    • mantorras77
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 05-08-09
                                      • 378

                                      #228
                                      Originally posted by sailorman2439
                                      With regard to the record of sportrends picks, I just have a quick question. I did my own backtesting of the Best Bets 99 system and got a record of 27-12 from 5/15-5/27. How is it that I have 10 more Best Bet (99 system) games? Is it because I didn't throw out the -175 or greater games or does it have to do with updating the stats?
                                      exactly...I just checked my chart and there are 11 teams that were picked by the system but that were over -175
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                                      • peterpan19
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-02-08
                                        • 3377

                                        #229
                                        I think you forgot to exclude the -175 + games
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                                        • mantorras77
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 05-08-09
                                          • 378

                                          #230
                                          Originally posted by CashMoney
                                          I'm confused.....are they saying that a PT play should only be a PT play if the team appears on the pick winners screen and PT?

                                          I've been doing this anyway but have also been playing all PT plays as well.
                                          You got it right Cash! and....the team has to be at 65%+ and +.500 vs -.500 on the PT screen....they said to avoid games where the teams are at .500.

                                          Thats the beauty of the software....there are sooo many ways of doing things.
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                                          • peterpan19
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 11-02-08
                                            • 3377

                                            #231
                                            so is anyone playing the best bet today guys ?
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                                            • mantorras77
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 05-08-09
                                              • 378

                                              #232
                                              Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                              Mantorras keep up the good work. We need more people like you and peter to come up with additional ideas as how to use the software and to keep accurate records. So far the software is holding up just fine as usual. Remember guys there will be some ugly days ahead but I am sure in the end we will make a nice profit. Last year I made well over +100 units.

                                              One very important thing I would like to see with our win/loss records here. I never, never, never start making any wagers until 5/15, especially using sportrends software. There are just not enough stats especially when it comes to pitching and bullpen. Therefore I suggest our records should really start on 5/15 and anything prior to this date is meaningless and may confuse us.
                                              WIZ as you can clearly see on the record chart that all those stats are based on starting on 5/15.
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                                              • CashMoney
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-07-08
                                                • 1982

                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                so is anyone playing the best bet today guys ?
                                                Still undecided on whether or not to pull the trigger. I have 3 possible plays from the software today but I may just sit today out.
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                                                • mantorras77
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 05-08-09
                                                  • 378

                                                  #234
                                                  Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                  so is anyone playing the best bet today guys ?
                                                  y go against the system?
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                                                  • mantorras77
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 05-08-09
                                                    • 378

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by peterpan19
                                                    so is anyone playing the best bet today guys ?

                                                    BB(30) is 2-0 on DOGS
                                                    BB(99) is 4-1 on DOGS
                                                    PT(30) is 5-0 on DOGS
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                                                    • mantorras77
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 05-08-09
                                                      • 378

                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by kmarinouofm
                                                      ok so where do you buy this system?
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                                                      • mantorras77
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 05-08-09
                                                        • 378

                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by mantorras77
                                                        5/27 UPDATE: Winner on the Twins (-115)

                                                        Sportrends Software: 5/15 - 5/27

                                                        Best Bets (30 System) 16-7 70% +7.31 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                                                        Best Bets (99 System) 22-7 76% +13.56 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                                                        PT Bets (30 System) 21-8 72% +11.87 UNITS (based on 1 unit bet per play)
                                                        PT Bets (99 System) ***Coming Soon***

                                                        GRAND TOTAL of all systems combined are 27-9 75% +16.48 UNITS !!!!

                                                        also, take my theory of going against all the teams the system picks that are higher than -175 and you can add to that grand total an additional 2.16 UNITS!!
                                                        5/28: only 1 total qualifying play for today from any of the 3 systems.
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                                                        • mantorras77
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 05-08-09
                                                          • 378

                                                          #238
                                                          FORMULAWIZ.....since you said you've been using thise software for years...do you still have the .DAT files for the previous years as I would like to back test these systems.
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                                                          • CashMoney
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-07-08
                                                            • 1982

                                                            #239
                                                            Originally posted by mantorras77
                                                            BB(30) is 2-0 on DOGS
                                                            BB(99) is 4-1 on DOGS
                                                            PT(30) is 5-0 on DOGS
                                                            I'm locked and loaded.
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                                                            • mantorras77
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 05-08-09
                                                              • 378

                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by CashMoney
                                                              I'm locked and loaded.
                                                              I chickened out and only wagered half of what I would normally wager.....
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                                                              • Cannaloop
                                                                SBR Rookie
                                                                • 05-28-09
                                                                • 31

                                                                #241
                                                                So is it really as simple as pressing "1" and betting for the "Best Bet's"? There was one BB today but 2 other picks, what should I do with those?

                                                                Oh and as a European I normally use decimals, when you say "higher than -175" do you mean higher as in a higher number (i.e. -180) or higher as in greater than (i.e. -140)? I'm guessing the first since you are after underdogs?

                                                                Mantorras spoke about comparing the picks with the theorem (press 9 then 7). Could someone clarify whats to compare?

                                                                Sorry about all the questions, its just that english isn't my mother tongue(I think thats the word for it) and some of you use really, to me, strange grammar so I'm not fully understanding.
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                                                                • Formulawiz
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                                  • 1589

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by mantorras77
                                                                  FORMULAWIZ.....since you said you've been using thise software for years...do you still have the .DAT files for the previous years as I would like to back test these systems.

                                                                  What I usually do after buying the software every year is not re-install the program and only update the stats. So the answer is No. What I should have done is save the pitching and team stats separately. Ill have to remember that for next year.
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                                                                  • Formulawiz
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 01-12-09
                                                                    • 1589

                                                                    #243
                                                                    Originally posted by Cannaloop
                                                                    So is it really as simple as pressing "1" and betting for the "Best Bet's"? There was one BB today but 2 other picks, what should I do with those?

                                                                    Oh and as a European I normally use decimals, when you say "higher than -175" do you mean higher as in a higher number (i.e. -180) or higher as in greater than (i.e. -140)? I'm guessing the first since you are after underdogs?

                                                                    Mantorras spoke about comparing the picks with the theorem (press 9 then 7). Could someone clarify whats to compare?

                                                                    Sorry about all the questions, its just that english isn't my mother tongue(I think thats the word for it) and some of you use really, to me, strange grammar so I'm not fully understanding.

                                                                    As Mantorras indicated, you are on the main page of the software. Click on 9 which takes you to the update screen. Now click on 7 which is the pythag Theorm. It says look for a team that has a + .500 record Vs a - .500 team which is 65% or greater. Thats it and use 30 days which is the default value and dont play a Fav over -175.
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                                                                    • Formulawiz
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 01-12-09
                                                                      • 1589

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Originally posted by sailorman2439
                                                                      With regard to the record of sportrends picks, I just have a quick question. I did my own backtesting of the Best Bets 99 system and got a record of 27-12 from 5/15-5/27. How is it that I have 10 more Best Bet (99 system) games? Is it because I didn't throw out the -175 or greater games or does it have to do with updating the stats?
                                                                      I assume your referring to take opposite plays generated by the PT system and not the BB system.
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                                                                      • erdo
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 03-04-09
                                                                        • 7

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Doesn't the amount of innings mr.swarzak has had make this a no play today???

                                                                        E.
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