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  • HoulihansTX
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-12-09
    • 30566

    #771
    Originally posted by HoulihansTX
    BPR No Plays, Since May 3rd (57-48) Failed to track Units, as I did not copy down the ML's.
    Update

    No Plays, including all filters. Since May 3rd (70-65)

    I copied down the reasons for No Play. Although I do not track units.
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    • Small Timer
      SBR Sharp
      • 01-12-11
      • 389

      #772
      Good work everyone, let's keep it up
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      • peterpan19
        Restricted User
        • 11-02-08
        • 3377

        #773
        Originally posted by Mr.Carrot
        It takes about 1 hour daily fill the spreedsheet thats no prob, but find some filters or plays, it takes 4 or 5 hours. For example check L2 filter on home teams etc. There are many of scopes to checking. Please remember, data is for 3 weeks only. GL
        nice sheet, but I dont see the ML of the plays, thats important in baseball ?

        GL
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        • grilldog24
          SBR High Roller
          • 03-29-11
          • 193

          #774
          any moneyline plays today yet ?
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          • barts185
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 12-13-09
            • 815

            #775
            Originally posted by grilldog24
            any moneyline plays today yet ?

            See post 765.
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            • grilldog24
              SBR High Roller
              • 03-29-11
              • 193

              #776
              thanks for posting !
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              • Formulawiz
                Restricted User
                • 01-12-09
                • 1589

                #777
                Originally posted by peterpan19
                nice sheet, but I dont see the ML of the plays, thats important in baseball ?

                GL
                PeterPan, nice to hear from you again. I totally agree that the ML system performed well above any of the other systems and it continues to do so this year. Dont forget I started keeping the records on may 15th. As I stated, previously, prior to the 15th the ML system really kicked butt.
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                • Formulawiz
                  Restricted User
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 1589

                  #778
                  ML system went 2-0, +2 units
                  YTD 44-21, 16.85 units

                  Plays later today
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                  • rask7rask7
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 10-01-10
                    • 159

                    #779
                    Scientific Approach 07Jun11: WOW 3-0
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                    • Small Timer
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 01-12-11
                      • 389

                      #780
                      Nice night last night for the BPR and looks like I gotta pay more attention to the ML plays too!
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                      • Formulawiz
                        Restricted User
                        • 01-12-09
                        • 1589

                        #781
                        Todays ML plays. Must be < -140

                        SD, PIT, CHW?
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                        • ShivaBowl
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 03-09-10
                          • 5133

                          #782
                          Originally posted by Mr.Carrot
                          Guys, I havent wanted public it now If was just to analyze and I was wonder what do you think about it and how it can improve your systems. L2 - is current filter no play on team with 2 and more losses in a row and this filter is working great, its saved us money L2 + W2 is similar filter as L2, just it is together if play is on L2 and againts W2 together W2 - is current filter no play against team with 2 or more winners in a row. This filter doesnt work as well, this filter has stolen us 18 winners and saved 9 losses only -150 is current filter, no play if -150 under 1,8 is my personal filtr, no play if bullpen is under |1,8| You can find on the list "detail" detailed data and try found any other filters(home, dogs...) I tried use sweep filter but it is neutral filter. There are also total WL stats used diferent filters first - no filters applied SBR plays Al filters applied and my plays Just check it I dont want you must change anything in your current filters, just to let you know how it works and try find some new filters. You know, more heads can find better ways to win. I hope we can find some good working filters (or not) for the second half of the season GL and sorry for my EN
                          Sorry Mr. Carrot, I was under the impression, that you were having a problem posting the Excel spreadsheet. I must have missed read you.

                          Also, there is a major flaw with the BPR System; case in point,
                          BPR will take a loss yesterday with SEA, but SEA bullpen had nothing to do with it.
                          BOL

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                          • losemyloot
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 01-26-11
                            • 697

                            #783
                            Yesterdays PT Power Plays 6/7
                            MIN+118 L
                            PIT +102 W
                            CWS -101 W
                            SFG 1/2U n/p -135
                            Yesterday 2-1 +1.02 Units
                            Start Date 05/01
                            69-85 -9.80 Units


                            Todays PT Power Plays 6/8
                            MIN
                            LAD
                            ATL ½U
                            DET
                            KC
                            NYM
                            n/p if >-130

                            Filtered Out
                            HOU n/p L4
                            SEA n/p L2

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                            • ShivaBowl
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-09-10
                              • 5133

                              #784
                              losemyloot How is the >-130 filter working out?
                              Do you think it should be moved up to, np if >-150
                              Over the last week or two, this may have helped?
                              BOL
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                              • ShivaBowl
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 03-09-10
                                • 5133

                                #785
                                TPR system went 2-2 yesterday.
                                COL –142 L
                                STL –132 W
                                ARZ –127 L
                                CWS +118 W
                                Start Date 05/01
                                45-45 –1.12u

                                H/A system went 0-0 yesterday.
                                No Plays
                                Start Date 05/29
                                7-4 +0.45u

                                H/A Total Plays went 1-3 yesterday.
                                Two games, within 1 run of going Over Tl:
                                Start Date 06/01
                                10-7 +2.69u
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                                • ShivaBowl
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-09-10
                                  • 5133

                                  #786
                                  06/08/11
                                  TPR System Plays
                                  CLE 1.4
                                  STL 1.2
                                  CWS 1.1
                                  COL 1.2 no play COL, IP<-20
                                  ARZ 1.1 no play ARZ, L/2

                                  H/A System Plays
                                  No Plays

                                  H/A Total Plays
                                  CLE & MIN Over 8.5 –120
                                  PHI & LAD Over 7 –125
                                  MLW & NYM Over 9 +100
                                  LAA & TAM Over 6.5 -120
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                                  • BrewMaster
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-03-10
                                    • 555

                                    #787
                                    07Jun11 Result: 3-0
                                    Record Official Start 15May11: 42-42, -0.03 units


                                    Scientific Approach 08Jun11:


                                    BOS, -167
                                    TOR, -244
                                    TB, -113

                                    Filtered (CLE, MLW)
                                    System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck.
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                                    • HoulihansTX
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 02-12-09
                                      • 30566

                                      #788
                                      Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                      Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                      Overall

                                      (66-56) +6.65Units


                                      ___________________
                                      Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                      June 7

                                      Bullpen Projection System

                                      Seattle 8.62 L (-130)
                                      Cincy 4.92 (No Play)
                                      Stl 4.76 W (-130)
                                      Toronto 4.12 W (-105)
                                      San Diego 3.57 W (+135)
                                      Detroit 3.28 W (+115)
                                      Zona 2.60
                                      L (-125)
                                      March 26 to May 14
                                      Overall
                                      (68-52) +22.56 Units

                                      Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                      Overall

                                      (70-58) +8.6Units
                                      ___________________
                                      Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                      June 8
                                      Bullpen Projection System

                                      Cincy 8.60
                                      San Diego 5.06
                                      Wash 3.62
                                      Atl 3.37
                                      Tampa 2.73
                                      Detroit 2.44
                                      Stl 1.92
                                      Toronto 1.65
                                      Dodgers 1.48
                                      Cleveland 1.09

                                      Zona np L2
                                      Yanks np(Boston W2)
                                      Brew np(Mets W2)
                                      Seattle np(CWS W2)
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                                      • losemyloot
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 01-26-11
                                        • 697

                                        #789
                                        Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                        losemyloot How is the >-130 filter working out?
                                        Do you think it should be moved up to, np if >-150
                                        Over the last week or two, this may have helped?
                                        BOL
                                        I've been tracking a lot of information for the PT Power plays (started on May 18th) but I haven't been tracking the number of units W/L of filtered plays. I assumed that since Sportstrends recommends having a -130 filter on these plays that they have tested this number and found it successful.

                                        I have been tracking the PP differentials and the TP differentials for each game since May 8th. My thinking was the greater the PP differential the higher percentage we would be hitting on these plays. So far these are the results:

                                        PP diff 20-60 is 36-44 -6.265 units
                                        PP diff of 60.1 and greater is 13-24 -6.97 units

                                        Basically my hypothesis right now is crap but it is still a fairly small sample size since it is not even a full months worth of data. I think you would almost have to do this for a few months if not a year to get accurate data (if not longer).

                                        If you guys think I should stop tracking this let me know and I can track something else. I have been thinking about combining both the PT Power Plays and the PR Plays to come up with picks. Basically the two systems would be used to filter the plays of the other one. I was thinking that if it is a play in one of the systems it has to have the same lean in the other system (not necessarily be a pick in the other system just have the same lean on a game) I just found it odd that these two systems are displayed on the same page and contradict each other often. I am assuming that in situations where they do agree or at least slightly agree these might be good plays.

                                        I can think of tons of things to be tracking with these systems but I just don't have the time to track all of it. If I add anything to track I'll have to stop tracking something else just because of time restraints.

                                        Sorry for the long post fellas and good luck today!
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                                        • BrewMaster
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 12-03-10
                                          • 555

                                          #790
                                          Loot, I had a similar system with the SA system where I analyzed the magnitude of the number differential. It was mildly inconclusive.

                                          Earlier in the year I had a formula where I would use a multiplier for the top 3 systems at the time (SA, ML, BPR). I then used the percentage over .500 as the multiplier for each system. After inserting this into an algorithm, it would generate a "Power" value which I would use as the multiplier for my wager that day.

                                          I didn't track this too well but I think it worked in the short term. I made it to maximize profits off the top 3 systems by increasing units on winners and decreasing units on losers.

                                          I'll PM you guys the information.
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                                          • Formulawiz
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 01-12-09
                                            • 1589

                                            #791
                                            ML system went 1-1, 0.0 units
                                            YTD 45-22, 16.85 units

                                            Plays later today
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                                            • Formulawiz
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 01-12-09
                                              • 1589

                                              #792
                                              Todays ML plays must be < -140

                                              HOU, COL, TOR?
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                                              • losemyloot
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-26-11
                                                • 697

                                                #793
                                                Yesterdays PT Power Plays 6/8
                                                MIN +145 W
                                                LAD +169 L
                                                ATL ½U -101 W
                                                DET +165 L
                                                KC -119 L
                                                NYM +148 L
                                                Yesterday 2-4 -2.24 Units
                                                Start Date 05/01
                                                71-89 -12.04 Units


                                                Todays PT Power Plays 6/9
                                                PIT
                                                MIN
                                                CIN 1/2
                                                n/p if >-130

                                                Filtered Out
                                                KC n/p L2
                                                FLA n/p L7

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                                                • ShivaBowl
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                  • 5133

                                                  #794
                                                  TPR system went 0-3 yesterday.
                                                  CLE –161 L
                                                  STL –131 L
                                                  CWS –155 L
                                                  Start Date 05/01
                                                  45-48 –5.59u

                                                  H/A system went 0-0 yesterday.
                                                  No Plays
                                                  Start Date 05/29
                                                  7-4 +0.45u

                                                  H/A Total Plays went 2-2 yesterday.
                                                  Start Date 06/01.
                                                  11-9 +2.24u
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                                                  • ShivaBowl
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-09-10
                                                    • 5133

                                                    #795
                                                    06/09/11

                                                    TPR System Plays
                                                    TEX 2.0
                                                    CIN 1.0
                                                    DET no play >-175
                                                    STL no play IP<-20
                                                    ARZ no play L/3

                                                    H/A System Plays
                                                    ATL
                                                    SDP
                                                    NYY no play L/2

                                                    H/A Total Plays
                                                    NYY & BOS Over 8 –120
                                                    FLA & ATL Over 7.5 –105
                                                    CWS & OAK Over 7.5 –120
                                                    SDP & WAS Over 6.5 for a 1/2U -115
                                                    Last edited by ShivaBowl; 06-09-11, 09:07 AM.
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                                                    • BrewMaster
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-03-10
                                                      • 555

                                                      #796
                                                      08Jun11 Result: 3-0 (8-1 past 3 nights)
                                                      Record Official Start 15May11: 45-42, +3.47 units


                                                      Scientific Approach 09Jun11:


                                                      BOS, -121
                                                      TOR, -196
                                                      CIN, -324
                                                      ATL, -249

                                                      Filtered (PHI, HOU, COL)
                                                      System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck.
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                                                      • HoulihansTX
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 02-12-09
                                                        • 30566

                                                        #797
                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                        Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                        Overall

                                                        (70-58) +8.6Units


                                                        ___________________
                                                        Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                        June 8

                                                        Bullpen Projection System

                                                        Cincy 8.60 L (-135)
                                                        San Diego 5.06L (+100)
                                                        Wash 3.62 L (+160)
                                                        Atl 3.37 W (+105)
                                                        Tampa 2.73 W (+125)
                                                        Detroit 2.44 L (+160)
                                                        Stl 1.92 L (-135)
                                                        Toronto 1.65 W (+105)
                                                        Dodgers 1.48 L (+110)
                                                        Cleveland 1.09 (No Play >-150)
                                                        March 26 to May 14
                                                        Overall
                                                        (68-52) +22.56 Units

                                                        Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                        Overall

                                                        (73-64) +5.25Units
                                                        ___________________
                                                        Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                        June 9
                                                        Bullpen Projection System

                                                        Cincy 5.03
                                                        Atl 4.99
                                                        Houston 3.72
                                                        Philly 3.61
                                                        Dodgers 2.96

                                                        Zona np L2
                                                        Yanks np L2
                                                        Brew Crew np >-150
                                                        Oakland np L2
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                                                        • ShivaBowl
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 03-09-10
                                                          • 5133

                                                          #798
                                                          MLB 2010 Premium Internet Service Plays 58 - 19 ( + 38.25 Units )
                                                          Complimentary Selection for 6/9/2011

                                                          Take Boston W/Beckett over NY Yankees W/Sabathia NO PLAY if BOS < +110

                                                          BOL
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                                                          • Small Timer
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 01-12-11
                                                            • 389

                                                            #799
                                                            Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                            06/09/11

                                                            H/A Total Plays
                                                            NYY & BOS Over 8 –120
                                                            FLA & ATL Over 7.5 –105
                                                            CWS & OAK Over 7.5 –120
                                                            SDP & WAS Over 6.5 for a 1/2U -115
                                                            Like the totals here, hopefully has a big day.
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                                                            • staf
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-11-07
                                                              • 2521

                                                              #800
                                                              Originally posted by losemyloot
                                                              Yesterdays PT Power Plays 6/8
                                                              MIN +145 W
                                                              LAD +169 L
                                                              ATL ½U -101 W
                                                              DET +165 L
                                                              KC -119 L
                                                              NYM +148 L
                                                              Yesterday 2-4 -2.24 Units
                                                              Start Date 05/01
                                                              71-89 -12.04 Units


                                                              Todays PT Power Plays 6/9
                                                              PIT
                                                              MIN
                                                              CIN 1/2
                                                              n/p if >-130

                                                              Filtered Out
                                                              KC n/p L2
                                                              FLA n/p L7

                                                              Something I've noticed, if the team predicted by the pt power plays has a pr-runs at least 2 less than their opponent it's 12-23 -9.83 since 5-12. I've attached a spreadsheet with the results.
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                                                              • ShivaBowl
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-09-10
                                                                • 5133

                                                                #801
                                                                Originally posted by Small Timer
                                                                Like the totals here, hopefully has a big day.

                                                                Thanks ST, I was knocking the cover off these plays, until I started posting them? But isn’t that always the way it gos.
                                                                BOL
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                                                                • ShivaBowl
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 03-09-10
                                                                  • 5133

                                                                  #802
                                                                  Originally posted by staf
                                                                  Something I've noticed, if the team predicted by the pt power plays has a pr-runs at least 2 less than their opponent it's 12-23 -9.83 since 5-12. I've attached a spreadsheet with the results.
                                                                  Nice Work Staf, so your saying fade Pit and play on ARZ today?
                                                                  CIN? are you using a 2 run overlay or just 2 runs?
                                                                  Thanks
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                                                                  • BrewMaster
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 12-03-10
                                                                    • 555

                                                                    #803
                                                                    Originally posted by staf
                                                                    Something I've noticed, if the team predicted by the pt power plays has a pr-runs at least 2 less than their opponent it's 12-23 -9.83 since 5-12. I've attached a spreadsheet with the results.
                                                                    Fantastic... we need more people to be doing this type of analysis. I have the same question as Shiva though. Fade Pittsburgh because of +5... fade SF because of +2. ??
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                                                                    • staf
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-11-07
                                                                      • 2521

                                                                      #804
                                                                      Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                                      Nice Work Staf, so your saying fade Pit and play on ARZ today?
                                                                      CIN? are you using a 2 run overlay or just 2 runs?
                                                                      Thanks
                                                                      If a team is expected to lose by 2 or more runs.
                                                                      Originally posted by BrewMaster
                                                                      Fantastic... we need more people to be doing this type of analysis. I have the same question as Shiva though. Fade Pittsburgh because of +5... fade SF because of +2. ??
                                                                      Basically I'm saying this is something worth tracking as a possible filter to add to the pt power plays.

                                                                      Here's what I'm doing:

                                                                      Today, Pittsburgh is a PT Power Play and is expected to give up 5 runs.
                                                                      Their opponent is expected to give up 0 runs, so Pittsburgh is expected to lose by 5 runs.

                                                                      I haven't tracked how a difference of only 1 would do as the site says to use a difference of 2 or more.

                                                                      Another thing I've been tracking since 5-12 is, the teams expected to lose by 2 or more runs are 61-47 +16.45 units. Passing on the 35 games agreeing with the PT Power Plays would improve it to 49-24 +26.28 units.

                                                                      It's too bad Sportrends doesn't have a database of these tables so we could properly back-test them.
                                                                      Last edited by staf; 06-09-11, 01:49 PM.
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                                                                      • grilldog24
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 03-29-11
                                                                        • 193

                                                                        #805
                                                                        money line plays up yet ?
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