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  • Formulawiz
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    • 01-12-09
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    #2241
    Originally posted by ShivaBowl
    Pitching and Team H/A Power Rating Plays for 8/19/2010
    CIN 773
    LAD 418
    ATL 374
    OAK 174
    PHI 136
    FLA 128

    IP/, W/L , > -175,
    H/A-TP-DIF > 100
    No Negative H/A-PP-DIF On Pitcher

    OAK W/2 TB W/5
    Shiva, Are you coming up with new filters for the BB system by using the H/A-PP-DIF. As far as pitcher innings, I feel as long as the pitcher you select is > 20 innings is fine even if the opposing pitcher does not.
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    • HoulihansTX
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      #2242
      Originally posted by ShivaBowl
      OK TX; thanks for keeping it simple, I will look up the value numbers myself. I know the BPR System is on the bullpen, but don't you need > +20 on the starting pitcher? EX; Mets, are going to bet on the Mets with Misch because its a BPR play? Im just trying to keep it simplistic, for all are simple systems. THANKS
      Nope. I only play a choice few. If you guys would like for me to make it clear what I'm playing I will do so. But I still feel the Mets are a play, since the play is on the bully.

      If you strongly disagree, I will be more than happy to make clear which pitchers have not played 20IP.
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      • HoulihansTX
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        #2243
        Originally posted by Odessa
        How we make filtering process working?
        Dont bet Against a team on a 2 game win streak.

        Dont bet On teams with a 2 game loss streak.
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        • ShivaBowl
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          • 03-09-10
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          #2244
          Originally posted by HoulihansTX
          Nope. I only play a choice few. If you guys would like for me to make it clear what I'm playing I will do so. But I still feel the Mets are a play, since the play is on the bully. If you strongly disagree, I will be more than happy to make clear which pitchers have not played 20IP.
          IP...And the value numbers, if you have the time.

          Thanks for your hard work.
          GL
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          • ShivaBowl
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            • 03-09-10
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            #2245
            Originally posted by Formulawiz
            Shiva, Are you coming up with new filters for the BB system by using the H/A-PP-DIF. As far as pitcher innings, I feel as long as the pitcher you select is > 20 innings is fine even if the opposing pitcher does not.
            Yes I have.
            Wiz, could you please takeover TPR?
            I will work on Pitching and Team H/A Power Rating ,
            for the time being.

            thanks


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            • ShivaBowl
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              • 03-09-10
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              #2246
              I have been to busy latey for Sportrends Premium Internet Service, so I thought I would let them cool of a little and get back with them later, smart right? Look At The @##@# run they have been on
              MLB 2010 Premium Internet Service 146 - 88 ( + 28.9 Units ) 08/17
              MLB 2009 Premium Internet Service 152 - 89 ( + 34.55 Units )
              08/18
              MLB 2009 Premium Internet Service 156 - 90 ( + 38.65 Units ) 08/19
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              • ShivaBowl
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                #2247
                Pitching and Team H/A Power Rating Plays for 8/19/2010
                UpDate 08/20
                CIN 773 WIN -136
                LAD 418 WIN -137
                ATL 374 No Play > -175
                MIN 329 LOSS -156
                OAK 174 WIN -137
                PHI 136 No Play > - 175
                FLA 128 WIN -107
                4-1 +244

                Filter IP > 20, W/L , > -175,
                Filter H/A-TP-DIF > 100 I may change this to a higher # to cut down on the # of plays.
                Filter, No Negative H/A-PP-DIF # On Pitcher This may Change
                EX; No Play if Negative H/A-PP-DIF # On Pitcher, NYY with Hughes -10.1
                Summarize, I will be working with the H/A-PP-DIF numbers and H/A-TP-DIF #rs to put out the best plays.

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                • Formulawiz
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                  • 01-12-09
                  • 1589

                  #2248
                  Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                  Yes I have.
                  Wiz, could you please takeover TPR? I will work on Pitching and Team H/A Power Rating ,
                  for the time being.

                  thanks


                  Yes I can starting tomorrow.
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                  • HoulihansTX
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                    #2249
                    Originally posted by HoulihansTX

                    8/19 BPR - Bullpen Projected Runs


                    When using our BPR System in any given matchup, a play on the home team is generated when the value is under 1, indicating the home teams bullpen will be expected to give up less runs then their opponents bullpen. A play on the road team is warranted when the value of home team is over 1, indicating the home teams bullpen will be expected to give up more runs.

                    NYY
                    Padres
                    Florida
                    Mets
                    Kansas City
                    Minny
                    Colorado

                    As usual make sure win/loss streaks are filtered, and the ML doesnt exceed -175.
                    I'm playing Kansas City for sure.
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                    • ShivaBowl
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                      • 03-09-10
                      • 5133

                      #2250
                      Major League Baseball: Pitching and Team H/A Power Ratings
                      You would be hard pressed to find any successful professional handicapper who does not have a definable bankroll, a season game plan to achieve profits and a clear understanding of finding an edge and getting value. To get an edge you need to develop a system or method for guiding you. Generally, Power Ratings is one of many tools that can provide such insight. In essence you create your own line by manipulating data so you can find a game in which your methods indicate that there is an edge to one side or another.
                      Finding a valid method that meets your style takes trial and error. As with most statistical methods you will need a large enough sampling of games to create a valid projection. Some pitching-only based systems may work well as early as May when a pitcher has completed 15 or more starts.

                      The Home/Away Pitcher and Team Power Ratings provide here is a season to date snap shot of pitcher performance and how the team supports him. Used with current pitcher form and team streaks it can lay the foundation for developing an eye for an edge.

                      Summarize, I will be working with the H/A-PP-DIF numbers and H/A-TP-DIF numbers to put out the best plays.

                      Pitching and Team H/A Power Rating Plays for 8/19/2010
                      UpDate 08/20
                      CIN 773 WIN -136
                      LAD 418 WIN -137
                      ATL 374 No Play > -175
                      MIN 329 LOSS -156
                      OAK 174 WIN -137
                      PHI 136 No Play > - 175
                      FLA 128 WIN -107
                      4-1 +244

                      Filter IP > 20, W/L , > -175,
                      Filter H/A-TP-DIF > 100 I may change this to a higher # to cut down on the # of plays.
                      Filter, No Negative H/A-PP-DIF # On Pitcher This may Change
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                      • HoulihansTX
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                        #2251
                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                        8/19 BPR - Bullpen Projected Runs

                        NYY (-240) No Play
                        Padres (-170) W
                        Florida (-105) W
                        Mets (+120) L
                        Kansas City (-110) L
                        Minny (-155) L
                        Colorado
                        (+130) L
                        8/19 (2-3) -2.65Units
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                        • Formulawiz
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                          #2252
                          Todays TPR plays using existing filters, favorites and Dogs +140 or <
                          MIL, NYY, MIN
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                          • HoulihansTX
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                            #2253
                            8/20 BPR - Bullpen Projected Runs

                            Washington
                            Cleveland
                            Baltimore
                            Florida
                            Minny
                            Kansas City
                            Giants


                            As usual make sure win/loss streaks are filtered, and the ML doesnt exceed -175.
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                            • HoulihansTX
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                              #2254
                              I already played Florida
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                              • ShivaBowl
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                                • 03-09-10
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                                #2255
                                Pitching and Team H/A Power Rating Plays for 8/20/2010
                                PHI.........171.5, 1257.7
                                CWS.......176.9, 863.1
                                MLW.......78.1, 440.9
                                FLA.........55.0, 234.7
                                BOS.........34.1, 177.1
                                SFG..........4.8, 320.2

                                Filter IP > 20, W/L , No Play if >-175
                                Filter H/A-TP-DIF > 100
                                Filter Drop Outs
                                TEX L/4, CHC L/4, CLE < 100, NYY <100, ARZ L/4, CIN <100, PIT L/3
                                I would stay on CIN hot team + H/A-PP + 33.4

                                Cubs have given Dempster tons of run support, lately.
                                Comp, Take Florida W/Sanchez over Houston W/Happ NO PLAY if < -135 or > -175
                                Comp Since A.S. break,19-7
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                                • MadTiger
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                                  • 04-19-09
                                  • 2724

                                  #2256
                                  Thanks for the tips.
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                                  • ShivaBowl
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                                    • 03-09-10
                                    • 5133

                                    #2257
                                    Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                    8/20 BPR - Bullpen Projected Runs
                                    Washington
                                    Cleveland
                                    Baltimore
                                    Florida
                                    Minny
                                    Kansas City
                                    Giants
                                    As usual make sure win/loss streaks are filtered, and the ML doesnt exceed -175.


                                    Washington IP < 20 ?
                                    SDP ? 3.94
                                    CIN ? 7.18

                                    CIN, value numbers, for a BPR play, are the strongest that I have seen, in the last month.

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                                    • HoulihansTX
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                                      #2258
                                      Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                      Washington IP < 20 ? SDP ? CIN ?
                                      Cincy is a play upon Further review

                                      San Diego is not a play, as Milwaukee is on a winning streak.

                                      *Washington's Pitcher has not played 20IP. If you are to play Washington, proceed with caution.*

                                      8/20 BPR - Bullpen Projected Runs

                                      *Washington*
                                      Cleveland
                                      Baltimore
                                      Florida
                                      Minny
                                      Kansas City
                                      Giants

                                      Cincy
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                                      • Formulawiz
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                                        • 1589

                                        #2259
                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                        Cincy is a play upon Further review

                                        San Diego is not a play, as Milwaukee is on a winning streak.

                                        *Washington's Pitcher has not played 20IP. If you are to play Washington, proceed with caution.*

                                        8/20 BPR - Bullpen Projected Runs

                                        *Washington*
                                        Cleveland
                                        Baltimore
                                        Florida
                                        Minny
                                        Kansas City
                                        Giants
                                        Cincy
                                        WAS is such a prohibitive dog and the chance of winning is slim to none. At this price of +330, its a good idea to wager a small amount your willing to lose.
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                                        • ShivaBowl
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                                          • 03-09-10
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                                          #2260
                                          Originally Posted by HoulihansTX San Diego is not a play, as Milwaukee is on a winning streak.

                                          Yes I know, but what do think about this Filter? S/D won 5 MLW won 2 + MLW at home.
                                          As far as I'm concerned its a wash, I have MLW as a play for H/A.
                                          What do you think.
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                                          • ShivaBowl
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                                            • 03-09-10
                                            • 5133

                                            #2261
                                            Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                            Todays TPR plays using existing filters, favorites and Dogs +140 or < MIL, NYY, MIN
                                            NYY 2.3
                                            MIN 1.3
                                            MIL 1.0

                                            Wiz and TX; could we start posting the numbers, along with the plays?
                                            It would be a big help.
                                            Thanks
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                                            • HoulihansTX
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                                              #2262
                                              Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                              Originally Posted by HoulihansTX San Diego is not a play, as Milwaukee is on a winning streak. Yes I know, but what do think about this Filter? S/D won 5 MLW won 2 + MLW at home. As far as I'm concerned its a wash, I have MLW as a play for H/A. What do you think.
                                              So you have a modified system? I like it!

                                              Lets run with it. I will start posting the number to go with the plays, but not today. I have a road trip that starts in 2 minutes. So you guys have a great day. If you want to post the updated form of the BPR system. Feel free. GL
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                                              • ShivaBowl
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                                                • 03-09-10
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                                                #2263
                                                Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                WAS is such a prohibitive dog and the chance of winning is slim to none. At this price of +330, its a good idea to wager a small amount your willing to lose.
                                                What do you or TX; think about the NYY and SEA game. The line -150 is begging you to bet, NYY?
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                                                • HoulihansTX
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                                                  #2264
                                                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                  Cincy is a play upon Further review

                                                  San Diego is not a play, as Milwaukee is on a winning streak.

                                                  *
                                                  Washington's Pitcher has not played 20IP. If you are to play Washington, proceed with caution.*


                                                  8/20 BPR - Bullpen Projected Runs

                                                  *Washington* (+300) L
                                                  Cleveland (+130) L
                                                  Baltimore (+175) L
                                                  Florida (-175) W
                                                  Minny (-130) W
                                                  Kansas City Postponed
                                                  Giants
                                                  (+140) W
                                                  Cincy (-110) W
                                                  8/20 (4-3) *1.4Units
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                                                  • Formulawiz
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                                                    #2265
                                                    8/20 TPR system went 2-1, +.50 units

                                                    Plays later today
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                                                    • Formulawiz
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                                                      #2266
                                                      Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                      8/20 (4-3) *1.4Units
                                                      Houlihan, I dont think you can count WAS which was a prohibitive dog as losing -1 units. No one would wager the same amount on that game as they would on the other games. I would count the loss but for for fairness I would count it as losing -.5 units at best.
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                                                      • Formulawiz
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                                                        #2267
                                                        Todays TPR plays FLA, MIL
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                                                        • HoulihansTX
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                                                          #2268
                                                          Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                          Houlihan, I dont think you can count WAS which was a prohibitive dog as losing -1 units. No one would wager the same amount on that game as they would on the other games. I would count the loss but for for fairness I would count it as losing -.5 units at best.
                                                          A loss is a loss. The only play in that game was Washington +1.5, but the system recommends ML's.

                                                          If it won we would be talking about how great a call that was. Besides I'm not going to change how I grade plays after the game ends. Things like that would have to be identified B4 games go off.

                                                          The system has been doing great anyway. I see more winners today.
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                                                          • HoulihansTX
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                                                            #2269

                                                            8/21 BPR - Bullpen Projected Runs

                                                            (BPR measurement) If the team is away I will not be able to give their measurement, since only the Home team measurement is listed.


                                                            ATL
                                                            Minny (-1.42)
                                                            Balty (-2.04)
                                                            Wash
                                                            Mets

                                                            Cleveland
                                                            Florida
                                                            (-4.88)
                                                            Kansas City (-3.66)
                                                            Toronto
                                                            San Fran


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                                                            • Formulawiz
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                                                              #2270
                                                              Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                              8/21 BPR - Bullpen Projected Runs

                                                              (BPR measurement) If the team is away I will not be able to give their measurement, since only the Home team measurement is listed.


                                                              ATL
                                                              Minny (-1.42)
                                                              Balty (-2.04)
                                                              Wash
                                                              Mets
                                                              Cleveland
                                                              Florida (-4.88)
                                                              Kansas City (-3.66)
                                                              Toronto
                                                              San Fran

                                                              The Road team has a positive measurement so I am not sure what you mean. Also Minny is a fav over -175.
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                                                              • HoulihansTX
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                                                                #2271
                                                                Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                                The Road team has a positive measurement so I am not sure what you mean. Also Minny is a fav over -175.
                                                                Only the home teams measurement is listed though.

                                                                If I listed the Road teams measurement I would have to assume that it is the reciprocal of the Home teams number. I would love to do that, but I would only be assuming, and that is unfair to sportrends.

                                                                If you asked sportrends how I should list it, then I would be more than happy to do as they recommend.

                                                                About Minny: That number can change. when grading plays it will be listed as a no play if the number stays high.
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                                                                • Formulawiz
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                                                                  #2272
                                                                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                  Only the home teams measurement is listed though.

                                                                  If I listed the Road teams measurement I would have to assume that it is the reciprocal of the Home teams number. I would love to do that, but I would only be assuming, and that is unfair to sportrends.

                                                                  If you asked sportrends how I should list it, then I would be more than happy to do as they recommend.

                                                                  About Minny: That number can change. when grading plays it will be listed as a no play if the number stays high.
                                                                  It was my understanding in speaking with sportrends quite a while ago that a negative value is the number of runs the home team is expected to win by whereas a positive value is the number of runs the home team is expected to lose by. This system deals with runs rather then a power rating or proj ML.
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                                                                  • ShivaBowl
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                                                                    #2273
                                                                    Pitching and Team H/A Power Plays for 8/21/2010
                                                                    TEX ,______191____1065 No Play >-175
                                                                    WAS,_______97____734 WIN
                                                                    ATL, ------44_____555 LOSS
                                                                    DET,_______21_____211 WIN
                                                                    SFG,________23_____143 LOSS
                                                                    8-3 +421

                                                                    Drop Outs SEA, LAA, PIT, BOS, SDP, FLA, COL, OAK, LAD,


                                                                    Take Atlanta W/Hanson over Chi Cubs W/Gorzelanny NO PLAY if < -155 or > -175

                                                                    Pitching and Team H/A Power Rating Plays for 8/20/2010
                                                                    PHI.........171.5, 1257.7 WIN N/P >175
                                                                    CWS.......176.9, 863.1 N/P
                                                                    MLW.......78.1, 440.9 WIN
                                                                    FLA.........55.0, 234.7 WIN N/P >175
                                                                    BOS.........34.1, 177.1 LOSS N/P >175
                                                                    SFG..........4.8, 320.2
                                                                    WIN
                                                                    6-1 +479
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                                                                    • ShivaBowl
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                                                                      #2274
                                                                      Originally posted by formulawiz
                                                                      todays tpr plays fla, mil
                                                                      TEX?
                                                                      Min ?
                                                                      Nyy ?

                                                                      We don't make up the lines, so we should post all the plays right?
                                                                      Just take a look at FLA yesterday I got in at -150
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                                                                      • Formulawiz
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                                                                        #2275
                                                                        Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                                        TEX?
                                                                        Min ?
                                                                        Nyy ?

                                                                        We don't make up the lines, so we should post all the plays right?
                                                                        Just take a look at FLA yesterday I got in at -150
                                                                        You might have a play on MIN but the others are way out.
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