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  • ledjend
    Restricted User
    • 10-14-14
    • 1111

    #386
    YESTERDAY 8/16

    Flat Betting
    (Entered day 102-66, -17.87 u)

    - NYM at -167 - Loss
    - Tor +1.5 at -210 - Win
    - Sea +1.5 at -190 - Win
    - Sea +1.5 at -190 - Win
    - Bal at -165 - Win
    - Tex +1.5 at -180 - Win


    5-1, +3.33 u on day

    Year to date only -199 lines and below - 76-47, +1.76 u
    Year to date only -200 lines and above - 31-20, -16.3 u

    Year to date combined - 107-67, -14.54 u



    Chase
    (Entered day 101-3, +47.5 u)

    - NYM B bet - Loss
    - Tor B bet - Win
    - Sea B bet - Win
    - Sea C bet (vs Bos) - Win
    - Bal A bet - Win
    - Tex A bet (vs TB) - Win


    Year to date - 106-3, +52.5 u


    Important Note:
    As of 7/23, lines of -200 or greater I have not been flat betting - but I continue to keep records for both: 1) for those of you who still are, and 2) to see whether that decision will turn out to be profitable or not.
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    • ledjend
      Restricted User
      • 10-14-14
      • 1111

      #387
      A little more than a month to go and right on pace for another +100 unit season.

      My applause to those of you who have weathered the storm with me. It took brass balls to hang in there and you deserve all the credit in the world.

      As for those of you who decided to jump ship, I honestly can't blame you. These last 2 weeks have been downright torture. Even our wins somehow feel like losses. So don't beat yourself up if you bailed. It's completely understandable.

      Anyway, we've basically got 5 weeks left - and tomorrow begins one of them. This is shit or get off the pot time. So if you're gonna be in, make sure you're in all the way. Otherwise, wait til next year.
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      • bryanoens
        SBR High Roller
        • 09-28-12
        • 224

        #388
        It's been a crazy few weeks but the end result has been great. Let's hope for less stress in the coming weeks.
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        • sportsbetter21
          SBR Sharp
          • 12-30-14
          • 266

          #389
          Way to be consistent
          Originally posted by ledjend
          A little more than a month to go and right on pace for another +100 unit season.

          My applause to those of you who have weathered the storm with me. It took brass balls to hang in there and you deserve all the credit in the world.

          As for those of you who decided to jump ship, I honestly can't blame you. These last 2 weeks have been downright torture. Even our wins somehow feel like losses. So don't beat yourself up if you bailed. It's completely understandable.

          Anyway, we've basically got 5 weeks left - and tomorrow begins one of them. This is shit or get off the pot time. So if you're gonna be in, make sure you're in all the way. Otherwise, wait til next year.
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          • keel44
            SBR MVP
            • 08-01-09
            • 3363

            #390
            You are on pace for your worst flat betting result by a wide margin. That is disappointing because it was really the more safe way to play.

            After seeing the chases in action, I would be in favor of chasing, but only for 0.5% of your bankroll at the time of each new chase. You have a lot of action with high juice.
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            • chief42
              SBR Sharp
              • 01-06-10
              • 315

              #391
              Originally posted by keel44
              You are on pace for your worst flat betting result by a wide margin. That is disappointing because it was really the more safe way to play.

              After seeing the chases in action, I would be in favor of chasing, but only for 0.5% of your bankroll at the time of each new chase. You have a lot of action with high juice.
              Based on what you have seen so far, have you been able to calculate what the expected rate of return would be on flat betting for this season? Also, given the high juice with the chase method were able to come up with an adjusted expected unit loss per series? Going from 2% down .5% is a big jump so I was wondering how you came up with that specific number. Thanks for your insight Keel
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              • ledjend
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                • 10-14-14
                • 1111

                #392
                Originally posted by bryanoens
                It's been a crazy few weeks but the end result has been great. Let's hope for less stress in the coming weeks.
                That would be nice.
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                • ledjend
                  Restricted User
                  • 10-14-14
                  • 1111

                  #393
                  Originally posted by sportsbetter21
                  Way to be consistent
                  Thanks man!
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                  • sportsbetter21
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 12-30-14
                    • 266

                    #394
                    Originally posted by keel44
                    You are on pace for your worst flat betting result by a wide margin. That is disappointing because it was really the more safe way to play.

                    After seeing the chases in action, I would be in favor of chasing, but only for 0.5% of your bankroll at the time of each new chase. You have a lot of action with high juice.
                    This is sole reason I pitched a fit when asking for parameters on how the chase series were chosen.
                    SO YOU CAN BACKTEST THE NUMBERS.
                    Just because someone post they can win 100+ units and hit 80% or greater flat betting doesnt mean anything.
                    Hopefully you werent betting your 8% flatbetting theory but if you did then I hope you learned your lesson but this is sportsbetting and maybe the chase series will tank while the flat betting picks up at a higher win rate.
                    If this were easy and everyone had all the answers on how to pick winners 100% of the time then everyone would be doing it and bookies would go broke
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                    • ledjend
                      Restricted User
                      • 10-14-14
                      • 1111

                      #395
                      Originally posted by keel44
                      You are on pace for your worst flat betting result by a wide margin. That is disappointing because it was really the more safe way to play.

                      After seeing the chases in action, I would be in favor of chasing, but only for 0.5% of your bankroll at the time of each new chase. You have a lot of action with high juice.
                      You're exactly right, Keel - flat betting has been a disappointment up until now.

                      The core problem stems from the winning percentages. We were expecting a 67% or greater win rate, while we've only been hitting at 61.5% thus far.

                      There's still 5 weeks and 100+ plays to go and who knows, maybe we hit at a 75% clip over that period. Seems unlikely at the moment, but far from impossible.
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                      • ledjend
                        Restricted User
                        • 10-14-14
                        • 1111

                        #396
                        TODAY 8/17


                        - Pit A bet (vs Ari) -
                        currently -209, play Money Line (705 est)
                        - LAA A bet -
                        currently -142, play Money Line (1005 est)


                        Good luck!


                        *IMPORTANT:
                        Be sure to monitor the lines on Covers.com and wait as long as you can to place your action. Closing lines of -130 or lower should be made on the Run Line/Alternate Run Line.
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                        • ledjend
                          Restricted User
                          • 10-14-14
                          • 1111

                          #397
                          YESTERDAY 8/17

                          Flat Betting
                          (Entered day 107-67, -14.54 u)

                          - Pit at -203 - Loss
                          - LAA at -159 - Win


                          1-1, -1.03 u on day

                          Year to date only -199 lines and below - 77-47, +2.76 u
                          Year to date only -200 lines and above - 31-21, -18.33 u

                          Year to date combined - 108-68, -15.57 u



                          Chase
                          (Entered day 106-3, +52.5 u)

                          - Pit A bet - Loss
                          - LAA A bet - Win


                          Year to date - 107-3, +53.5 u


                          Important Note:
                          As of 7/23, lines of -200 or greater I have not been flat betting - but I continue to keep records for both: 1) for those of you who still are, and 2) to see whether that decision will turn out to be profitable or not.
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                          • keel44
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-01-09
                            • 3363

                            #398
                            Originally posted by chief42
                            Based on what you have seen so far, have you been able to calculate what the expected rate of return would be on flat betting for this season? Also, given the high juice with the chase method were able to come up with an adjusted expected unit loss per series? Going from 2% down .5% is a big jump so I was wondering how you came up with that specific number. Thanks for your insight Keel
                            I was only estimating. I know with all of these chases at once. You will have a day where you will have 3 "B" bets and a couple "C" bets all at once. Your bankroll will be in jeopardy, especially if you have a bad night.

                            You need protection and patience. If you somehow manage to make 100 units at 2% per, that would be spectacular.

                            There is nothing wrong with 100 units at 0.5% per. Coupled with the fact you could compound that 0.5% with every new series.

                            In all of these chases that are out there, people way over bet them. I mean think about it. If you start really low, you could raise your bets slowly after a chase loss and in theory you could chase a chase. You could also raise your bets slowly after chase wins as well.
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                            • ledjend
                              Restricted User
                              • 10-14-14
                              • 1111

                              #399
                              TODAY 8/18


                              - NYM C bet -
                              currently -104, play Alt Run Line +1.5 at -240 (705 est)
                              - NYY A bet (vs Min) -
                              currently -145, play Money Line (705 est)
                              - Pit B bet -
                              currently -192, play Money Line (705 est)
                              - Tex A bet (vs Sea) -
                              currently +127, play Run Line +1.5 at -145 (805 est)
                              - StL A bet (vs SF) -
                              currently -153, play Money Line (815 est)


                              Good luck!


                              *IMPORTANT:
                              Be sure to monitor the lines on Covers.com and wait as long as you can to place your action. Closing lines of -130 or lower should be made on the Run Line/Alternate Run Line.
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                              • Slipknot26
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-17-15
                                • 5046

                                #400
                                Thank you
                                Good Luck ledjend
                                Let's get it tonight
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                                • tr4sh
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 09-06-12
                                  • 311

                                  #401
                                  Mets making this a sweat.... wtf
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                                  • ledjend
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 10-14-14
                                    • 1111

                                    #402
                                    Originally posted by Slipknot26
                                    Thank you
                                    Good Luck ledjend
                                    Let's get it tonight
                                    Thanks buddy!
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                                    • ledjend
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 10-14-14
                                      • 1111

                                      #403
                                      Originally posted by tr4sh
                                      Mets making this a sweat.... wtf
                                      Lol I know - seems like no lead is ever safe.
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                                      • ledjend
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 10-14-14
                                        • 1111

                                        #404
                                        YESTERDAY 8/18

                                        Flat Betting
                                        (Entered day 108-68, -15.57 u)

                                        - StL at -141 - Loss
                                        - NYM +1.5 at -240 - Win
                                        - NYY at -139 - Win
                                        - Pitt at -191 - Win
                                        - Tex +1.5 at -135 - Win


                                        4-1, +2.59 u on day

                                        Year to date only -199 lines and below - 80-48, +4.35 u
                                        Year to date only -200 lines and above - 32-21, -17.33 u

                                        Year to date combined - 112-69, -12.98 u



                                        Chase
                                        (Entered day 107-3, +53.5 u)

                                        - StL A bet (vs SF) - Loss
                                        - NYM C bet - Win
                                        - NYY A bet (vs Min) - Win
                                        - Pit B bet (vs Ari) - Win
                                        - Tex A bet (vs Sea) - Win


                                        Year to date - 111-3, +57.5 u


                                        Important Note:
                                        As of 7/23, lines of -200 or greater I have not been flat betting - but I continue to keep records for both: 1) for those of you who still are, and 2) to see whether that decision will turn out to be profitable or not.
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                                        • Slipknot26
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-17-15
                                          • 5046

                                          #405
                                          Nice night ledjend
                                          It's a ghost town when C bets pop up in here haha
                                          Best of luck today
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                                          • ledjend
                                            Restricted User
                                            • 10-14-14
                                            • 1111

                                            #406
                                            Originally posted by Slipknot26
                                            Nice night ledjend
                                            It's a ghost town when C bets pop up in here haha
                                            Best of luck today
                                            Yeah you would think there'd be a little more reaction after we hit those.
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                                            • ledjend
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 10-14-14
                                              • 1111

                                              #407
                                              TODAY 8/19


                                              - Ari A bet -
                                              currently +144, play Run Line +1.5 at -155 (705 est)
                                              - StL B bet (vs SF) -
                                              currently -175, play Money Line (715 est)
                                              - Hou A bet (vs TB) -
                                              currently -177, play Money Line (810 est)


                                              Good luck!


                                              *IMPORTANT:
                                              Be sure to monitor the lines on Covers.com and wait as long as you can to place your action. Closing lines of -130 or lower should be made on the Run Line/Alternate Run Line.
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                                              • bryanoens
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 09-28-12
                                                • 224

                                                #408
                                                C C C C C!!!!! Woot woot...
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                                                • chief42
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 01-06-10
                                                  • 315

                                                  #409
                                                  First C bet I didnt think we had to sweat, then the dreaded Mets bullpen comes in and damn near blows the lid off the whole thing. That would have hurt if that didnt work out for us. Glad we survived another C bet. Just when I think I can breathe with this system, its on to the next one. Good work so far Legjend
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                                                  • chief42
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 01-06-10
                                                    • 315

                                                    #410
                                                    By the way, whats up with the funky spelling of your name?
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                                                    • ledjend
                                                      Restricted User
                                                      • 10-14-14
                                                      • 1111

                                                      #411
                                                      Originally posted by bryanoens
                                                      C C C C C!!!!! Woot woot...
                                                      Haha!
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                                                      • ledjend
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 10-14-14
                                                        • 1111

                                                        #412
                                                        Originally posted by chief42
                                                        By the way, whats up with the funky spelling of your name?
                                                        Me and my brothers use the word legend to describe pretty much everything - legend wasn't available, but ledjend was.
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                                                        • ledjend
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 10-14-14
                                                          • 1111

                                                          #413
                                                          YESTERDAY 8/19

                                                          Flat Betting
                                                          (Entered day 112-69, -12.98 u)

                                                          - Ari +1.5 at -175 - Loss
                                                          - StL at -159 - Win
                                                          - Hou at -173 - Win


                                                          2-1, +.25 u on day

                                                          Year to date only -199 lines and below - 82-49, +4.60 u
                                                          Year to date only -200 lines and above - 32-21, -17.33 u

                                                          Year to date combined - 114-70, -12.73 u



                                                          Chase
                                                          (Entered day 111-3, +57.5 u)

                                                          - Ari A bet - Loss
                                                          - StL B bet - Win
                                                          - Hou A bet (vs TB) - Win


                                                          Year to date - 113-3, +59.5 u


                                                          Important Note:
                                                          As of 7/23, lines of -200 or greater I have not been flat betting - but I continue to keep records for both: 1) for those of you who still are, and 2) to see whether that decision will turn out to be profitable or not.
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                                                          • ledjend
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 10-14-14
                                                            • 1111

                                                            #414
                                                            TODAY 8/20


                                                            - Pit A bet (vs SF) -
                                                            currently -135, play Money Line (705 est)
                                                            - Ari B bet -
                                                            currently -116, play Alt Run Line +1.5 at -280 (710 est)
                                                            - CHC A bet -
                                                            currently -280, play Money Line (805 est)
                                                            - CHC A bet (vs Atl) - currently -280, play Money Line (805 est)


                                                            Good luck!


                                                            *IMPORTANT:
                                                            Be sure to monitor the lines on Covers.com and wait as long as you can to place your action. Closing lines of -130 or lower should be made on the Run Line/Alternate Run Line.
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                                                            • ledjend
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 10-14-14
                                                              • 1111

                                                              #415
                                                              YESTERDAY 8/20

                                                              Flat Betting
                                                              (Entered day 114-70, -12.73 u)

                                                              - Pit +1.5 at -320 - Win
                                                              - Ari +1.5 at -270 - Win
                                                              - CHC at -290 - Win
                                                              - CHC at -290 - Win


                                                              4-0, +4 u on day

                                                              Year to date only -199 lines and below - 82-49, +4.60 u
                                                              Year to date only -200 lines and above - 36-21, -13.33 u

                                                              Year to date combined - 118-70, -8.73 u



                                                              Chase
                                                              (Entered day 113-3, +59.5 u)

                                                              - Pit A bet (vs SF) - Win
                                                              - Ari B bet - Win
                                                              - CHC A bet - Win
                                                              - CHC A bet (vs Atl) - Win


                                                              Year to date - 117-3, +63.5 u


                                                              Important Note:
                                                              As of 7/23, lines of -200 or greater I have not been flat betting - but I continue to keep records for both: 1) for those of you who still are, and 2) to see whether that decision will turn out to be profitable or not.
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                                                              • dishwasher
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 08-21-15
                                                                • 311

                                                                #416
                                                                just found this thread. great work. I have a 2000$ bankroll, how much should my unit size be for betting the chase? 30$ 40$? thank you.
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                                                                • InsaneStre4k
                                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                                  • 07-16-15
                                                                  • 55

                                                                  #417
                                                                  nice bounce back:
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                                                                  • bryanoens
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 09-28-12
                                                                    • 224

                                                                    #418
                                                                    Dish, I would suggest 2-3% which would be $40-$60 per unit.
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                                                                    • ledjend
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 10-14-14
                                                                      • 1111

                                                                      #419
                                                                      Originally posted by dishwasher
                                                                      just found this thread. great work. I have a 2000$ bankroll, how much should my unit size be for betting the chase? 30$ 40$? thank you.
                                                                      I recommend 2% of your bankroll, which is what I play for. So that would be $40.

                                                                      As a heads up though, there have been nights where I've had most of my bankroll in play. So it can get a little hairy here and there. If that scares you, then 1% might be the way to go.
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                                                                      • ledjend
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 10-14-14
                                                                        • 1111

                                                                        #420
                                                                        Originally posted by InsaneStre4k
                                                                        nice bounce back:
                                                                        Yes - seems like the mojo's finally back!
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