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  • shevabets
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 07-16-13
    • 927

    #211
    It's my pleasure. Hard work should be rewarded (even if it's fun)
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    • BenGooGa
      SBR High Roller
      • 10-07-13
      • 151

      #212
      Originally posted by hagball52
      It's not a system. It's a service I paid for because JM's system is so dull and slow the first part of the season so I purchased this and decided to share in this thread. I have no idea how it will go but I have been betting every play for one unit so tonight it finally showed some profit. They have been doing really well recently but there is no guarantee of success so if you are playing along do so with caution. I set aside a specific bankroll that I could afford to completely lose and it would not affect my overall sports betting other than piss me off. Just tread lightly because I asked them for past records and they said this is the first year of this program based on 4 years of back testing. I will continue to post the plays as long as it doesn't become a complete dumpster fire. Good luck.
      Appreciate you sharing your paid for service. Yes, i've been betting less than a unit on it too, and it is showing some positive signs so far. Thanks again Hagball.
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      • BenGooGa
        SBR High Roller
        • 10-07-13
        • 151

        #213
        I have noticed something related to the O/U plays that made sense to me. If a broker gives a lower odd on let's say an Under, it means that they believe that the game is gonna end up under. Knowing that brokers have plenty of resources and sharp ppl working for them to come up with those odds. I would say that their odds could be used as a signal. I tested this on some games, betting on every lower O/U odd (Using Bookmaker odds), and the results came up interesting. 11 wins for 2 losses on the 17th games. 9/3 on the 16th games. 5/5 on the 13th. I didn't test previous dates, but i am on the optimistic side that most of them will be positive. What do you guys thing of this, is it worth further digging?
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        • Wallco99
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-01-11
          • 7261

          #214
          Originally posted by hagball52
          shevabets, Thank you. That was more than generous.

          P.S. To everyone that has given me points it is greatly appreciated. We're all just trying to help each other get ahead.
          He has been very generous with points on here. Good guy.
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          • Wallco99
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-01-11
            • 7261

            #215
            4/18/14
            O/U plays

            Was (C) Under
            LAD (A) Over
            SF (A) Over
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            • hagball52
              SBR MVP
              • 09-22-10
              • 3053

              #216
              Originally posted by BenGooGa
              I have noticed something related to the O/U plays that made sense to me. If a broker gives a lower odd on let's say an Under, it means that they believe that the game is gonna end up under. Knowing that brokers have plenty of resources and sharp ppl working for them to come up with those odds. I would say that their odds could be used as a signal. I tested this on some games, betting on every lower O/U odd (Using Bookmaker odds), and the results came up interesting. 11 wins for 2 losses on the 17th games. 9/3 on the 16th games. 5/5 on the 13th. I didn't test previous dates, but i am on the optimistic side that most of them will be positive. What do you guys thing of this, is it worth further digging?

              You have only looked at a very small window. What you are doing takes a lot of work and backtesting. You are right about the books having a lot of smart people. They have an arsenal of intelligent people with college degrees in numbers and all of the latest and greatest software. For a single guy to think he can go in and compete against that and win consistently is a bit of a stretch. Not that it can't be done because I've met a few people that do win but what they have done is create their own little nitch where the books have flaws. It takes a lot of time and research and when they achieve it they usually aren't willing to share. All I can say is put in the time and let us know how it turns out. Good luck
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              • hagball52
                SBR MVP
                • 09-22-10
                • 3053

                #217
                Totals Plays 40-37 (+3.80 / +0.25 units)

                04/17 ATL @ PHI under 7.5 (even) win
                04/17 LAD @ SFO under 7 (even) win
                04/17 COL @ SDG over 7.5 (+120) loss
                04/17 MIL @ PIT over 7 (even) win
                04/17 CLE @ DET over 7.5 (+110) win
                04/17 SEA @ TEX over 9 (+105) win
                04/17 BOS @ CWS over 7.5 (+110) loss

                04/18 There are no plays for today that meet criteria .

                I'm starting to see a trend here. The odds you get on these plays are critical. By the time I bet these plays some of the numbers have changed. I'm just hoping that over time the law of averages will prevail and I get a few wins or pushes where they get a loss or a push otherwise the disparity in our unit totals could grow.
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                • BenGooGa
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 10-07-13
                  • 151

                  #218
                  Originally posted by hagball52
                  You have only looked at a very small window. What you are doing takes a lot of work and backtesting. You are right about the books having a lot of smart people. They have an arsenal of intelligent people with college degrees in numbers and all of the latest and greatest software. For a single guy to think he can go in and compete against that and win consistently is a bit of a stretch. Not that it can't be done because I've met a few people that do win but what they have done is create their own little nitch where the books have flaws. It takes a lot of time and research and when they achieve it they usually aren't willing to share. All I can say is put in the time and let us know how it turns out. Good luck
                  Sounds good, ill try to test it over the coming days and see how it performs. ill keep you guys updated.
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                  • hagball52
                    SBR MVP
                    • 09-22-10
                    • 3053

                    #219
                    JM MLB System
                    2014 Official season series record 0-0 (V1)
                    (A) 0-0

                    (B) 0-0
                    (C) 0-0
                    (D) 0-0

                    V2 plays 0-0

                    V3 system 0-0

                    Unofficial series
                    2-0
                    (A) 1-1
                    (B) 1-0
                    (C) 0-0
                    (D) 0-0
                    V2 plays 1-0

                    *Unofficial*
                    04/17 Pittsburgh (.454) v Milwaukee(.614) M/L (A) WIN

                    Next Plays
                    *Unofficial*
                    04/18 Kansas City (.479) v Minnesota (.530) M/L (A) 3 gm. set
                    04/18 Arizona (.430) @ LA Dodgers(.518) +1.5 R/L (A) 3 gm. set

                    Upcoming plays
                    05/16 NY Mets @
                    Washington
                    05/20 Miami @ Philadelphia
                    05/23 Arizona @ NY Mets

                    Notes: Nice to get our first (A) bet win. Last season we had 3 (C) bets in April so hopefully we won't see that again. We had one sweep yesterday with a future play.
                    05/26 HOU @ KAN

                    The rules for the JM MLB system can be found in post #10 and the filters in post #115 (pg. 4). Any results and information regarding the last 2 seasons are in posts #12, 13 and 14. Good luck all and let's make a little money this season.
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                    • hagball52
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-22-10
                      • 3053

                      #220
                      Originally posted by BenGooGa
                      Sounds good, ill try to test it over the coming days and see how it performs. ill keep you guys updated.
                      Thanks, your effort is appreciated
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                      • hagball52
                        SBR MVP
                        • 09-22-10
                        • 3053

                        #221
                        Totals Plays 40-37 (+3.80 / +0.25 units)

                        04/18 There are no plays for today that meet criteria .

                        04/19 STL @ WAS over 7.5 (+115)
                        04/19 MIL @ PIT over 7.5 (+110)

                        Thought I'd get this out tonight to see if anyone can grab these lines. Good luck.
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                        • Wallco99
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-01-11
                          • 7261

                          #222
                          4/19/14
                          No new plays for O/U system

                          LAD (B) over
                          SF (B) Over
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                          • knugen
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-09-09
                            • 2612

                            #223
                            Originally posted by Wallco99
                            4/19/14
                            No new plays for O/U system

                            LAD (B) over
                            SF (B) Over
                            Thx alot wallco. Really appreciate it
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                            • Boyne
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 07-15-12
                              • 73

                              #224
                              And me
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                              • hagball52
                                SBR MVP
                                • 09-22-10
                                • 3053

                                #225
                                JM MLB System
                                2014 Official season series record 0-0 (V1)
                                (A) 0-0

                                (B) 0-0
                                (C) 0-0
                                (D) 0-0

                                V2 plays 0-0

                                V3 system 0-0

                                Unofficial series
                                4-0
                                (A) 3-1
                                (B) 1-0
                                (C) 0-0
                                (D) 0-0
                                V2 plays 1-0

                                *Unofficial*
                                04/18 Kansas City (.479) v Minnesota (.530) M/L (A) WIN
                                04/18 Arizona (.430) @ LA Dodgers(.518) R/L / M/L (A) WIN

                                Next Plays
                                V3
                                04/19 Minnesota
                                (.519) @ Kansas City (.485) +1.5 R/L (A) 2 gm. set
                                04/19 LA Dodgers (.494) v Arizona (.429) M/L (A) 2 gm. set

                                Upcoming plays
                                05/16 NY Mets @
                                Washington
                                05/20 Miami @ Philadelphia
                                05/23 Arizona @ NY Mets

                                Notes: Nice to get 2 more (A) bet wins. I wiffed on a V3 play yesterday. I should have had Milwaukee as a play because they lost the first game to Pittsburgh and then came back and won last night. The rpi is so volatile this early in the season and I wasn't paying attention. Sorry about that. I won't count it on the record for now. Keep in mind that the V3 plays are only (A) and (B) bets there is no (C). Also I haven't been playing the road teams in V3 but do as you wish.

                                The rules for the JM MLB system can be found in post #10 and the filters in post #115 (pg. 4). Any results and information regarding the last 2 seasons are in posts #12, 13 and 14. Good luck all and let's make a little money this season.
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                                • imotiv8
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 12-28-09
                                  • 892

                                  #226
                                  Originally posted by Wallco99
                                  4/19/14
                                  No new plays for O/U system

                                  LAD (B) over
                                  SF (B) Over
                                  You're right, I was wrong. Thanks
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                                  • ok15533
                                    SBR High Roller
                                    • 12-14-09
                                    • 220

                                    #227
                                    Originally posted by knugen
                                    Thx alot wallco. Really appreciate it
                                    Allisoiswin thanks, Wallco thanks for taking time to post. We seriously appreciate it. You both are good at this thing.
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                                    • Wallco99
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-01-11
                                      • 7261

                                      #228
                                      Originally posted by ok15533
                                      Allisoiswin thanks, Wallco thanks for taking time to post. We seriously appreciate it. You both are good at this thing.
                                      Wish I had time for the full blown unit tracking and (A) (B) (C) (D) breakdowns, but I really don't.
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                                      • shevabets
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 07-16-13
                                        • 927

                                        #229
                                        Originally posted by Wallco99
                                        He has been very generous with points on here. Good guy.
                                        Well if the ball keeps bouncing our way, pretty soon I won't know what to do with them points. Love your work.
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                                        • Wallco99
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-01-11
                                          • 7261

                                          #230
                                          4/20/14
                                          Plays for O/U system

                                          SF (C) Over
                                          NYY (A) Under
                                          TB (A) Under
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                                          • hagball52
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-22-10
                                            • 3053

                                            #231
                                            Totals Plays 41-38 (+3.90 / +1.30 units)

                                            04/19 STL @ WAS over 7.5 (+115) loss
                                            04/19 MIL @ PIT over 7.5 (+110) win

                                            04/20 There are no plays for today that meet criteria .

                                            If you noticed I gained a little ground on the units. I had the STL/WAS total at 7 and got the push where they lost. I'm hoping that through the course of the season I get enough of those to offset the difference in the juice on the plays.

                                            P.S. I don't know what to make of these guys yet. Last Sunday we had 14 plays and now none today. I'm sure it'll pick up but there is no pattern at all.
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                                            • hagball52
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-22-10
                                              • 3053

                                              #232
                                              JM MLB System
                                              2014 Official season series record 0-0 (V1)
                                              (A) 0-0

                                              (B) 0-0
                                              (C) 0-0
                                              (D) 0-0

                                              V2 plays 0-0

                                              V3 system 2-0

                                              Unofficial series
                                              4-0
                                              (A) 3-1
                                              (B) 1-0
                                              (C) 0-0
                                              (D) 0-0
                                              V2 plays 1-0

                                              V3
                                              04/19 Minnesota
                                              (.519) @ Kansas City (.485) +1.5 R/L (A) WIN
                                              04/19 LA Dodgers (.494) v Arizona (.429) M/L (A) WIN

                                              Next Plays
                                              To be determined

                                              Upcoming plays
                                              05/16 NY Mets @
                                              Washington
                                              05/20 Miami @ Philadelphia
                                              05/23 Arizona @ NY Mets

                                              Notes: JM baseball is off to a rocking good start in April. I love picking up wins at the (A) and (B) levels. Very little stress that way.There are 8 possible sweeps today with 7 future plays and a few of them going off this month. Back tomorrow with the updates.

                                              HAPPY EASTER ! Everyone

                                              The rules for the JM MLB system can be found in post #10 and the filters in post #115 (pg. 4). Any results and information regarding the last 2 seasons are in posts #12, 13 and 14. Good luck all and let's make a little money this season.
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                                              • hagball52
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 09-22-10
                                                • 3053

                                                #233
                                                Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                Wish I had time for the full blown unit tracking and (A) (B) (C) (D) breakdowns, but I really don't.
                                                If someone in this thread other than Wallco would have enough time to go back and do an accounting of these totals it would be greatly appreciated. At that point I could probably keep a running tally with Wallco posting for now. And Wallco after May 20th if you don't want to do it anymore I might be able to take it from there.
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                                                • shevabets
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 07-16-13
                                                  • 927

                                                  #234
                                                  Χριστός ἀνέστη!
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                                                  • BenGooGa
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 10-07-13
                                                    • 151

                                                    #235
                                                    Originally posted by hagball52
                                                    If someone in this thread other than Wallco would have enough time to go back and do an accounting of these totals it would be greatly appreciated. At that point I could probably keep a running tally with Wallco posting for now. And Wallco after May 20th if you don't want to do it anymore I might be able to take it from there.
                                                    You mean keeping track of the win/loss records of wallco's O/U games? I can do that, but i wont be able to do the unit count, i dont know how to do it.
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                                                    • Wallco99
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                      • 7261

                                                      #236
                                                      Originally posted by BenGooGa
                                                      You mean keeping track of the win/loss records of wallco's O/U games? I can do that, but i wont be able to do the unit count, i dont know how to do it.
                                                      Just to avoid any confusion, they are not my plays. This is allidoiswin's system, I am just posting the daily plays until someone steps up to run the whole system in his absence. If I had time I would definitely do it for everyone, but summertime is extremely busy for me and I just need a break after NBA/NHL.
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                                                      • hagball52
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-22-10
                                                        • 3053

                                                        #237
                                                        Originally posted by BenGooGa
                                                        You mean keeping track of the win/loss records of wallco's O/U games? I can do that, but i wont be able to do the unit count, i dont know how to do it.
                                                        Just the totals for the (A), (B), (C) and (D) plays. The unit amounts can easily be figured from that. Each series to win one unit and any losses can be figured from the juice laid on the 4 plays that lost. If I'm not mistaken there was a series loss with the Cubs on the 13th.
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                                                        • BenGooGa
                                                          SBR High Roller
                                                          • 10-07-13
                                                          • 151

                                                          #238
                                                          Allidoiswin89's UNDER/OVER system 2014
                                                          Official season series record: 0-0
                                                          Unofficial season series record: 15-15


                                                          Last Play(s) results:

                                                          4/19/2014
                                                          ##### LAD OVER (B) Won
                                                          ##### SF OVER (B) Lost


                                                          Official Plays
                                                          (A) 0-0
                                                          (B) 0-0
                                                          (C) 0-0
                                                          (D) 0-0
                                                          Unofficial Plays
                                                          (A) 8-8
                                                          (B) 2-5
                                                          (C) 3-2
                                                          (D) 2-0

                                                          Next Play(s):

                                                          4/20/2014
                                                          ##### SF OVER (C)
                                                          ##### NYY UNDER (A)
                                                          ##### TB UNDER (A)


                                                          NOTES:
                                                          ***** Juice will be post on the following day based on "Covers" closing line. The KEY number to follow is the total.
                                                          ##### Unofficial Play
                                                          Rules of the system can be found on post #41
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                                                          • BenGooGa
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 10-07-13
                                                            • 151

                                                            #239
                                                            Let me know if am missing something
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                                                            • Wallco99
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-01-11
                                                              • 7261

                                                              #240
                                                              Originally posted by BenGooGa
                                                              Allidoiswin89's UNDER/OVER system 2014
                                                              Official season series record: 0-0
                                                              Unofficial season series record: 15-15


                                                              Last Play(s) results:

                                                              4/19/2014
                                                              ##### LAD OVER (B) Won
                                                              ##### SF OVER (B) Lost


                                                              Official Plays
                                                              (A) 0-0
                                                              (B) 0-0
                                                              (C) 0-0
                                                              (D) 0-0
                                                              Unofficial Plays
                                                              (A) 8-8
                                                              (B) 2-5
                                                              (C) 3-2
                                                              (D) 2-0

                                                              Next Play(s):

                                                              4/20/2014
                                                              ##### SF OVER (C)
                                                              ##### NYY UNDER (A)
                                                              ##### TB UNDER (A)


                                                              NOTES:
                                                              ***** Juice will be post on the following day based on "Covers" closing line. The KEY number to follow is the total.
                                                              ##### Unofficial Play
                                                              Rules of the system can be found on post #41
                                                              Season record is 13-1, the one loss was for 17.19 units, so system is -4.19 units at the moment, not including open series.

                                                              (A) 7-8
                                                              (B) 4-4
                                                              (C) 1-2
                                                              (D) 1-1
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                                                              • allidoiswin89
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 03-22-11
                                                                • 915

                                                                #241
                                                                Originally posted by BenGooGa
                                                                Allidoiswin89's UNDER/OVER system 2014
                                                                Official season series record: 0-0
                                                                Unofficial season series record: 15-15


                                                                Last Play(s) results:

                                                                4/19/2014
                                                                ##### LAD OVER (B) Won
                                                                ##### SF OVER (B) Lost


                                                                Official Plays
                                                                (A) 0-0
                                                                (B) 0-0
                                                                (C) 0-0
                                                                (D) 0-0
                                                                Unofficial Plays
                                                                (A) 8-8
                                                                (B) 2-5
                                                                (C) 3-2
                                                                (D) 2-0

                                                                Next Play(s):

                                                                4/20/2014
                                                                ##### SF OVER (C)
                                                                ##### NYY UNDER (A)
                                                                ##### TB UNDER (A)


                                                                NOTES:
                                                                ***** Juice will be post on the following day based on "Covers" closing line. The KEY number to follow is the total.
                                                                ##### Unofficial Play
                                                                Rules of the system can be found on post #41
                                                                There was already an unofficial loss. Hopefully ill have time to go back and make sure uve captured all the wins in the record
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                                                                • allidoiswin89
                                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                                  • 03-22-11
                                                                  • 915

                                                                  #242
                                                                  Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                                  Season record is 13-1, the one loss was for 17.19 units, so system is -4.19 units at the moment, not including open series.

                                                                  (A) 7-8
                                                                  (B) 4-4
                                                                  (C) 1-2
                                                                  (D) 1-1
                                                                  I quickly went through this forum and counted 15 games. Ill double check when I have time
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                                                                  • BenGooGa
                                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                                    • 10-07-13
                                                                    • 151

                                                                    #243
                                                                    Ok, guys. I have the time to keep the records until allidoiswin is back, but someone needs to PM me some instructions on what i need to do.
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                                                                    • Wallco99
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                                      • 7261

                                                                      #244
                                                                      Originally posted by allidoiswin89
                                                                      I quickly went through this forum and counted 15 games. Ill double check when I have time
                                                                      Yes, you are correct. System is actually 14-1, the bet I missed was an (A) bet, so the (A) bet record would actually be 8-8. This was a bet that I forgot to play and actually one, it wasn't on my spreadsheet because I had no action on it. Sorry.
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                                                                      • ok15533
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 12-14-09
                                                                        • 220

                                                                        #245
                                                                        Originally posted by allidoiswin89
                                                                        I quickly went through this forum and counted 15 games. Ill double check when I have time
                                                                        How did you calculate it to be - 17 units . How much units is that per play ?
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