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    It's going to be very hard to supplant Daniels.

    See this Chris Fowler link:
    https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/ls...n-play-better/
    ...Fowler alludes to the Heisman club not liking guys to leak votes.
    ...Fowler says that Daniels couldn't play better. So, he's effectively saying that he voted for Daniels.

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    Well see chuck I stand by my pick
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Well see chuck I stand by my pick
    Johnny
    No.
    hedge.

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    Hedge???

    did the odds move

    if Daniela wins so bi it

    i stand by my argument that being in the playoffs with the potential to raise stock will help him win

    even tho the voting takes place before if that makes sense

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    Makes sense. Daniels hasn't been in the spotlight in recent weeks. Could be the difference.

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    Daniels isnt losing this award.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    Daniels isnt losing this award.
    Well see

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    If I'm Penix I'm legally changing my name to anything else.
    Like the Seinfeld Joel Rifkin Seinfeld episode.





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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    If I'm Penix I'm legally changing my name to anything else.
    Like the Seinfeld Joel Rifkin Seinfeld episode.




    How many times was he the brunt of a joke in grade-school?

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    Johnny you're trying to lose... That's your niche. It's not cute anymore. Reinvent yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Hedge???

    did the odds move

    if Daniela wins so bi it

    i stand by my argument that being in the playoffs with the potential to raise stock will help him win

    even tho the voting takes place before if that makes sense
    hedge with the FAVORITE !!

    come on knucklehead !! (said with Charles Barkley voice)

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    hedge with the FAVORITE !!

    come on knucklehead !! (said with Charles Barkley voice)
    -1400 ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    -1400 ???
    Johnny, this one has me intrigued.

    1) Daniels won the Unitas award, which ties more closely to stats:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny...lden_Arm_Award

    2) The Heisman is traditionally tied to a guy leading his team to greatness.
    ...That's Penix!

    3) His teammates love him:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2nJBNZ21TE

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    -1400 ???
    yes.

    JAYDEN is winning.

    Nix is out after the recent loss.

    Jayden lost 3 games but had no D and the voters know this.

    40 passing TD's and 10 rushing.

    Penix? 32 passing TD's

    it is a wrap.

    Penix lost it vs ASU and Oreg St and Wazzu.

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    Johnny, think I have some good news.

    1) Look at the list of Unitas winners:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny...lden_Arm_Award

    2) Very different list of Heisman winners:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...Trophy_winners

    ...And the key difference is that the Heisman winner normally has great TEAM success.
    ...Your +900 has a chance, my man.

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    2023 Heisman odds

    Courtesy of DraftKings

    • Jayden Daniels -1200
    • Michael Penix +900
    • Bo Nix +1500
    • Marvin Harrison, Jr. +20000

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    By my count, you have to go back to Griffin in 2011 to find a Heisman winner with 3+ losses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    By my count, you have to go back to Griffin in 2011 to find a Heisman winner with 3+ losses.
    Lamar jackson I thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by homie1975 View Post
    yes.

    JAYDEN is winning.

    Nix is out after the recent loss.

    Jayden lost 3 games but had no D and the voters know this.

    40 passing TD's and 10 rushing.

    Penix? 32 passing TD's

    it is a wrap.

    Penix lost it vs ASU and Oreg St and Wazzu.
    Penix didn’t lose tho

    13-0 u dummy

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Lamar jackson I thought
    You're right. jackson.

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    Johnny, I'm rooting for you. I see a lot of support for Penix.

    At +900 odds, you only have to be right 1 in 10. I think you have good odds.

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    Thx chuck

    odds r down right now btw

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Thx chuck

    odds r down right now btw
    That's because the Deloitte ballot-counter had to ship in a big Penix bet.

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    never seen a guy try so hard for another guy's penix
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    chucker and johnny,
    you are circle jerking each other in an echo chamber

    suit yourself.

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    Still off the board on dk

    anyone see odds right now ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Still off the board on dk

    anyone see odds right now ?
    I'm seeing 2:1 odds on the pass line.

    Double check with Chuck though before you take your pants off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Munny View Post
    I'm seeing 2:1 odds on the pass line.

    Double check with Chuck though before you take your pants off.
    Pass line ?

    site ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyvegas13 View Post
    Pass line ?

    site ?





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    Hey, Eddy, fuk off, u troll.

    Johnny, I see the line coming down at BetOnline: Daniels -1000, Penix +700.

    ...Will be interested to see this result. Think you have a real shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Hey, Eddy, fuk off, u troll.

    Johnny, I see the line coming down at BetOnline: Daniels -1000, Penix +700.

    ...Will be interested to see this result. Think you have a real shot.
    What's the matter, am I c0ck blocking?

    You want me to leave you two lovebirds alone?

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    He did jam up Oregon 2x. Pretty impressive.

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    Pretty close. But the last poll has the 15 voters putting Daniels ahead of Penix:

    https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/st...rankings-stats

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    The Throat doing some heavy lifting in this thread.

    With the holidays just around the corner it's cuffing season and Chucky tryna bag him a mushburger to keep him warm on those cold, December nights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Munny View Post
    The Throat doing some heavy lifting in this thread.

    With the holidays just around the corner it's cuffing season and Chucky tryna bag him a mushburger to keep him warm on those cold, December nights.
    U love to keep rewriting the same joke eddy

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