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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    I was gonna say they should have never hired the Mfer. All he did was take Oregon and make them worse. Not exactly the guy I wanna hire!!!
    He was hired because he knows Recruiting in the state of Florida.

    Maybe the Gators can get him to be their recruiting coordinator now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadphish View Post
    off topic, but FSU related. folks in NCAAF thread on Sat. were claiming the brutal hit on FSU QB was not targeting. what do you think?


    https://twitter.com/NoleGIFs/status/1190756226088521728



    also, how can i enter this as a gif?
    seems he would have hit his shoulder until qb lowered his head I wouldnt call that targeting although Ive seen the same thing erroneously called before where guy was gonna hit the body of a player until the player lowered his head

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    Are there any prop bets out there on who the next coach will be? I've got a pretty good angle on who that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    I was gonna say they should have never hired the Mfer. All he did was take Oregon and make them worse. Not exactly the guy I wanna hire!!!
    how did he make oregon worse oregon didnt start losing until herbert got hurt the backup was trash couldnt ever throw for more than 70 yds in a game cant win with such trash once herbert was healthy after a month and a half they were back to winning

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    He was hired because he knows Recruiting in the state of Florida.

    Maybe the Gators can get him to be their recruiting coordinator now.
    He was hired for PC shit. He had shit records against anything. Cut the shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    how did he make oregon worse oregon didnt start losing until herbert got hurt the backup was trash couldnt ever throw for more than 70 yds in a game cant win with such trash once herbert was healthy after a month and a half they were back to winning
    You didn’t see chiefs play 2 solid games with a huge drop off from mahomes? Or saints reel off 5 in a row without their qb? bama looking great without Tua? Good coaches don’t let their teams go in tank when the qb goes down, bad ones do. Are we saying taggert was a good hire? This mother fukker is the biggest reason that racist piece of shit dblow sally’s “System” is above .500!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Leach's act doesn't work in a losing culture.
    And what was WAZZU??


    Washington State Cougars School History

    Seasons: 100 (1917 to 2019)
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    If you get into a fight, don't take your helmet off...We're looking for smart football players, not dumb ones. In the interest of time, don't get into any more fights today. ~ Mike Leach on fighting

    Rk Year Conf W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Coach(es) Bowl Notes
    1 2019 Pac-12 4 4 0 .500 5.47 1.22 23 19 Mike Leach (4-4)
    2 2018 Pac-12 11 2 0 .846 12.19 -0.04 7 10 Mike Leach (11-2) Alamo Bowl-W
    3 2017 Pac-12 9 4 0 .692 24 8 Mike Leach (9-4)
    4 2016 Pac-12 8 5 0 .615 9.03 3.18 20 Mike Leach (8-5) Holiday Bowl-L
    5 2015 Pac-12 9 4 0 .692 6.55 1.48 20 Mike Leach (9-4) Sun Bowl-W
    6 2014 Pac-12 3 9 0 .250 -1.54 6.47 Mike Leach (3-9)
    7 2013 Pac-12 6 7 0 .462 5.09 6.94 Mike Leach (6-7) New Mexico Bowl-L
    8 2012 Pac-12 3 9 0 .250 -6.89 3.36 Mike Leach (3-9)
    9 2011 Pac-12 4 8 0 .333 -5.61 0.14 Paul Wulff (4-8)
    10 2010 Pac-10 2 10 0 .167 -4.20 7.22 Paul Wulff (2-10)
    11 2009 Pac-10 1 11 0 .083 -14.87 4.88 Paul Wulff (1-11)
    12 2008 Pac-10 2 11 0 .154 -13.82 3.33 Paul Wulff (2-11)
    13 2007 Pac-10 5 7 0 .417 1.66 5.58 Bill Doba (5-7)
    14 2006 Pac-10 6 6 0 .500 5.81 5.40 25 Bill Doba (6-6)
    15 2005 Pac-10 4 7 0 .364 1.60 1.88 Bill Doba (4-7)
    16 2004 Pac-10 5 6 0 .455 2.67 5.39 Bill Doba (5-6)
    17 2003 Pac-10 10 3 0 .769 12.31 3.00 6 9 Bill Doba (10-3) Holiday Bowl-W
    18 2002 Pac-10 10 3 0 .769 13.47 4.01 11 3 10 Mike Price (10-3) Rose Bowl-L
    19 2001 Pac-10 10 2 0 .833 12.09 0.59 9 10 Mike Price (10-2) Sun Bowl-W
    20 2000 Pac-10 4 7 0 .364 1.93 6.66 Mike Price (4-7)
    Rk Year Conf W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Coach(es) Bowl Notes
    21 1999 Pac-10 3 9 0 .250 -4.93 1.15 Mike Price (3-9)
    22 1998 Pac-10 3 8 0 .273 -5.75 3.71 Mike Price (3-8)
    23 1997 Pac-10 10 2 0 .833 14.21 4.71 8 9 Mike Price (10-2) Rose Bowl-L
    24 1996 Pac-10 5 6 0 .455 1.41 2.32 Mike Price (5-6)
    25 1995 Pac-10 3 8 0 .273 -2.01 2.27 Mike Price (3-8)
    26 1994 Pac-10 8 4 0 .667 10.75 6.08 16 21 Mike Price (8-4) Alamo Bowl-W
    27 1993 Pac-10 5 6 0 .455 4.84 5.84 25 Mike Price (5-6)
    28 1992 Pac-10 9 3 0 .750 10.23 4.48 13 15 Mike Price (9-3) Copper Bowl-W
    29 1991 Pac-10 4 7 0 .364 0.01 4.47 Mike Price (4-7)
    30 1990 Pac-10 3 8 0 .273 -2.00 5.27 Mike Price (3-8)
    31 1989 Pac-10 6 5 0 .545 8.99 4.53 15 Mike Price (6-5)
    32 1988 Pac-10 9 3 0 .750 13.85 6.01 16 16 Dennis Erickson (9-3) Aloha Bowl-W
    33 1987 Pac-10 3 7 1 .318 -1.56 6.17 Dennis Erickson (3-7-1)
    34 1986 Pac-10 3 7 1 .318 3.09 9.46 Jim Walden (3-7-1)
    35 1985 Pac-10 4 7 0 .364 3.50 4.13 Jim Walden (4-7)
    36 1984 Pac-10 6 5 0 .545 4.61 3.06 Jim Walden (6-5)
    37 1983 Pac-10 7 4 0 .636 5.56 2.19 Jim Walden (7-4)
    38 1982 Pac-10 3 7 1 .318 -2.20 4.80 Jim Walden (3-7-1)
    39 1981 Pac-10 8 3 1 .708 9.87 2.62 14 Jim Walden (8-3-1) Holiday Bowl-L
    40 1980 Pac-10 4 7 0 .364 3.64 2.92 Jim Walden (4-7)
    Rk Year Conf W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Coach(es) Bowl Notes
    41 1979 Pac-10 3 8 0 .273 -1.38 7.81 Jim Walden (3-8) record adjusted to 4-7-0 by NCAA
    42 1978 Pac-10 3 7 1 .318 3.04 5.58 Jim Walden (3-7-1)
    43 1977 Pac-8 6 5 0 .545 8.71 7.26 15 Warren Powers (6-5) record adjusted to 7-4-0 by NCAA
    44 1976 Pac-8 3 8 0 .273 -0.53 5.84 Jackie Sherrill (3-8)
    45 1975 Pac-8 3 8 0 .273 -0.44 4.47 Jim Sweeney (3-8)
    46 1974 Pac-8 2 9 0 .182 -3.12 5.07 Jim Sweeney (2-9)
    47 1973 Pac-8 5 6 0 .455 5.20 8.20 Jim Sweeney (5-6)
    48 1972 Pac-8 7 4 0 .636 9.61 5.07 19 19 Jim Sweeney (7-4)
    49 1971 Pac-8 4 7 0 .364 3.25 5.98 Jim Sweeney (4-7)
    50 1970 Pac-8 1 10 0 .091 -2.36 11.73 Jim Sweeney (1-10)
    51 1969 Pac-8 1 9 0 .100 -6.95 8.05 Jim Sweeney (1-9)
    52 1968 Pac-8 3 6 1 .350 -1.48 0.72 Jim Sweeney (3-6-1)
    53 1967 AAWU 2 8 0 .200 -5.25 5.55 Bert Clark (2-8)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    You didn’t see chiefs play 2 solid games with a huge drop off from mahomes? Or saints reel off 5 in a row without their qb? bama looking great without Tua? Good coaches don’t let their teams go in tank when the qb goes down, bad ones do. Are we saying taggert was a good hire? This mother fukker is the biggest reason that racist piece of shit dblow sally’s “System” is above .500!!
    bro this is college football the dropoff is much different matt moore has been a pro for 13 yrs and the chiefs have a good team and playmakers same with bama that backup for oregon sucked. those lines in dlow's system are just bad Id fade them too go back and look at the lines for some reason the black coaches have been getting bad lines, fsu -3 against canes? opened at -5 I think, easy fade. Im saying I dont think we really know if taggart was a good hire or not he wasnt given long enough normally when a coach takes over people always talk about him having a chance to recruit and bring in his players but from day one it was fire taggart literally after the first game against samford and from then on. all Ive seen since a couple of weeks ago on braska boards is wait till frost gets his players and about how the team sucks and the players arnt playing with enough fire u just dont see criticism of the coach big difference in the way things are discussed
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    You right it different, College is much easier to win games with a lessor qb!!

    I dunno how he is recruiting or if players like him but he a awful fukkin in game coach, his teams typically way worse after halftime. That coaching!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    You right it different, College is much easier to win games with a lessor qb!!

    I dunno how he is recruiting or if players like him but he a awful fukkin in game coach, his teams typically way worse after halftime. That coaching!!!
    scorewise it seems that way Im sure the fsu fans here will tell u that for the past several years fsu plays to level of competition I have a good friend that has been saying that for years and it drives him crazy but it was kind of the opposite where they would go through the motions for the 1st half and then start to turn it on more in the 2nd half

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2daBank View Post
    You right it different, College is much easier to win games with a lessor qb!!
    I dunno how he is recruiting or if players like him but he a awful fukkin in game coach, his teams typically way worse after halftime. That coaching!!!
    They were worse after halftime because they ran a lot of no huddle, hurry up offense and often had horrible time of possession. So FSUs defense was completely gassed in the 2nd half. That is coaching but I'm not sure he ran the offense?

    What I do know is that they are a very young team. Whoever takes over for them will have a great up and coming squad. It is a raw deal that it seems black coaches get let go a lot quicker than white coaches (unless you're Marvin Lewis). Like previously mentioned, compare Taggert and Frost and there's two different narratives, while they both suck. Those black coaches usually don't ever get another high profile gig, while guys like Charlie Weiss or a Will Muschamp fail forward.

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    FSU took 10 steps back hiring this pile of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 19th Hole View Post
    And what was WAZZU??


    Washington State Cougars School History

    Seasons: 100 (1917 to 2019)
    Record (W-L-T): 477-524-38
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    If you get into a fight, don't take your helmet off...We're looking for smart football players, not dumb ones. In the interest of time, don't get into any more fights today. ~ Mike Leach on fighting

    Rk Year Conf W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Coach(es) Bowl Notes
    1 2019 Pac-12 4 4 0 .500 5.47 1.22 23 19 Mike Leach (4-4)
    2 2018 Pac-12 11 2 0 .846 12.19 -0.04 7 10 Mike Leach (11-2) Alamo Bowl-W
    3 2017 Pac-12 9 4 0 .692 24 8 Mike Leach (9-4)
    4 2016 Pac-12 8 5 0 .615 9.03 3.18 20 Mike Leach (8-5) Holiday Bowl-L
    5 2015 Pac-12 9 4 0 .692 6.55 1.48 20 Mike Leach (9-4) Sun Bowl-W
    6 2014 Pac-12 3 9 0 .250 -1.54 6.47 Mike Leach (3-9)
    7 2013 Pac-12 6 7 0 .462 5.09 6.94 Mike Leach (6-7) New Mexico Bowl-L
    8 2012 Pac-12 3 9 0 .250 -6.89 3.36 Mike Leach (3-9)
    9 2011 Pac-12 4 8 0 .333 -5.61 0.14 Paul Wulff (4-8)
    10 2010 Pac-10 2 10 0 .167 -4.20 7.22 Paul Wulff (2-10)
    11 2009 Pac-10 1 11 0 .083 -14.87 4.88 Paul Wulff (1-11)
    12 2008 Pac-10 2 11 0 .154 -13.82 3.33 Paul Wulff (2-11)
    13 2007 Pac-10 5 7 0 .417 1.66 5.58 Bill Doba (5-7)
    14 2006 Pac-10 6 6 0 .500 5.81 5.40 25 Bill Doba (6-6)
    15 2005 Pac-10 4 7 0 .364 1.60 1.88 Bill Doba (4-7)
    16 2004 Pac-10 5 6 0 .455 2.67 5.39 Bill Doba (5-6)
    17 2003 Pac-10 10 3 0 .769 12.31 3.00 6 9 Bill Doba (10-3) Holiday Bowl-W
    18 2002 Pac-10 10 3 0 .769 13.47 4.01 11 3 10 Mike Price (10-3) Rose Bowl-L
    19 2001 Pac-10 10 2 0 .833 12.09 0.59 9 10 Mike Price (10-2) Sun Bowl-W
    20 2000 Pac-10 4 7 0 .364 1.93 6.66 Mike Price (4-7)
    Rk Year Conf W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Coach(es) Bowl Notes
    21 1999 Pac-10 3 9 0 .250 -4.93 1.15 Mike Price (3-9)
    22 1998 Pac-10 3 8 0 .273 -5.75 3.71 Mike Price (3-8)
    23 1997 Pac-10 10 2 0 .833 14.21 4.71 8 9 Mike Price (10-2) Rose Bowl-L
    24 1996 Pac-10 5 6 0 .455 1.41 2.32 Mike Price (5-6)
    25 1995 Pac-10 3 8 0 .273 -2.01 2.27 Mike Price (3-8)
    26 1994 Pac-10 8 4 0 .667 10.75 6.08 16 21 Mike Price (8-4) Alamo Bowl-W
    27 1993 Pac-10 5 6 0 .455 4.84 5.84 25 Mike Price (5-6)
    28 1992 Pac-10 9 3 0 .750 10.23 4.48 13 15 Mike Price (9-3) Copper Bowl-W
    29 1991 Pac-10 4 7 0 .364 0.01 4.47 Mike Price (4-7)
    30 1990 Pac-10 3 8 0 .273 -2.00 5.27 Mike Price (3-8)
    31 1989 Pac-10 6 5 0 .545 8.99 4.53 15 Mike Price (6-5)
    32 1988 Pac-10 9 3 0 .750 13.85 6.01 16 16 Dennis Erickson (9-3) Aloha Bowl-W
    33 1987 Pac-10 3 7 1 .318 -1.56 6.17 Dennis Erickson (3-7-1)
    34 1986 Pac-10 3 7 1 .318 3.09 9.46 Jim Walden (3-7-1)
    35 1985 Pac-10 4 7 0 .364 3.50 4.13 Jim Walden (4-7)
    36 1984 Pac-10 6 5 0 .545 4.61 3.06 Jim Walden (6-5)
    37 1983 Pac-10 7 4 0 .636 5.56 2.19 Jim Walden (7-4)
    38 1982 Pac-10 3 7 1 .318 -2.20 4.80 Jim Walden (3-7-1)
    39 1981 Pac-10 8 3 1 .708 9.87 2.62 14 Jim Walden (8-3-1) Holiday Bowl-L
    40 1980 Pac-10 4 7 0 .364 3.64 2.92 Jim Walden (4-7)
    Rk Year Conf W L T Pct SRS SOS AP Pre AP High AP Post Coach(es) Bowl Notes
    41 1979 Pac-10 3 8 0 .273 -1.38 7.81 Jim Walden (3-8) record adjusted to 4-7-0 by NCAA
    42 1978 Pac-10 3 7 1 .318 3.04 5.58 Jim Walden (3-7-1)
    43 1977 Pac-8 6 5 0 .545 8.71 7.26 15 Warren Powers (6-5) record adjusted to 7-4-0 by NCAA
    44 1976 Pac-8 3 8 0 .273 -0.53 5.84 Jackie Sherrill (3-8)
    45 1975 Pac-8 3 8 0 .273 -0.44 4.47 Jim Sweeney (3-8)
    46 1974 Pac-8 2 9 0 .182 -3.12 5.07 Jim Sweeney (2-9)
    47 1973 Pac-8 5 6 0 .455 5.20 8.20 Jim Sweeney (5-6)
    48 1972 Pac-8 7 4 0 .636 9.61 5.07 19 19 Jim Sweeney (7-4)
    49 1971 Pac-8 4 7 0 .364 3.25 5.98 Jim Sweeney (4-7)
    50 1970 Pac-8 1 10 0 .091 -2.36 11.73 Jim Sweeney (1-10)
    51 1969 Pac-8 1 9 0 .100 -6.95 8.05 Jim Sweeney (1-9)
    52 1968 Pac-8 3 6 1 .350 -1.48 0.72 Jim Sweeney (3-6-1)
    53 1967 AAWU 2 8 0 .200 -5.25 5.55 Bert Clark (2-8)

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    Let me rephrase that. Leach's act won't work with FSU's losing culture. They would run him out on a rail too.

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    sea, we don't need this bitch ass shit bro. FSU wins national championships with top recruits not playing bitch ball.

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    FSU losing culture.....they won a championship in 2013 you idiots

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    Why is everyone trying to hide the truth in here. He was fired because he IS a terrible HC and he IS Black. Florida State tried to make a statement, just like the two Arizona Schools in the Pac 12 are. The Alumni run things at high profile schools, and the alumni did NOT want a black Head Coach. The fact that he did not know his tail from a hole in the ground did not help him. Taggart is gone. Sumlin will be next. He single handedly took the best QB in the Pac 12 and ruined him. Arizona ends up 4-8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unde0087 View Post
    sea, we don't need this bitch ass shit bro. FSU wins national championships with top recruits not playing bitch ball.
    unde, I've watched FSU play a few times under Taggert. I can't tell that they have any or many top recruits. They get manhandled first then they self destruct. Not the qualities nor traits of top recruits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Booya711 View Post
    FSU losing culture.....they won a championship in 2013 you idiots
    Fourteen consecutive seasons of 10 wins or more.
    Fourteen consecutive top-five finishes in the Associated Press Top 25 poll.
    Two national championships.
    Nine consecutive conference titles.


    Over the course of 14 seasons from 1987 to 2000, the Seminoles had a 152-19-1 record, winning 88 percent of their games. FSU won national championships in 1993 and 1999 and finished No. 2 twice and No. 3 five times.

    https://www.espn.com/college-footbal...llege-football

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadphish View Post
    Fourteen consecutive top-five finishes in the Associated Press Top 25 poll.
    i bet that is a feat that will never repeated by any team ever in NCAAF

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    It is really sad that this country has turned so many hirings/firings into this inequality black/ white issue when most of the time it is not.

    This one is 100% a " green " issue- meaning money. Big elite schools like FSU cannot financially have 30,000 empty seats because their football team and coach stinks. They cannot afford to keep him despite paying him 17 million for a buyout. They have lost so much revenue under Taggert that their athletic department is struggling to pay for the non revenue sports.

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    Pay whatever it takes to get Urban Meyer and FSU will be a playoff team every season in a weak ACC.

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    must be nice


    Florida State will end up paying 3 buyouts, totaling over $20 million, to fire Willie Taggart

    of course i dont' think texas a and m is too thrilled paying jimbo fisher fully guaranteed 10 years 75 million dollars for what he is doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by deadphish View Post
    off topic, but FSU related. folks in NCAAF thread on Sat. were claiming the brutal hit on FSU QB was not targeting. what do you think?
    Looks like targeting to me. Not wrapping up is typically a giveaway.

    Funny, I was just trying to find that crazy hit on Rix that didn't even draw a flag in that game FSU lost 41-9 to UNC in '01.

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    Here comes Stoops

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    Seeing Willie T. get fired on Sunday ruined the fun of the W on Saturday. Needed that bum there for a few more years. He is a recruiter. Not a head football coach of a top flight program.

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    He is a horrible coach and preparer

    TWICE Saturday they had 10 guys on field for punts.

    Inexcusable.

    You have to beat FL or MIA to keep the gig, he can't even get 11 guys on the field....

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    Quote Originally Posted by boss_of_um View Post
    Seeing Willie T. get fired on Sunday ruined the fun of the W on Saturday. Needed that bum there for a few more years. He is a recruiter. Not a head football coach of a top flight program.
    Miami has been irrelevant much longer than FSU....one garbage team beat a worse garbage team on Saturday.....don’t get it twisted

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    Quote Originally Posted by seaborneq View Post
    Leach's act doesn't work in a losing culture.
    Cougs were losing for years since Mike Price left.

    Simply not true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    He is a horrible coach and preparer

    TWICE Saturday they had 10 guys on field for punts.

    Inexcusable.

    You have to beat FL or MIA to keep the gig, he can't even get 11 guys on the field....
    I didn't know much about him or the drama or anything because, as an adult, who has time?

    I saw a little piece on ESPN about him being from FSU and saw the interview, and I literally said this guy is a complete idiot.

    You can just tell by some people looking them in the eyes and how they speak that they are stupid as penetrate.

    No idea how he gets hired the anything.

    It's like watching jJameis Winston speak, with his crossed eyes and shit, you just know he's an idiot

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    a few things,

    FWIW, taggert was thought to have done an awesome job in his one year at Oregon. surprises me some, but that's the opinion (or was the opinion. we might deal with revisionist history now)........

    interesting idea on taggert being a small college coach.......... like an underdog coach. has great schemes for lesser talent that is a bit outmatched. but not good with superior talent. and if you have wrong schemes for personnel, the whole thing can be really bad as the players lose interest.

    looking at florida high school recruiting the last few years is really scary. FSU, UF and M-F don't get that high a % of top 20 HS recruits. alot of teams in there now (clemson esp.). moderately more in-state competition as mentioned............ hasn't 2nd tier florida talent (mid-weak 3 stars) been going to maryland, kentucky, west virginia, tennessee etc. etc. for years. or just more and more teams now ...... seems like cali, florida and texas supply many of the CFB teams in their general region. SEC teams have the benefit of their own in-state black talent. often not massive numbers but good quality.......... seems like TV means you can play anywhere now

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