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    Here are some numbers from an actual casino on strip last night. Slot hold 1.4 mil Table game hold 1.9 mil. Do you still really think a 400k liability on NE winning outright makes a difference to bottom line?

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    As a Pats fan (and possibly bettor but probably won't bother), I'm very worried about this Vegas position! I was already petrified about the raping that is 1,000% sure to come from the refs if the game is even remotely close. Hochuli sucks to begin with, and likely he and his crew will be tossing phantom PI calls against our corners late in the game, or phantom OPI calls on legal rub plays... something, for sure.

    But with Vegas so locked into the Broncos, I'm having even more nightmare fantasies about how this could play out. Basically, Pats need to step on them early.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Honestly... whoever wins... all good match ups for the Super Bowl

    Only match up that would suck for me... Arizona VS New England. Just seems boring as fuk.

    I agree.. powerhouse match up... Carolina VS New England.
    how the hell is arizona vs New England boring....

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    2 team teaser. Ariz +9.5; Denver +10.

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    Actually, I decided to pay extra:

    2 team teaser
    Zona +10
    Broncos + 10.5

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    vegas doesnt take positions on gms anymore. casinos dont want to gamble. im sure their action is fairly even or they would move the line

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    Quote Originally Posted by getlucky2win View Post
    vegas doesnt take positions on gms anymore. casinos dont want to gamble. im sure their action is fairly even or they would move the line
    I know otherwise.


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    you're wrong

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    Vegas don't run the sports betting show anymore.

    "While nearly $4 billion is bet on sports legally in Las Vegas yearly, an estimated $80 billion to $380 billion is wagered illegally through a shadow industry of offshore online betting houses," Washington Post. Those are based off of 2014 stats.

    KVB is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getlucky2win View Post
    you're wrong
    Like I always say, it's not that bettors don't know, it's that so much they know is wrong.

    Don't be afraid to learn getlucky.


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    exactly my point. pinny might take a position but vegas tries not to. i used to work at caesars sportsbook and they are buncha pansies. why would they pull teasers if they wanted action

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    Quote Originally Posted by getlucky2win View Post
    exactly my point. pinny might take a position but vegas tries not to. i used to work at caesars sportsbook and they are buncha pansies. why would they pull teasers if they wanted action
    Agreed, times have changed but the marketplace as a whole feeds off of itself. Pinny and Vegas not all that far apart when it comes to closing numbers (prices excluded).

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    Perhaps casinos are more conservative but they are still taking positions.
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    Broncos lines dropping like crazy. ANyone see this

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    i shouldnt say all of vegas because some books are sharper than others. westgate may have 3 while stations 3.5 but most these casinos dont want alot of exposure even if they are on the sharp side. there objective is to collect juice. hell they limit max bets on table games where they know they have edge. not like the old days where binions would let u bet millions on pass line

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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungGambler View Post
    Broncos lines dropping like crazy. ANyone see this
    Certain groups are making their move...

    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I'm on Denver most of this week, all kinds of positions. Win or lose, this is the bet I must make. My forecasts show Denver winning 24-21 and while there is reason it could be wrong, it's the sharp way to go for a few market reasons, including the projection. I’m not surprised the early opener of 3.5 moved to 3 and am also not surprised the 44.5 was static so long before moving onto 45. My “raw” predictions went to 47 and others a little higher. The total line is very sharp but I feel the game spread is off. It could be a trap for some groups of bettors...

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    Wow, New England -3 (+110) was available right before kickoff on BookMaker/Heritage Late money on Denver.

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    That money was sharp coming from certain groups. They are consistent with my predictions but we don't have to win.

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    Carolina -2.5 @-108 1h for me also on Pats ml live +135 just a unit each so far. Bol everyone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by R.P. McMurphy View Post
    Carolina -2.5 @-108 1h for me also on Pats ml live +135 just a unit each so far. Bol everyone!
    BOL McMurphyer! Juiced +3.5 here at Aria for the Cards. Bird gang in the house. Book is packed.

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    Vegas going to win big on the first game

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    Big man gronk can't breath officiating was nothing to do with this Denver was sharp hope u didn't go New England ml coach

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    Quote Originally Posted by italianbandit View Post
    Actually, I decided to pay extra:

    2 team teaser
    Zona +10
    Broncos + 10.5
    Sorry to Pat backers, I was rooting for you since I had the extra points.

    Go Zona!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLock View Post
    If you want a stress free Sunday just play both dogs on the money line for 1 unit each.

    Worst case scenario is you lose 2 units. Big friggin deal.

    If one dog wins you make money.

    Both dogs win and its wine and roses.

    Me personally, I have Broncos +3 +100 and Cardinals +3 -105 for 2 units each. I want some stress tomorrow.

    Stress free, boys.

    Stress free.

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    Carolina look sharp we could be in trouble

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post

    EL why you gotta call me out like that?

    Well... 2 ways to look at this. Martingale the 2 favs... or 2 underdogs. Could you see New England VS Carolina in the Super Bowl? Both great teams... 1 probably going to end up there.. right? Then Martingale -3 each. First game wins... BOOM... you're done. Enjoy the $

    Could you see Denver or Arizona in the Super Bowl? Then take both doggies. Just like you said... Vegas might get buried if both favorites win.

    I can't see both dogs winning. I can't see both favorites winning. Martingale approach... and don't mind fuk this too much like The Giant said.

    But for anyone who's trying to cash in both without Martingale approach... it's not worth it. Waste of time.
    1 Underdog

    1 Favorite

    Hope everyone cashed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    1 Underdog

    1 Favorite

    Hope everyone cashed!
    Lost Pats bets, Cards teaser, hammered Panthers ML. Break even-ish. Better than a total burial. Broncos pass rush was insane. They didn't tire the whole game. Brady couldn't gain yds when it mattered. Was very lucky on a few passes.

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    Vid I shot while crossing into NV. I sent it to BIGDAY to post yesterday, but he is a

    http://youtu.be/rYlTJ8Ti2Sw

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Nino View Post
    Wow, New England -3 (+110) was available right before kickoff on BookMaker/Heritage Late money on Denver.
    Some websites claim Pinnacle went to New England -3 (+118) just before Kick. That's just crazy. Almost telling you who to take. Don't recall ever a line like that winning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Some websites claim Pinnacle went to New England -3 (+118) just before Kick. That's just crazy. Almost telling you who to take. Don't recall ever a line like that winning.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    ...Truth be told... if you're losing 6 straight wagers on your most calculated and precise analyst and you still lose... you shouldn't be sports gambling.
    Either you haven't been doing this for very long or you have a poor memory. Either way I thank you for whatever contributions you've made to the marketplace, some of which I've taken, and would encourage you to be willing to learn along the way in an effort to improve at sportsbetting.

    There's a learning curve on which you have just begun to ride, regardless of how long you've been betting.

    Start with the basics, track your bets and why you made them, and try to understand why the line opens where it does and why it moves to where it does.

    Good Luck.


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