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    SBR_John
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    "I worked for Wayne Root, let me tell you about it".

    The Real Wayne Root

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    I worked for Wayne Root for the football season in 2001. Since that time I do my own capping. I may not have made much money but boy did I learn that you want to stay as far away from an operation like this as you can. Here's what I learned.
    1. His operation is a boiler room. You are given a script. You sell up front then one day after the sale the reloaders work on getting the customer to sign up for Wayne's eight other level's of games. We lied about Wayne's record all the time. Unless you told a potential client that Wayne hit 70% or higher you couldn't get any money.As soon as we finished selling someone for Wayne Root then he was handed to another salesman for one of Wayne's five other companies. The picks were losing so bad during the four months I was there that guys were giving out what they liked. It was the only way to stop a mutiny.
    2. Wayne was a bigger liar than the salesman. If he had a newspaper guy on the phone he would say stuff that was totally untrue. He once told a guy that we had over 100 salesman at that time. I counted desks and office staff. It was 45 people.
    3. He wrote and published a book within the last year. I talked to someone at the Gambler's Warehouse last month and asked how many copies were sold nationally. His answer was they had three copies of the b ook a month ago and still had three copies. I said "could he have sold more than a thousand copies nationally?". His answer was, "probably not". I'm sure Wayne will never give out figures on the number of copies sold.
    4. He switches TV stations in which he puts his 30 minute infomertial on Saturday mornings every year. Here's the reason is he isn't getting the desired results? Whether it's WGN, Spike TV or a national cable sports network, it never is enough to make him happy. Unless he gets on ESPN he's not going to make enough money to pay for the outragious price it costs to produce and buy time.
    5. He doesn't even bet the games he gives to his clients. Once in an interview he even admitted it. Whay would anyone in their right mind pay someone for selections they didn't feel strongly enough to bet? They would have to be a moron and be totally new to betting or using a tout.
    Wayne Root is a pathological liar who loved himself. He's not an idiot and can sell a deal and make things happen for a while. I think eventually his company will crumble and he will try to move on to something else. Anyone who buys his stock should have their head examined. It's at .04 cents for a reason. It could be delisted any day now.
    -Ex Wayne Root employee
    -------------------------------------------------------
    source: gambling911.com
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    i guess i shouldn't be buying any stock in "gwin" then uh

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    I like him, he's one of the best fades on the planet.:0

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    he has good hair, i am follicly challenged and can appreciate that.

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    sbrjohn...thanks for this article...bringing back memories of Two For the Money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigboydan View Post
    i guess i shouldn't be buying any stock in "gwin" then uh
    here is a link to current info on Wayne's company as it is.. W Technologies ticker WTCG.

    just did a nice fat 1 for 200 share Reverse Split.

    Lather, Rinse, Repeat.. issue and sell more stock over and over again
    - just one way this crook finances his lifestyle

    http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/WTCG/company-info

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    oh the FACTS i can tell you about this piece of filth

    he once told me personally that the movie "two for the money" is ABOUT HIM

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    i am totally against all touts.
    i am interested in predicted line movements or someone who can make a better line

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    never f*kkin heard of him or the OP

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    some who consistently loses is just as valuable as someone who wins...

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    Is this the guy who owns root sports?

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    GREAT READ JOHN, ive dealt with him a few times in the past years ago.

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    a post from 5 years ago and people in here don't even know it

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    Dealings of despair

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    Shit, I voted this guy for President... No, seriously...

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    nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by ttwarrior1 View Post
    a post from 5 years ago and people in here don't even know it

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    Never read this before so thanks John.

    Not at all surprised. You can tell after a minute with guys like him that he is completely full of crap.
    Was around plenty of these types during my years at the track.These people usually surface at Preakness time in Maryland.Pretty sure he was there several times in the 2 weeks leading up.Certainly Mike W was.
    Sad that they do sucker some people .

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    Caveat Emptor...

    Always a good, no, a great policy to live by...

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    Enjoyable read......suspected but good to hear from someone who was there

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    Root is not bad in college football. That is the only sport I would monitor what hes on.

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    how is this news? you could put any touts name in for waynes and it would be a true story.
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    Wonder if Root uses a dart board then laughs his way to the bank???

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    how do you get one of these touts to call you? I'm really bored right now

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    Wow this is sounds like a horrendous operation. Thanks for the info.
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    People seriously sound surprised?

    Between the well oiler boiler room and his cash grab through patent lawsuits, WAR is convinced people want him to be president.

    Things are bad - but they ain't THAT $@$!#!@# bad.

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    cant believe this is news, its like saying the sun is up today.

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    thats a great read old or not....anyone else work for any touts.....i never saw any job postings for these guys in las vegas.....why pay anyone to lose money for u

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    Love this guy his is the perfect tout. We had a guy in Cleveland would say its not a game we can win its a game we can't lose lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PingPong View Post
    how do you get one of these touts to call you? I'm really bored right now
    Many ways.

    Sign up for a newsletter which also asks for your phone #.

    Call a free picks number and don't block your number.

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    Boiler room antics. Seen a few circuits like that, even a guy that runs it out of his basement with 10 flatscreen monitors with stock market candlestick charts running, monster cigar, etc. He worked every angle and exhausted his client base. You can win for a bit...but takes more than a pony show or magic ball to keep picking them. Over the years, I've seen them all...and confident to say there are est. 10% in the market that are good. The rest...like this tout....lets let his results speak for him...never know...you could have been fired and disgruntle. lol. But I'm onthe same page....I've heard this before about this tout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    The Real Wayne Root

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    I worked for Wayne Root for the football season in 2001. Since that time I do my own capping. I may not have made much money but boy did I learn that you want to stay as far away from an operation like this as you can. Here's what I learned.
    1. His operation is a boiler room. You are given a script. You sell up front then one day after the sale the reloaders work on getting the customer to sign up for Wayne's eight other level's of games. We lied about Wayne's record all the time. Unless you told a potential client that Wayne hit 70% or higher you couldn't get any money.As soon as we finished selling someone for Wayne Root then he was handed to another salesman for one of Wayne's five other companies. The picks were losing so bad during the four months I was there that guys were giving out what they liked. It was the only way to stop a mutiny.
    2. Wayne was a bigger liar than the salesman. If he had a newspaper guy on the phone he would say stuff that was totally untrue. He once told a guy that we had over 100 salesman at that time. I counted desks and office staff. It was 45 people.
    3. He wrote and published a book within the last year. I talked to someone at the Gambler's Warehouse last month and asked how many copies were sold nationally. His answer was they had three copies of the b ook a month ago and still had three copies. I said "could he have sold more than a thousand copies nationally?". His answer was, "probably not". I'm sure Wayne will never give out figures on the number of copies sold.
    4. He switches TV stations in which he puts his 30 minute infomertial on Saturday mornings every year. Here's the reason is he isn't getting the desired results? Whether it's WGN, Spike TV or a national cable sports network, it never is enough to make him happy. Unless he gets on ESPN he's not going to make enough money to pay for the outragious price it costs to produce and buy time.
    5. He doesn't even bet the games he gives to his clients. Once in an interview he even admitted it. Whay would anyone in their right mind pay someone for selections they didn't feel strongly enough to bet? They would have to be a moron and be totally new to betting or using a tout.
    Wayne Root is a pathological liar who loved himself. He's not an idiot and can sell a deal and make things happen for a while. I think eventually his company will crumble and he will try to move on to something else. Anyone who buys his stock should have their head examined. It's at .04 cents for a reason. It could be delisted any day now.
    -Ex Wayne Root employee
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    source: gambling911.com


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    John is this really his house and were you ever in it?

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    Does anyone remember the handicapping show on the USA Network in the 80's where Root would have his "Doesn't make sense bet".....if it doesn't make sense, don't bet it. He would sell himself on that show. Feist was my favorite. Root seemed unknowledgable

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    Quote Originally Posted by will2survive View Post
    Does anyone remember the handicapping show on the USA Network in the 80's where Root would have his "Doesn't make sense bet".....if it doesn't make sense, don't bet it. He would sell himself on that show. Feist was my favorite. Root seemed unknowledgable
    wasnt he one of the anchors on scoreline I think that is what the show was called

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