[Roadtrip635]

Seriously guys, this was posted twice just right above you.

Thanks Shari, I read it and sent Lou a PM.

[shari91]

Thanks Shari, I read it and sent Lou a PM.

good stuff

[Cookie Monster]

I guess the question that bother us, non-americans is: In the next month shall we be able to buy freeplays from BetJamaica, Sportbet, etc., or they will be discontinued for everyone? (too much for "business as usual")

We need the answer quickly, so to decide the action course. If they will be discontinued for everyone we may prefer to cash out now; if they will be available for us, there is no hurry and we may better wait for the new extra offers (Pinny!) to decide. I asked this yesterday, but no answer

[chachi]

Prob is cookie monster I dont think they have a crystal ball

They basically need to graft in geocoding logic into the store like the OpenX software gives them for banner control ...

[saintjames]

i guess that maybe we americans should also not deposit real cash into any sportsbook since sbr thinks using our points would be dangerous

[zert]

Shoot I wished I would have saw this thread last night. Been away acouple of days. This sucks

[Boner_18]

Chachi is right cookie. I think your best bet is to take the conservative approach and assume the worst.

[chachi]

i guess that maybe we americans should also not deposit real cash into any sportsbook since sbr thinks using our points would be dangerous

saint - are you really that thick? SBR should not do anything which in any way puts itself at risk of seizure, legal action, etc ...

If you want to bitch, ring your congressman and representatives, SBR is only being forced to play by the rules the Fed has laid out ...

[Cookie Monster]

Prob is cookie monster I dont think they have a crystal ball

They basically need to graft in geocoding logic into the store like the OpenX software gives them for banner control ...

Chachi is right cookie. I think your best bet is to take the conservative approach and assume the worst.

Thanks for your answers. I asked the question assuming it is only and SBR decision to suspend offering these freeplays, as the sportsbooks are still willing to accept deposits. However, looks like there is more.

On one side they have to be sure of the legal side. If there is even an small risk of non-US players causing a problem for buying freeplays, SBR may decide to cut off us too.

Even if they see no problem, they would have to tune the SBR store, assuring no US players will go through the cracks. And that may take time. Or they may cancel any US-facing book, and offer only freeplays at Pinny, Bet365, etc.

I just chatted with Sam, and he said everything is on hold until they work out all the details. He said that non-US players should not be too concerned, but of course there is nothing sure.

Really though decision, as non-americans have little value for the points besides freeplays. We cannot order pizza On the other hand, buying many freeplays at the same time is a rollover nightmare. So, I think I will cash out some of my points and keep the rest. I hope I do not end regretting it.

[saintjames]

saint - are you really that thick? SBR should not do anything which in any way puts itself at risk of seizure, legal action, etc ... If you want to bitch, ring your congressman and representatives, SBR is only being forced to play by the rules the Fed has laid out ...

sbr is not an american financial institution so they can dish out cash & freeplays to win free cash just like centsports and freesportsbet gives you free bets to win free cash because according to the law "IT IS LEGAL TO WIN MONEY AS LONG AS YOU ARE NOT RISKING ANY MONEY" and get real chachi if all the billions of letters to all the politicians have not helped by now then its not gonna help anytime soon...wake up and smell the socialism

[chachi]

Saint - SBR's fulfillment is performed from within the US borders, hence anything remotely connected with a pseudo-currency which can be exchanged for betting is verboten, capice?.

And I know the facetiousness of my 'ring your congressman' remark, US politics are a part of why I've not lived there for quite awhile now.

[rufflesmuncher]

wish they would just leave things as they are... sux that everything is slowly fading

[chilidog]

Don't bitch to SBR about the way the industry is going. Bitch to your congressmen about why he thinks he knows what is best for you. You guys are the ones that elect these people who are keeping it illegal for you to gamble. Bitch to those people, or vote them out. You voted them in.

[Roadtrip635]

Hmmmm

I PM'ed Lou this morning but still haven't heard back about the last call for orders.

[shari91]

Hmmmm I PM'ed Lou this morning but still haven't heard back about the last call for orders.

Give him a couple more hours. He's currently offline at the moment.

[mighty maron]

Don't bitch to SBR about the way the industry is going. Bitch to your congressmen about why he thinks he knows what is best for you. You guys are the ones that elect these people who are keeping it illegal for you to gamble. Bitch to those people, or vote them out. You voted them in.

both parties do this. The republicans attached UIGEA to the safe port act. Obama and the dems had complete control for 2 years and did nothing. This current round of crackdowns happened under Obama. Just wish the govt would determine what their cut would be and get it over with

[Gio21]

Anyone talk to Lou about getting the freeplay today? I sent him a PM hours ago and havent heard back yet

[Richkas]

if you reload in a sportsbook in light of whats happened the last couple weeks your a idiot

[Deuce]

I thought today was THE LAST DAY to purchase them? WTF did I miss?

[Richkas]

I thought today was THE LAST DAY to purchase them? WTF did I miss?

They werent available yesterday.

[yisman]

They were. They got removed so they were not available today, though.

[BobHarvey]

Good move SBR

Lets post up at fukkin books men

Like Billy said points are not going anywhere

[tblues2005]

When is the gift cards going to be available now Mods?? A few weeks from now?

[blackbart]

so are we getting some new stuff to buy

[Roadtrip635]

Anyone talk to Lou about getting the freeplay today? I sent him a PM hours ago and havent heard back yet

I PM'ed him this morning and followed up a few hours ago and never heard back.

[clarkd32]

i wouldn't mind being able to use points to get free pp's from drf or something like that... if you are looking for new idea's of things to add to the sbr store..

[refrain87]

im fine with this. nothing wrong with winning other things at the store. rather have sbr still be up and running rather than them dealing with lawsuits.

[Roadtrip635]

i wouldn't mind being able to use points to get free pp's from drf or something like that... if you are looking for new idea's of things to add to the sbr store..

I like that idea, but prefer Brisnet PP's.

[stuntin909]

i have 3k points but am not a pro because I already have an account in the books i'm interested/trust in. any alternatives for me to go pro? i'm itching to buy me something from the sbr store.

[chachi]

Unfortunately for you, not at present, no.

[excel]

At least we can buy other things.

[sweetjones55]

Don't want to go through ten pages. But did any higher up from SBR explain WHY they did this?

[biggamer3]

Wasn't this supposed to be temporary until sbr got some legal council?

[SprayBoy]

Feel bad for all ya yanks, government is being a little excessive. gamblers always welcome in canada

[mikeanite]

As of May 30th, 2011, hopefully only temporarily, US based posters will not be offered sportsbook credits, or freeplay bonuses from the SBR Store. SBR will still allow non-US citizens to purchase sportsbook offered free plays and cash promotions. We have hired new legal council to advise us on if allowing US citizens to use loyalty points to purchase these type of products violates any portion of the new laws. We do not think it does but want to be sure. Hopefully they will be back on the shelves soon.

what new law are you talking about?