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    Wallco's Chase 110

    I'm starting a new thread for Wallco's Chase 110 NBA system for now until Wallco is back from dealing with his personal life. I'll try to do my best to update daily and please correct me if I made mistake or I missed something. I really love this system so here we go...

    Wallco Chase 110 – Official Rules

    Find a team that has lost three consecutive games (both S/U and ATS). Play a four game chase on that team to win (A) (B) (C) or (D). If a team is a favorite in any of the games, play the M/L, if the team is a dog in any of the games play the point line (-110). WE DO NOT BUY POINTS IN THIS SYSTEM and we do not care if teams were favorites or dogs in the games before the four game chase starts. The only time we would buy points is if your team is a favorite by 1-3 points, and buying down to -1/2 is cheaper than the M/L. Other than that, we are always playing M/L and (-110). I use ScoresandOdds.com as official play site. If ScoresAndOdds.com has the game listed as a win, then the series is over. You may have had a different line then them and lost the game, if this is the case, the decision is yours whether or not to continue, but the game will be deemed a win at that point. ALL PUSHES ARE SEEN AS A NO-PLAY. We will treat those games as if they were never played and just skip them. So if your (B) bet is a push, your next bet will be a (B) bet. This system has not been back tested for pre-season or playoffs, this is for regular season only.


    Bet Structure (for 4 game chase)

    Chase 110 is definitely profitable. For each series loss in a four game chase @ (-110), you need 18.44 series wins to be even.) In a chase system, assuming your initial wager is 1 unit, if you lose your (A) bet, your (B) bet will be your losses of (A) bet + 1 unit. So if (B) wins, your profit will be 1 unit. Same for (C) and (D). Recoup all previous losses + 1 unit. Any time a series wins, you will have profited 1 unit. So, for example, if my system is 70-0, I would be up 70 units, it can't be more than that, because our game odds are always (-110) or lower, unless you are risking more than one unit per bet. If you lose four consecutive bets: (A) (B) (C) and (D), you cumulative loss will be 18.44 units (assuming all four games were played at (-110) and betting to win one unit, slightly more if there was a M/L in one of the games). Another thing, if (A) (B) (C) or (D) wins, the series is over at that point, and system gets a win, the remaining games in the series do not get played. Here are four examples, winning the (A) bet is obvious, so I will skip that one:

    Unit size = $100

    Win (B) bet
    (A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
    (B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Win (+210)
    Net result: 210 -110 = +100 (+1 unit)

    Win (C) bet
    (A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
    (B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
    (C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Win (+441)
    Net result: 441 - 231 - 110 = +100 (+1 unit)

    Win (D) bet
    (A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
    (B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
    (C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Loss (-485)
    (D) - Risk 1018 to win 926 - Win (+926)
    Net result: 926 - 485 - 231 - 110 = +100 (+1 unit)

    Lose (D) bet (series loss)
    (A) - Risk 110 to win 100 - Loss (-110)
    (B) - Risk 231 to win 210 - Loss (-231)
    (C) - Risk 485 to win 441 - Loss (-485)
    (D) - Risk 1018 to win 926 - Loss (-1018)
    Net result: -1018 - 485 - 231 - 110 = -1844 (-18.44 units)

    ** Note: These bet structures are based on all games being played at -110 odds. Amounts could be a lot larger if M/L losses are in the mix.

    Series Filters

    Head to Head Filter: If a team loses three straight games (ATS and S/U), check that team’s schedule to see who their next four opponents are. If one of these teams is a team that is already being played in Chase 110, skip wagering on the new team until the first team has concluded their series. This is to avoid possibly betting on both sides of a game deep in a series (B-D bets). If at that point, the new team has continued their losing streak, you may then pick up your (A) bet on that team, and begin your four game chase. If two teams qualify at the same time, and are scheduled to play each other at some point in their next four games, the team whose potential four game chase would end sooner will be the play. However, if these two teams are scheduled to face each other in their respective (A) bets, this game will be played, taking the (M/L) on the favorite and (-110) on underdog. There is a chance you can win both ends of the bet, and no chance you can lose both, since one team will win. The risk/reward only seems favorable when teams are facing each other in their (A) bets, all other scenarios are just too risky. You may play all teams that qualify, regardless of who their next four opponents are and just take your chances. However, this isn’t recommended. This filter was created to eliminate a possible (D) bet disaster. The wins and losses for the season will be calculated using this filter.

    When to play: Chase 110 will be played from day 1 of regular season. As the season winds down, when a team qualifies for a play (three losses ATS and S/U), make sure that team has at least four games remaining on their schedule. If not, that team doesn’t qualify. Results were based on a four game chase, so less than four games to play would lessen your chances of victory. Basic rule of thumb, if the losing streak starts in the last six games of a season, there is no way that team will qualify. If some pushes occur, it may go back a few more games.

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    Wallco Chase 110 System History (2003-2015)

    Live play on SBR started in the 2010-11 season

    2014-15 (81-0)
    (A) 31-50
    (B) 29-21
    (C) 16-5
    (D) 5-0
    Total profit: +81.00 units

    2013-14 (85-5*)
    (A) 52-38* (Final loss taken after (A) bet)
    (B) 20-17
    (C) 9-8
    (D) 4-4
    Total Profit : +7.33 units


    2012-13 (79-3)
    (A) 45-37
    (B) 20-17
    (C) 10-7
    (D) 5-5
    Total loss : -1.75 units


    2011-12 (75-5) **Strike shortened season**
    (A) 46-31
    (B) 11-20
    (C) 10-10
    (D) 5-5
    Total loss : -20.63 units

    2010-11 (85-0)
    (A) 47-38
    (B) 23-15
    (C) 9-6
    (D) 6-0
    Total profit : +85.00 units


    2009-10 (88-4)
    (A) 63-29
    (B) 11-18
    (C) 10-8
    (D) 4-4
    Total profit : +11.50 units


    2008-09 (86-6) THE BAD SEASON.Three losses involving large M/L.
    (A) 48-44
    (B) 20-24
    (C) 13-11
    (D) 5-6 (four of these won on next bet, too risky to play).
    Total loss : -51.16 units

    2007-2008 (86-3)
    (A) 58-31
    (B) 18-13
    (C) 6-7
    (D) 4-3
    Total Profit : +30.00 units


    2006-07 (101-1)
    (A) 64-39
    (B) 23-16
    (C) 11-5
    (D) 4-1
    Total Profit : +77.25 units


    2005-06 (92-3)
    (A) 61-34
    (B) 17-17
    (C) 10-7
    (D) 4-3
    Total Profit : +26.08 units


    2004-05 (80-3)
    (A) 56-27
    (B) 10-17
    (C) 7-10
    (D) 7-3
    Total Profit : +22.50 units


    2003-04 (92-4)
    (A) 48-48
    (B) 30-18
    (C) 10-8
    (D) 4-4
    Total Profit : +14.53 units


    Grand Total: +281.65 units (+23.47 units/season)

    System created by Wallco99
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    Are you back posting Wallco??

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyscrapers View Post
    Are you back posting Wallco??
    No, not yet. Still aching considerably and can't sit at computer for long stretches. Thanks for holding down the fort until I can make it back, I appreciate it. Feel free to PM me any questions along the way if you have them. And if you come up with a better plan for the large M/L games then I am all ears. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wallco99 View Post
    No, not yet. Still aching considerably and can't sit at computer for long stretches. Thanks for holding down the fort until I can make it back, I appreciate it. Feel free to PM me any questions along the way if you have them. And if you come up with a better plan for the large M/L games then I am all ears. LOL.
    No problemo. I'll try to hold down the fort as best as I can error-free. Now just anxiously waiting for a team to lose 3 games S/U & ATS so we can get started...

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    @skyscrapers
    are you gonna post the chases?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miczz14 View Post
    @skyscrapers
    are you gonna post the chases?
    Yes I will be posting in absence of Wallco.
    If either IND, NO and/or BKN loses the game and ATS Saturday then we will have our first play or plays of the season.
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    2 teams qualified tonight. We begin chase on next game of IND & NO. Will post officially when the time comes
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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2015-16 System to Date: 0-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +0.00 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0 (-0.00 units)


    (A) 0-0
    (B) 0-0

    (C) 0-0
    (D) 0-0
    Losses: None


    Games for (11/2/15):
    #1 Milwaukee (M/L) @ Brooklyn (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
    #2 Oklahoma City @ Houston (+4.5) (A) (8:05 pm EDT)

    #3 Indiana Begins (A) on 11/3/15
    #4 New Orleans Begins (A) on 11/3/15
    #5 L.A. Lakers Begins (A) on 11/3/15


    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-˝) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
    Last edited by skyscrapers; 11-02-15 at 06:34 PM. Reason: updated lines
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    Always good to start the season off with a win!! Thank you Bucks!! Now hold on you Rockets.

    Wallco, this just crossed my mind. Instead of playing the M/L on favorites, have you considered buying 3-pts on the spread? Wondering if that would work or not?

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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2015-16 System to Date: 2-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +2.00 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 0 (-0.00 units)

    (11/2/15):
    #1 Milwaukee (M/L) (A) - Win
    #2 Houston (+4˝) (A) -Win

    (A) 2-0
    (B) 0-0

    (C) 0-0
    (D) 0-0
    Losses: None



    Games for (11/3/15):
    #3 Indiana (+4.5) @ Detroit (A) (7:35 pm EDT)
    #4 Orlando @ New Orleans (M/L) (A) (8:05 pm EDT)
    #5 Denver @ L.A. Lakers (M/L) (A) (10:35 pm EDT)


    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-˝) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
    Last edited by skyscrapers; 11-03-15 at 02:56 PM. Reason: updated lines
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    Lakers are not trusted always , I was leaning Denver but no play for me here . GL

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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2015-16 System to Date: 3-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +3.00 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 2 (-3.40 units)

    (11/3/15):
    #3 Indiana (+4˝) (A) - Win
    #4 New Orleans (M/L) (A) - Loss (-2.10 units)
    #5 L.A. Lakers (M/L) (A) - Loss (-1.30 units)

    (A) 3-2
    (B) 0-0

    (C) 0-0
    (D) 0-0
    Losses: None


    There are no system plays for (11/4/15):
    #4 Resumes (B) on 11/6/15
    #5 Resumes (B) on 11/6/15


    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-˝) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
    Last edited by skyscrapers; 11-04-15 at 03:17 AM.

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    lakers let us down

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    Quote Originally Posted by jcygts6 View Post
    lakers let us down
    Sad to see a once great franchise with great players in such a disrepaired state. Sad to see Kobe who once was a great player now unable to even put up a decent shot who should have retired end of last season. They will be bad for the foreseeable future.

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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2015-16 System to Date: 3-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +3.00 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 2 (-3.40 units)


    (A) 3-2
    (B) 0-0

    (C) 0-0
    (D) 0-0
    Losses: None


    There are no system plays for (11/5/15):
    #4 Resumes (B) on 11/6/15
    #5 Resumes (B) on 11/6/15
    #6 Boston Begins (A) on 11/6/15

    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-˝) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
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    Wallco NBA Chase 110
    2015-16 System to Date: 3-0 (fin. series)
    System Profit/Loss: +3.00 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 2 (-3.40 units)


    (A) 3-2
    (B) 0-0

    (C) 0-0
    (D) 0-0
    Losses: None


    Games for (11/6/15):
    #4 Atlanta @ New Orleans (+2.5) (B) (8:00 pm EDT)
    #5 L.A. Lakers (+3) @ Brooklyn (B) (7:30 pm EDT)
    #6 Washington @ Boston (M/L) (A) (7:30 pm EDT)

    #?? Oklahoma City Begins (A) on 11/8/15

    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-˝) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
    Last edited by skyscrapers; 11-06-15 at 06:25 PM. Reason: updated lines
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    Both the Lakers and the Pelicans are the worst ATS in the NBA and it's showing. Both will be (0-5) after tonight if they don't cover. I believe the Lakers will be (0-9) dating back to last season's end.

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    System Profit/Loss: +5.00 units (fin. series)
    Current Open Series: 1 (-5.50 units)


    (11/6/15):
    #4 New Orleans (+2.5) (B) - Loss (-3.40 units)
    #5 L.A. Lakers (+3) (B) - Win
    #6 Boston (M/L) (A) - Win


    (A) 4-2
    (B) 1-1

    (C) 0-0
    (D) 0-0
    Losses: None


    Games for (11/7/15):
    #4 New Orleans (+5.5) @ Dallas (C) (8:35 pm EDT)
    #7
    Brooklyn (+6.5) @ Milwaukee (A) (8:35 pm EDT)
    #7
    Golden State @ Sacramento (+13.5) (A) (10:05 pm EDT)

    #8 Oklahoma City Begins (A) on 11/8/15

    Note: The lines I have listed were the current lines at the time of my post and may not reflect the final lines used to determine wins & losses, or line changes later in the day. Get proper line if different than the one I have posted, based on the criteria that I have listed below.

    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-˝) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day if the lines do change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
    Last edited by skyscrapers; 11-07-15 at 08:37 PM. Reason: updated lines...BKN no play
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    Although Brooklyn plays Sacto in Brooklyn's (D) bet if it gets there, Sacto would have cleared it's chase already since Sacto plays Brooklyn in Sacto's 5th game so both chases will go ahead. Anyone or Wallco please correct me if I'm wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by skyscrapers View Post
    Although Brooklyn plays Sacto in Brooklyn's (D) bet if it gets there, Sacto would have cleared it's chase already since Sacto plays Brooklyn in Sacto's 5th game so both chases will go ahead. Anyone or Wallco please correct me if I'm wrong.
    Correct

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    NO plays tonight too, correct?

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    do we really think sac covers the spread? plus they play san Antonio next. Not criticizing just looking for input on whether I should bet the first 2 games till it gets past those 2 losses?

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    I'm much more worried about NO not covering than SAC at the moment.

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