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  • Alt75
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    • 07-02-10
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    #176
    Glad you like our game.

    Regarding the scoring it's all over the place, basketball at pro level you don't get the variation in scoring for each quarter as you do in AFL, depending on matchups across the field, sides can be shutdown and kept scoreless for a quarter or even a half, odd occasion nearly the entire game and a side can go from kicking 2-3 goals a quarter and then kick 10-12 in one. Playing stats on their own isn't very wise in AFL, you need to watch/follow the games and understand how teams matchup, play at certain grounds/interstate, this was Geelongs second game on the road, last week was 2500km away in Western Aus, also if they're playing on a shorter week, injuries.

    Also despite some sides being far greater as far as skill of players on the list and record for the season, like with all sports it's never a sure thing a $1.10 fave will win SU let alone in AFL cover a large spread like -39.5. Less skilled teams can still chase and tackle hard and slow other teams from scoring and the coaches can have a negative/defensive mindset and flood the backline with extra players. By stats Geelong should have won by around 80 points. Lions are a young side but with teams like that doing poorly for the season, when their players are playing for a spot on the team next year and not to be cut they can lift and play beyond themselves.
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    • Lookingtostart
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      • 04-25-11
      • 1584

      #177
      Well said Alt75, I would also like to add that no one knows what the rules are, they change every week.

      After watching the Geelong/Lions game, I'm suspicious that that game was fixed, a lot of people are saying that about the Swans/Dockers game as well. I don't support either team and I didn't have money on them.

      Perhaps it's the AFL that should be investigated for match fixing and not some player who puts $20 on a game.
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      • Alt75
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        #178
        Cheers LTS.

        haha yeah there's also the umpires interpretation of the rules, which to an unfamiliar viewer can seem strange when they pay a free one way and then not for the other team for pretty much the same indiscretion and the very fine line with "prior opportunity". To their credit they are running their asses off keeping up with the game.

        No chance AFL are fixing games, while it would probably be a good troll for bigfooty to wind up Collingwood supporters ie: only reason they're winning is cause of Demetriou's match fixing. Too much to risk and the game is too chaotic for one umpire to constantly have an effect on, sure some bad calls may disrupt a teams flow and can end up possibly changing the result, too many bad decisions by an ump and he's back to VFL/TAC though. I wasn't paying too much attention to the Lions V Cats on delay, didn't see Swans Dockers so not sure what you mean?
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        • binomial
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          • 08-02-10
          • 507

          #179
          i thought the umpiring was worse than usual this week in general. thought west coast got hosed pretty badly pretty early on.

          wouldn't be easy though.
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          • Alt75
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            #180
            I had Eagles Saints on the radio, sounded more like the Eagles just started flat and got hustled than bad umpiring. Might watch it to see for myself.

            What are your thoughts on NRL tonight?

            Leaning Dragons & under or ht/ft, not sure about margin or line. Dragons have won 4 1-12 & 7 13+. Cronulla lost 4 1-12 & 5 13+
            Cronulla have improved lately but against a fired up Dragons seeking revenge for the loss in rd 2 it could get ugly if Dragons play at their best.
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            • binomial
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              • 08-02-10
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              #181
              same leans dragons and under.

              if they play defence like the did v manly cant see the sharks scoring too many points. was hoping the total woud be a few points higher though.

              umpires all in love with riewoldt for mine.

              GL.
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              • binomial
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                • 08-02-10
                • 507

                #182
                Got Dragons -7.5 $1.85 at Centrebet.
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                • Alt75
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                  #183
                  Yeah I'm thinking it could resemble the Storm v Raiders with a 24-0/6 or so scoreline.

                  Under 35.5 @ $1.83

                  Dragons -8 @ $1.92

                  No more NRL totals for me.
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                  • brettels
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                    • 11-04-10
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                    #184
                    sorry to interupt but i've gone dragons and over 34.5
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                    • Alt75
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                      #185
                      Not interrupting mate

                      No offence but I hope this goes under, you had a big win on your "tiger traitor" bet
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                      • brettels
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                        #186
                        24-0 at HT looking overs to me
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                        • Alt75
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                          #187
                          Yup, unless the Dragons slow it up and coast home it's likely gonna go over. Hopefully no more than 1 converted try in the next 30 mins.

                          doh, just as I posted that Sharks score again
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                          • brettels
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                            #188
                            woo hoo!

                            im such a sharp
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                            • Alt75
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                              #189
                              Well called man, very nice weekend for you!
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                              • brettels
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                                #190
                                thanks alt, it doesn't happen that often!
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                                • brettels
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                                  • 11-04-10
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                                  #191
                                  NQ cowboys have gone from starting as 2.05 underdogs to 1.85 favourites vs titans at titans home ground. without thurston. maybe the value is with titans, i will only check the total points on this one, not an easy pick for the match winner.
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                                  • Alt75
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                                    • 07-02-10
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                                    #192
                                    Probably gonna stay away from Cowboys v Titans, anything that's too iffy I'm gonna try and lay off of from now on.

                                    AFL
                                    St.Kilda vs Adelaide
                                    Adelaide +37.5 @ $1.91
                                    St Kilida by 103

                                    NRL
                                    Melbourne Storm vs Brisbane Broncos
                                    Melbourne Storm HT/FT @ $2.10
                                    benefit of the ******* doubt try my ass

                                    Live @ HT
                                    Melbourne Storm 1-12 @ $2.05
                                    26-6

                                    Multi @ $12.83 - $1.41 to return 18.09
                                    Melbourne Storm +2.5 $1.42
                                    Hawthorn -11.5 $1.42
                                    Geelong -33.5 $1.42
                                    North Melbourne -24.5 $1.42
                                    Adelaide +48.5 $1.42
                                    St George Dragons ML $1.44
                                    Manly Sea Eagles ML $1.44
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                                    • binomial
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                                      • 08-02-10
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                                      #193
                                      GL

                                      played SK 1-39 $2.30 myself.

                                      what about bulldogs v para tonight? thinking of playing para 1-12. cant see alot of points in either and conditions sort of suit them.
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                                      • Alt75
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                                        #194
                                        Cheers you too, both should hit. I was gonna take the 1-39 myself but remembered the + gives me an out for an upset, Adelaide haven't been too bad and I think it should be within a few goals rather closer to 6-7 goals.

                                        I'm not really keen on that game I know it's been shitty weather wise in Sydney lately I considered the under but it's too low and have done terrible with NRL totals lately and even in poor conditions, sides without solid defence and that don't show up 100% for the whole game can still put up large scores against each other. If I was on either side I'd just play the ML. Bulldogs don't show up again and it may get ugly, if they snap back into top form Parra get blown out. They both play like the bottom to middle of pack sides they have been lately, anything can happen.
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                                        • binomial
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                                          • 08-02-10
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                                          #195
                                          sportsalive put up under 32 $2 so i took that. not sure if it is a smart bet, the stadium seems to shape up pretty well however much it rains.

                                          your right anything could happen.

                                          took under in the storm game as well.
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                                          • Alt75
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                                            #196
                                            It was 29.5 on sportingbet earlier, now 31.5
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                                            • Alt75
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                                              #197
                                              AFL

                                              North Melbourne vs Brisbane Lions Under 194.5 @ $1.90
                                              Total = 199

                                              Collingwood vs Gold Coast

                                              Collingwood 1Q -18.5 @ $1.92
                                              Collingwood -77.5 @ $1.92
                                              Over 194.5 @ $1.90

                                              Essendon vs Carlton
                                              Essendon ML @ $3.05

                                              Essendon +16.5/Over 187.5 & Collingwood v Suns Over 194.5 @ $6.95
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                                              • Alt75
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                                                #198
                                                Fremantle vs West Coast Under 179.5 @ 1.90

                                                Fremantle ML @ $2.75
                                                Eagles by 1 point
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                                                • Alt75
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                                                  #199
                                                  Dragons & Under 36.5 @ $2.50
                                                  Dragons -4.5 @ $1.70
                                                  Canberra 24-19
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                                                  • binomial
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 08-02-10
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                                                    #200
                                                    ouch on the freo bet.

                                                    GL tonight like that line and price on the second bet.
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                                                    • Alt75
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                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by binomial
                                                      ouch on the freo bet.

                                                      GL tonight like that line and price on the second bet.
                                                      Cheers, that was a sportsbet pyol, the sportingbet alternate lines are crap.
                                                      What are you playing tonight?

                                                      Yeah, yesterday was a bitch. My leans were Cats/Hawks/Freo to cover, was up late watching some movies/tv eps didn't put any bets on Saturday night, slept in till mid arvo, missed closing on the earlier games and just went with the total & ml on WC v Freo. New Zealand to cover -3 and Manly SU I missed on too. Didn't even put any min stake multi's of my leans for the days games as I usually do. Would have been a decent day overall.
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                                                      • binomial
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                                                        • 08-02-10
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                                                        #202
                                                        played st george unfortunately. thought they would have been better trying to fix up their poor record against them but they put in a sloppy effort.

                                                        was on all those afl spreads (still had a bad round but), but probably would rather have slept until the afternoon haven't done that for a while.

                                                        had a fair size bet on manly -6 which lost on the meaningless late score which prevented it being a big day.
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                                                        • Alt75
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                                                          #203
                                                          Carlton 1-39 @ $2.25

                                                          Manly 1-12 @ $3.10

                                                          Brisbane -12.5 @ $1.92

                                                          3 singles and multi'd at $13.05

                                                          Brisbane Broncos HT/NT/Manly ML @ $2.10
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                                                          • Alt75
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                                                            #204
                                                            Geelong vs Melbourne
                                                            Melbourne +45.5
                                                            Under 190.5
                                                            Geelong by 186
                                                            233-46

                                                            Western Bulldogs vs West Coast
                                                            West Coast -8.5
                                                            Under 183.5
                                                            West Coast by 8
                                                            103-95

                                                            St.Kilda vs Gold Coast
                                                            St Kilda -41.5
                                                            Over 180.5
                                                            St.Kilda by 20
                                                            74-54


                                                            Fremantle vs Hawthorn
                                                            Fremantle +13.5
                                                            Under 190.5
                                                            opened at 199.5 now 165.5
                                                            Hawthorn by 51
                                                            95-54

                                                            8 singles $1.57 @ $1.90 to return $3 apiece - $12.56 to return $24
                                                            8 x @ $176.44 .25 to return $43.86

                                                            Live
                                                            Geelong 3Q -18.5 $10 @ $1.85

                                                            LOL 2 from 9
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                                                            • Alt75
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                                                              #205
                                                              MMA - Strikeforce

                                                              Fedor Emelianenko vs Dan Henderson
                                                              Fedor Emelianenko wins inside the distance $5 @ $1.95
                                                              Hendo wins by TKO MMA is almost dead to me now.

                                                              Robbie Lawler vs Tim Kennedy
                                                              Robbie Lawler $2 @ $3.05
                                                              Kennedy by decision

                                                              Paul Daley vs Tyron Woodley
                                                              Paul Daley $2 @ $3.25
                                                              Woodley by decision

                                                              Scott Smith vs Tarec Saffiedine
                                                              Scott Smith $2 @ $3.50
                                                              Tarec Saffiedine by decision

                                                              Miesha Tate vs Marloes Coenen
                                                              Miesha Tate wins inside the distance $2 @ $3.00

                                                              Multibet @ $79.98 $.29 to return $22.62
                                                              Fedor Emelianenko 1.33
                                                              Miesha Tate 1.86
                                                              Robbie Lawler 3.00
                                                              Paul Daley 3.25
                                                              Scott Smith 3.25


                                                              Patent @ $10.78 - $1.75 to return $17.13
                                                              Robbie Lawler 3.00
                                                              Paul Daley 3.25
                                                              Scott Smith 3.25


                                                              AFL
                                                              Essendon +46.5 $3 @ $1.92

                                                              NRL
                                                              New Zealand vs Canberra
                                                              New Zealand 1-12 $2 @ $3.10
                                                              Warriors 29-10

                                                              Newcastle vs Gold Coast
                                                              Newcastle 1-12 $2 @ $3.00

                                                              St George vs South Sydney
                                                              St George -12.5 $3 @ $1.72

                                                              Multibet $2.26 @ $3.65
                                                              Essendon @ $1.25 (+71.5)
                                                              St George Illawarra Dragons @ $1.25 (-3.5)
                                                              New Zealand Warriors @ $1.31 (+3.5)
                                                              Newcastle Knights @ $1.31 (-1.5)
                                                              Fedor Emelianenko @ $1.36

                                                              Multibet @ $113.76 - $.25 to return $28.19
                                                              Fedor Emelianenko 1.33
                                                              St George -12.5 @ $1.72
                                                              Newcastle 1-12 @ $3.00
                                                              New Zealand 1-12 @ $2.87
                                                              Essendon +47.5 @ $1.90
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                                                              • binomial
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                                                                • 08-02-10
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                                                                #206
                                                                GL.

                                                                took Collingwood myself. essendon's defence is looking v weak to me and my guess is collingwood pile it on.
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                                                                • Mirar Baseball
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                                                                  • 04-05-10
                                                                  • 1263

                                                                  #207
                                                                  Miesha Tate vs Marloes Coenen
                                                                  Miesha Tate wins inside the distance $2 @ $3.00

                                                                  took that one; thanks!
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                                                                  • Alt75
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                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by Mirar Baseball
                                                                    Miesha Tate vs Marloes Coenen
                                                                    Miesha Tate wins inside the distance $2 @ $3.00

                                                                    took that one; thanks!
                                                                    Good job, you picked the only one I got right.
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                                                                    • Gee
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                                                                      • 04-08-10
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                                                                      #209
                                                                      Miesha tate is so damn sexy.

                                                                      I really enjoyed her fight.

                                                                      I had her as well Daley was the only one i got wrong Had Hendo, Daley, Saffa, Kennedy and Tate.
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                                                                      • Alt75
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                                                                        #210
                                                                        Originally posted by Gee
                                                                        Miesha tate is so damn sexy.

                                                                        I really enjoyed her fight.

                                                                        I had her as well Daley was the only one i got wrong Had Hendo, Daley, Saffa, Kennedy and Tate.
                                                                        Nice stuff. As you can see I had a stinker of a weekend. Only to be capped off with being crook from a prawn curry, that was purchased to console my shitty betting effort. Fortunately I was too ill to care about the Storm game last night. I probably would have gone with the line instead of the 1-12 or Parra +

                                                                        I was hoping for all the dog's to get KO's, well obviously aside Hendo. Though they were all capable of getting the finish I thought Smith would out experience Saffa, I was most confident on Lawler catching Kennedy. Daley deep down I knew would probably get outwrestled but still took a shot. Can never bet against Fedor as much as both are legends and I like both somewhat equally, the Hendo to finish prop was pretty nice at like $5.25. Even if I'd gone all in on that I'd have felt like shit, same as betting on Leben against Wand. When it comes down to established skill from what they have shown in the history of the sport I saw them as square UFC fanboy douchebag bets, even though some stats may be in the dogs favour. Fedor and Wand have been caught numerous times now from being reckless so I won't be touching either in the future if they don't retire. I don't care about the money/% loss or being wrong in this instance, the fact Dana White thinks he's right and all the pimply yank UFC trend following cunts who disrespect non UFC fighters get to gloat about how they were right all along about Fedor/Pride, USA/UFC #1 etc is Collingwood winning the Grand Final of MMA for every season. No wonder I had an upset stomach and the runs.

                                                                        I just didn't see that happening, sure Hendo can hit hard but he caught Feijao and Bisping and he was gonna catch a guy with footwork and head movement/ability to slip punches like Fedor? About as likely as Souths beating Dragons or Essendon beating Geelong aye.

                                                                        Fedor had been training with Denis Lebedev was looking really sharp slimmed down a bit. On paper Fedor should have obliterated him, taking out the factor of a larger blackbelt. His recklessness going for the finish caught up with him again and he got caught in a bad position and clipped, sad to see the GOAT go down like that. Fedors loss to Werdum was similar in nature, and he got controlled and beat up by Bigfoot, which when skill is relatively equal size and strength comes into play, especially in grappling, while it looked bad from the eye damage how he was able to survive being fullmounted and pummelled for so long by a 285lb legit BB and still only lose by doctors stoppage was testament to how good his chin and heart is.

                                                                        On a positive note whenever Miesha is in side control with her ass up I get this hankering for some fish taco. Marloes is damn hot too.
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