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    I think i can prove a casino is rigged

    Overall i have been good staying out of casinos once i pass $2000 . A lot are blocked . But i went into one and after a sports win got to Over $1400 + . Then i went in casino . And yes i lost it all .

    But here is the thing. I noticed something that i started calling if i would win or lose before the cards were actually turned all the way over. Oh this is for BJ

    But before i go and name the book and say what i noticed here is my question to you guys. If the game is supposed to be random but you can call if you would win or lose before the cards are actually turned over would you say that is rigged. Because i can assuming it is the same for everyone. Which to me is saying everything is predetermined before the hand starts meaning it is not random. At least that is what i am thinking.

    I also did not want to name the book in the title so they do not go and change anything. If you guys think that if you can determine what the cards are before the cards are turned over as cheating i will tell you what i noticed and the book. And this is almost 100% of the times i can call it.

    Actually i will say the book i just will not say what i noticed yet until i see what you guys think on my previous question. The book is Wagerweb. And if some of you have this book i will ask you to go in there after i tell you what i noticed and see if what i found out happens to you. IOW after i tell you this you should be able to determine the outcome of the round before the cards are all turned over. And no i have never seen this to this obvious extent as i did in this book.
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    I agree casinos are rigged but you sound a little nuts right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    I agree casinos are rigged but you sound a little nuts right now.
    Ok so back to my original question. If i can show you how you can know what the result of a BJ hand will be before the cards even turn over every round of BJ would you say that is proof enough of being rigged. If you go on Wagerweb and the first choice online casino then American BJ i can tell you what to look for that shows you if you will win or lose before the cards are all turned over. I have seen this on some sites before but not this extreme and obvious. IDK if it will do it if you play for fun though you have to play for real.

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    Is this the live dealer blackjack or the software? You should never be playing the software casino at any place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    Is this the live dealer blackjack or the software? You should never be playing the software casino at any place.
    Software and i do not play it as much as i used to since they are all pretty much rigged . Justbet ,Youwager.Betpop,Jazz ,Bookmaker and others blocked i do play at GTbets i do have luck there . I thought maybe ww would be ok since i really never played there and i won a bet then lost it $1400+ but i have a sort of new years promise to myself if i go over $2000 in a book if the casino is active i block it like at GT.

    But i have never been able to basically call a hand before the cards are even all turned over before i just want to see what others think of this but again back to the original question. If i can show you that you can see if you won or lost before the cards are all even turned over would you say that is proof that it is rigged. Because i believe i can at Wagerweb.

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    I don't think anyone questions the software casino being rigged. It's a bit harder to rig the live casino but it can be done. Just remove most of the tens in the deck and replace them with 5s,6s, and 7s. You won't last more than 2 hours with a deck like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wombat View Post
    I don't think anyone questions the software casino being rigged. It's a bit harder to rig the live casino but it can be done. Just remove most of the tens in the deck and replace them with 5s,6s, and 7s. You won't last more than 2 hours with a deck like that.
    True . But i noticed something else that you can determine if you will win or lose before the cards are all even turned over. That is why a was saying if you can see if you have won or lost already before the cards are all turned over would you consider that definitely rigged and solid proof if you can tell it almost 100% of the time.

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    So i just played my cash back and of course i lost it in the rigged casino but again i knew every hand if i won or lost . So here is what you do. Every time almost you know the results. This is at Wagerweb.

    If you look at when you get your cards the is a way to tell at times if there is a delay of a couple seconds you will a lot of times get a card that equals 20 or 21.

    But here is where you can see the real rigged crap. Watch the dealer when it turns over the cards on its own hands . This is under Online casino then American BJ. The dealer of course has a card showing and a card hidden. Watch the card hidden. If it does this to you like to me you will know every single time if you won or lost BEFORE the card is turned.

    If the card gets turned over instantly after yours are done you lost. EVERY SINGLE TIME. If there is a delay of a couple seconds you either won or pushed EVERY SINGLE TIME.

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    Everyone knows online casinos are rigged.

    This isn't breaking news, robey...

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    Yes but it has never been where i can predict the outcome before the cards are turned and i can here . Noone can actually prove it they will say even though you lose 80% to dealer getting BJ or 20 every hand every time it is just bad luck.

    But if you can go and predict you will win or lose before the cards are all turned this seems like he most solid proof someone can ever have.This proves the cards are preset to win or lose .Not random.

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    Yes but it has never been where i can predict the outcome before the cards are turned and i can here . Noone can actually prove it they will say even though you lose 80% to dealer getting BJ or 20 every hand every time it is just bad luck.

    But if you can go and predict you will win or lose before the cards are all turned this seems like he most solid proof someone can ever have.This proves the cards are preset to win or lose .Not random.
    If the dealer wins 80% of the time, it is not that hard to predict that you will lose the next hand.

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    I think you are missing the point . If you sat next to me and 30 out of 30 hands i predict if i win or lose before the cards are turned over is that enough actual proof the cards are rigged. In most casino games you will be for a little 55-45 going dealers way. Then all of a sudden they always go on a huge run of like 80% where you cannot win and you will never get those 80% runs.

    But if i can call every hand before the cards are turned over every time is that enough to prove a casino is rigged what excuse can they give if someone can call every hand

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    Quote Originally Posted by captrobey View Post
    I think you are missing the point . If you sat next to me and 30 out of 30 hands i predict if i win or lose before the cards are turned over is that enough actual proof the cards are rigged. In most casino games you will be for a little 55-45 going dealers way. Then all of a sudden they always go on a huge run of like 80% where you cannot win and you will never get those 80% runs.

    But if i can call every hand before the cards are turned over every time is that enough to prove a casino is rigged what excuse can they give if someone can call every hand
    Make a video and prove it if you say you can predict 30/30 hands...


    The part where you say it starts about even then the dealer goes on a crazy run, happens to everyone. The dealer also seems to win at a way higher % if you increase the bet size.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    Make a video and prove it if you say you can predict 30/30 hands...


    The part where you say it starts about even then the dealer goes on a crazy run, happens to everyone. The dealer also seems to win at a way higher % if you increase the bet size.
    I will have to try and do that maybe record with my phone. I will need to deposit sometime because i just tried it on for fun mode and it does not do it there.

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    I think I know what your are saying. After you hit stand, the game is completed internally, the visuals are for show. Some places I’ve played, after I hit stand , my balance immediately increases if I won or stays the same if I lost before the cards are revealed. It kinda takes the fun out of it, especially when I lose. I’ve also noticed it when I get a blackjack, my balance will increase before all of the cards are revealed, probably because there is no standing with online blackjack casinos. I have seen some real dumbasses double down a BJ as an 11 in land based casinos before. That’s worse than splitting 10’s.

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