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  • lasker
    SBR MVP
    • 01-27-10
    • 1683

    #316
    You're probably right, the decision prop looks good, but I just wanted the added safety because I think Rampage's heart may quit this time if the going gets bad. If this fight were a few years ago I would agree there was almost no chance of Machida stopping Rampage, but I expect Machida will be as good or better than ever, while Rampage is clearly on the decline in my opinion. Machida is super-motivated and training hard, while I don't think the same can be said of Rampage.

    Also, I expect Rampage to chase Machida, much like Thiago Silva did, and we all know that's a recipe for disaster. All of Rampage's talk about "fighting my fight, not fighting his fight at all" makes me think that in a rash effort to end the frustrating cat-and-mouse game, he's going to overcommit with his aggression and get caught. That in itself may not be enough to end the fight, but once he is rocked anything can happen. For instance, if Jackson gets knocked down I have no doubt that Machida is capable of submitting him from top position. But I think that if Machida wins inside the distance it's likely in the third round when Jackson's cardio and heart are gone, which is why I also like the Machida in the third round prop at +1375.

    Ideally, Machida will submit Rampage in the third round and make me a rich less poor man.
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    • lasker
      SBR MVP
      • 01-27-10
      • 1683

      #317
      Tyson Griffin -205 / Edson Barboza -550 / Lyoto Machida -230, 3-team parlay @+151, 2.65u to win 4u
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      • Poppa Catfish
        SBR MVP
        • 09-22-10
        • 3352

        #318
        I like that one enough to steal it
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        • lasker
          SBR MVP
          • 01-27-10
          • 1683

          #319
          lol, why do I bother including one or two "safe" tennis favs with my mma parlays? They are the ones that always screw me (usually in the challengers league). That's it, I quit betting on tennis, at least until I learn what I'm doing. MMA feels so much easier to cap, anyway.

          It must be a cruel and unforgiving sport when "love" means "nothing" to it. If I keep going down this road I'll end up as jaded as tennis. Good riddance!
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          • lasker
            SBR MVP
            • 01-27-10
            • 1683

            #320
            Adding even more on Machida. Points handicap is exactly what I'm looking for.

            1140 L.Machida points handicap -3½ -130:
            5u to win 3.85u
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            • Playmaker
              SBR Sharp
              • 12-15-08
              • 285

              #321
              I like Machida to win as well...GL
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              • omalley21
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 11-08-10
                • 908

                #322
                Originally posted by lasker
                Adding even more on Machida. Points handicap is exactly what I'm looking for.

                1140 L.Machida points handicap -3½ -130:
                5u to win 3.85u
                So machida wins 30-27 and you lose? I dont like that.
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                • Eccocide
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 2126

                  #323
                  Originally posted by omalley21
                  So machida wins 30-27 and you lose? I dont like that.
                  na, across all 3 judges scorecards. if all 3 score it 29-28 then yes he loses because thats -3. If one judge scores it 30-27, as long as its not a split decision he wins. Smart bet IMO.
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                  • rocky mattioli
                    SBR MVP
                    • 08-26-10
                    • 1263

                    #324
                    you guys aren`t worried about lentz` wrestling cred?(i keep harkening back to the guida match)....griffin all of a sudden has 4 losses...
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                    • lasker
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-27-10
                      • 1683

                      #325
                      Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                      you guys aren`t worried about lentz` wrestling cred?(i keep harkening back to the guida match)....griffin all of a sudden has 4 losses...
                      I remember an interview where Griffin said he was focusing on his wrestling for this fight, that he might get caught but that he would not lose a decision. Griffin is a very good wrestler himself; I'm not sure Lentz is better in that department. And Lentz doesn't have the same aggressiveness or cardio as Guida, so he doesn't pose as many problems imo. Griffin should have the cardio advantage in this fight, and he knows what it takes to win decisions. Griffin's a great scrambler, and I think he'll be fine.
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                      • lasker
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-27-10
                        • 1683

                        #326
                        Originally posted by lasker
                        Justin Wilcox +240: 2u to win 4.8u
                        Glad that I got this before the line dropped.

                        Adding one more play for the Strikeforce Challengers card, just a small parlay:

                        Fodor -345 / Zaromskis -260, 2-team parlay at -128:
                        2u to win 1.56u
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                        • lasker
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-27-10
                          • 1683

                          #327
                          Originally posted by lasker
                          Justin Wilcox +240: 2u to win 4.8u
                          Originally posted by lasker
                          Fodor -345 / Zaromskis -260 , 2-team parlay at -128: 2u to win 1.56u
                          Results from Strikeforce Challengers 12: +5.38u

                          Could have been even better, but Zaromskis/Spiritwolf apparently ended by eye-poke just six seconds into the fight (hence the rolling eyes icon), making it a no-contest! So that bet was canceled, making the parlay a straight bet win on Fodor, who submitted Getzel in the first round.

                          Wilcox was too good a wrestler and kept it on the feet to win a clear-cut decision. I'm getting this from the play-by-play; haven't seen the fights yet. Tonight was just the appetizer... Tomorrow's the big night! GL everyone
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                          • rocky mattioli
                            SBR MVP
                            • 08-26-10
                            • 1263

                            #328
                            Originally posted by lasker
                            Results from Strikeforce Challengers 12: +5.38u

                            Could have been even better, but Zaromskis/Spiritwolf apparently ended by eye-poke just six seconds into the fight (hence the rolling eyes icon), making it a no-contest! So that bet was canceled, making the parlay a straight bet win on Fodor, who submitted Getzel in the first round.

                            Wilcox was too good a wrestler and kept it on the feet to win a clear-cut decision. I'm getting this from the play-by-play; haven't seen the fights yet. Tonight was just the appetizer... Tomorrow's the big night! GL everyone

                            it was very heartening to watch a guy fight a very intelligent fight for a change...wilcox used his wrestling chops to KEEP FROM GOING TO THE MAT.........
                            the guy had excellent stand-up to go along with his wrestling chops and obvious strength.....and he`s savvy........somebody to watch...
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                            • Eccocide
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-12-09
                              • 2126

                              #329
                              Nice job last night and GL tonight Lasker!
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                              • lasker
                                SBR MVP
                                • 01-27-10
                                • 1683

                                #330
                                Late additions. Not a popular play here, but I'm going with Munoz (even though that didn't work out too well for me last time).

                                Munoz -130: 2u to win 1.54u

                                Munoz wins in round 3 +900: 0.5u to win 4.5u
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                                • lasker
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 01-27-10
                                  • 1683

                                  #331
                                  Also adding:

                                  Foster wins by submission +500:
                                  0.5u to win 2.5u
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                                  • lasker
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 01-27-10
                                    • 1683

                                    #332
                                    Davis points handicap -260: 2.6u to win 1u

                                    Harris wins inside distance -130:
                                    2u to win 1.54u

                                    the harris prop is a hedge with my Falcao in round 1 bet earlier.
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                                    • Poppa Catfish
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-22-10
                                      • 3352

                                      #333
                                      Originally posted by lasker
                                      Results from Strikeforce Challengers 12: +5.38u

                                      Could have been even better, but Zaromskis/Spiritwolf apparently ended by eye-poke just six seconds into the fight (hence the rolling eyes icon), making it a no-contest! So that bet was canceled, making the parlay a straight bet win on Fodor, who submitted Getzel in the first round.

                                      Wilcox was too good a wrestler and kept it on the feet to win a clear-cut decision. I'm getting this from the play-by-play; haven't seen the fights yet. Tonight was just the appetizer... Tomorrow's the big night! GL everyone
                                      It was a pathetic performance by Vitor. He got hurt (by a cross if my memory serves me correct) and for the rest of the fight ran away and every once and awhile did a half ass shot that most fighters would have stopped, let alone a wrestling stud like Wilcox. Throw in a little bit of butt scooting and you have the fight.

                                      Excellent call If they fought 100 times, Wilcox would win 100 times.
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                                      • Vaughany
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 03-07-10
                                        • 45563

                                        #334
                                        Originally posted by lasker
                                        Davis points handicap -260: 2.6u to win 1u

                                        Harris wins inside distance -130:
                                        2u to win 1.54u

                                        the harris prop is a hedge with my Falcao in round 1 bet earlier.
                                        Like these, GL tonight Lask
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                                        • lasker
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-27-10
                                          • 1683

                                          #335
                                          Finally no more bets to post here. I've irrationally played a lot of parlays, way too many to post here. Plus many of them are so improbable that I shouldn't wish such reckless waste of money on my worst enemy. Only myself.


                                          BOL everyone, can't wait
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                                          • lasker
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-27-10
                                            • 1683

                                            #336
                                            Originally posted by lasker
                                            Late additions. Not a popular play here, but I'm going with Munoz (even though that didn't work out too well for me last time).
                                            Munoz -130: 2u to win 1.54u
                                            Munoz wins in round 3 +900:
                                            0.5u to win 4.5u
                                            Close fight, but good result. Munoz may have even ended it in the third had Simpson not convinced the ref to call a timeout for getting punched (to be fair, I'm sure he thought it was a finger even though the replay showed it was a knuckle).
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                                            • lasker
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-27-10
                                              • 1683

                                              #337
                                              Originally posted by lasker
                                              Also adding: Foster wins by submission +500: 0.5u to win 2.5u
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                                              • JuicedUp
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-20-10
                                                • 3396

                                                #338
                                                Nice call sir.
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                                                • Brian891
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-28-10
                                                  • 2049

                                                  #339
                                                  Im a newbie to mma. What are thoughts on Davis? Should he win? Hes -550 at my book.
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                                                  • JuicedUp
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-20-10
                                                    • 3396

                                                    #340
                                                    Originally posted by Brian891
                                                    Im a newbie to mma. What are thoughts on Davis? Should he win? Hes -550 at my book.
                                                    -550 means he should win, and he will. Bet everything you have. That is all.
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                                                    • lasker
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-27-10
                                                      • 1683

                                                      #341
                                                      Originally posted by lasker
                                                      parlay: Fodor -335 / Zaromskis -270 / Barboza -550 , 3-team parlay at +110: 3u to win 3.3u
                                                      +1.6u win on this parlay, which is made a two-teamer (Fodor and Barboza) since Zaromskis' fight was a no contest.
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                                                      • lasker
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 01-27-10
                                                        • 1683

                                                        #342
                                                        Originally posted by Brian891
                                                        Im a newbie to mma. What are thoughts on Davis? Should he win? Hes -550 at my book.
                                                        Davis should win, I think he's better everywhere, but I'm not laying -550 on him straight up. Take the points handicap or include him in a parlay.
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                                                        • Brian891
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-28-10
                                                          • 2049

                                                          #343
                                                          Thanks. Get the juice. Just wasnt sure if they just have contrasting styles, or if he matches up overwehlmingly or what. Not a bet everything i have newbie, but do have an account at bookmaker i use strictly for moneyline fun and was curious is all.
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                                                          • lasker
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-27-10
                                                            • 1683

                                                            #344
                                                            Originally posted by lasker
                                                            Tyson Griffin -205 / Edson Barboza -550 / Lyoto Machida -230, 3-team parlay @+151, 2.65u to win 4u
                                                            -2.65u on this one. By all reports, Griffin was robbed. Five sites had either 30-27 or 29-28 for Griffin, I haven't come across one for Lentz. I'll have to see the fight, but the judges scores of 30-27 Griffin and 29-28 Lentz (twice) are already suspicious. Nothing new... typical judging bullshit.
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                                                            • lasker
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-27-10
                                                              • 1683

                                                              #345
                                                              What started out as a very promising night turned to disaster in the last three fights. Falcao came about a second or two away from winning in round 1, which would have been very nice. I could be wrong, but I thought Harris was moving his arm to tap exactly at the same second as the bell rang. Never saw Falcao winning by decision. That was a shocker. Harris fought the 3rd round as if he had won the first two. Totally relaxed, not looking to finish. It was as if he had just accepted a loss by decision. Did his corner not tell him he was losing that fight?

                                                              Man, if Machida would have submitted Rampage in round 3 I would have won both prop bets (machida in the 3rd and machida by submission)... when he had full mount I really thought he was going to pull it off, but Rampage is so damn strong he just powers out of submissions. If and if and if... if pigs had wings. Anyway, I lost on Machida and I lost pretty big. I thought the decision should have gone his way, but it doesn't matter. The way things have been going in MMA I already knew before it was announced that it would be a split for Rampage. I was so sure of it I told my friend as soon as the fight ended that it would be a split for Rampage, ugh. Close fight though, at least with the ridiculous 10 pt-must-system scoring method. It is what it is.

                                                              Penn just destroyed Hughes, and I was sure that the fight was going to decision. Congrats to Ecco and all the others who were so confident in Penn as the small favorite. Embarrassing loss for Hughes... I even felt bad for him, which I never thought would happen.

                                                              I'll tally up the losses in this thread tomorrow. The losses in real life were even worse, believe me, thanks to playing too many parlays again. Hope everyone had a better night.
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                                                              • Vaughany
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 03-07-10
                                                                • 45563

                                                                #346
                                                                Unlucky Lask, bad luck with the Machida and Griffin decisions, my night would of been a lot more profitable if Machida had of got the decision Machida made a big mistake not taking Rampage down more IMO. He had opportunities in both rnds 1 and 2 wer they were clinched against the cage and could of got one of his trip-takedowns to steal a round. Rampage would offer no threat from the bottom and its not like ther would be the risk of him sweeping Machida to get full mount or anything! In the last page you said you wer gonna look to put something on GSot/Lauzon FOTN but I cant see anything related to it on this page so dont know if u did in the end?...That being FOTN, the Davis sub of night and Foster by sub bets saved me in the end!

                                                                Anyway, looks like ur top of the contest with 8 out of 11 picks...every silver cloud and all that!
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                                                                • lasker
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-27-10
                                                                  • 1683

                                                                  #347
                                                                  Time to tally up the damage....

                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Machida -230: 8u to win 3.48u
                                                                  Ouch.


                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Hughes wins by 3 round decision +267: 1.5u to win 4.01u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Brian Foster -145: 3u to win 2.07u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Machida -230 / Davis - 525 / Maia -350, three-team parlay @+120: 3u to win 3.6u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  L.Machida wins by submission +1360: 1u to win 13.6u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  M.Hughes wins in round 3 +1800: 1u to win 18u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  L.Machida wins in round 3 +1375: 1u to win 13.75u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  M.Falcao wins in round 1 +750: 1u to win 7.5u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Falcao/Harris won't go 3 round distance -280 : 5.6u to win 2u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Penn/Hughes goes 3 round distance -160: 2u to win 1.25u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  parlay: Fodor -335 / Zaromskis -270 / Barboza -550, 3-team parlay at +110: 3u to win 3.3u
                                                                  - won but as a two-teamer, Zaromskis' fight was a NC.

                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  super-square parlay that I'm dumb enough to bet: Machida -240 / Maia -350 / Davis -525 / Fodor -335 / Zaromskis -270 / Barboza -550, 6-team parlay at +358: 2u to win 7.16u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Justin Wilcox +240: 2u to win 4.8u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  There will probably be one more addition, Sotiropoulous/Lauzon get FOTN, but the odds aren't out yet on 5dimes. I think this one will live up to the hype.
                                                                  -- sadly, FOTN odds at 5dimes were ridiculously short

                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  tiny quasi-hedge, since i have Davis in a few parlays (way more than I listed here): Boetsch wins in round 1 +1925: 0.31u to win 6u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Tyson Griffin -205 / Edson Barboza -550 / Lyoto Machida -230, 3-team parlay @+151, 2.65u to win 4u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  1140 L.Machida points handicap -3½ -130: 5u to win 3.85u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Fodor -345 / Zaromskis -260, 2-team parlay at -128: 2u to win 1.56u
                                                                  won on Fodor, Zaromskis = nc.

                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Munoz -130: 2u to win 1.54u

                                                                  Munoz wins in round 3 +900: 0.5u to win 4.5u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Also adding:

                                                                  Foster wins by submission +500: 0.5u to win 2.5u
                                                                  Originally posted by lasker
                                                                  Davis points handicap -260: 2.6u to win 1u

                                                                  Harris wins inside distance -130: 2u to win 1.54u

                                                                  the harris prop is a hedge with my Falcao in round 1 bet earlier.

                                                                  -23.47u


                                                                  Actually would have won over +9u had Machida and Griffin been awarded the decisions they deserved (this assumes Maia will beat Grove to complete that parlay. Even without Maia winning I would have been in plus figures). It is what it is. Judging is a big part of the risk involved in mma betting. Amazing what a difference two fights made for me, especially the Machida fight.

                                                                  The 10-point-must system needs to go. There have been so many judging catastrophes as a result of looking at a fight round by round instead of in its entirety. In Pride, this Machida-Jackson result would have been a flat out robbery (which explains why Jackson himself was so shocked by the decision), and that's how it should be since common sense dictates Machida won that fight. Unfortunately the decision can be defended under UFC's system of scoring, though even still it has caused a lot of controversy.

                                                                  Results like Bisping-Hamill, Machida-Rua I, Lil Nog-Brilz, Sherk-Dunham and Jackson-Machida would be averted if the judges were to judge a fight in its entirety. What's so special about 5 minute increments that judging should be biased to that time frame? Look for who did more damage, who won the fight as a whole, who would have won the fight if it went on. Don't look at who won rounds. Some rounds are so close and then others are lopsided. Everytime we see two super close rounds and then one lopsided one (or three close rounds and two lopsided ones in a title fight, as in Machida-Rua), there is a serious danger of one fighter getting screwed.
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                                                                  • jacktheknife
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 09-25-10
                                                                    • 1217

                                                                    #348
                                                                    I hate to ask what that number is when you don't count the Strikeforce wins..........so I won't.

                                                                    If it makes you feel any better, think of rounds as "mini-fights".

                                                                    If that doesn't then....uh, here you go.
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                                                                    • lasker
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 01-27-10
                                                                      • 1683

                                                                      #349
                                                                      heh, thanks jtk. There were winning and losing parlays that included strikeforce and ufc fights, so that's why I put the results from the last two days tpgether. I need to learn not to bet too damn much on one fight. If Maia wins, two highly questionable decisions made a difference of over 30 units for me, turning a winning night into a losing one.
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                                                                      • lasker
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 01-27-10
                                                                        • 1683

                                                                        #350
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