UFC Fight Night: Dillashaw vs. Cruz (January 17, 2016)

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  • JC2008
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    #281
    Originally posted by JoshKnows46
    How bout no, bitch
    Good one, Acquado.
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    • getlucky2win
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      #282
      Originally posted by JC2008
      How about we get some more discussion going on the lesser-known fights instead of you bitches arguing?
      i hear luke sanders is bangin ur moms face.

      discuss
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      • JIBBBY
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        #283
        Cruz owns TJ Dill.. ^^^^ Not to late to back up your bet Josh.. Save face.. We'll understand....

        If ya lose pal ya better not leave the forum for the stiff job, had that happen to me once already in the past with a big shot..

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        • JoshKnows46
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          #284
          Originally posted by JIBBBY
          Cruz owns TJ Dill.. ^^^^ Not to late to back up your bet Josh.. Save face.. We'll understand....

          If ya lose pal ya better not leave the forum for the stiff job, had that happen to me once already in the past with a big shot..

          Youve never meet someone as good as me, so dont compare me to anyone. You lose every card, and you think I'm gonna run scared of you if you happen to win one fight....how many main events you need me to prove to you that I'm better than you before you wise up and get with the winning team? How many?
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          • mirinquads
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            #285
            Originally posted by getlucky2win
            i hear luke sanders is bangin ur moms face.

            discuss
            Is this a fact!?

            May make Sanders more motivated to impress this mother in the fight.. Interesting inside information.
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            • JIBBBY
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              #286
              Originally posted by JoshKnows46
              Youve never meet someone as good as me, so dont compare me to anyone. You lose every card, and you think I'm gonna run scared of you if you happen to win one fight....how many main events you need me to prove to you that I'm better than you before you wise up and get with the winning team? How many?
              Son please.. Settle down and just pay up when your boy TJ gets lit up..
              Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-15-16, 07:01 PM.
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              • JC2008
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                #287
                Originally posted by getlucky2win
                i hear luke sanders is bangin ur moms face.

                discuss
                You're hilarious.
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                • bjpenn85
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                  #288
                  Jibby, have you listened to Heavy Hands podcast - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPdplusTEsg

                  After listening to this, i want your opinion.
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                  • JIBBBY
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                    #289
                    Originally posted by JC2008
                    How about we get some more discussion going on the lesser-known fights instead of you bitches arguing?
                    I'll be happy to discuss any fights, I got time.. It's all waste of time for me though.. I'm ready for this event to get underway already!!!

                    There is RFA tonight on AXS to pass the time..

                    <small>RFA 34 - Welterweight 5 rounds - 1STBANK Center - Broomfield, Colorado - AXS</small>
                    Fri 1/15 3001 Benjamin Smith <input id="editx" name="M1_0" size="4"> +135
                    10:00PM 3002 Bojan Velickovic <input id="editx" name="M2_0" size="4"> -175
                    <small>RFA 34 - Middleweight 3 rounds - 1STBANK Center - Broomfield, Colorado - AXS</small>
                    Fri 1/15 3101 John Poppie <input id="editx" name="M1_1" size="4"> +190
                    10:00PM 3102 Adam Stroup <input id="editx" name="M2_1" size="4"> -270
                    <small>RFA 34 - Lightweight 3 rounds - 1STBANK Center - Broomfield, Colorado - AXS</small>
                    Fri 1/15 3201 Cody Mumma <input id="editx" name="M1_2" size="4"> +115
                    10:00PM 3202 Jeremy Kimball <input id="editx" name="M2_2" size="4"> -155
                    <small>RFA 34 - Bantamweight 3 rounds - 1STBANK Center - Broomfield, Colorado - AXS</small>
                    Fri 1/15 3301 Zac Riley <input id="editx" name="M1_3" size="4"> +1000
                    10:00PM 3302 Hugo Viana <input id="editx" name="M2_3" size="4"> -2000
                    http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/RFA...le-Scrap-98579
                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-15-16, 07:14 PM.
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                    • JC2008
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                      #290
                      JIBBY ---> Do you have any good leans for this card?
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                      • JIBBBY
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                        #291
                        RFA - Fights up on the board.. Little basics for ya...

                        Bojan Velickovic (12-3) vs Ben Smith (15-3)
                        Fighter Rankings:
                        Velickovic #111
                        Smith #151
                        Velickovic fought in an attempt to get on the TUF 19 cast, losing by first round KO to Tim Williams. Since that time he's gone 4-1 on the regional circuit and has won his last 3, all in RFA. The 27 year old Serbian fighter is 3-1 overall in RFA and this will be his first main event. His only loss in the promotion came to former UFC fighter Gilbert Smith. His last two RFA wins have been by decision.
                        Smith, coincidentally enough, has also lost to Gilbert Smith in RFA. That loss in June of last year was the only loss in the last nine fights for the 35 year old who fight out of Las Vegas. Smith is 3-2 overall in RFA with 2 of the wins coming by decision.

                        Middleweights Adam Stroup (10-2) vs John Poppie (6-2)
                        Fighter Rankings:
                        Stroup #89
                        Poppie #159
                        Stroup also tried out for TUF 19, losing to Dhiego Lima in his fight to get into the house via 2 round decision. He's since won 5 of his last 6, all by finish. Those fights have all taken place in regional promotion SCL and this will be his RFA debut. This will be the most high profile fight of the Denver Colorado's native career.
                        Poppie is yet another fighter who lost a qualifying fight for that TUF 19 season, being submitted in the 3rd round by Josh Clark. He went on to win his next 3 fights after that before debuting in RFA at RFA 28 in a title match against Andrew Sanchez. The 25 year old, who fights out of Wisconsin, was knocked out in the 3rd round of that fight.

                        Light Heavyweights Cody Mumma (8-2) vs Jeremy Kimball (11-5)
                        Fighter Rankings:
                        Mumma #76
                        Kimball #165 Middleweight
                        In a running theme for the night, Mumma lost a qualifying fight for TUF 19, being submitted in the first round by Anton Berzin. He was knocked out in his next fight but went on to win his next 3, including his RFA debut over Colton Vaughn in November 2014. The Colorado fighter has finishes in every one of his professional wins.
                        Kimball moves up a weight class after competing his entire career at Middleweight. The Colorado fighter has lost 2 of his last 3, being submitted in both of those fights. Kimball fought twice in preliminary fights for Bellator, going 1-1 there and this will be second RFA fight. He submitted Chidi Njokuani at RFA 7 in his promotional debut.

                        Bantamweights Hugo Viana (8-3) vs Zac Riley (3-3)
                        Fighter Rankings:
                        Viana #150
                        Riley #116 in the US West region on Tapology
                        Viana is the biggest name on this card with a 1.7 SP score. He's a 6 fight UFC veteran, having gone 3-3 for the promotion. He did lose 3 of his last 4 which led to his release. Most recently he fought at UFC 190, losing a decision to Guido Cannetti. His only two other career losses have been to current UFC Bantamweight Champion TJ Dillashaw and unbeaten prospect Aljamain Sterling. The 33 yr old Brazilian lost to Rony Jason in the finals of the first TUF Brazil tournament. This will be his first US fight outside of the UFC.
                        Riley fights for the 3rd time in RFA, having split his first two fights. Most recently, he submitted Shai Lindsey in the first round at RFA 31 last October. This will be the most high profile opponent for the 23 year old Colorado fighter.
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                        • JIBBBY
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                          #292
                          Originally posted by JC2008
                          JIBBY ---> Do you have any good leans for this card?
                          Like all the favorites unfortunately..
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                          • Unwritten Law
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                            #293
                            No RFA lines on BookMaker.
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                            • JIBBBY
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                              #294
                              Originally posted by Unwritten Law
                              No RFA lines on BookMaker.
                              There never is.. 5Dimes
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                              • JIBBBY
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                                #295
                                Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                Jibby, have you listened to Heavy Hands podcast - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPdplusTEsg

                                After listening to this, i want your opinion.
                                I'll try to get around to it later tonight if I can.. It's an hour long listen.. I never listened to Heavy Hands potcast but heard of it.. Will listen and get back to you..

                                I really like to read or listen to facts rather then opinions. Everyone has under the sun has different opinions but facts or stats can't be disputed... I gravitate towards that.. If these guys can deliver hard to find facts accurately then their solid IMO..
                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-15-16, 09:49 PM.
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                                • TPowell
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                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                                  When was his last KO? When was last time he knocked the guy out COLD??? Tko doesnt mean shit for punching power. KO's do
                                  dumbest logic ever
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                                  • Killer_Demo
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                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by TPowell
                                    dumbest logic ever
                                    I don't argue i let my bets speak for themselves. Travis browne -150 Fade me
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                                    • JoshKnows46
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                                      #298
                                      Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                                      I don't argue i let my bets speak for themselves. Travis browne -150 Fade me
                                      You can get him by sub at +600
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                                      • JIBBBY
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                                        #299
                                        Zac Riley at +1000 is worth a shot.. It's still a fight.. Hell of a dog if that barks.. RFA..
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                                        • UncleChael
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                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          Zac Riley at +1000 is worth a shot.. It's still a fight.. Hell of a dog if that barks.. RFA..
                                          Woof, woof.
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                                          • TPowell
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                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by Killer_Demo
                                            I don't argue i let my bets speak for themselves. Travis browne -150 Fade me
                                            Probably will. Good luck betting on a guy that went from the best striking coaches in the world to one of the worst gyms in the history of MMA. Guy has so much baggage right now it isn't even funny. He doesn't wanna wrestle anymore and he's facing a guy that can easily take him on the feet.
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                                            • JIBBBY
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                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by UncleChael
                                              Woof, woof.
                                              I didn't play it straight, I'm an idiot!!.. I hope you did UNC!!! Huge DOG HIT right there!!! +1000!!!!

                                              I passed on the straight because I didn't think Riley could win, but luckily just for giggles and kicks I did throw a 20 spot on this 2 team parlay just to be entertained while watching.. This could work out if Stroup wins now....

                                              $20.00 $281.50 Loss 2 Team Parlay
                                              Loss 1/15/16 10:00pm AXS Fighting 3102 Adam Stroup -270* <small>vs</small> John Poppie
                                              Win 1/15/16 10:00pm AXS Fighting 3301 Zac Riley +1000* <small>vs</small> Hugo Viana
                                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-16-16, 12:35 PM.
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                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                #303
                                                Kimbell is a fat tub alla Roy Nelson and missed weight but he's tough and can kick box and hit hard.. That favorite hit.. Need this second leg to close out now..

                                                $100.00 $158.50 Win 2 Team Parlay
                                                Win 1/15/16 10:00pm AXS Fighting 3002 Bojan Velickovic -175* <small>vs</small> Benjamin Smith
                                                Win 1/15/16 10:00pm AXS Fighting 3202 Jeremy Kimball -155* <small>vs</small> Cody Mumma
                                                Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-16-16, 12:34 PM.
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                                                • JoshKnows46
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                                                  #304
                                                  Final Card:

                                                  TJ Dillashaw -140/-145..................................... . $7500 to win $5270.93
                                                  TJ Dillashaw wins inside 5 round distance +315...$500 to win $
                                                  1575

                                                  Eddie Alvarez Wins by Dec +500............................. $250 to win $1250

                                                  Font/Gomez WON'T go the distance -270..................... $1350 to win $500

                                                  Browne/Mitrione Under 1.5 Rounds -180.................. $900 to win $500

                                                  Ross Pearson -150..................................... ....$900 to win $600

                                                  Ross Pearson Wins in round 3 +1700............. $100 to win $1700

                                                  Browne by sub +600............................ $300 to win $1800
                                                  (hedged with Mitrone by ko at +190 $158 to win $300)

                                                  O'connell +230.................................... $300 to win $690

                                                  O'connell by ko +615.......................... $300 to $1845 (hedged with Latifi by sub at +415 $150 to win $622.50)

                                                  Felder wins inside distance +130.......... $300 to win $390

                                                  Felder -240 ........................................ $1200 to win $500

                                                  BTW my base unit is $300, if your unit is $100, and you would like to follow what I bet, then you'd want to put $100 on my $300 play, $300 on my $900 plays, $400 on my $1200 plays, and so on and so on, remember to bet within the means of your bankroll. if your Unit is 100 then divide the amount i'm risking by 3, if your unit is $50 then you'd divide what i'm risking by 6. everytime you increase your bankroll by $5000, you increase your unit by $50 dollars, this insures you will always have a continued bankroll, and never be out the race.
                                                  Last edited by JoshKnows46; 01-16-16, 02:28 AM.
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                                                  • blazes_bff
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                                                    #305
                                                    Cruz's footwork looking good here. quick takedowns against a dummy partner, but looks promising.
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                                                    • bjpenn85
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                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by blazes_bff
                                                      Cruz's footwork looking good here. quick takedowns against a dummy partner, but looks promising.
                                                      https://youtu.be/aW1OJB0nNEw
                                                      I remember i thougth rousey looked unbelievable on the mits before holly holm fight. I think the important keys to this fight is:

                                                      1.Dominick is an defensive orientated fighter who doesnt sit down on his punches and rather ducks or move while throwing strikes.
                                                      2.Long layoff with significant knee injury - while cruz have followed knee rehab tj has grown and developed. Sad, but true.
                                                      3.Tj dillashaws improved movement, Cruz may be on par, but this isnt an significant edge cruz have anymore.
                                                      4.Tjs Power
                                                      5.Tjs wrestling which probably negates cruz plan b when he gets hit. Cause Dominick gets hit and when that happens good luck trying to take down dillashaw with a tdd of 100%. Cruz may take down dillashaw once or twice but repeatedly, not likely.
                                                      6.A significant edge Cruz had before was cardio, while in this matchup Tj is the one with an edge in cardio.

                                                      Many who bets Cruz believes he will be a better version when hes not likely the best cruz at this point, perhaps 70-80% version of himself. Look closely on the first minute of the mizugaki, does Cruz look any different before the takedown? And even when he was champion he still had holes in his game mighty mouse and faber did exploit, although they didnt win.

                                                      I see a lot of similarities from Cowboy vs RDA in how people are viewing this fight

                                                      1. All the smart analyst (Conor R,P.Wyman, Jesse R, Nick kalikas, Joshknows etc) are in agreement of TJ winning not one that i follow or believe is a legit analyst go for cruz, why? Their looking past what Dominick says and look at the details of the fight.

                                                      This also happened in the RDA vs Cerrone, the polls where like 70% in favour of Cerrone at fox and other places. Winning streak of seven fights and that Cerrone had found some sort of groove. Off course all the analyst brushed these arguments quickly off as bellony, soundly looking past the bullshit and evaluated RDAs skills and found him a bad matchup for Cerrone.

                                                      2. People buy into the Cruz is smarter than Dillashaw, which may be a legit point, but this isnt enough alone IMO to believe he will win How will this smartness really manifest itself in this fight? No words from the Cruz backers, that doesnt mean some kind of genious adjustment will happen during the course of the fight, but its hard to get a good grasp on what this actually means practically.

                                                      Therefor the logical pick is Tj.Dillashaw. The data to conclude that Cruz is the better fighter or have any advantages beyond having higher IQ simply isnt there.

                                                      Are you the TJ dillashaw of betting?

                                                      Vote TJ!
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        #307
                                                        ^^ Josh I like some of you your bets and betting strategies.. I'm on a few of those same bets.. GL...
                                                        Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-16-16, 12:18 PM.
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                                                        • JIBBBY
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                                                          #308
                                                          I'll list all my pending parlays so far, $5 entire card parlay coming up after weigh ins.. I've also got too many pending straights, props and hedge bets to post... This is only 5dimes, not including all my sportsbooks bets...

                                                          $132.80 $232.30 Pending 2 Team Parlay
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1401 Patrick Cote -105* <small>vs</small> Ben Saunders
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1802 Paul Felder -245* <small>vs</small> Daron Cruickshank

                                                          $200.00 $223.50 Pending 2 Team Parlay
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1102 Anthony Pettis -330* <small>vs</small> Eddie Alvarez
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 10:59pm UFC Fighting 1202 Travis Browne -160* <small>vs</small> Matt Mitrione
                                                          (did later on hedge with the Mitrione KO prop for $123.50 at +170)

                                                          $50.00 $350.20 Pending 3 Team Parlay
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1101 Eddie Alvarez/Anthony Pettis Under 2½ +105*
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1401 Patrick Cote/Ben Saunders Under 2½ +100*
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1501 Ed Herman/Tim Boetsch Under 2½ -105*

                                                          $30.00 $1347.90 Pending 6 Team Parlay
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 11:59pm UFC Fighting 1001 Dominick Cruz +115* <small>vs</small> T.J. Dillashaw
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 11:30pm UFC Fighting 1102 Anthony Pettis -335* <small>vs</small> Eddie Alvarez
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1201 Matt Mitrione +145* <small>vs</small> Travis Browne
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1301 Francisco Trinaldo +145* <small>vs</small> Ross Pearson
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1401 Patrick Cote +100* <small>vs</small> Ben Saunders
                                                          Cancelled 1/17/16 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1502 Mairbek Taisumov -270* <small>vs</small> Chris Wade
                                                          $50.00 $233.50 Pending 3 Team Parlay
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1201 Matt Mitrione/Travis Browne Under 1½ -180*
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1501 Ed Herman/Tim Boetsch Under 2½ -110*
                                                          Pending 1/17/16 7:30pm UFC Fighting 1901 Sean O'Connell/Ilir Latifi Under 1½ -110*
                                                          Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-16-16, 12:50 PM.
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                                                          • JIBBBY
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                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                            All the smart analyst (Conor R,P.Wyman, Jesse R, Nick kalikas, Joshknows etc) are in agreement of TJ winning not one that i follow or believe is a legit analyst go for cruz, why? Their looking past what Dominick says and look at the details of the fight.
                                                            All the so called smart analysts aren't that smart when capping this fight.. IMO....

                                                            Cruz standing clinic coming up....
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                                                            • JIBBBY
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                                                              #310
                                                              WEIGH INS...

                                                              Last edited by JIBBBY; 01-16-16, 04:05 PM.
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                                                              • JIBBBY
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                                                                #311
                                                                Chris Wade at a height disadvantage and Patrick Cote looked more ripped then usual is all I noticed.. Also Travis Browne looks to be in very good shape for him...

                                                                It's on and popping!!!
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                                                                • TPowell
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                                                                  #312
                                                                  Baghdad had to use the towel to get down to weight and Blanco looked like he had no clue whether or not he was going to be able to make 145, he barely made it at 146
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                                                                  • mirinquads
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                                                                    #313
                                                                    Blanco looked better than ever. Cruz sounded pretty damn nonconfident in the speech thing.
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                                                                    • TPowell
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                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by mirinquads
                                                                      Blanco looked better than ever. Cruz sounded pretty damn nonconfident in the speech thing.
                                                                      with his eyes closed on the scale praying he makes weight after failing to in his last fight? Guess you may be right, but he'll still gas AGAIN in the 1st round with a decent pace
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                                                                      • mirinquads
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                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by TPowell
                                                                        with his eyes closed on the scale praying he makes weight after failing to in his last fight? Guess you may be right, but he'll still gas AGAIN in the 1st round with a decent pace
                                                                        He's never ever gassed in the first round. There's a difference between having a good cut, but you're just big for the weight class, or a shit cut and looked bad.

                                                                        He slowed down after throwing 60 strikes / a round against Hooker, a pressure fighter who was looking to get him down all the time. Won't happen here.
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