system integrity 2012

**stevex** · 05-31-12, 04:03 PM

J.M. whatever you say man, another one of your essays...

Any way back to more important matters. Backtesting is of course the key to any system, if you don't have positive results for other years then the system is not a system....

With that being said, each year is going to be different. For example, last year we may of had a bad run in mid to late June, but before that we had a good run. So each year is going to be different in terms of WHEN we have our bad spots and WHEN we have our good spots. Its the actual money managing that is what so few people know how to actually conquer and that my friend is what you need to do. Trust me, I learned the hard way when I first started a few years back, chasing John Morrisons systems and going broke each time. Some times you have to learn the hard way and am actually glad that I did because now I know how to make a profit...

**J.M. Disciple** · 05-31-12, 08:11 PM

same lame response each time steve, "another one of your essays." I did not know 2 paragraphs counted as an essay. You must be in 3rd grade still. Keep preaching your bankroll strategy with out any back testing behind it to back it up. Your responses grow old.

I might of made a mistake of mixing up last year with 2006 back test that slapshot sent me. Ill go back and post the #s again, but even when I do post the numbers so many of you still choose to follow blindly instead of facing the facts that chasing is not going to be profitable every year.

Is this another essay steve? hahahah f\*g

**stevex** · 05-31-12, 08:20 PM

J.M. your a joke on these threads and nobody pays attention to you.

Stick to your 3 - 11 working at Burger King chief, this ain't for you.

**J.M. Disciple** · 05-31-12, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by stevex

J.M. your a joke on these threads and nobody pays attention to you.

Stick to your 3 - 11 working at Burger King chief, this ain't for you.

Let me know when your ready to stop talking at your ass and provide some actual stats.

I bet I can predict your next 3 post.... "jm your a joke, keep managing your bankroll and by season end you will be in the black, you never know when A bets are going to hit a nice streak and if you quit now you will miss out...."

**Ville Helm** · 05-31-12, 09:23 PM

1 thing for sure - its a pretty deep hole!

**stevex** · 05-31-12, 09:37 PM

Hey J.M. are you going to "quit this system" because its had a little rough patch just like on3's system? What's wrong, not enough of a bankroll? Or do you just not know how to bet the right amounts? Or is this just to "mind intensive" for you?

Ha such a joke.

**Ville Helm** · 05-31-12, 09:50 PM

That's 3 losses in a row this week. Do we divide these losses up further? Awful stuff from Boston, only got 1 hit since inning 3!! Deep, dark hole alright

**ChiLLx** · 05-31-12, 10:18 PM

Another low point after tonight's loss

**stevex** · 05-31-12, 10:20 PM

Rough patch. That's all it is fellas. Stay with it.

**J.M. Disciple** · 05-31-12, 10:59 PM

edit.

**J.M. Disciple** · 05-31-12, 11:00 PM

edit.

**J.M. Disciple** · 05-31-12, 11:04 PM

edit.

**J.M. Disciple** · 05-31-12, 11:20 PM

LOL Steve I believe i just predicted 2 of your post in a row. "such a joke" and "stick with it"...... I wonder how i predicted your post so easily.... maybe because its getting old and you continuously post the same crap every day 2 or 3 times in just about every thread.

No I am not quitting this system because I am "losing." Hahaha I am one of the few actually labbying this system and am in the black. Keep thinking you can chase on on3's and this system blindly and be in the positive every season with out much of a downfall.... lets see how far that gets you.

I still play the filtered plays for on3 but quit the other part of the system because of the 2007 season where people lost 50-70units chasing! So no i did not quit the system just because I was losing, I quit because i became more aware of how big of a swing the system could take. I am not the only one that quit, you are just stubborn to do the same.

And on a side note I am actually only down 18 units on the season with everything combined. Where are you at with your chasing? Go ahead and keep encouraging people to follow blindly... Oh yea ill be surprised if you read this since everything to you seems like an essay and you have some type of reading disability that does not allow you to read more then 1 paragraph.

I wont respond back to any more of your unintelligent remarks because none of it is backed by facts, but just shit you come up with that sounds good to you. Have a nice day you happy bundle of sticks.

Back to the system....

TB (-170) tomorrow against Baltimore. Two struggling teams going head to head. This one seems like a bigger game to avoid then todays games, but May has been the most unpredictable month, so lets see what is in store for us for June.

Good Luck Everyone

**slapshot** · 06-01-12, 09:23 AM

23-20-14 -25.58
wins-losses-pushes

friday
washington......-1 to win 5 units

yesterday
boston......-1 to win 5 units**loss**

**Ville Helm** · 06-01-12, 09:39 AM

Originally posted by slapshot

23-20-14 -25.58
wins-losses-pushes

friday
washington......-1 to win 5 units

yesterday
boston......-1 to win 5 units**loss**

Did Tampa Bay not open as today's favourites? I thought we'd be on TB as per JMD above?

**slapshot** · 06-01-12, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Ville Helm

Did Tampa Bay not open as today's favourites? I thought we'd be on TB as per JMD above?

comparing washington and tampa, looking at pinnacle opening line, both sbr and covers have washington clearly as the biggest favorite today.

tb at covers -160
was at covers -171

**J.M. Disciple** · 06-01-12, 12:06 PM

I like the Washington bet more anyways...

would like to note that TB and NYY both opened at -167 using SBR live odds. Washington is dropping a ton right now and are currently in the 140s.

Just going to throw a couple side bets in on TB, NYY, and KC to clear my line.

Good luck all.

**Nino7** · 06-01-12, 05:52 PM

game canceled?my wagger was canceled!

**DollarBill10** · 06-01-12, 05:57 PM

So what are we going to play? NEED ACTION!

**J.M. Disciple** · 06-01-12, 06:01 PM

When ever there is a delay it goes down as no play in the back test. wait until tomorrow or takes TB/NYY. If your labbying it wont matter, if your chasing, then wait for official post tomorrow.

**slapshot** · 06-01-12, 06:12 PM

atl @ was is still the biggest favorite of the even if it is rained out if you get my logic. so if the game is cancelled we're not replacing the biggest favorite with the second biggest.....that is if you follow my strategy.

**Ville Helm** · 06-01-12, 08:22 PM

As per first post folks, play is cancelled. Damn shame, Yankees and TB rays are winning easy. I hate to be overly negative, but it's hard to be positive just now. Still, I trust Slapshot - he seems very rigid with the rules of this system. That is a trustworth sign. Believe people. Still 3 months ahead. Want to see the light at the end of this tunnel soon all the same....

**J.M. Disciple** · 06-02-12, 02:08 AM

SEASON PROFIT

W +1 +1
W +1 +2
L -1.5 +1.5
L -3.75 -2.25
L -9.38 -11.63
W +5U -6.63
W +5U -1.63
W +5U +3.37
L -1.5 +1.87
W +2.5 +4.37
W +1 +5.37
L -1.5 +3.87
L -3.75 +.12
W +6.25 +6.37
W +1 +7.37
W +1 +8.37
W +1 +9.37
L -1.5 +7.87
L -3.75 +4.12
L -9.38 -5.26
W +5 -.26
L -7.5 -7.76
L -7.5 -15.26
W +5 -10.26
W +5 -5.26
W +5 -.26
L -7.5 -7.76
W +5 -2.76
W +5 +2.24
L -7.5 -5.26
L -7.5 -12.76
W +5 -7.76
L -7.5 -15.26
L -7.5 -22.76
W +5 -17.76
W +5 -12.76
W +5 -7.76
W +5 -2.76
W +5 +2.24
W +5 +7.24
L -7.5 -.26
L -7.5 -7.76
W +5 -2.76
L -7.5 -10.26
L -7.5 -17.76
W +5 -12.76
W +5 -7.76
L -7.5 -15.26
W +5 -10.26
W +5 -5.26
W +5 -.26
W +5 +4.74
L -7.5 -2.76
W +5 +2.24
W +5 +7.24
L -7.5 -.26
L -7.5 -7.76
W +5 -2.76
L -7.5 -10.26
W +5 -5.26
W +5 -.26
L -7.5 -7.76
W +5 -2.76
L -7.5 -10.26
W +5 -5.26
W +5 -.26
L -7.5 -7.76
L -7.5 -15.26
W +5 -10.26
W +5 -5.26
W +5 -.26
W +5 +4.74
W +5 +9.74
W +1 +10.74
L -1.5 +9.24
L -3.75 +5.49
L -9.38 -3.89
W +5 +1.11
W +5 +6.11
W +5 +11.11
W +1 +12.11
W +1 +13.11
W +1 +14.11
L -1.5 +12.61
W +2.5 +15.11
L -1.5 +13.61
L -3.75 +9.86
W +6.25 +16.11
W +1 +17.11
L -1.5 +15.61
W +2.5 +18.11
L -1.5 +16.61
L -3.75 +12.86
W +6.25 +19.11
W +1 +20.11
W +1 +21.11
W +1 +22.11
L -1.5 +20.61
W +2.5 +23.11
W +1 +24.11
L -1.5 +22.61
W +2.5 +25.11
W +1 +26.11
W +1 +27.11
W +1 +28.11
W +1 +29.11
W +1 +30.11
W +1 +31.11
W +1 +32.11
L -1.5 +30.61
L -3.75 +26.86
L -9.38 +17.48
L -7.5 +9.98
L -7.5 +2.48
W +5 +7.48
W +5 +12.48
W +5 +17.48
W +5 +22.48
W +5 +27.48
W +5 +32.48
L -1.5 +30.98
W +2.5 +33.48
L -1.5 +31.98
L -3.75 +28.23
L -9.38 +18.85
W +5 +23.85
W +5 +28.85
L -7.5 +21.35
L -7.5 +13.85
W +5 +18.85
L -7.5 +11.35
W +5 +16.35
L -7.5 +8.85
W +5 +13.85

Season end +13.85 units.
based on -150 odds. I took out all the rain delays and pushes and only counted the games that were win or loss. This is based on 2011's back test that slapshot sent me a few weeks back. Starting flat betting 5units after a 3 game series loss. Total of 4 series losses last year. Just trying to enlighten those who are following blindly. 1st column is win / loss, 2nd number of units won / lost for that game, 3rd is season total. Sorry couldn't get it to space correctly.

**J.M. Disciple** · 06-02-12, 02:20 AM

Can not seem to upload any files on here either Microsoft word or open office, but the numbers are clearly laid out in front of all to see. I am not saying Slapshot is lying, but I just dont see how he got 60 units on the season. I have the open office file in my email if anyone else wants to check the numbers themselves.

**Ville Helm** · 06-02-12, 02:24 AM

J.M Disciple, you should open up a forum yourself please? You seem to know your stuff & you're still in the black! Are you the one to rescue us from this hole?? I think it's too late to begin a labby style now... But perhaps I'm wrong? Suggestions welcome.. Last years system went far more smoothly than this year do far & haven't had to comment until recently.

**slapshot** · 06-02-12, 05:10 AM

jmd, thanks for posting the units because now it's evident you don't
understand how the chase is played....or how i play the chase.

starting at the top to pick an example this is how the chase is played
i base the calculations on the average odds for the system.....1.6 decimal
W +1
W +1
L -1.67
L -4.44
L -11.85
the total loss after the 3 game losing streak is 17.96
split the loss up in 4 parts -->4.49 + 1 unit profit equals 5.49
this is what you bet to win over the next 4 wins.
W +5.49
W +5.49
W +5.49
L -9.15
W +14.64 (9.15+5.49)

add the numbers up...after the first 10 games you're up 6.0 units....not 4.37
case closed?

**slapshot** · 06-02-12, 06:14 AM

23-20-14-1
wins-losses-pushes-rain
-25.58 units

saturday
chicago white sox......-1 to win 5 units

yesterday
washington......-1 to win 5 units**rain**

**DustyDiamond** · 06-02-12, 10:17 AM

chicago white sox? According to covers Philly, Tampa, and SF all opened higher than CWS?

**slapshot** · 06-02-12, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by DustyDiamond

chicago white sox? According to covers Philly, Tampa, and SF all opened higher than CWS?

again...it's pinnacle opening line i look at.

**english bob** · 06-02-12, 11:59 AM

slapshot....not to be a pain but please double check as sbr mlb odds shows pinny opening at -161 for CWS but -162 for Tampa.....

**slapshot** · 06-02-12, 12:08 PM

Originally posted by english bob

slapshot....not to be a pain but please double check as sbr mlb odds shows pinny opening at -161 for CWS but -162 for Tampa.....

these are the pinnacle opening lines at covers.com
phi -160
tb -162
sf -155
cws -169

all plays previous years and back testing are based data from covers.com so that's the reason why i use that site to pick the plays....it's all about consistency.

**english bob** · 06-02-12, 12:28 PM

fair enough slapshot i understand the consistency thats required..you have your system and good luck to you.....i hope cws hits....

on a side note though i can tell you from experience that covers opening lines are occasionally inaccurate...especially in NHL......problem being they are behind with the times of posting...as is the case with today with cws.....i often sit and wait for opening lines as pinny is where i bet and i need to see those opening lines asap and see a difference sometimes....

**DollarBill10** · 06-02-12, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by slapshot

these are the pinnacle opening lines at covers.com
phi -160
tb -162
sf -155
cws -169

all plays previous years and back testing are based data from covers.com so that's the reason why i use that site to pick the plays....it's all about consistency.

Where do you see: "the pinnacle opening lines at covers.com". I can't seem to find it.

**J.M. Disciple** · 06-02-12, 01:06 PM

If you bet to win 5.49 units last year, why is everyone only betting 5units this year? Also I based it on -150 odds instead of your -160 to make the math just a tid bit easier. It would just take longer to make the loss back since its worse odds so case not closed. You can use that same record at -160 and I can almost guarantee that extra .1 is not going to bump from +13units on the season to +60.

You are misleading people who are following blindly with incorrect numbers. Everyone is expecting to make 60 units on the season as you say and Frankly that is not going to happen with the chase method you are using.

If I am wrong please send me correct numbers with the W/L above. I am not going to waste my time adjusting all my numbers from 1.5 to 1.6 because it is just not going to make that much of a difference.

**slapshot** · 06-02-12, 01:10 PM

Originally posted by DollarBill10

Where do you see: "the pinnacle opening lines at covers.com". I can't seem to find it.

you can find these lines form different paths.....look for live odds or mlb odds then look for line history