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  • slapshot
    SBR MVP
    • 10-27-07
    • 1194

    #141
    7-3-4 +5.28 units
    wins-losses-pushes

    thursday
    new york yankees......-1 to win 2.72 units.....'b' level bet


    yesterday
    new york yankees......-1 to win 1 unit.....'a' level bet**loser**
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    • njb5572
      SBR High Roller
      • 01-29-12
      • 126

      #142
      so for those of us making a run line of -1, seems that juice gets really high on the m/l. For example, it appears that I need to wager 8.7 units on my B m/l bet and roughly 2.5 on my B -1.5 r/l bet. Can somebody confirm that I am doing this right? Doesn't seem right...
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      • CrazyCarl
        SBR MVP
        • 10-09-11
        • 1437

        #143
        How in the world did you get to betting 10 units?
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        • slapshot
          SBR MVP
          • 10-27-07
          • 1194

          #144
          Originally posted by njb5572
          so for those of us making a run line of -1, seems that juice gets really high on the m/l. For example, it appears that I need to wager 8.7 units on my B m/l bet and roughly 2.5 on my B -1.5 r/l bet. Can somebody confirm that I am doing this right? Doesn't seem right...
          did you use the -1 run line calculator?
          if not i can mail it to you if you pm me your e-mail address
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          • J.M. Disciple
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 11-16-10
            • 5154

            #145
            This is wht the labby line looks like running 1 labby line at (-150 odds) during the worse run over 6 seasons.

            lost 5 - 5 - 5 - 5 ($15 to win $10)
            lost 7-7-7-7-7 ($21 to win $14)
            lost 9.4 x 6 ( 28.2 to win 18.8)
            lost 12.09 x 7#s (36.27 to win 24.18)
            push 15.12 x 12 #s
            lost 15.12 x 12 #s (45.36 to win 30.24)
            won 17.45 x 13#s
            lost 17.45 x 11#s (52.35 to win 34.90)
            lost 18.11 x 12#s (54.33 to win 36.22)
            won 20.90 x 13#s
            lost 20.90 x 11#s (62.70 to win 41.80)
            lost 24.39 x 12 #s ( 73.17 to win 48.78 )
            won 28.15 x 13#s
            lost 28.15 x 11#s (84.45 to win 56.30)

            Final LIne: $32.85 x 12 #s (98.55 to win 65.70)


            most money in play $394.2
            Largest bet 9.9units to win 6.6u



            This was done with 2 units per line as a $10 unit size.
            It was then followed by 4 straight wins reducing your line back down to 4 #s.

            With this system your largest bet with the labby could get as high as 20 units although it has not
            happened yet. Just prepare yourself for when it does. To avoid this maybe only do 1 unit
            per labby line for a safe bankroll management and just grind this out for a couple seasons

            You would have multiple 10 unit bets to clear your line at this point if your doing 2 units per line. This has only happened once over 6 seasons of back testing, so i would advocate doing 1% per labby line since your biggest bet will only reach 5units max long run. If your comfortable making 10 unit bets multiple days in a row, then go ahead and be my guest.

            Also would like to note If you kept stagnant unit size your bankroll would be around 150 units before you reach this marker so 10 unit bets shouldn't be too much of a problem.
            Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 04-19-12, 11:00 AM.
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            • njb5572
              SBR High Roller
              • 01-29-12
              • 126

              #146
              I could try and explain it to you but I think it would be easier if I just thanked slapshot in advance for the calc.
              Last edited by njb5572; 04-19-12, 11:04 AM.
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              • Teamprofit101
                SBR Sharp
                • 12-14-11
                • 336

                #147
                JM Disciple, i'm glad you started following this thread..good to have you here

                Sorry guys haven't really had time to post the system i was back testing. It's not much of a system and i don't know if anyone else has came up with it. I just had the idea and started testing it with this season.

                I just started watching baseball so i'm not sure if the schedule stays the same where a team plays each other back to back, but both systems are based on this.

                it's actually two separate systems

                First system- The teams have to play atleast 3 times minimum series....We tail the team that wins the first two games to win the third game and sweep the other team. If 4 game series, and team won first two but lose next game we chase 3rd win on 4th game.

                I started back testing on 4/5 of this year and i haven't finished because i haven't had time..so last series i updated was Reds vs Nationals starting on 4/12-4/15

                Record
                wins -11(1 win was chased,4 game series)
                Losses- 3
                Noplays-17

                I'll post the other system later when i have some more time. I really don't have enough data to come up with a good betting strategy, but hopefully you guys can help with that.
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                • J.M. Disciple
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 11-16-10
                  • 5154

                  #148
                  Anyone on Philly today?

                  NYY is system play today, but im taking Philly as well. -1 is +113 at 5dimes. Have 6 #s on my line so going to cross off 2 with Yanks and 2 with Philly today

                  Get on it!!!

                  They have small favorite, but dominate SD in most categories. Phillies offense always struggles some but SD is just bad, so fingers crossed.
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                  • Teamprofit101
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 12-14-11
                    • 336

                    #149
                    Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                    Anyone on Philly today?

                    NYY is system play today, but im taking Philly as well. -1 is +113 at 5dimes. Have 6 #s on my line so going to cross off 2 with Yanks and 2 with Philly today

                    Get on it!!!

                    They have small favorite, but dominate SD in most categories. Phillies offense always struggles some but SD is just bad, so fingers crossed.
                    Yea philly is a good play, i'm also on it for tonight

                    Good luck!!!
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                    • Teamprofit101
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 12-14-11
                      • 336

                      #150
                      Originally posted by Teamprofit101
                      JM Disciple, i'm glad you started following this thread..good to have you here

                      Sorry guys haven't really had time to post the system i was back testing. It's not much of a system and i don't know if anyone else has came up with it. I just had the idea and started testing it with this season.

                      I just started watching baseball so i'm not sure if the schedule stays the same where a team plays each other back to back, but both systems are based on this.

                      it's actually two separate systems

                      First system- The teams have to play atleast 3 times minimum series....We tail the team that wins the first two games to win the third game and sweep the other team. If 4 game series, and team won first two but lose next game we chase 3rd win on 4th game.

                      I started back testing on 4/5 of this year and i haven't finished because i haven't had time..so last series i updated was Reds vs Nationals starting on 4/12-4/15

                      Record
                      wins -11(1 win was chased,4 game series)
                      Losses- 3
                      Noplays-17

                      I'll post the other system later when i have some more time. I really don't have enough data to come up with a good betting strategy, but hopefully you guys can help with that.

                      Ok so i had sometime to update a little more

                      Series starting 4/5 to 4/13

                      Record
                      Wins - 14
                      Loss - 8

                      I like it but it seems that later into the season it might not be a good system.

                      Now the second system is doing really good, tested same time 4/5-4/13

                      Record
                      Wins - 28
                      Loss - 11

                      The 11 losses can be turned into no losses i think with the right betting strategy. I will continue testing, hopefully within a week i can test last years results
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                      • CrazyCarl
                        SBR MVP
                        • 10-09-11
                        • 1437

                        #151
                        Felt like it should've been a win today. 3 on in the 6th with 1 out... double play.
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                        • J.M. Disciple
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 11-16-10
                          • 5154

                          #152
                          your basically betting the 3rd and 4th game to be a sweep for your system? I do not know if you can call it a system since there does not appear to be a chase method involved, but flat betting or labbying might work. You will need like 5 years of back testing to see what the winning percent of this is.

                          You can probably google how often a team gets swept after losing the first two games of a 3 game series.
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                          • J.M. Disciple
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 11-16-10
                            • 5154

                            #153
                            Originally posted by CrazyCarl
                            Felt like it should've been a win today. 3 on in the 6th with 1 out... double play.
                            i feel like just labbing texas all season!!!
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                            • CrazyCarl
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-09-11
                              • 1437

                              #154
                              Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                              i feel like just labbing texas all season!!!
                              I feel this system is about to start calling for a Texas play quite often.
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                              • Teamprofit101
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 12-14-11
                                • 336

                                #155
                                yea texas has been awesome
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                                • Teamprofit101
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 12-14-11
                                  • 336

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                  your basically betting the 3rd and 4th game to be a sweep for your system? I do not know if you can call it a system since there does not appear to be a chase method involved, but flat betting or labbying might work. You will need like 5 years of back testing to see what the winning percent of this is.

                                  You can probably google how often a team gets swept after losing the first two games of a 3 game series.
                                  Since i'm still looking for information i havent really thought about the best way to manage money.

                                  I will test it some more but i might pass on following it because i like the results to the second system. I'm really just trying to throw ideas out there and maybe someone can spot something else.

                                  Thanks for your response JM
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                                  • Teamprofit101
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 12-14-11
                                    • 336

                                    #157
                                    I updated the spreadsheet a bit https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...0MtN0dmbTZXdmc

                                    I'm running my labby line very flexible due to limited funds and i'm playing money line so i'm paying for a lot more juice.

                                    But i am also tracking the progress of the system based off the wins/losses/percentage

                                    For those following the sheet, let me know if there is anything i can add or remove. I try to add the plays as soon as slapshot releases them.
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                                    • 1gamer
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 02-09-11
                                      • 723

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                      i feel like just labbing texas all season!!!
                                      Great idea JM...I'll tail you buddy...
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                                      • J.M. Disciple
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-16-10
                                        • 5154

                                        #159
                                        4/20/12 TB(-1) Friday

                                        official play for tomorrow.

                                        covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/matchups/g4_summary_11.html
                                        Here is the link for texas tomorrow.

                                        Ill be on texas to help clear 2 #s. Chart looks good and the way they dominated today I do not mind (-106) juice!


                                        *If we labbied texas its last 10 games we be up 9 units already If we took them -1 we still be up quite a bit!
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                                        • J.M. Disciple
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 11-16-10
                                          • 5154

                                          #160
                                          Mange your bankroll guys. 1-2% max as a starting labby line is best approach. I recommend 1% if you are playing other systems cause back test results show you have nearly 40% or 40units in play with a 2 unit labby line. I started this labby line with 2% but after i learned of the worse stretch and the odds decided to be smart!

                                          Bankroll management is key to beating any season. A long with patience.

                                          Ill be on TB and Texas tomorrow both a little under 2units.

                                          >>> PS hope you all enjoyed the Phillys pick i sent.
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                                          • slapshot
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-27-07
                                            • 1194

                                            #161
                                            7-3-5 +5.28 units
                                            wins-losses-pushes

                                            friday
                                            tampa......-1 to win 2.72 units.....'b' level bet


                                            yesterday
                                            new york yankees......-1 to win 2.72 units.....'b' level bet**push**
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                                            • Dom177
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 09-11-11
                                              • 1080

                                              #162
                                              Beware of Texas tonight JM. They have been crazy hot but after last night's miserable performance and 3/4 of the stadium leaving by the 7th inning the Tigers will come out tonight, especially with JV on the mound for them. Just somethin to think about!
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                                              • J.M. Disciple
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 11-16-10
                                                • 5154

                                                #163
                                                Definitely need TB to come through. On3 is on them as well. My personal plays will be on ATL and Texas today.
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                                                • dlunc3
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 10-31-09
                                                  • 9129

                                                  #164
                                                  lookin like C bet on weaver and merry men
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                                                  • J.M. Disciple
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 11-16-10
                                                    • 5154

                                                    #165
                                                    covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/matchups/g4_summary_8.html

                                                    4/21
                                                    Play of day: LAD (-1) vs Houston.
                                                    [c] LEVEL

                                                    Wish 5dimes offered the -1 line sooner.... Juice going to be like -180
                                                    Last edited by J.M. Disciple; 04-21-12, 01:41 AM.
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                                                    • slapshot
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 10-27-07
                                                      • 1194

                                                      #166
                                                      Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                      covers.com/pageLoader/pageLoader.aspx?page=/data/mlb/matchups/g4_summary_8.html

                                                      4/21
                                                      Play of day: LAD (-1) vs Houston.
                                                      [c] LEVEL

                                                      Wish 5dimes offered the -1 line sooner.... Juice going to be like -180
                                                      going with sbr lines dodgers is the biggest favorite of the day. however my data is based on covers opening lines and anaheim is the biggest favorite there.

                                                      pinnacle opening lines at covers i should add.

                                                      best of luck with whatever you play.
                                                      Last edited by slapshot; 04-21-12, 05:32 AM.
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                                                      • slapshot
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-27-07
                                                        • 1194

                                                        #167
                                                        7-4-5 +1.98 units
                                                        wins-losses-pushes

                                                        saturday
                                                        anaheim angels......-1 to win 6.02 units.....'c' level bet


                                                        yesterday
                                                        tampa......-1 to win 2.72 units.....'b' level bet**loser**
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                                                        • J.M. Disciple
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 11-16-10
                                                          • 5154

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by slapshot
                                                          going with sbr lines dodgers is the biggest favorite of the day. however my data is based on covers opening lines and anaheim is the biggest favorite there.

                                                          pinnacle opening lines at covers i should add.

                                                          best of luck with whatever you play.
                                                          Play both and clear 4#s??? Sounds good to me.
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                                                          • J.M. Disciple
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-16-10
                                                            • 5154

                                                            #169
                                                            Originally posted by slapshot
                                                            7-4-5 +1.98 units
                                                            wins-losses-pushes

                                                            saturday
                                                            anaheim angels......-1 to win 6.02 units.....'c' level bet


                                                            yesterday
                                                            tampa......-1 to win 2.72 units.....'b' level bet**loser**
                                                            LA angels same thing right? Not familiar with "Anaheim"
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                                                            • slapshot
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 10-27-07
                                                              • 1194

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                                              Not familiar with "Anaheim"
                                                              fyi...there is team called los angeles angels of anaheim in the league.
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                                                              • OTL
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 03-08-10
                                                                • 2433

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by slapshot
                                                                fyi...there is team called los angeles angels of anaheim in the league.
                                                                Are you 100% sure your play is the LAA? Pinnacle and SBR has the Dodgers as the biggest favourite of the day!
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                                                                • DollarBill10
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 05-06-11
                                                                  • 449

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by OTL
                                                                  Are you 100% sure your play is the LAA? Pinnacle and SBR has the Dodgers as the biggest favourite of the day!
                                                                  As slapshot stated, he used the OPENING line.
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                                                                  • slapshot
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 10-27-07
                                                                    • 1194

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Originally posted by OTL
                                                                    Are you 100% sure your play is the LAA? Pinnacle and SBR has the Dodgers as the biggest favourite of the day!
                                                                    if you read post #1....covers is the source for collecting the data.
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                                                                    • OTL
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-08-10
                                                                      • 2433

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by slapshot
                                                                      if you read post #1....covers is the source for collecting the data.
                                                                      The first post says you use Pinnacle opening lines though. There is no mention of Covers.com.
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                                                                      • DollarBill10
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 05-06-11
                                                                        • 449

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by OTL
                                                                        The first post says you use Pinnacle opening lines though. There is no mention of Covers.com.
                                                                        Covers is where you can find opening lines for many books...
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