on3's MLB 2012 Opening Game system thread 194-8 last year +60 units

[Wallco99]

Wallco jealous that his system "isn't done yet."

Ha.

What does that even mean?

[lapi7]

Hey Wallco...I have OPENING money lines for EVERY game for EVERY team from 1985 through present and OPENING O/U Lines from 1988 through the present.

Just thought I'd let you know.

[Wallco99]

Hey Wallco...I have OPENING money lines for EVERY game for EVERY team from 1985 through present and OPENING O/U Lines from 1988 through the present.

Just thought I'd let you know.

How the hell do you get that?

[J.M. Disciple]

lapi im sure people who back test these systems will give you points for that file or at least some info on where you got the lines from.

LOL STEVE what does that mean?

I think we all made some solid points dick(s) or not. Chound made the biggest point of them all.. if people would just read the thread then there wouldn't be confusion. If you still do not understand the rules to each system go back and read the thread again.

[lapi7]

I have a friend who has kept meticulous records for decades.

I was able to back check several of the more recent years and found not a flaw.

Unlike the vast majority of human beings who are cruel, ignorant and astonishingly greedy this man wields courage, honesty and integrity so I am not dubious about the accuracy of his records.

As a good friend he was kind enough to make copies and sent them to me.

That's how the hell I got them.

[chound]

this man wields courage, honesty and integrity

Did you get them from Steve Rogers or Clark Kent?

[J.M. Disciple]

UPDATED for 07/05/2012
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 89-9-0; Profit: -25
Filtered System: 35-1-0; Profit: +21.75
5/2 chase: 13-1-0; profit: +23.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 54-49; 20-15
Game 2 (B) win = 28-16; 10-6; 8-6
Game 3 (C) win = 7-9; 5-1; 5-1

RESHUFFLED LABBY LINES FOR 07/05/2012
74-74-71-65-60
80-80-86-100
56-40-65-74

New Line Filtered
60-60-65-65

REGULAR FOR 07/06/2012
ARI -105 to win 100
WAS -220/-110 to win 74 - play RL
NY METS -166 to win 71
DET -190/+105 to win 74 -- play RL
CHI -153 to win 65
OAK -155 to win 60

Filtered
DET to win 60 - play RL
CHI WHITE SOX to win 60

5/2
none

bump

[lapi7]

Did you get them from Steve Rogers or Clark Kent?

Obviously words such as courage, honesty and integrity are foreign to you and bear no real weight to you, however they do have great meaning to me.

Only a supposed "man" who is, in reality, just a little boy would make light of the few REAL men who still uphold such valiant attributes.

And since I dishonor myself by going any further I'll answer you in the only way that a child understands...

I got them from Wile E. Coyote.

[Wallco99]

I have a friend who has kept meticulous records for decades.

I was able to back check several of the more recent years and found not a flaw.

Unlike the vast majority of human beings who are cruel, ignorant and astonishingly greedy this man wields courage, honesty and integrity so I am not dubious about the accuracy of his records.

As a good friend he was kind enough to make copies and sent them to me.

That's how the hell I got them.

So what are the results of the 10 year backtest on this system? Hopefully you've done it, since you and Mr. Coyote are the only two people on the planet with such records.

[Mr. Green]

Are the Pirates a play?

[Nino7]

wallco99 why dont you post your super MLB system so everyone can profit?

[chound]

Obviously words such as courage, honesty and integrity are foreign to you and bear no real weight to you, however they do have great meaning to me.

Only a supposed "man" who is, in reality, just a little boy would make light of the few REAL men who still uphold such valiant attributes.

And since I dishonor myself by going any further I'll answer you in the only way that a child understands...

I got them from Wile E. Coyote.

Lighten up little boy....you were the one who came on here posting those words. A simple you have the data would have been enough but you had to go through this whole SUPERMAN spill. I value honor, honesty and integrity and I've even tried to contribute how I run my labby, which I have good success with and a few words of advice for those willing to listen...What have you contributed or even attempted to ?????

Prove me wrong but with the whole spill you posted after reading only sounded as some lame reason not to share the results with those that would be interested if you even have them.

[thelimit0310]

Only posting today to make sure the plays are correct, because once again there were qualifier bets for the 5/2 that were not official bets yesterday.

The plays for 5/2 are:

Texas Bet 1
Pittsburgh Bet 1

[chound]

Only posting today to make sure the plays are correct, because once again there were qualifier bets for the 5/2 that were not official bets yesterday.

The plays for 5/2 are:

Texas Bet 1
Pittsburgh Bet 1

Unless on3 objects I think if you would be kind enough to continue posting the plays everyone would appreciate it. This would eliminate any confusion for those that haven't been following since your rules were posted or wont read the previous posts.

[on3]

Washington RL and Mets ML are the system plays today. Will update in a bit.

In a rare occurrence, we also have two 5/2 plays that aren't system plays, Pittsburgh and Texas, per thelimit.

[Win89]

Only posting today to make sure the plays are correct, because once again there were qualifier bets for the 5/2 that were not official bets yesterday.

The plays for 5/2 are:

Texas Bet 1
Pittsburgh Bet 1

Covers has Pittsburgh closing at -147 with a total of 8.5.

[Nino7]

its about 5Dimes i think

[Win89]

That is 5dimes. covers.com/sports/odds/linehistory.aspx?eventId=335210&sport=ml b

[lapi7]

Lighten up little boy....you were the one who came on here posting those words. A simple you have the data would have been enough but you had to go through this whole SUPERMAN spill. I value honor, honesty and integrity and I've even tried to contribute how I run my labby, which I have good success with and a few words of advice for those willing to listen...What have you contributed or even attempted to ?????

Prove me wrong but with the whole spill you posted after reading only sounded as some lame reason not to share the results with those that would be interested if you even have them.

I have a REAL life.
One that involves actually HELPING and CARING for other human beings.
My life does not revolve around sports betting.
I have contributed more to other peoples welfare than you could ever dream of.
And since only an insane person would attempt to reason with an insane person I'm putting this issue to bed.
My office is located in upstate N.Y., however if you need Psychological help i'm certain that you can find a Dr. or therapist somewhere close to where you reside.
Please find somebody else to enjoy an argument with...but as for me this matter bears no further discussion !!!

[chound]

I have a REAL life.
One that involves actually HELPING and CARING for other human beings.
My life does not revolve around sports betting.
I have contributed more to other peoples welfare than you could ever dream of.
And since only an insane person would attempt to reason with an insane person I'm putting this issue to bed.
Please find somebody else to enjoy an argument with...but as for me this matter bears no further discussion !!!

I wasn't trying to argue...just stating an opinion....thank you for proving my point for me....and obviously in your real life you don't deal with REAL people because if you did you would realize you went from calling me childish because I found a little humor in your statment to isane because I stated an opinion which most likely by your last post will in the end be a fact...

I'm done as well and good luck on your WORLD HUMANITIES TOUR

[darkmatter117]

Covers has Pittsburgh closing at -147 with a total of 8.5.

I'm assuming thelimit used the Scoreboard page to get closing lines for his backtests. (That's much quicker than checking the Line Moves page for every game.) Those odds show -145 and 9. It may be that the odds on the Scoreboard page aren't based on 5dimes. That said, SBR's own odds page shows -147 and 9 as 5dimes' closing lines.

[chound]

I'm assuming thelimit used the Scoreboard page to get closing lines for his backtests. (That's much quicker than checking the Line Moves page for every game.) Those odds show -145 and 9. It may be that the odds on the Scoreboard page aren't based on 5dimes. That said, SBR's own odds page shows -147 and 9 as 5dimes' closing lines.

Thanks for pointing that out because if you hadn't someone would most likely question the play or where he found the lines

[darkmatter117]

And guys, I don't want to be rude, but please keep the petty personal arguments out of the thread. There are already 2,200+ posts in here. No wonder no one wants to read through it all to understand the system.

We need a string of winning nights here. Maybe the tempers will cool when everyone is in the black.

[Wallco99]

I'm assuming thelimit used the Scoreboard page to get closing lines for his backtests. (That's much quicker than checking the Line Moves page for every game.) Those odds show -145 and 9. It may be that the odds on the Scoreboard page aren't based on 5dimes. That said, SBR's own odds page shows -147 and 9 as 5dimes' closing lines.

Actually, he mentioned he used CLOSING lines at Covers.com. If Pittsburgh was 8.5 on there, then beat me with a pole, I have no idea how it's a play.

[Wallco99]

Covers has Pittsburgh closing at -147 with a total of 8.5.

Tell me where you see 8.5 in this line score:

07/06/12

SF

L 5-6

Barry Zito (L)

Erik Bedard (L)

L -145

O 9 -101

This is the final line from Covers, which limit uses, Limit is correct. This is exactly what I was talking about yesterday when people jumped down my throat. Let the guys posting the plays run the thread and everyone else just say "thanks". It's like people are going to EVERY site possible to try to find a set of lines that will try to qualify EVERY team as a play, or not a play. Both of these guys use one set of lines. From what I understand, on3 uses 5Dimes, and limit uses Covers. The rest of the lines, who the hell cares. And when you are going to sites that list all lines for all the sites, these numbers are usually skewed from the actual lines. If you want the lines for Covers, go to Covers. Not some half ass link at the top of this page that shows you every sportsbook on the continent, half of which aren't updated as frequently as the sites they quote.

[on3]

UPDATED for 07/07/2012
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 93-9-0; Profit: -20 units
Filtered System: 37-1-0; Profit: +27.75 units
5/2 chase: 13-1-0; profit: +23.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 57-49; 22-15
Game 2 (B) win = 29-16; 10-6; 8-6
Game 3 (C) win = 7-9; 5-1; 5-1

LABBY LINES FOR 07/07/2012
59-69-61-55
80-134-131-x
56-40-65-74

New Line Filtered
x-x-65-65

REGULAR FOR 07/07/2012
(B) WAS -195/+110 to win 131 - play RL
(B) NY METS -145 to win 134

Filtered
none

5/2
TEXAS to win 100
PITTSBURGH to win 100

[Win89]

Tell me where you see 8.5 in this line score:

07/06/12

SF

L 5-6

Barry Zito (L)

Erik Bedard (L)

L -145

O 9 -101

This is the final line from Covers, which limit uses, Limit is correct. This is exactly what I was talking about yesterday when people jumped down my throat. Let the guys posting the plays run the thread and everyone else just say "thanks". It's like people are going to EVERY site possible to try to find a set of lines that will try to qualify EVERY team as a play, or not a play. Both of these guys use one set of lines. From what I understand, on3 uses 5Dimes, and limit uses Covers. The rest of the lines, who the hell cares. And when you are going to sites that list all lines for all the sites, these numbers are usually skewed from the actual lines. If you want the lines for Covers, go to Covers. Not some half ass link at the top of this page that shows you every sportsbook on the continent, half of which aren't updated as frequently as the sites they quote.

I already posted a link to 5dimes closing line. No on is trying to manipulate plays on here, I stated what I saw and covers had 8.5 chill out.

[Wallco99]

I already posted a link to 5dimes closing line. No on is trying to manipulate plays on here, I stated what I saw and covers had 8.5 chill out.

Sorry, didn't see your second post, nor understood what you meant by it.

[on3]

Hopefully Texas cleans us up heading to the break.

[WSnipez]

brooms.

[J.M. Disciple]

No new plays until the 13th

[Wallco99]

No new plays until the 13th

I say we all have a homework assignment for the next 5 days. Everyone come up with a theory, backtest it, and the one that has the best results we start playing on the 13th as well. Just a thought to keep everyone busy.

[on3]

UPDATED for 07/08/2012
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 95-9-0; Profit: -6.75 units
Filtered System: 37-1-0; Profit: +27.75 units
5/2 chase: 15-1-0; profit: +33.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 57-49; 22-15
Game 2 (B) win = 31-16; 10-6; 10-6
Game 3 (C) win = 7-9; 5-1; 5-1

LABBY LINES FOR 07/08/2012
59-69-61-55
80-x-x-x
56-40-65-74

New Line Filtered
x-x-65-65

REGULAR FOR 07/08/2012
none

Filtered
none

5/2
none

[allidoiswin89]

UPDATED for 07/08/2012
System(s) record Chase:
Regular system: 95-9-0; Profit: -6.75 units
Filtered System: 37-1-0; Profit: +27.75 units
5/2 chase: 15-1-0; profit: +33.5 units

Records: (regular, filtered, 5/2)
Game 1 (A) win = 57-49; 22-15
Game 2 (B) win = 31-16; 10-6; 10-6
Game 3 (C) win = 7-9; 5-1; 5-1

LABBY LINES FOR 07/08/2012
59-69-61-55
80-x-x-x
56-40-65-74

New Line Filtered
x-x-65-65

REGULAR FOR 07/08/2012
none

Filtered
none

5/2
none

Hmmm imagine that. Put your biggest numbers on b line and look at the benefits...now only if you had been doing that all year you'd be +20 units and that is being conservative

[chound]

Its easy to call it after the fact.....that b line could of been the worst winning percent.