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  • redsband
    Restricted User
    • 05-18-11
    • 51

    #1086
    Good record there. good for you.
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    • ShivaBowl
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 03-09-10
      • 5133

      #1087
      Originally posted by BrewMaster
      Guys, I can't do SA today I'm in corporate meetings all day. Sorry!
      Thanks BM,
      NYM if <-136 and under
      BOL
      Last edited by ShivaBowl; 06-23-11, 10:00 AM.
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      • ShivaBowl
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 03-09-10
        • 5133

        #1088
        M/L Plays Fav must be < -140
        NYM, If >-130


        S/A Plays
        NYM, If <-136

        BPR Plays
        Philly 5.16
        Mets 1.39

        TPR Plays
        NYM, No Play if >-150

        H/A Plays
        WAS, 129.9—1395.5

        P/T Plays
        SEA, No Play SEA L/2


        Complimentary Selection from ST, for 6/23/2011
        Take NY Mets W/Capuano over Oakland W/Godfrey NO PLAY if > -140


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        • barts185
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 12-13-09
          • 815

          #1089
          Originally posted by HoulihansTX
          I'm all for only using the home team line as an indicator. I think that's how I used the system a year ago, but some how my line of thinkin became convoluted.

          They way yesterdays Free play was listed almost cements that the home team line is the indicator.

          There's been plenty of times when the away team's line was listed on the free play. When the free play is on the away team, the away team's line is listed as the indicator almost all of the time. Obviously not 100%, but listing the home team's line as the indicator when the away team is the play is definitely an exception.


          Without wanting to get into a big debate over it, one reason that your thinking may have become convoluted on using the home team as an indicator is that there have been times where there was a play and using the home team line it would not have been a play but using the away team line it would have been a play. I'm pretty sure I directly asked the question "Can I just use the home team's projected line and actual line" and the answer was no. Maybe that's changed, or maybe it was never clearly defined.

          If using the home team's proj line and actual ML is the way to go, that would be great.
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          • HoulihansTX
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-12-09
            • 30566

            #1090
            Yes it would certainly be easier. Also seems like a practical solution.
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            • Formulawiz
              Restricted User
              • 01-12-09
              • 1589

              #1091
              Originally posted by barts185
              There's been plenty of times when the away team's line was listed on the free play. When the free play is on the away team, the away team's line is listed as the indicator almost all of the time. Obviously not 100%, but listing the home team's line as the indicator when the away team is the play is definitely an exception.


              Without wanting to get into a big debate over it, one reason that your thinking may have become convoluted on using the home team as an indicator is that there have been times where there was a play and using the home team line it would not have been a play but using the away team line it would have been a play. I'm pretty sure I directly asked the question "Can I just use the home team's projected line and actual line" and the answer was no. Maybe that's changed, or maybe it was never clearly defined.

              If using the home team's proj line and actual ML is the way to go, that would be great.
              Its always been the HT ML vs the Proj ML since I started the thread 2 years ago and thats the way I use the ML system.
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              • rask7rask7
                SBR High Roller
                • 10-01-10
                • 159

                #1092
                I took NY Mets -132. Thank you
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                • Formulawiz
                  Restricted User
                  • 01-12-09
                  • 1589

                  #1093
                  ML system went 1-0, +1.0 unit

                  YTD 61-34, 18.85 units

                  Would like to clarify my explanation of ML system yesterday. I was referring to the HT when they are a FAV only. If the HT is a dog you need to compare the AT ML to the PROJ ML.
                  EX: today you have LAA at -140 and LAD is +120 and lets say proj ML is +110 or +105. The play is on LAA due to the fact LAD/LAA should be a pick and LAA is getting 140 which is well above the 25 cent diff.
                  I hope I cleared things up.

                  Plays later today
                  Last edited by Formulawiz; 06-24-11, 07:41 AM.
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                  • Formulawiz
                    Restricted User
                    • 01-12-09
                    • 1589

                    #1094
                    Todays ML picks. FAV must be < -140

                    PHI?, TB, CWS, LAA
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                    • ShivaBowl
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 03-09-10
                      • 5133

                      #1095
                      TPR system went 1-0 yesterday.
                      Start Date 05/01
                      55-65 –13.32u

                      H/A system went 1-0 yesterday.
                      Start Date 05/29
                      28-21 +3.55u

                      P/T Power Plays went 0-0 yesterday.
                      Start Date 06/12
                      9-10 –1.00u


                      TPR System Plays
                      Filter No Play if >-150
                      MLW 1.4
                      BOS 2.4 No Play BOS L/2

                      H/A System Plays
                      Filter No Play if >-150
                      PHI, 77.1 --- 560.3
                      ARZ 1/2U
                      WAS 1/2U
                      TOR, 65.2 --- 643.6 No Play TOR L/4

                      P/T System Plays
                      Filter No Play if >-150
                      PHI
                      WAS
                      TAM
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                      • barts185
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 12-13-09
                        • 815

                        #1096
                        Originally posted by Formulawiz
                        Todays ML picks. FAV must be < -140

                        PHI?, TB, CWS, LAA
                        I would appreciate if you could explain how PHI is even a possible play.

                        Proj ML is -185. Actual ML is -160.

                        That would indicate that the value is on PHI, which I thought would mean the play would be on OAK, if there was a play at all (OAK is on a 2 game losing streak).

                        I'm not even taking into account the line which is way over the -140 or -150 filter.
                        Last edited by barts185; 06-24-11, 09:18 AM.
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                        • HoulihansTX
                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                          • 02-12-09
                          • 30566

                          #1097
                          Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                          Official start (May 15 - Current)
                          Overall

                          (114-98)
                          54% +12.5 Units

                          ___________________
                          Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                          June 23
                          Bullpen Projection System

                          Philly 5.16 L (+100)
                          Mets 1.39
                          W (-135)
                          March 26 to May 14
                          Overall
                          (68-52) +22.56 Units

                          Official start (May 15 - Current)
                          Overall

                          (115-99)
                          54% +12.5 Units
                          ___________________
                          Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                          June 24
                          Bullpen Projection System

                          Yanks 4.72
                          Mets 4.29
                          Angels 4.24
                          Tampa 3.24
                          Cincy 2.44

                          No Plays
                          Minny np L2 5.95
                          Toronto np L2 3.67
                          Wash np (CWS W2) 3.49
                          Philly np >-150 2.61
                          KC np L2 2.29
                          Cleve np (SF W2) 1.86

                          Last edited by HoulihansTX; 06-24-11, 09:22 AM. Reason: Added Philly to NP list.
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                          • BrewMaster
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 12-03-10
                            • 555

                            #1098
                            23Jun11 Result:1-0
                            Record Official Start 15May11: 71-67 (+4.10 units)

                            Scientific Approach 24Jun11:


                            COL, -107 (np <+118)
                            TB, -169 (np <-144)
                            WAS, -176
                            ANA, -156 (np <-131)

                            Filtered (TEX, KC, TOR, CLE)
                            System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck
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                            • BrewMaster
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 12-03-10
                              • 555

                              #1099
                              Great overlap today. Personally, I'm liking ARZ, TB and ANA. What do you guys think?
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                              • joeytunes
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 12-29-10
                                • 449

                                #1100
                                tb is in every system thats gonna b my big boi
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                                • Formulawiz
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 01-12-09
                                  • 1589

                                  #1101
                                  Originally posted by barts185
                                  I would appreciate if you could explain how PHI is even a possible play.

                                  Proj ML is -185. Actual ML is -160.

                                  That would indicate that the value is on PHI, which I thought would mean the play would be on OAK, if there was a play at all (OAK is on a 2 game losing streak).

                                  I'm not even taking into account the line which is way over the -140 or -150 filter.

                                  Your correct, my error.
                                  Thanks
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                                  • Formulawiz
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 01-12-09
                                    • 1589

                                    #1102
                                    Todays ML plays

                                    ATL, TB, CWS, LAA

                                    I accidentally was looking at the wrong chart .
                                    Last edited by Formulawiz; 06-24-11, 09:49 AM.
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                                    • Formulawiz
                                      Restricted User
                                      • 01-12-09
                                      • 1589

                                      #1103
                                      Originally posted by barts185
                                      I would appreciate if you could explain how PHI is even a possible play.

                                      Proj ML is -185. Actual ML is -160.

                                      That would indicate that the value is on PHI, which I thought would mean the play would be on OAK, if there was a play at all (OAK is on a 2 game losing streak).

                                      I'm not even taking into account the line which is way over the -140 or -150 filter.
                                      PHI should have been ATL
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                                      • Tommygunn
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 02-26-09
                                        • 669

                                        #1104
                                        Take Arizona W/Duke over Detroit W/Coke NO PLAY if < +135
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                                        • HoulihansTX
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 02-12-09
                                          • 30566

                                          #1105
                                          23Jun11 Result:1-0
                                          Record Official Start 15May11: 71-67 (+4.10 units)


                                          .
                                          I remember when this system was showing no returns. Good turn around Brew
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                                          • barts185
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 12-13-09
                                            • 815

                                            #1106
                                            Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                            Todays ML plays

                                            ATL, TB, CWS, LAA

                                            I accidentally was looking at the wrong chart .
                                            Probably getting myself in trouble, but I'm confused by some of the plays listed.

                                            ATL has the value, not sure how they are the play.

                                            TB has the value, not sure how they are the play.

                                            CWS I could see as a play at the line listed on the page (-130, I think -125 or worse is a play), but that doesn't exist.

                                            LAA I could see as a play at the line listed on the page (-140), but this is the one where I'm not sure what to use when comparing the LAA projected line to the actual ML.

                                            The proj ML is LAD +110. So, LAA are the favorites. But what line are you using for the LAA projected ML to compare to the LAA actual ML? -110 so they would be the play at -135 or worse? Something else?

                                            Thanks.
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                                            • staf
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 11-11-07
                                              • 2521

                                              #1107
                                              Originally posted by barts185
                                              Probably getting myself in trouble, but I'm confused by some of the plays listed.

                                              ATL has the value, not sure how they are the play.

                                              TB has the value, not sure how they are the play.

                                              CWS I could see as a play at the line listed on the page (-130, I think -125 or worse is a play), but that doesn't exist.

                                              LAA I could see as a play at the line listed on the page (-140), but this is the one where I'm not sure what to use when comparing the LAA projected line to the actual ML.

                                              The proj ML is LAD +110. So, LAA are the favorites. But what line are you using for the LAA projected ML to compare to the LAA actual ML? -110 so they would be the play at -135 or worse? Something else?

                                              Thanks.
                                              Using the lines from the sportrends ml page, all I'm getting tonight as a play is Houston.
                                              These are filtered out by streaks.
                                              Detroit
                                              Oakland
                                              Texas
                                              Chicago Sox
                                              San Diego

                                              What's everybody else getting?
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                                              • HoulihansTX
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 02-12-09
                                                • 30566

                                                #1108
                                                I agree with Staf.

                                                I layed off of Houston B/c Tampa has been killing it with the BPR. Add the fact that Houston is 20 games under .500.
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                                                • agos
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 01-30-11
                                                  • 54

                                                  #1109
                                                  Keep up the good work guys!
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                                                  • Formulawiz
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 01-12-09
                                                    • 1589

                                                    #1110
                                                    ML system went 2-2, -0.25 units

                                                    YTD 63-36, +18.6 units

                                                    Plays later today
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                                                    • BrewMaster
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 12-03-10
                                                      • 555

                                                      #1111
                                                      24Jun11 Result: 4-0
                                                      Record Official Start 15May11: 75-67 (+8.35 units)

                                                      Scientific Approach 25Jun11:


                                                      WAS, -127
                                                      CIN, -186
                                                      MLW, -212

                                                      Filtered (CLE, ATL)
                                                      System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck
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                                                      • BrewMaster
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 12-03-10
                                                        • 555

                                                        #1112
                                                        Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                        23Jun11 Result:1-0
                                                        Record Official Start 15May11: 71-67 (+4.10 units)


                                                        .
                                                        I remember when this system was showing no returns. Good turn around Brew

                                                        Just from what I've been observing on the SA system, it can be VERY streaky. It's good to hop on when the previous night was a winning night. Same with the losing streaks. Check out my spreadsheet and you'll see what I mean. This thread is great because all the systems combined are great statistical tools and provide awesome checks and balances.

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                                                        • HoulihansTX
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 02-12-09
                                                          • 30566

                                                          #1113
                                                          Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                          Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                          Overall

                                                          (115-99)
                                                          54% +12.5 Units

                                                          ___________________
                                                          Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                          June 24
                                                          Bullpen Projection System

                                                          Yanks 4.72 L (-135)
                                                          Mets 4.29 L (+155)
                                                          Angels 4.24 W (-125)
                                                          Tampa 3.24 W (-125)
                                                          Cincy 2.44
                                                          L (-115)
                                                          March 26 to May 14
                                                          Overall
                                                          (68-52) +22.56 Units

                                                          Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                          Overall

                                                          (117-102)
                                                          53% +11.05 Units
                                                          ___________________
                                                          Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                          June 25
                                                          Bullpen Projection System

                                                          Toronto 7.98
                                                          Cincy 3.50
                                                          Mets 3.40
                                                          Tampa 3.02
                                                          Angels 1.96
                                                          Seattle 1.91

                                                          No Plays
                                                          Minny np L2 4.73
                                                          Yanks np >-150/L2 3.50
                                                          Philly np >-150 2.29
                                                          Cleve np(SF W2) 1.81
                                                          Atl np(Padres W2) 1.32
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                                                          • Formulawiz
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 01-12-09
                                                            • 1589

                                                            #1114
                                                            Todays ML plays. Fav must be < -140

                                                            SD, CIN, STL?
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                                                            • ShivaBowl
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-09-10
                                                              • 5133

                                                              #1115
                                                              TPR system went 1-0 yesterday.
                                                              Start Date 05/01
                                                              56-65 –12.32u

                                                              H/A system went 2-0 yesterday.
                                                              PHI –171 No Play
                                                              Start Date 05/29
                                                              30-21 +4.64u

                                                              P/T Power Plays went 2-0 yesterday.
                                                              Start Date 06/12
                                                              11-10 +1.02u
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                                                              • ShivaBowl
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-09-10
                                                                • 5133

                                                                #1116
                                                                M/L System Plays
                                                                FAV must be < -140
                                                                SD
                                                                CIN
                                                                STL

                                                                S/A System Plays
                                                                FAV must be < -150
                                                                WAS

                                                                CIN
                                                                MLW

                                                                TPR System Plays
                                                                Filter No Play if >-150
                                                                MLW 1.4
                                                                BOS 2.3 No Play BOS L/3

                                                                H/A System Plays
                                                                Filter No Play if >-150
                                                                PIT, 88.4—549.1
                                                                STL, 88.1—952.8
                                                                PHI, 82.4—836.7
                                                                MLW, 1/2U 40.9—415.3
                                                                SFO, 1/2U 22.4—525.3
                                                                ATL, No Play SDP W/3
                                                                HOU, No Play TAM W/2

                                                                P/T Power Plays

                                                                Filter No Play if >-150
                                                                PIT
                                                                SEA
                                                                PHI
                                                                ATL No Play SDP W/3

                                                                BPR System Plays
                                                                Filter No Play if >-150
                                                                TOR, 7.98
                                                                CIN, 3.50
                                                                NYM, 3.40
                                                                TAM, 3.02
                                                                LAA, 1.96
                                                                SEA, 1.91

                                                                BPR
                                                                No Plays
                                                                Minny np L2 4.73
                                                                Yanks np >-150/L2 3.50
                                                                Philly np >-150 2.29
                                                                Cleve np(SF W2) 1.81
                                                                Atl np(Padres W2) 1.32
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                                                                • shawn226
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 06-25-11
                                                                  • 18

                                                                  #1117
                                                                  Hi guys, I'm new here. Yesterday I got Sportrends Fastball Baseball program... and spoke to Sam for a while also - real nice guy. Wonder if I could ask you a bit of advice on it please pertaining to best use. I did some playing around with the software yesterday and it looks like the software itself generates its own daily picks and "Best Bets", but on the sportrends website there appear to be some more baseball systems which are manual in nature, namely:



                                                                  and the 4 others found on:


                                                                  (Projected Money Line, Bullpen Projected Runs, etc)

                                                                  I'm just a little bit confused about the best way to use all of this. Does the system built into in the software incorporate any or all of these 5 manual systems already when making its decisions, or are the manual ones completely separate systems? If they're separate systems, should one play all of them simultaneously? Or just take the picks that "in common" to several of them?
                                                                  My goal is to simply find the very best, most reliable picks and combine them into 2-game parlays. For instance, if the software gave 6 picks for today, then I would make 3 2-game parlays out of them.
                                                                  A fair number of questions I know! Thank you and sorry to be a bother!

                                                                  Cheers
                                                                  Shawn
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                                                                  • Tommygunn
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 02-26-09
                                                                    • 669

                                                                    #1118
                                                                    Take Pittsburgh W/Karstens over Boston W/Wakefield NO PLAY if < +130
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                                                                    • Formulawiz
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 01-12-09
                                                                      • 1589

                                                                      #1119
                                                                      Originally posted by shawn226
                                                                      Hi guys, I'm new here. Yesterday I got Sportrends Fastball Baseball program... and spoke to Sam for a while also - real nice guy. Wonder if I could ask you a bit of advice on it please pertaining to best use. I did some playing around with the software yesterday and it looks like the software itself generates its own daily picks and "Best Bets", but on the sportrends website there appear to be some more baseball systems which are manual in nature, namely:



                                                                      and the 4 others found on:


                                                                      (Projected Money Line, Bullpen Projected Runs, etc)

                                                                      I'm just a little bit confused about the best way to use all of this. Does the system built into in the software incorporate any or all of these 5 manual systems already when making its decisions, or are the manual ones completely separate systems? If they're separate systems, should one play all of them simultaneously? Or just take the picks that "in common" to several of them?
                                                                      My goal is to simply find the very best, most reliable picks and combine them into 2-game parlays. For instance, if the software gave 6 picks for today, then I would make 3 2-game parlays out of them.
                                                                      A fair number of questions I know! Thank you and sorry to be a bother!

                                                                      Cheers
                                                                      Shawn
                                                                      The systems found on the sportrends website are completely different from the systems found in the software.
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                                                                      • shawn226
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 06-25-11
                                                                        • 18

                                                                        #1120
                                                                        OK thanks Formulawiz... may I ask how would be the best way to work all of these systems? Play all their picks separately? Is one system "better" than another... can some be ignored? May how ask how you yourself do it?

                                                                        Cheers
                                                                        Shawn
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