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  • HoulihansTX
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    • 02-12-09
    • 30566

    #876
    Originally posted by grilldog24
    WHAT TIME DOES THE HA OVERS GET PUT UP ! NEVER PLAYED THEM BUT SOMEONE SAID THEY ARE THE PLAYS TO PLAY
    GrillD. Please exercise patience in regards to the time it takes to post the systems.

    Just know that they will be posted either ASAP early bird, or @ least an hour B4 the first pitch.

    Thanks
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    • ShivaBowl
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 03-09-10
      • 5133

      #877
      FYI: If anyone wants to do some work and take over the TPR System, please send me a PM. chinoloco ?
      Thanks


      Sportrends, has updated their Pitching and Team Overall Power Rating System.
      I now have to scrap the old system and start a new P/T system as of today
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      • grilldog24
        SBR High Roller
        • 03-29-11
        • 193

        #878
        SORRY ABOUT THAT !
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        • HoulihansTX
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 02-12-09
          • 30566

          #879
          Originally posted by ShivaBowl
          TPR system went 2-1 yesterday. TEX –136 L DET –118 W CIN +143 W Start Date 05/01 48-53 –8.34u
          Start Date 05/01
          48-53 –8.34u

          TPR 6/12

          Texas 1.8
          Detroit 1.7
          Cincy 1.1
          CWS 1.0

          I can do this for the remainder of the season. As I have been tracking this myself.
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          • barts185
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 12-13-09
            • 815

            #880
            Originally posted by ShivaBowl
            FYI: If anyone wants to do some work and take over the TPR System, please send me a PM. chinoloco ?
            Thanks


            Sportrends, has updated their Pitching and Team Overall Power Rating System.
            I now have to scrap the old system and start a new P/T system as of today

            It just looks like they added more things on that page ( http://sportrends.com/team_pr_mlb.htm).

            Do you know that they actually changed the way that they are calculating the P-Power and T-Power?

            P-Power and T-Power are still there and the explanation at the top didn't change.

            If they didn't change it, why scrap the old system?
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            • Small Timer
              SBR Sharp
              • 01-12-11
              • 389

              #881
              Originally posted by HoulihansTX
              Thanks. And Yes Minny sucks, but this guy Colby Lewis for the Rangers is trash also.
              Good Call
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              • barts185
                SBR Wise Guy
                • 12-13-09
                • 815

                #882
                Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                GrillD. Please exercise patience in regards to the time it takes to post the systems.

                Just know that they will be posted either ASAP early bird, or @ least an hour B4 the first pitch.

                Thanks
                For what it's worth, I've become convinced that this is just someone making posts in different threads for the points, I plan on ignoring him going forward.
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                • barts185
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 12-13-09
                  • 815

                  #883
                  The site is listing the wrong number of innings pitched for D. Davis of the CUBS. Normally I don't comment (and normally it's the other way around, with ST counting innings pitched as a reliever, which I think is wrong, but not looking to get into that debate).

                  In this case, they have him (D. Davis of the CUBS) with less than 20 IP when he has more than 20 IP, so it could affect systems.

                  Best guess since they are showing 19.2 IP is that they missed his last start, with 4.1 IP to bring his total to 24.0 IP
                  Last edited by barts185; 06-12-11, 10:04 AM.
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                  • grilldog24
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 03-29-11
                    • 193

                    #884
                    LOOK DUDE COOL OUT ! DONT BE A PUNK B---- , JUST ASKING QUESTONS . GET A LIFE
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                    • Formulawiz
                      Restricted User
                      • 01-12-09
                      • 1589

                      #885
                      Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                      Sportrends, has updated their Pitching and Team Overall Power Rating System.
                      I now have to scrap the old system and start a new P/T system as of today.
                      Its the same I believe they only added the Due Factor
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                      • barts185
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 12-13-09
                        • 815

                        #886
                        Originally posted by barts185
                        It just looks like they added more things on that page ( http://sportrends.com/team_pr_mlb.htm).

                        Do you know that they actually changed the way that they are calculating the P-Power and T-Power?

                        P-Power and T-Power are still there and the explanation at the top didn't change.

                        If they didn't change it, why scrap the old system?

                        Also, once they stop changing the layout (not saying they should if they are adding more things which they think are useful), I have a spreadsheet that will do the calculations and point out the teams they say have less than 20 IP, so would make it easier. I haven't had a chance to add all the filters, so still have to check some, but it shows which teams fit the P-Power, which teams fit the T-Power, and the difference in the projected runs when it is 2 or more. All done in a couple of seconds. If the layout stabilizes, I'll put it here.
                        Last edited by barts185; 06-12-11, 10:11 AM. Reason: expanded explanation
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                        • Formulawiz
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                          • 01-12-09
                          • 1589

                          #887
                          Originally posted by barts185
                          The site is listing the wrong number of innings pitched for D. Davis of the CUBS. Normally I don't comment (and normally it's the other way around, with ST counting innings pitched as a reliever, which I think is wrong, but not looking to get into that debate).

                          In this case, they have him (D. Davis of the CUBS) with less than 20 IP when he has more than 20 IP, so it could affect systems.

                          Best guess since they are showing 19.2 IP is that they missed his last start, with 4.1 IP to bring his total to 24.0 IP
                          I believe its 24 IP.
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                          • ShivaBowl
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 03-09-10
                            • 5133

                            #888
                            Originally posted by Formulawiz
                            Its the same I believe they only added the Due Factor
                            Its all new calculations on what is a play or not.
                            Are you looking at the same thing as I am?
                            Now you have to factor in the P-DF and the T-DF please read it again.
                            The old system is out.
                            TKS
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                            • ShivaBowl
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 03-09-10
                              • 5133

                              #889
                              Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                              Start Date 05/01 48-53 –8.34u TPR 6/12 Texas 1.8 Detroit 1.7 Cincy 1.1 CWS 1.0 I can do this for the remainder of the season. As I have been tracking this myself.
                              Thanks TX I need to here from chinoloco ?? I gave him first ..

                              CWS No Play OAK IP <-20
                              No Play if >-150 ?
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                              • barts185
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 12-13-09
                                • 815

                                #890
                                Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                Its all new calculations on what is a play or not.
                                Are you looking at the same thing as I am?
                                Now you have to factor in the P-DF and the T-DF please read it again.
                                The old system is out.
                                TKS
                                http://www.sportrends.com/team_pr_mlb.htm

                                The P-Power and T-Power are still there, and appear to be the same. Just because they added other things, doesn't mean that the other system has changed. If you want to update it, or make a new system taking into account the new factors, that's fine.

                                As of right now, they don't even have an explanation of how to use the Team Due Factor. They say to use 20 or more for the Pitching due factor. While that's the same as the pitching power rating difference, don't want to presume that Team due factor needs a difference of 100.
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                                • ShivaBowl
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 03-09-10
                                  • 5133

                                  #891
                                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                  Thanks. And I see the new system, that they have started. It seems more convoluted than ever.
                                  It’s a madhouse
                                  Last edited by ShivaBowl; 06-12-11, 12:27 PM.
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                                  • barts185
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-13-09
                                    • 815

                                    #892
                                    Here's the current version of the spreadsheet with today's games.

                                    Again, since the layout keeps changing, not sure if this will work on subsequent days. I can easily add the Due Factors once I know what they are for the team difference.


                                    Apparently the Angels are expected to score a lot today (or Kansas City is expected to give up a lot of runs).


                                    Edit - I added the pitching due factor to the spreadsheet. I also added a column for the team due factor, but it isn't calculating anything since I don't know what to use for the difference.

                                    Column J lists the teams where the pitcher has less than 20 innings pitched.
                                    Column K lists the team if they qualify for P-Power
                                    Column L lists the team if they qualify for T-Power
                                    Column M lists the team if they have a 2.0 or higher run difference. It also shows the run difference.
                                    Column N lists the team if they qualify for pitching due factor.
                                    Attached Files
                                    Last edited by barts185; 06-12-11, 10:58 AM. Reason: Added Pitching Due Factor and explanation of columns
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                                    • ShivaBowl
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 03-09-10
                                      • 5133

                                      #893
                                      06/12/11
                                      TPR System Plays
                                      DET 1.9
                                      TEX 1.8
                                      CIN 1.1
                                      CWS 1.0 np OAK IP <-20 CWS was a Play and a WIN but its to late know I missed it.

                                      H/A System Plays
                                      DET
                                      MLW
                                      WAS
                                      SFO
                                      ATL

                                      H/A Total Plays
                                      ½ Units today due to the # of plays.
                                      DET & SEA Over 7 –115
                                      NYY & CLE Over 10 –115
                                      HOU & ATL Over 7.5 +105
                                      MLW & STL Over 8 –115
                                      SDP & WAS Over 6.5 +105
                                      SFG & CIN Over 7 -110

                                      P/T Power Plays
                                      BOS
                                      ATL
                                      MLW
                                      SFO
                                      Ok I fixed it >-175
                                      Last edited by ShivaBowl; 06-12-11, 06:52 PM.
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                                      • grilldog24
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 03-29-11
                                        • 193

                                        #894
                                        THANKS GUYS DON'T MEAN TO A PEST !
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                                        • ShivaBowl
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 03-09-10
                                          • 5133

                                          #895
                                          Todays M/L Plays.
                                          Plays must be < -140
                                          Check lines prior to game.
                                          PIT?, NYY?, CWS?.

                                          TPR System Plays.
                                          TPR System Plays
                                          DET 1.9
                                          TEX 1.8
                                          CIN 1.1
                                          CWS 1.0 np OAK IP <-20 CWS was a Play and a WIN but its to late know, I missed it.

                                          H/A System Plays.
                                          DET
                                          MLW
                                          WAS
                                          SFO
                                          ATL

                                          H/A Total Plays.
                                          ½ Units today due to the # of plays.
                                          DET & SEA Over 7 –115
                                          NYY & CLE Over 10 –115
                                          HOU & ATL Over 7.5 +105
                                          MLW & STL Over 8 –115
                                          SDP & WAS Over 6.5 +105
                                          SFG & CIN Over 7 –110

                                          LML, P/T Power Plays
                                          BOS
                                          ATL
                                          MLW
                                          SFO

                                          BM, Scientific Approach
                                          PIT
                                          TEX
                                          CIN
                                          ADD WAS

                                          Bullpen Projection System
                                          Florida 4.74
                                          Brew 3.38
                                          San Fran 3.12
                                          Balty 3.00
                                          Minny 2.56
                                          Pitt 1.88
                                          Detroit 1.61
                                          Last edited by ShivaBowl; 06-12-11, 06:54 PM.
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                                          • BrewMaster
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 12-03-10
                                            • 555

                                            #896
                                            11Jun11 Result: TBD
                                            Record Official Start 15May11: TBD


                                            Scientific Approach 12Jun11:


                                            PIT, -158
                                            TEX,-243
                                            CIN,-188


                                            Filtered (FLA,BAL,PHI,ATL,MLW,LAD,ANA)
                                            System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck. Will update record when I can.
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                                            • chinoloco
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 10-10-10
                                              • 286

                                              #897
                                              Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                              Thanks TX I need to here from chinoloco ?? I gave him first ..

                                              CWS No Play OAK IP <-20
                                              No Play if >-150 ?
                                              Thanks Shiva. TX please do it. With my new job I am traveling a lot, maybe next year, but as always you guys are doing great jobs. Thank you.
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                                              • Formulawiz
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 01-12-09
                                                • 1589

                                                #898
                                                Originally posted by ShivaBowl
                                                Its all new calculations on what is a play or not.
                                                Are you looking at the same thing as I am?
                                                Now you have to factor in the P-DF and the T-DF please read it again.
                                                The old system is out.
                                                TKS
                                                http://www.sportrends.com/team_pr_mlb.htm
                                                Your correct. I always used the pitcher with the higher value, I guess by accident. Anyway it looks like I was correct. Anyway its another good stat to use.
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                                                • Formulawiz
                                                  Restricted User
                                                  • 01-12-09
                                                  • 1589

                                                  #899
                                                  Just to clarify todays ML plays, CWS. PIT went to -105 and NYY > -140
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                                                  • ShivaBowl
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 03-09-10
                                                    • 5133

                                                    #900
                                                    Originally posted by Formulawiz
                                                    Your correct. I always used the pitcher with the higher value, I guess by accident. Anyway it looks like I was correct. Anyway its another good stat to use.
                                                    Thanks WIZ,
                                                    Also, I noticed that you and TX: had a play on CWS that I missed with TPR,
                                                    it’s a play when the pitcher on a play has 20IP?
                                                    I know we went over this last year and I had forgotten about it.
                                                    Thanks
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                                                    • rask7rask7
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 10-01-10
                                                      • 159

                                                      #901
                                                      Good luck today, doing well.
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                                                      • Formulawiz
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 01-12-09
                                                        • 1589

                                                        #902
                                                        Yesterday ML plays went 1-0, +1 unit
                                                        YTD 49-28, +14.2 units

                                                        Plays later today.
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                                                        • Formulawiz
                                                          Restricted User
                                                          • 01-12-09
                                                          • 1589

                                                          #903
                                                          Todays ML plays. Fav must be < -140

                                                          PIT, ATL
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                                                          • BrewMaster
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 12-03-10
                                                            • 555

                                                            #904

                                                            Record Official Start 15May11: 53-51 (+2.19 units)

                                                            Scientific Approach 13Jun11:


                                                            PIT, -188
                                                            MLW, -179


                                                            Filtered (CLE, ARZ, CIN)
                                                            System NO PLAY if >-150. Good Luck
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                                                            • ShivaBowl
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 03-09-10
                                                              • 5133

                                                              #905
                                                              TPR system went 0-3 yesterday.
                                                              Start Date 05/01
                                                              48-56 –11.58u

                                                              H/A system went 2-1 yesterday.
                                                              DET –118 L
                                                              MLW np if >-150 W
                                                              WAS –105 W
                                                              SFO –103 W
                                                              ATL np if >-150 W
                                                              Start Date 05/29
                                                              15-8 +4.21u

                                                              H/A Total Plays went 1-4-1 yesterday.
                                                              ½ Unit plays today
                                                              Start Date 06/01
                                                              22
                                                              -17-1 +3.36u


                                                              P/T Power Plays went 1-0 yesterday.
                                                              BOS np play if >-150 W
                                                              ATL np if >-150 W
                                                              MLW np if >-150 W
                                                              SFO –107 W
                                                              Start Date 06/12
                                                              1-0 +1.00u
                                                              Last edited by ShivaBowl; 06-13-11, 08:00 AM.
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                                                              • ShivaBowl
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 03-09-10
                                                                • 5133

                                                                #906
                                                                06/13/11

                                                                TPR Plays
                                                                NYY np >-175
                                                                COL np IP <-20

                                                                H/A System Plays
                                                                PIT
                                                                LAA
                                                                LAD

                                                                H/A Total Plays
                                                                PITY & NYM Over 7.5 –115
                                                                SEA & LAA Over 6.5 -110

                                                                P/T Power Plays
                                                                PIT
                                                                LAA
                                                                LAD
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                                                                • HoulihansTX
                                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                  • 02-12-09
                                                                  • 30566

                                                                  #907
                                                                  Originally posted by HoulihansTX
                                                                  Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                                  Overall

                                                                  (80-70) +6.90Units


                                                                  ___________________
                                                                  Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                                  June 12

                                                                  Bullpen Projection System

                                                                  Florida 4.74 L (+110)
                                                                  Brew 3.38 (No Play >-150)
                                                                  San Fran 3.12 W (-105)
                                                                  Balty 3.00 L (-130)
                                                                  Minny 2.56 W (+110)
                                                                  Pitt 1.88 L (-105)
                                                                  Detroit 1.61
                                                                  L (-105)
                                                                  March 26 to May 14
                                                                  Overall
                                                                  (68-52) +22.56 Units

                                                                  Official start (May 15 - Current)
                                                                  Overall

                                                                  (82-74) +4.60Units
                                                                  ___________________
                                                                  Added Filter: No Play -150 or higher.

                                                                  June 13
                                                                  Bullpen Projection System

                                                                  Pitt 5.07
                                                                  Angels 3.39
                                                                  Dodgers 3.26
                                                                  Brew 3.09
                                                                  Atl 2.18

                                                                  Yanks np >-150
                                                                  Detroit np(Tampa W2)
                                                                  Florida np L2
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                                                                  • Tommygunn
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 02-26-09
                                                                    • 669

                                                                    #908
                                                                    Wow all systems line up today. May have to go heavy on Pitt, ATL, LAD & LAA
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                                                                    • sunzal
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-13-10
                                                                      • 1245

                                                                      #909
                                                                      Originally posted by Tommygunn
                                                                      Wow all systems line up today. May have to go heavy on Pitt, ATL, LAD & LAA
                                                                      Lots on Pitt....but I'm only seeing 2 on Atl..BPS and ML
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                                                                      • Small Timer
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 01-12-11
                                                                        • 389

                                                                        #910
                                                                        Atlanta is also the daily free pick which has been doing well
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