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  • pagodo
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 05-09-11
    • 669

    #981
    Hopefully the Mets will get one tonight or tomorrow.
    It would be unreal to witness a system loss fading San Diego. I will admit though that Pittsburgh's a mess lately and San Diego is on a kind of upswing.

    ---

    Also, I managed to go through the September system losses, back to 2006, and here are the results:

    >> 2010 (2 losses in September, 8 total in 2010)
    fade Ch Cubs
    tail Oakland

    >> 2009 (2 losses out of 4 total)
    fade Oakland
    tail Atlanta

    >> 2008 (2 losses out of 8 total)
    tail Baltimore
    tail Pittsburgh

    >> 2007 (1 loss out of 3 total; yes, there were only 3 losses in 2007)
    fade Philadelphia

    >> 2006 (1 loss, but I haven't checked 2006 for total losses)
    fade LA Angels


    So, over the last five years, the September losses amount to roughly 25% of all system losses (and there had always been at least one loss in September during that span).

    It doesn't seem too scary actually and it obviously does have a lot to do with the fact that teams get extremely streaky nearing the end of the regular season. I will be playing the system games as usual, maybe lowering the unit size just a bit. I'll also be posting the updates until we're left with six games before the end of the regular season.
    Last edited by pagodo; 08-08-11, 06:37 PM.
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    • pagodo
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 05-09-11
      • 669

      #982
      I moved a bit more of the money lost on the game 3-4 line to game 2-5 line and game 1-6 line =

      This is something I need to remember for next year, to explain how to move money between the lines after a loss, it's been working wonders for me with this system.

      UPDATE
      Tuesday, 8/9

      Shutouts on Monday (8/8):
      PIT @ SF, 5-0

      (seriously, Charlie Morton @ SF, 8 IP, 6 HA, zero runs? unreal...
      there's great value though in tailing the Pirates at the moment)

      ---
      System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

      Results (8/8)
      fade San Diego, game 5
      fade Minnesota, game 1

      Plays for 8/9:
      fade San Francisco, game 1


      Game 1: 117-113
      Game 2: 62-51
      Game 3: 25-26
      Game 4: 15-11
      Game 5: 7-4
      Game 6: 3-1

      SYSTEM 1 = (229-1)


      ---
      System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

      Results (8/8)
      tail Ch White Sox, game 1

      Plays for 8/9:
      tail Pittsburgh, game 1


      Game 1: 117-113
      Game 2: 63-50
      Game 3: 24-26
      Game 4: 10-16
      Game 5: 6-10
      Game 6: 6-4

      SYSTEM 2 = (226-4)

      ---
      For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
      For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
      For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
      2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
      2008 system losses @ post #742.

      ---
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      • apwmel
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 03-26-09
        • 789

        #983
        Thanks for the early post. GL.
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        • analyzer
          SBR MVP
          • 02-03-11
          • 2049

          #984
          Great work pagodo - just started following 1st of August. Been watching all year - wish I'd been playing all year too!

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          • mitchp
            SBR High Roller
            • 07-29-10
            • 227

            #985
            Me too and I started it all off!!!!!!!
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            • pagodo
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 05-09-11
              • 669

              #986
              Let me say that again, there's great value = plus money in tailing the Pirates now, but if they don't win in San Francisco tonight, their next series starts on Friday in Milwaukee, so be careful; I'm playing it out, but a bit smaller than usual.

              UPDATE
              Wednesday, 8/10

              Shutouts on Tuesday (8/9):
              TB vs KC, 4-0
              SF vs PIT, 6-0

              ---
              System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

              Results (8/9)
              fade San Francisco, game 1

              Plays for 8/10:
              fade San Francisco, game 2
              fade Pittsburgh, game 1
              fade Kansas City, game 1


              Game 1: 117-114
              Game 2: 62-51
              Game 3: 25-26
              Game 4: 15-11
              Game 5: 7-4
              Game 6: 3-1

              SYSTEM 1 = (229-1)


              ---
              System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

              Results (8/9)
              tail Pittsburgh, game 1

              Plays for 8/10:
              tail Pittsburgh, game 2
              tail San Francisco, game 1
              tail Tampa Bay, game 1


              Game 1: 117-114
              Game 2: 63-50
              Game 3: 24-26
              Game 4: 10-16
              Game 5: 6-10
              Game 6: 6-4

              SYSTEM 2 = (226-4)

              ---
              For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
              For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
              For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
              2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
              2008 system losses @ post #742.

              ---
              Last edited by pagodo; 08-10-11, 04:54 AM.
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              • thelimit0310
                SBR MVP
                • 01-24-11
                • 1233

                #987
                Think it may be best coming into late August to really cut down on unit size. As much as I'd like to see stats crushed it seems we are destined to lose in September, so everyone should be prepared for that. Still profit to be made if labbying properly, but be prepared to take a loss.

                As for me, I've set a profit goal to hit this season and I'm inching towards it, slowly but surely. Right now my roll is lower than it should be but the labby will bring it back. Hopefully I can hit this goal before the September loss. Then I'll be set to really make some cash in the NBA! If they can hurry up with the lockout at least, don't make the fans suffer!
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                • thelimit0310
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-24-11
                  • 1233

                  #988
                  Great comeback for Tampa in the last inning! That was some beautiful baseball! See you all in the morning!
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                  • pagodo
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 05-09-11
                    • 669

                    #989
                    Originally posted by thelimit0310
                    Great comeback for Tampa in the last inning! That was some beautiful baseball! See you all in the morning!
                    I was also glad Pittsburgh took care of business on a very nice +148

                    Batters' day yesterday, unfortunately no plays for tonight.
                    Here's the update:

                    Thursday, 8/11

                    No shutouts on Wednesday (8/10).

                    ---
                    System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                    Results (8/10)
                    fade San Francisco, game 2
                    fade Pittsburgh, game 1
                    fade Kansas City, game 1

                    No plays for 8/11.
                    (pending: fade PIT g2)


                    Game 1: 118-115
                    Game 2: 63-51
                    Game 3: 25-26
                    Game 4: 15-11
                    Game 5: 7-4
                    Game 6: 3-1

                    SYSTEM 1 = (231-1)


                    ---
                    System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                    Results (8/10)
                    tail Pittsburgh, game 2
                    tail San Francisco, game 1
                    tail Tampa Bay, game 1

                    No plays for 8/11.
                    (pending: tail SF g2)


                    Game 1: 118-115
                    Game 2: 64-50
                    Game 3: 24-26
                    Game 4: 10-16
                    Game 5: 6-10
                    Game 6: 6-4

                    SYSTEM 2 = (228-4)

                    ---
                    For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                    For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                    For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                    2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                    2008 system losses @ post #742.

                    ---
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                    • pagodo
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 05-09-11
                      • 669

                      #990
                      No shutouts on Thursday either.

                      Amazing game in New York, where runs were scored only on homers.

                      I only played Wallco's pick (CWS -1,5) and Atari's (ARI -1, brilliant comeback there) yesterday to clear two of my lines and I'm feeling very comfortable ahead of the weekend. Fingers crossed for some shutouts tonight!

                      UPDATE
                      Friday, 8/12

                      No shutouts on Thursday (8/11).

                      ---
                      System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                      Plays for 8/12:
                      fade Pittsburgh, game 2


                      ---
                      System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                      Plays for 8/12:
                      tail San Francisco, game 2


                      ---
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                      • pagodo
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 05-09-11
                        • 669

                        #991
                        UPDATE
                        Saturday, 8/13

                        Shutouts on Friday (8/12):
                        LAD vs HOU, 1-0

                        ---
                        System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                        Results (8/12)
                        fade Pittsburgh, game 2

                        Plays for 8/13:
                        fade Houston, game 1


                        Game 1: 118-115
                        Game 2: 64-51
                        Game 3: 25-26
                        Game 4: 15-11
                        Game 5: 7-4
                        Game 6: 3-1

                        SYSTEM 1 = (232-1)


                        ---
                        System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                        Results (8/12)
                        tail San Francisco, game 2

                        Plays for 8/13:
                        tail San Francisco, game 3
                        tail LA Dodgers, game 1


                        Game 1: 118-115
                        Game 2: 64-51
                        Game 3: 24-26
                        Game 4: 10-16
                        Game 5: 6-10
                        Game 6: 6-4

                        SYSTEM 2 = (228-4)

                        ---
                        For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                        For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                        For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                        2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                        2008 system losses @ post #742.

                        ---
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                        • pagodo
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 05-09-11
                          • 669

                          #992
                          UPDATE
                          Sunday, 8/14

                          Shutouts on Saturday (8/13):
                          MIL vs PIT, 1-0
                          SF @ FLA, 3-0

                          ---
                          System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                          Results (8/13)
                          fade Houston, game 1

                          Plays for 8/14:
                          fade Florida, game 1
                          fade Pittsburgh, game 1


                          Game 1: 119-115
                          Game 2: 64-51
                          Game 3: 25-26
                          Game 4: 15-11
                          Game 5: 7-4
                          Game 6: 3-1

                          SYSTEM 1 = (233-1)


                          ---
                          System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                          Results (8/13)
                          tail San Francisco, game 3
                          tail LA Dodgers, game 1

                          Plays for 8/14:
                          tail Milwaukee, game 1
                          tail San Francisco, game 1


                          Game 1: 119-115
                          Game 2: 64-51
                          Game 3: 25-26
                          Game 4: 10-16
                          Game 5: 6-10
                          Game 6: 6-4

                          SYSTEM 2 = (230-4)

                          ---
                          For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                          For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                          For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                          2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                          2008 system losses @ post #742.

                          ---
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                          • Ethan
                            Restricted User
                            • 02-14-11
                            • 375

                            #993
                            plenty opportunities to come!
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                            • pagodo
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 05-09-11
                              • 669

                              #994

                              Good times.


                              UPDATE
                              Monday, 8/15

                              Shutouts on Sunday (8/14):
                              LAD vs HOU, 7-0

                              ---
                              System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                              Results (8/14)
                              fade Florida, game 1
                              fade Pittsburgh, game 1

                              Plays for 8/15:
                              fade Houston, game 1


                              Game 1: 121-115
                              Game 2: 64-51
                              Game 3: 25-26
                              Game 4: 15-11
                              Game 5: 7-4
                              Game 6: 3-1

                              SYSTEM 1 = (235-1)


                              ---
                              System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                              Results (8/14)
                              tail Milwaukee, game 1
                              tail San Francisco, game 1

                              Plays for 8/15:
                              tail LA Dodgers, game 1


                              Game 1: 121-115
                              Game 2: 64-51
                              Game 3: 25-26
                              Game 4: 10-16
                              Game 5: 6-10
                              Game 6: 6-4

                              SYSTEM 2 = (232-4)

                              ---
                              For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                              For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                              For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                              2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                              2008 system losses @ post #742.

                              ---
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                              • apwmel
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 03-26-09
                                • 789

                                #995
                                Thanks again for the update.
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                                • atari5200
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 09-15-10
                                  • 464

                                  #996
                                  nice work pagodo and company, I haven't stopped by in a while, way too busy with my thread lately. Your comments are always appreciated and the work you put into keeping this shutout thread alive is noticed by many of us.

                                  Cheers Pagodo!
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                                  • pagodo
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 05-09-11
                                    • 669

                                    #997
                                    And I've got big plans for the thread for next year as well
                                    I'll have a review of this year's plays and an analysis on the unit gain and the risk level to determine the starting unit amount for a 3-strike labby.

                                    Keep it up, Atari, you're a true pro.
                                    I'll be tailing your college ball plays, can't wait!
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                                    • pagodo
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 05-09-11
                                      • 669

                                      #998
                                      UPDATE
                                      Tuesday, 8/16

                                      Shutouts on Monday (8/15):
                                      MIL vs LAD, 3-0

                                      ---
                                      System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                      Results (8/15)
                                      fade Houston, game 1

                                      Plays for 8/16:
                                      fade LA Dodgers, game 1


                                      Game 1: 122-115
                                      Game 2: 64-51
                                      Game 3: 25-26
                                      Game 4: 15-11
                                      Game 5: 7-4
                                      Game 6: 3-1

                                      SYSTEM 1 = (236-1)


                                      ---
                                      System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                      Results (8/15)
                                      tail LA Dodgers, game 1

                                      Plays for 8/16:
                                      tail LA Dodgers, game 2
                                      tail Milwaukee, game 1


                                      Game 1: 121-116
                                      Game 2: 64-51
                                      Game 3: 25-26
                                      Game 4: 10-16
                                      Game 5: 6-10
                                      Game 6: 6-4

                                      SYSTEM 2 = (232-4)

                                      ---
                                      For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                                      For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                                      For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                                      2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                                      2008 system losses @ post #742.

                                      ---
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                                      • thelimit0310
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-24-11
                                        • 1233

                                        #999
                                        Thanks for the kind words Atari!

                                        Can't wait to see what you come up with for next year pagodo! I can tell your serious about knocking out the books, and I'm very eager to join you!

                                        I feel like my plan of action will be to stop when September rolls around, get a game plan ready for football, and start following some successful systems on that end a week or two into Sept. Normally I would play through to the end and start on the NBA a month or so later but the NBA may not pick up until January of next year if at all. And at that point the football season would be a month from finishing.
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                                        • pagodo
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 05-09-11
                                          • 669

                                          #1000
                                          UPDATE
                                          Wednesday, 8/17

                                          No shutouts on Tuesday (8/16)...

                                          ---
                                          System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                          Results (8/16)
                                          fade LA Dodgers, game 1

                                          ...and no fade plays for 8/17.


                                          Game 1: 123-115
                                          Game 2: 64-51
                                          Game 3: 25-26
                                          Game 4: 15-11
                                          Game 5: 7-4
                                          Game 6: 3-1

                                          SYSTEM 1 = (237-1)


                                          ---
                                          System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                          Results (8/16)
                                          tail LA Dodgers, game 2
                                          tail Milwaukee, game 1

                                          Plays for 8/17:
                                          tail LA Dodgers, game 3


                                          Game 1: 122-116
                                          Game 2: 64-52
                                          Game 3: 25-26
                                          Game 4: 10-16
                                          Game 5: 6-10
                                          Game 6: 6-4

                                          SYSTEM 2 = (233-4)

                                          ---
                                          For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                                          For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                                          For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                                          2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                                          2008 system losses @ post #742.

                                          ---
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                                          • pagodo
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 05-09-11
                                            • 669

                                            #1001
                                            UPDATE
                                            Thursday, 8/18

                                            Shutouts on Wednesday (8/17):
                                            TB @ BOS, 4-0

                                            ---
                                            System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                            Results (8/17)

                                            Plays for 8/18:
                                            fade Boston, game 1


                                            Game 1: 123-115
                                            Game 2: 64-51
                                            Game 3: 25-26
                                            Game 4: 15-11
                                            Game 5: 7-4
                                            Game 6: 3-1

                                            SYSTEM 1 = (237-1)


                                            ---
                                            System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                            Results (8/17)
                                            tail LA Dodgers, game 3

                                            Plays for 8/18:
                                            tail LA Dodgers, game 4
                                            (pending: tail TB g1)

                                            Game 1: 122-116
                                            Game 2: 64-52
                                            Game 3: 25-27
                                            Game 4: 10-16
                                            Game 5: 6-10
                                            Game 6: 6-4

                                            SYSTEM 2 = (233-4)

                                            ---
                                            For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                                            For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                                            For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                                            2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                                            2008 system losses @ post #742.

                                            ---
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                                            • pagodo
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 05-09-11
                                              • 669

                                              #1002
                                              UPDATE
                                              Friday, 8/19

                                              Shutouts on Thursday (8/18):
                                              ATL vs SF, 1-0
                                              TOR @ OAK, 7-0

                                              ---
                                              System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                              Results (8/18)
                                              fade Boston, game 1

                                              Plays for 8/19:
                                              fade Boston, game 2
                                              fade Oakland, game 1
                                              fade San Francisco, game 1


                                              Game 1: 123-116
                                              Game 2: 64-51
                                              Game 3: 25-26
                                              Game 4: 15-11
                                              Game 5: 7-4
                                              Game 6: 3-1

                                              SYSTEM 1 = (237-1)


                                              ---
                                              System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                              Results (8/18)
                                              tail LA Dodgers, game 4

                                              Plays for 8/19:
                                              tail Tampa Bay, game 1
                                              tail Toronto, game 1
                                              tail Atlanta, game 1


                                              Game 1: 122-116
                                              Game 2: 64-52
                                              Game 3: 25-27
                                              Game 4: 11-16
                                              Game 5: 6-10
                                              Game 6: 6-4

                                              SYSTEM 2 = (234-4)

                                              ---
                                              For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                                              For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                                              For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                                              2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                                              2008 system losses @ post #742.

                                              ---
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                                              • pagodo
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 05-09-11
                                                • 669

                                                #1003
                                                UPDATE
                                                Saturday, 8/20

                                                Shutouts on Friday (8/19):
                                                HOU vs SF, 6-0
                                                OAK vs TOR, 2-0

                                                ---
                                                System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                                Results (8/19)
                                                fade Boston, game 2
                                                fade Oakland, game 1
                                                fade San Francisco, game 1

                                                Plays for 8/20:
                                                fade Boston, game 3
                                                fade Oakland, game 2
                                                fade San Francisco, game 1
                                                fade Toronto, game 1


                                                Game 1: 124-117
                                                Game 2: 64-52
                                                Game 3: 25-26
                                                Game 4: 15-11
                                                Game 5: 7-4
                                                Game 6: 3-1

                                                SYSTEM 1 = (238-1)


                                                ---
                                                System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                                Results (8/19)
                                                tail Tampa Bay, game 1
                                                tail Toronto, game 1
                                                tail Atlanta, game 1

                                                Plays for 8/20:
                                                tail Toronto, game 2
                                                tail Oakland, game 1
                                                tail Houston, game 1


                                                Game 1: 124-117
                                                Game 2: 64-52
                                                Game 3: 25-27
                                                Game 4: 11-16
                                                Game 5: 6-10
                                                Game 6: 6-4

                                                SYSTEM 2 = (236-4)

                                                ---
                                                For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                                                For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                                                For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                                                2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                                                2008 system losses @ post #742.

                                                ---
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                                                • goodone
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 05-15-11
                                                  • 60

                                                  #1004
                                                  Nothing than happy days here guys lol
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                                                  • pagodo
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 05-09-11
                                                    • 669

                                                    #1005
                                                    And happy days continue with two beautiful +money scores on KC and Houston.



                                                    UPDATE
                                                    Sunday, 8/21

                                                    Shutouts on Saturday (8/20):
                                                    PHI @ WSH, 5-0
                                                    TB vs SEA, 8-0
                                                    ChC vs STL, 3-0

                                                    ---
                                                    System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                                    Results (8/20)
                                                    fade Boston, game 3
                                                    fade Oakland, game 2
                                                    fade San Francisco, game 1
                                                    fade Toronto, game 1

                                                    Plays for 8/21:
                                                    fade Oakland, game 3
                                                    fade Washington, game 1
                                                    fade St Louis, game 1
                                                    fade Seattle, game 1


                                                    Game 1: 126-117
                                                    Game 2: 64-53
                                                    Game 3: 26-26
                                                    Game 4: 15-11
                                                    Game 5: 7-4
                                                    Game 6: 3-1

                                                    SYSTEM 1 = (241-1)


                                                    ---
                                                    System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                                    Results (8/20)
                                                    tail Toronto, game 2
                                                    tail Oakland, game 1
                                                    tail Houston, game 1

                                                    Plays for 8/21:
                                                    tail Toronto, game 3
                                                    tail Tampa Bay, game 1
                                                    tail Philadelphia, game 1
                                                    tail Ch Cubs, game 1


                                                    Game 1: 126-117
                                                    Game 2: 64-53
                                                    Game 3: 25-27
                                                    Game 4: 11-16
                                                    Game 5: 6-10
                                                    Game 6: 6-4

                                                    SYSTEM 2 = (238-4)

                                                    ---
                                                    For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                                                    For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                                                    For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                                                    2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                                                    2008 system losses @ post #742.

                                                    ---
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                                                    • thelimit0310
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-24-11
                                                      • 1233

                                                      #1006
                                                      Two of our bets today are -200...ouch. Wondering if I should even take the chance.
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                                                      • pagodo
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 05-09-11
                                                        • 669

                                                        #1007
                                                        Originally posted by thelimit0310
                                                        Two of our bets today are -200...ouch. Wondering if I should even take the chance.
                                                        If it's a game 1 and you're not comfortable with the juice, skip it!
                                                        In the end, after the lines are cleared, it all comes back to you anyway, so it's always about the unit size and feeling comfortable with the amount of money in play.

                                                        Here's the update:

                                                        Monday, 8/22

                                                        Shutouts on Sunday (8/21):
                                                        ATL vs ARI, 1-0
                                                        CWS vs TEX, 10-0
                                                        NYY @ MIN, 3-0
                                                        TOR @ OAK, 1-0

                                                        ---
                                                        System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                                        Results (8/21)
                                                        fade Oakland, game 3
                                                        fade Washington, game 1
                                                        fade St Louis, game 1
                                                        fade Seattle, game 1

                                                        Plays for 8/22:
                                                        fade Washington, game 2
                                                        fade St Louis, game 2
                                                        fade Minnesota, game 1
                                                        fade Arizona, game 1
                                                        fade Texas, game 1
                                                        (pending: fade OAK g1)

                                                        Game 1: 127-119
                                                        Game 2: 64-53
                                                        Game 3: 27-26
                                                        Game 4: 15-11
                                                        Game 5: 7-4
                                                        Game 6: 3-1

                                                        SYSTEM 1 = (243-1)


                                                        ---
                                                        System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                                        Results (8/21)
                                                        tail Toronto, game 3
                                                        tail Tampa Bay, game 1
                                                        tail Philadelphia, game 1
                                                        tail Ch Cubs, game 1

                                                        Plays for 8/22:
                                                        tail Philadelphia, game 2
                                                        tail Ch Cubs, game 2
                                                        tail Atlanta, game 1
                                                        (pending: tail TOR/NYY/CWS g1)

                                                        Game 1: 127-119
                                                        Game 2: 64-53
                                                        Game 3: 26-27
                                                        Game 4: 11-16
                                                        Game 5: 6-10
                                                        Game 6: 6-4

                                                        SYSTEM 2 = (240-4)

                                                        ---
                                                        For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                                                        For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                                                        For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                                                        2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                                                        2008 system losses @ post #742.

                                                        ---
                                                        Comment
                                                        • DustyDiamond
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 12-19-09
                                                          • 772

                                                          #1008
                                                          Has there been a decision on when the system will end? End of August or Sept?
                                                          Comment
                                                          • pagodo
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 05-09-11
                                                            • 669

                                                            #1009
                                                            Originally posted by DustyDiamond
                                                            Has there been a decision on when the system will end? End of August or Sept?
                                                            post #981
                                                            Comment
                                                            • honeyeater
                                                              Restricted User
                                                              • 01-20-11
                                                              • 253

                                                              #1010
                                                              Anyone have any review or opinion about BET FAIR ? I'm thinking of putting some money with them. I'm concerned about withdraws and finding a opposite side for your bet. But I like the idea of an open market like that.
                                                              Comment
                                                              • pagodo
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 05-09-11
                                                                • 669

                                                                #1011
                                                                No BETFAIR experience on my part. What made you consider them?

                                                                ---

                                                                Lots of games on the board, I've got all lines occupied,
                                                                here's to a great Tuesday, 8/23

                                                                Shutouts on Monday (8/22):
                                                                ATL @ ChC, 3-0
                                                                PHI vs NYM, 10-0
                                                                TEX vs BOS, 4-0

                                                                ---
                                                                System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                                                Results (8/22)
                                                                fade Washington, game 2
                                                                fade St Louis, game 2
                                                                fade Minnesota, game 1
                                                                fade Arizona, game 1
                                                                fade Texas, game 1

                                                                Plays for 8/23:
                                                                fade Washington, game 3
                                                                fade Texas, game 2
                                                                fade Oakland, game 1
                                                                fade Ch Cubs, game 1
                                                                fade NY Mets, game 1
                                                                fade Boston, game 1


                                                                Game 1: 129-120
                                                                Game 2: 65-54
                                                                Game 3: 27-26
                                                                Game 4: 15-11
                                                                Game 5: 7-4
                                                                Game 6: 3-1

                                                                SYSTEM 1 = (246-1)


                                                                ---
                                                                System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                                                Results (8/22)
                                                                tail Philadelphia, game 2
                                                                tail Ch Cubs, game 2
                                                                tail Atlanta, game 1

                                                                Plays for 8/23:
                                                                tail Ch Cubs, game 3
                                                                tail Philadelphia, game 1
                                                                tail Atlanta, game 1
                                                                tail Texas, game 1
                                                                tail NY Yankees, game 1
                                                                tail Ch White Sox, game 1
                                                                tail Toronto, game 1


                                                                Game 1: 128-119
                                                                Game 2: 65-54
                                                                Game 3: 26-27
                                                                Game 4: 11-16
                                                                Game 5: 6-10
                                                                Game 6: 6-4

                                                                SYSTEM 2 = (242-4)

                                                                ---
                                                                For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                                                                For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                                                                For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                                                                2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                                                                2008 system losses @ post #742.

                                                                ---
                                                                Comment
                                                                • honeyeater
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 01-20-11
                                                                  • 253

                                                                  #1012
                                                                  I use TAB now and they're prices are low but really they come out so late with their lines AND on DBL Headers you can only bet the 2nd game by phone and at times they don't even publish that. Bet Fair is good for a portion of your roll. You can basically be a bookie. The platform just matches you up with another bettor and you pick the price. So the risk is you may not find another side of the price you are soliciting. But I like the pure open market idea.
                                                                  Comment
                                                                  • pagodo
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 05-09-11
                                                                    • 669

                                                                    #1013
                                                                    Originally posted by honeyeater
                                                                    I use TAB now and they're prices are low but really they come out so late with their lines AND on DBL Headers you can only bet the 2nd game by phone and at times they don't even publish that. Bet Fair is good for a portion of your roll. You can basically be a bookie. The platform just matches you up with another bettor and you pick the price. So the risk is you may not find another side of the price you are soliciting. But I like the pure open market idea.
                                                                    Really interesting, looking it up right now, thanks for the info.

                                                                    And keep a close eye on the Cubs, they're @ game 4 tonight

                                                                    ---

                                                                    UPDATE
                                                                    Wednesday, 8/24

                                                                    Shutouts on Tuesday (8/23):
                                                                    ARI @ WSH, 2-0

                                                                    ---
                                                                    System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                                                    Results (8/23)
                                                                    fade Washington, game 3
                                                                    fade Texas, game 2
                                                                    fade Oakland, game 1
                                                                    fade Ch Cubs, game 1
                                                                    fade NY Mets, game 1
                                                                    fade Boston, game 1

                                                                    Plays for 8/24:
                                                                    fade Oakland, game 2
                                                                    fade Boston, game 2
                                                                    fade Washington, game 1


                                                                    Game 1: 131-122
                                                                    Game 2: 66-54
                                                                    Game 3: 28-26
                                                                    Game 4: 15-11
                                                                    Game 5: 7-4
                                                                    Game 6: 3-1

                                                                    SYSTEM 1 = (250-1)


                                                                    ---
                                                                    System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                                                    Results (8/23)
                                                                    tail Ch Cubs, game 3
                                                                    tail Philadelphia, game 1
                                                                    tail Atlanta, game 1
                                                                    tail Texas, game 1
                                                                    tail NY Yankees, game 1
                                                                    tail Ch White Sox, game 1
                                                                    tail Toronto, game 1

                                                                    Plays for 8/24:
                                                                    tail Ch Cubs, game 4
                                                                    tail Texas, game 2
                                                                    tail Toronto, game 2
                                                                    tail NY Yankees, game 2
                                                                    tail Ch White Sox, game 2
                                                                    tail Arizona, game 1


                                                                    Game 1: 130-123
                                                                    Game 2: 65-54
                                                                    Game 3: 26-28
                                                                    Game 4: 11-16
                                                                    Game 5: 6-10
                                                                    Game 6: 6-4

                                                                    SYSTEM 2 = (244-4)

                                                                    ---
                                                                    For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                                                                    For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                                                                    For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                                                                    2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                                                                    2008 system losses @ post #742.

                                                                    ---
                                                                    Comment
                                                                    • honeyeater
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 01-20-11
                                                                      • 253

                                                                      #1014
                                                                      Yeh I took TB for JM's C play (my first bet) and NYY at -1.5. I wasn't going to play the Cubs until a 5th game. But if those games look like blowouts in the 1st hour (I doubt) I may play CHC.
                                                                      Comment
                                                                      • pagodo
                                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                                        • 05-09-11
                                                                        • 669

                                                                        #1015
                                                                        UPDATE
                                                                        Thursday, 8/25

                                                                        Shutouts on Wednesday (8/24):
                                                                        PIT vs MIL, 2-0
                                                                        LAA vs CWS, 8-0

                                                                        ---
                                                                        System 1 (fade a team that has been shut out, 6 game chase):

                                                                        Results (8/23)
                                                                        fade Oakland, game 2
                                                                        fade Boston, game 2
                                                                        fade Washington, game 1

                                                                        Plays for 8/24:
                                                                        fade Boston, game 3
                                                                        fade Oakland, game 3
                                                                        (pending: fade MIL/CWS g1)

                                                                        Game 1: 132-122
                                                                        Game 2: 66-56
                                                                        Game 3: 28-26
                                                                        Game 4: 15-11
                                                                        Game 5: 7-4
                                                                        Game 6: 3-1

                                                                        SYSTEM 1 = (251-1)


                                                                        ---
                                                                        System 2 (tail a team that has shut another out, 6 game chase):

                                                                        Results (8/24)
                                                                        tail Ch Cubs, game 4
                                                                        tail Texas, game 2
                                                                        tail Toronto, game 2
                                                                        tail NY Yankees, game 2
                                                                        tail Ch White Sox, game 2
                                                                        tail Arizona, game 1

                                                                        Plays for 8/25:
                                                                        tail NY Yankees, game 3
                                                                        tail Texas, game 3
                                                                        tail Pittsburgh, game 1
                                                                        (pending: tail CWS g3, tail LAA g1)

                                                                        Game 1: 131-123
                                                                        Game 2: 66-57
                                                                        Game 3: 26-28
                                                                        Game 4: 12-16
                                                                        Game 5: 6-10
                                                                        Game 6: 6-4

                                                                        SYSTEM 2 = (247-4)

                                                                        ---
                                                                        For rules and stats on both systems, check out post #445;
                                                                        For labby line 101, check out links @ post #657;
                                                                        For a rundown on 2011 system losses, check out post #702;
                                                                        2009-2010 system losses @ post #738;
                                                                        2008 system losses @ post #742.

                                                                        ---
                                                                        Comment
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