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  • teecee
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 09-18-09
    • 6298

    #351
    The KillerSports guy will refer you to a discussion group, where there is a thread about this topic. In the thread he'd like you to reference, no one has a clue as to where or how the closing line is derived.
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    • TechnicalTrader
      SBR MVP
      • 05-09-16
      • 1434

      #352
      I know somebody who knows him. I'll just email him directly.
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      • MJ4thQuarter92
        SBR High Roller
        • 02-08-17
        • 188

        #353
        It looks like the Tigers, Mets, Cardinals, Indians and Red Sox could all be plays today. Is that correct? The Rockies, Giants, Padres and Angels likely won't be plays because of today's current odds. I'm just trying to make sure I understand what's going on. I like this and want to try it out.
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        • TechnicalTrader
          SBR MVP
          • 05-09-16
          • 1434

          #354
          If it was gametime now, the following plays would qualify:

          STL
          CLE
          NYM
          BOS

          DET is not a play because the Mariners odds went from -130 (April 25th) to -133 (April 26th) and is currently +136.

          April 26th odds disqualifies it as a play. Those odds would've needed to be -129 or higher.

          I hope it's clear now
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          • MJ4thQuarter92
            SBR High Roller
            • 02-08-17
            • 188

            #355
            Yes, thank you. I made a mistake when looking at the odds in that game. This is pretty easy to keep up with. It just sucks how much odds change last hour before game time, but oh well. Nothing is perfect.
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            • MJ4thQuarter92
              SBR High Roller
              • 02-08-17
              • 188

              #356
              Has any microanalysis been done to compare dog vs. faves or home vs. away to see if one side profits more than the other?
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              • TechnicalTrader
                SBR MVP
                • 05-09-16
                • 1434

                #357
                Originally posted by MJ4thQuarter92
                Has any microanalysis been done to compare dog vs. faves or home vs. away to see if one side profits more than the other?
                Yes, what I noticed pretty quickly is any added variable took away RoI.
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                • Kenny King
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 02-04-16
                  • 168

                  #358
                  This system has such a high win percentage that it seems that it is unnecessary to stress out until the last possible minute. You are always playing on stronger trending teams vs weaker trending teams. Truth of the matter is that you can probably set a time 15 minutes before first pitch and just roll with it. You will miss one here and there as well as add one here and there, but over the course of the long season it will probably equal out.
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                  • barryt
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 01-23-13
                    • 237

                    #359
                    Yesterdays' results:


                    RIOiF:
                    MIL RL won (will not count this one)
                    MIL SU won (will not count this one
                    BOS RL loss
                    BOS SU loss
                    LAA RL won
                    LAA SU won
                    RIOF4:
                    MIL RL won (will not count this one)
                    MIL SU won (will not count this one
                    SEA RL won
                    SEA SU won
                    LAA RL won
                    LAA SU won




                    Of course the only play "at game time " using Killer game time line was BOS .
                    This kind of thing happens very often as witnessed by my RIOF record.
                    ML 12-11 RL 9-13 BR $204 from $250 at $10 per bet
                    So it's a concern. I'll wait until the end of the month to decide if I'm able to follow this.


                    I noticed also that Killer changes the "lines" well after the game has started.. and always against me.. lower if I didn't bet and higher ,to make it a pass, if I did bet...it's a conspiracy..LOL

                    PS there have certainly been more than 2 occurrences. There are 3 right there above and many previous as witness by all the discussion on the "lines"
                    Last edited by barryt; 04-27-17, 10:35 AM.
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                    • TechnicalTrader
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-09-16
                      • 1434

                      #360
                      Originally posted by Kenny King
                      This system has such a high win percentage that it seems that it is unnecessary to stress out until the last possible minute. You are always playing on stronger trending teams vs weaker trending teams. Truth of the matter is that you can probably set a time 15 minutes before first pitch and just roll with it. You will miss one here and there as well as add one here and there, but over the course of the long season it will probably equal out.
                      I added a variable which gives me a little extra "room" (for odds to be slightly off) in order to get plays that almost qualify. As you say above, even those which barely do not qualify tend to win. The system is money I tell you!

                      With that said, This is what I'm betting:

                      (SU and RL)

                      RIOF:

                      STL
                      CLE
                      NYM
                      BOS

                      RIOF4:
                      CLE
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                      • TechnicalTrader
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-09-16
                        • 1434

                        #361
                        Was the LAA line off also? I played them around 5:45 EST, right before I went to bed.
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                        • barryt
                          SBR High Roller
                          • 01-23-13
                          • 237

                          #362
                          Originally posted by TechnicalTrader
                          Was the LAA line off also? I played them around 5:45 EST, right before I went to bed.
                          Yes! I checked at 10pm and it was still -130 . This morning it showed closing at -147 .
                          see teecee post too,#354, he has it -130 also.
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                          • barryt
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 01-23-13
                            • 237

                            #363
                            RIOF plays:
                            DAY BOS -118 needed -172. Play on
                            DAY STL -148 needed (first game of DH) --185 Play on
                            MIL -128 needed don't play til Friday
                            DAY SEA -133 needed (highly doubt it will qualify)+120 NO Play
                            NIGHT LAA -147 needed -120 NO Play
                            BAL -145 needed don't play tilFRI
                            EVE CLE -108 needed -160 Play on
                            DAY MEts -140 needed -170 Play on


                            All of these are cut and dried and bookie odds are similar to Killer odds.
                            AAAAAHHHHH!
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                            • TechnicalTrader
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-09-16
                              • 1434

                              #364
                              That really sucks! The tweak should avoid these types of situations. If the odds are = to the previous game, play!
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                              • Kenny King
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 02-04-16
                                • 168

                                #365
                                It's really unbelievable how this system gets wins in the most unlikely fashion over and over again!
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                                • hutasadorn
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 09-12-10
                                  • 104

                                  #366
                                  Go Carpenter!!
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                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 05-09-16
                                    • 1434

                                    #367
                                    Originally posted by Kenny King
                                    It's really unbelievable how this system gets wins in the most unlikely fashion over and over again!
                                    I rarely, rarely watch games I have money on but that was some amazing sh!T.
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                                    • 2buckluck
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 04-10-15
                                      • 608

                                      #368
                                      Thanks TT, keep up the good work and keep those RIOF4 winners coming
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                                      • TechnicalTrader
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-09-16
                                        • 1434

                                        #369
                                        Not the best day yesterday!

                                        RIOF:
                                        STL, SU won, RL won
                                        CLE, SU won, RL loss
                                        NYM, SU loss, RL loss
                                        BOS, SU loss, RL loss

                                        RIOF4:
                                        CLE, SU won, RL loss


                                        RIOF, YTD (I deducted the MIL play):
                                        SU; 30-17 +4.19units
                                        RL; 22-25, +5.19 units

                                        RIOF4, YTD(I deducted the MIL play):
                                        SU; 23-6 +14.49 units
                                        RL; 18-12 +11.95 units

                                        Today's targets:

                                        RIOF:
                                        CLE, -180
                                        MIL, -128 (Braves line needs to rise from +120 to +160, doubtful)
                                        ARZ, -190 (currently at -140, doubtful)
                                        TEX, -145 (currently at +105, doubtful)

                                        RIOF4:
                                        CLE
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                                        • Mackballs
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-01-16
                                          • 5810

                                          #370
                                          Results look great. Looks like a pretty serious system. Would like to start following but have no clue how. I guess just wait til official plays are posted? Good work TT.
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                                          • TechnicalTrader
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-09-16
                                            • 1434

                                            #371
                                            Originally posted by Mackballs
                                            Results look great. Looks like a pretty serious system. Would like to start following but have no clue how. I guess just wait til official plays are posted? Good work TT.
                                            Yeah, that's the easiest. Or just read the first post. Plenty of info there.

                                            With that said, it looks like CLE will be the only play today.
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                                            • teecee
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 09-18-09
                                              • 6298

                                              #372
                                              Just out of curiosity, do you know, TT, the hit rate for teams that qualify on b2b days?
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                                              • TechnicalTrader
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-09-16
                                                • 1434

                                                #373
                                                b2b as in with no rest or playing after playing the same team?
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                                                • teecee
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 09-18-09
                                                  • 6298

                                                  #374
                                                  Oh sorry. The Indians are playing a diff team today. So it would be no rest against a diff team. Not trying to trouble you, I just like to see the numbers if you have them. Thanks for everything.
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                                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-09-16
                                                    • 1434

                                                    #375
                                                    These are the stats from the following query:
                                                    wrong stats, gimme a sec here.
                                                    Last edited by TechnicalTrader; 04-28-17, 11:21 AM. Reason: wrong stats
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                                                    • TechnicalTrader
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 05-09-16
                                                      • 1434

                                                      #376
                                                      My bad, here are the numbers:

                                                      RIOF, no rest, first game of series:

                                                      Games Record, SU avg line opp avg line $100/unit Record, RL avg line opp avg line $100/unit
                                                      28 21-7 (2.25, 75.0%) -165.7 151 +$992 16-12 (0.75, 57.1%) 133.5 -145.3 +$859 season = 2013
                                                      42 31-11 (1.81, 73.8%) -164.2 150.4 +$1,353 23-19 (0.31, 54.8%) 134 -145.8 +$1,095 season = 2014
                                                      43 28-15 (0.79, 65.1%) -165.4 150.7 +$432 18-25 (-0.71, 41.9%) 132.9 -144.6 -$270 season = 2015
                                                      52 39-13 (1.94, 75.0%) -163.8 151.3 +$1,900 33-19 (0.44, 63.5%) 129 -140.3 +$2,374 season = 2016
                                                      4 4-0 (3.00, 100.0%) -149.4 137.4 +$400 3-1 (1.50, 75.0%) 130.8 -141.8 +$304 season = 2017
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                                                      • barryt
                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                        • 01-23-13
                                                        • 237

                                                        #377
                                                        All NIGHT games so will wait til 6 pm
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                                                        • teecee
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 09-18-09
                                                          • 6298

                                                          #378
                                                          Small amt of games, but the winning pct supports playing Indians even at -200. Thank you
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                                                          • TechnicalTrader
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 05-09-16
                                                            • 1434

                                                            #379
                                                            CLE is official, both RIOF and RIOF4
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                                                            • TechnicalTrader
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-09-16
                                                              • 1434

                                                              #380
                                                              CLE loss, both the RIOF and RIOF4 plays.

                                                              Today's pending RIOF plays:
                                                              NYY
                                                              WAS
                                                              LAD

                                                              RIOF4:
                                                              NYY
                                                              WAS
                                                              LAD
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                                                              • TechnicalTrader
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-09-16
                                                                • 1434

                                                                #381
                                                                NYY and WAS both look like strong plays. CLE is getting close, very close. If CLE qualifies it will not be an RIOF4 play. I'm taking WAS and NYY now
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                                                                • Mackballs
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 12-01-16
                                                                  • 5810

                                                                  #382
                                                                  TT, I read through the whole thread and think I may have missed something. I saw you said you are taking RIOF4 plays for 1.5% of bankroll. Now, if a play qualifies for an RIOF4 that means it automatically qualifies for an RIOF play I'm assuming. So does that mean you're taking the play to win 2.5% total? 1.5 being RIOF 4 and 1.0 being split .5 and .5 on su and rl on the RIOF play? Like the Yankees and Washington today for example...thanks for you help here.
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                                                                  • TechnicalTrader
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-09-16
                                                                    • 1434

                                                                    #383
                                                                    Exactly. But that's just how I'm managing my BR. For each his own...
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                                                                    • barryt
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 01-23-13
                                                                      • 237

                                                                      #384
                                                                      3 DAY games
                                                                      NYY -170
                                                                      Was -190
                                                                      both qualify so betting them now as expect lines will dip at game time.
                                                                      4pm CLeve is in the imfamaous equal. Yesterday -190 today so far -190. It's going to be a pass for me either way as if it does go to -195 ,that's too steep for me as system only wins 65% so -195 is break even
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                                                                      • TechnicalTrader
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 05-09-16
                                                                        • 1434

                                                                        #385
                                                                        The RL performance on games with odds between -180 and -400 is 228-196 (+7.3% RoI), dating back to April of 2013. YTD 6-8, -11.6% RoI. April has otherwise been very good to RL picks with a 25.7% RoI dating back to 2013. I say this system is due and the RL has value!

                                                                        BTW, even if that line sticks at -190, I am taking it. I'm taking any game with current odds equal to previous game. As stated earlier the performance is pretty much the same!
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