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  • mizzoujohn
    SBR High Roller
    • 03-16-10
    • 155

    #1751
    found 2008:

    Originally Posted by ScreaminPain
    First, let me preface this with a disclaimer as to EXACT accuracy.

    I've gone thru 2008 from May 1st thru Aug. 31st. I used opening lines and rounded to the dollar. In 2 instances the game that included "largest favorite" for that day was postponed due to weather, so I used the 2nd largest fav.

    Results were 121 plays
    1 6-game chase
    1 5-game chase
    6 4-game chases
    7 3-game chases
    **- the rest were either 1 or 2 game chases.

    Aug. 31st ended up +65.6 units

    Some interesting facts. During entire mo. of Aug. you had to lay odds on the run line....in one case -155 (yikes). In the month of May only 9 plays were at (-) money with the largest lay being -115 twice. Aug. had NO chases longer than 2 games.

    Inherent with chases, is the fact you'll need to lay a big number to get back previous losses. The largest amount needed was for the single 6 game chase in July. If you were using $10 units, a lay of $327 was required......figure your own value if you chose different units.

    It's apparent that this method will work, but of course, ALL chases will work if you have the bankroll. I guess it's up to individual preferences to determine if the reward is worth the risk.

    This was a pain in the butt to compile, however it may answer some questions. As always, good luck with you action."


    I assume this data i the -1.5RL. so $10 units, for a 4 game chase:

    119-2 (WOW!)
    lets assume, as before, that a series loss is -28 units... so we would be at:
    0 series losses: +117U
    1 series loss: +89 units
    2 series losses: +61 units (what 2008 would have landed on)
    3 losses: +34U
    4 losses: +6U
    lets hope it wouldn't go further than that.


    for 3 game chase, there were 8 losses. so 113-8. Each loss=12 units. So thats 96 units right there. So the season is only at +17 units overall.


    I think the 4 game chase is the way to go. Any other input out there?
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    • floridagolfer
      SBR MVP
      • 12-19-08
      • 2757

      #1752
      Originally posted by JW Cash
      If you believe that life is short and you need to go for the gusto NOW ...

      If you believe that its " Now or Never "

      If you believe that its " if Not NOW....Then WHEN? "


      Then, I offer the following......its what I do....

      Wager 5% of whatever your bank is on any given day.....

      i.e.

      Your bank is $1000.....

      ..and you win $50 on Philadelphia today........... bank is now $1050

      ..on Tuesday....you wager 5% ( $52.50 ) on the pick for that day....

      ...and the bank keeps compounding......

      ..obviously you need more winners than losers......


      But if you divide the losers into future winners........

      Hell....your life will change.......

      Personally, I bet to win a set dollar amount per series and adjust that upward during the season (after any losses). But for those who elect to risk a percentage of their bankroll, I guess that's fine if you're comfortable increasing the amount so often during the season.

      We are now at the starting gate; let's have a great summer.
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      • spankadank
        SBR High Roller
        • 01-20-10
        • 182

        #1753
        Is PHI the play today?
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        • SkivChef
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-19-09
          • 730

          #1754
          spank, u don't start for 2 weeks.
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          • spankadank
            SBR High Roller
            • 01-20-10
            • 182

            #1755
            ok, thanks for the response
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            • thebestthereis
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 03-01-09
              • 11459

              #1756
              FYI. I researched the last 2 years on accuscore. Take the highest HOME win % each day and play the runline. It isn't always the highest odds and half the time you are getting +120, +130. Never lost 6 straight and I looked at every game til the last pitch of the season.
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              • thebestthereis
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-01-09
                • 11459

                #1757
                I suggest stoping in Sept do to inflated lines and even reverse the system
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                • do5000
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 06-06-08
                  • 853

                  #1758
                  Originally posted by thebestthereis
                  FYI. I researched the last 2 years on accuscore. Take the highest HOME win % each day and play the runline. It isn't always the highest odds and half the time you are getting +120, +130. Never lost 6 straight and I looked at every game til the last pitch of the season.
                  looks interesting. where do you get your stats?
                  im assuming all these numbers are closing.
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                  • thebestthereis
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 03-01-09
                    • 11459

                    #1759
                    daily line reports from the past two seasons, its all there no bs. it is always a home team and the one that predicts the highest win %. it has nothing to do with the run line i just researched it that way. if you just played the moneyline not a lot of difference but the juice is if you take the run line. never 6 striaght losses and in the middle of 2008 it won a shitload. you would bank about 80 units but remember it would be more like 100 cause you are usually at +odds every game.

                    today would be game 1, diamondbacks
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                    • SkivChef
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-19-09
                      • 730

                      #1760
                      what do u mean "predicts the highest win %"?
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                      • do5000
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 06-06-08
                        • 853

                        #1761
                        Originally posted by thebestthereis
                        daily line reports from the past two seasons, its all there no bs. it is always a home team and the one that predicts the highest win %. it has nothing to do with the run line i just researched it that way. if you just played the moneyline not a lot of difference but the juice is if you take the run line. never 6 striaght losses and in the middle of 2008 it won a shitload. you would bank about 80 units but remember it would be more like 100 cause you are usually at +odds every game.

                        today would be game 1, diamondbacks

                        do you have the link?
                        do the numbers change during the day?
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                        • reverend
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 06-01-09
                          • 880

                          #1762
                          For those interested, I have started a thread for my season picks. It will include my picks for this system as well as another system I am playing. it will also have a few random picks as well.

                          Off to a 4-0 start this season.

                          good luck this 2010 mlb season!
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                          • reverend
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 06-01-09
                            • 880

                            #1763
                            Originally posted by thebestthereis
                            FYI. I researched the last 2 years on accuscore. Take the highest HOME win % each day and play the runline. It isn't always the highest odds and half the time you are getting +120, +130. Never lost 6 straight and I looked at every game til the last pitch of the season.
                            where do you get the accuscore numbers?
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                            • thebestthereis
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-01-09
                              • 11459

                              #1764
                              i have the subscription, well for now. i will post spreadsheets for the last two years hopefully by tonight.

                              ps in 2008 you needed to stop in sept i just realized. i will put the number together for both year stopping first week september - both years. sorry about that.
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                              • TodayIsForgotten
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 06-19-06
                                • 534

                                #1765
                                has anyone checked if this holds true just for powerful teams such as Boston, Yanks, Phillies. Seems like such a system could see high win percentages on teams that will hardly ever run into a 5 game losing streak. It's just an idea, though.
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                                • reverend
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 06-01-09
                                  • 880

                                  #1766
                                  Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                  i have the subscription, well for now. i will post spreadsheets for the last two years hopefully by tonight.

                                  ps in 2008 you needed to stop in sept i just realized. i will put the number together for both year stopping first week september - both years. sorry about that.
                                  how much is the subscription and what's the site?

                                  thanks!
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                                  • thebestthereis
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 03-01-09
                                    • 11459

                                    #1767
                                    i have had it for almost a year now, not sure what the new prices are.

                                    accuscore.com is the web site
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                                    • reverend
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 06-01-09
                                      • 880

                                      #1768
                                      Phils cash today. 1-0

                                      Play for tomorrow will be on Arizona.

                                      GL
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                                      • reverend
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 06-01-09
                                        • 880

                                        #1769
                                        Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                        i have had it for almost a year now, not sure what the new prices are.

                                        accuscore.com is the web site
                                        Quick question:

                                        I went to the accuscore website and see a full mlb season costs $950 right now.
                                        but
                                        I also see on espn.com, you can click on "preview" for each game, and it shows you the accuscore percentages for that game.

                                        Is there any reason to buy the accuscore package then, if all you are wanting is the percentages for that game?
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                                        • IWinMyBets
                                          Restricted User
                                          • 01-23-10
                                          • 106

                                          #1770
                                          AZ D'backs opened as Money Line Favorite for Tuesday. Tampa Bay passed them up as the evening has progressed. Since we are basically testing duirng the next week or so, we should go very easy if playing either as a system play. Tampa Bay falls under another of our separate system plays for tomorrow as well.

                                          Bookmaker has the D'backs at -171 ML and Tampa Bay at -175 ML

                                          Here we had discussed potentially playing the second Fav as well as mentioned in the thread. Would still keep it very light for a few more days.

                                          Good Luck
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                                          • mminkovski
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-22-07
                                            • 1077

                                            #1771
                                            I would say we need to play lines just before start of the games. This is when they are most accurate.
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                                            • thebestthereis
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 03-01-09
                                              • 11459

                                              #1772
                                              Originally posted by reverend
                                              Quick question:

                                              I went to the accuscore website and see a full mlb season costs $950 right now.
                                              but
                                              I also see on espn.com, you can click on "preview" for each game, and it shows you the accuscore percentages for that game.

                                              Is there any reason to buy the accuscore package then, if all you are wanting is the percentages for that game?
                                              as long as those % are correct i guess not. the price isn't $950 it is less. You want winner's edge not the advisor; no need for that.
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                                              • venture
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 11-25-09
                                                • 1158

                                                #1773
                                                Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                                as long as those % are correct i guess not. the price isn't $950 it is less. You want winner's edge not the advisor; no need for that.

                                                Espn insider is 3.33 a month if you sign up for a year and you get accuscore with that. The highest % today was Mil 64% was this the same % you had today?MIL64%
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                                                • thebestthereis
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 03-01-09
                                                  • 11459

                                                  #1774
                                                  Yes they were also best on runline too
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                                                  • IWinMyBets
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 01-23-10
                                                    • 106

                                                    #1775
                                                    Originally posted by mminkovski
                                                    I would say we need to play lines just before start of the games. This is when they are most accurate.
                                                    I do tend to agree with you on that. In the real world, this is impossible for those who work for a living still. That is at a JOB.

                                                    The original system plan was to go with the highest Money Line Morning Line Favorite as the play of the day.
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                                                    • floridagolfer
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 12-19-08
                                                      • 2757

                                                      #1776
                                                      There's a good reason why the original system plays off opening lines. Using lines as they change would be impossible.
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                                                      • IWinMyBets
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 01-23-10
                                                        • 106

                                                        #1777
                                                        I'm seeing Tampa Bay as the Fav of today 4/7. -220 at Sportsbook.com
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                                                        • reverend
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 06-01-09
                                                          • 880

                                                          #1778
                                                          tampa would be the play today if you are playing it these first 2 weeks.
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                                                          • BuffaloBettor
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 12-15-08
                                                            • 445

                                                            #1779
                                                            I am on the Rays (-1.5)..-105 Carib.....good luck everyone.....
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                                                            • floridagolfer
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-19-08
                                                              • 2757

                                                              #1780
                                                              Originally posted by reverend
                                                              tampa would be the play today if you are playing it these first 2 weeks.
                                                              Correct, and it would be a Game B wager because Arizona was a loser on Tuesday night.
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                                                              • reverend
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 06-01-09
                                                                • 880

                                                                #1781
                                                                your right floridagolfer, i was mistaken. i was thinking the rays were yesterdays play, but it was arizona on the opener.
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                                                                • venture
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 11-25-09
                                                                  • 1158

                                                                  #1782
                                                                  You played this system last year? If you did, did you chase to the 6 games for 1 unit. Also you say in never lost 6 in a row but do you have the stats on how many times it went to 6,5,4,3 games, thanks.
                                                                  With the accuscore today’s best home win % is CWS
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                                                                  • venture
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-25-09
                                                                    • 1158

                                                                    #1783
                                                                    Originally posted by thebestthereis
                                                                    FYI. I researched the last 2 years on accuscore. Take the highest HOME win % each day and play the runline. It isn't always the highest odds and half the time you are getting +120, +130. Never lost 6 straight and I looked at every game til the last pitch of the season.
                                                                    sorry, this is the post i was referring to.
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                                                                    • floridagolfer
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-19-08
                                                                      • 2757

                                                                      #1784
                                                                      Originally posted by venture
                                                                      You played this system last year? If you did, did you chase to the 6 games for 1 unit. Also you say in never lost 6 in a row but do you have the stats on how many times it went to 6,5,4,3 games, thanks.
                                                                      With the accuscore today’s best home win % is CWS

                                                                      For the entire 2009 season (but keep in mind, several players do NOT play this over the first and last two weeks of the season), it went to a Game C winner eight times, a Game D winner 7 times, no Game E winners, one Game F winner and one losing series (next to the last week of the season).
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                                                                      • IWinMyBets
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 01-23-10
                                                                        • 106

                                                                        #1785
                                                                        For those who are jumping in early on the ML Fav system...I'm seeing Atlanta as the early favorite.
                                                                        -180.
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