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this game will NOT be a close matchup. with that being said, i would take ohio state up to -6. thats how good they are... simple. i dont care if you agree or not, in my eyes clemson is a 3-lost team.. they lost to pitt.. should have lost to NC state & louisville.. in those games i just referred to came down to flukes. clemson got extremely lucky.. ohio state is going to not necessarily demolish, but give clemson a couple of black eyes.. 10 or 15pt win.
Obviously Blowjoe's supposition, that the 3.5 point line would bait bettors into backing the underdog, doesn't apply to the posters in this thread. I don't know what you guys see in Ohio State but have fun flushing your funds down the toilet.
i think its too early to be finalizing any picks but OSU is a strong lean, possible lay off. its an interesting gameOriginally Posted by Eddy Munny
Obviously Blowjoe's supposition, that the 3.5 point line would bait bettors into backing the underdog, doesn't apply to the posters in this thread. I don't know what you guys see in Ohio State but have fun flushing your funds down the toilet.
Amen Brother
Ohio. State lost to Penn st. Had problems with michigan and Wisconsin. Lol. What makes this team so great? They can only hope Clemson puts them out of their misery because Alabama will drag em.
Can't wait to see the result of this game to see who is right and wrong
Both teams overrated. No clue who wins. Meyer probably pulls it off.
Prior to last years championship game Clemson beat Oklahoma soundly, Re-wind to '14 and they destroyed Oklahoma in Russel Athletics Bowl, go back another year and they beat Ohio State pretty soundly in the Orange bowl.
That's good coaching and definitely should be considered before betting this game. This is actually going to be the 4th bowl game in a row they have played either Ohio State or Oklahoma. They are 3-0 so far, who's to say they won't go 4-0.
Me
Urban has championships and DEBOZO has none.
Great job Ed, you really made an idiot of yourself huh? I told you that you could either have fun, or be an idiot! You chose #2! LOL
Also you can't read & comprehend what people write, so what's the use in continuing! But at least you admitted that you can't read so, I apologize for that. Maybe you can go back to school one day and learn.
As for you saying that I said the number 3 and 7 are key in football, LOL once again YOU CAN'T READ!! I said when the lines makers make a line that is a half a point from 7 or 3, then it highly influences the action for one side.
At least your post was funny to me, albeit a total waste of time.
I agree with all of your posts. I'm just having fun here. I love taking the points, so maybe Clemson will win. But I don't care. I just know that if if a line is plus 3.5 (or plus 7.5) then I don't take the plus side.
I also totally agree that whoever wins the OSU Clemson game, is just a mere formality. The winner will just lose to Alabama the next week.
If they make Alabama minus 7.5 then I will think they will win & cover!
Last edited by blowjoe2020; 12-09-16 at 09:56 PM.
Whoa Ed, don't speak for others on here about who does & doesn't take the line into consideration when they bet!! If you just haphazardly make your bets with out looking at what the line is, then you idiocy is FAR worse than I ever imagined!
Look at your panic-stricken triple posts. You haven't even figured out how separate paragraphs yet, so you just did the next best thing and made entirely different posts for each paragraph...And you're calling others idiots?
You have no clue what you're talking about and neither does anyone else. Keep throwing darts and trying to pass it off as handicapping. Your bookie must love you... mulling over the point spread and trying to decipher some end-all meaning from it like some bimbo reading her astrological chart in the Sunday paper. Gtfo!
LOL Ed, It looks like all my posts have different paragraphs. I was posting to the other reply-ers in the middle post, then I saw your idiotic post about speaking for others and saying they don't take the line into consideration when they bet!! So I posted to you again because that is absolute idiocy.
So once again you can't read too good and I'm sorry for you about that. Either that or you don't know how to see when a new paragraph is started! LOL Either way kid, you are just an "instigator" like Woody Woodpecker with your childish replies!
By the way my bookie often pays me handsomely because I take + 2.5 and + 6.5 very often.
If you could read, then you'd see that I've already said that after 25 years of gambling that is one of the only things that continues to work at about a 65 or 70% clip.
Nobody knows who is going to win ANY game kid. Fumbles, penalties, make it impossible. But you CAN use the opening line to glean who Vegas wants idiot amateurs like you to take, and then take the other side and be on the side of the book.
But just keep playing around with your posts on here like a rabbit jumping around on LSD or something! LOL That is fun too.
A time waste, but fun!
Take care.
Great write up!!!
Eddy feels threatened when someone of your intellectual knowledge post on forum. I'm a believer in your theory on line moves. It went way over Eddy's head.
BOL
No, sorry to disappoint you Phattdaddy, but Blowjob's elementary process for picking games didn't go over anyone's head... it's just superstitious nonsense and nowhere in his original thesis, or follow-up damage control efforts did he allow for any flexibility on this "golden rule" of his, which makes it all the more inane.
Blowjob, you still haven't figured out how to space paragraphs apart. Maybe you should consider a free typing course at your local library for other cavemen like yourself who find modern conveniences confusing and confounding.... Or you could just continue with the triple posts like a jackass.
And save yourself the embarrassment of critiquing my reading and comprehension, when, in post #49, you literally pecked out the snarky line "so once again you can't read too good."
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His name is BLOWJOE NOT BLOWJOB!!!No, sorry to disappoint you Phattdaddy, but Blowjob's elementary process for picking games didn't go over anyone's head... it's just superstitious nonsense and nowhere in his original thesis, or follow-up damage control efforts did he allow for any flexibility on this "golden rule" of his, which makes it all the more inane.
Blowjob, you still haven't figured out how to space paragraphs apart. Maybe you should consider a free typing course at your local library for other cavemen like yourself who find modern conveniences confusing and confounding.... Or you could just continue with the triple posts like a jackass.
And save yourself the embarrassment of critiquing my reading and comprehension, when, in post #49, you literally pecked out the snarky line "so once again you can't read too good."
lol
LOL I'm from Georgia, not Ole Piss! And you don't have to hit "enter" twice to make a new paragraph kid! Hitting enter only ONCE will suffice unless you are an idiot! Or a moron! Sorry you don't know these grade-school things kid.
But hey, if we keep on, then I'd just say that if you call looking at the opening line an "elementary process for picking games" or "superstitious", then you are so imbecilic and such a novice that you wish you were from Mississippi! LOL
I told you in an earlier post that you didn't take Clemson because of the extra half point with the 3 like a lot of novices did. I told you that you would take Clemson no matter what the line was! But even I didn't think that you were stupid enough to say that you don't even take the opening line into consideration when you bet. My gosh kid, I'm sorrier for you than I have ever been so far! That is too elementary for me to continue with you. I can't go down to a level that stupid.
This isn't even any fun anymore now. You ruined it with your juvenile stupidity about the importance of looking at opening lines.
Thanks Phatt. The kid turned out to be a waste of time. It was still fun, but some noob not knowing the importance of what the opening line is set at, just completely turned me off. He will just keep on with the juvenile name calling, but I probably won't.
Take care.
amen brother
go dogs!!!!
Great write ups and your welcome. I love Georgia used to live in Atlanta in early 90's when Braves owned that town. Ted and Jane was great!
Scary thing is all you azzholes are gonna play bama and ohio st. on new years eve and get buried!!
Blowjob, you're a moron. The only people you're fooling is fellow morons. Anyone else can see right through your lame attempts to clamber out of the hole which now serves as your burial ground.
Nowhere in any of my posts did I say I don't look at the number. Betting is all about the number (obviously) unless you're strictly taking the moneyline. That's just desperate rhetoric on your part. You're a very desperate man, Blowjob.
You, on the other hand, DID say that when a spread was 3.5 or 6.5, for example, that you had little interest in what two teams were involved... you would just simply bet according to your "golden rule" and walk away knowing you had already won. You then claimed that this would hit at a 70% clip.
Last edited by Eddy Munny; 12-11-16 at 10:23 AM.
Cruel post EDDY.Blowjob, you're a moron. The only people you're fooling is fellow morons. Anyone else can see right through your lame attempts to clamber out of the hole which now serves as your burial ground.
Nowhere in any of my posts did I say I don't look at the number. Betting is all about the number (obviously) unless you're strictly taking the moneyline. That's just desperate rhetoric on your part. You're a very desperate man, Blowjob.
You, on the other hand, DID say that when a spread was 3.5 or 6.5, for example, that you had little interest in what two teams were involved... you would just simply bet according to your "golden rule" and walk away knowing you had already won. You then claimed that this would hit at a 70% clip.
MERRY XMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!
LOL
You guys get worse and worse in here. Sorry Blowjoe but claiming that lines of +2 1/2 or +6 1/2 pays off at 65-70% is pure Bull
sh*t. PROVE IT!! We just ran another idiot out of here who claimed to win at that type of percentage and lost his wagers. Do not bother to try and spew that B.S. As far as this game goes, it is way too far for you desperate people to start talking about it. Practice has not even opened yet and finals just ended, meaning that there has not been enough time for injuries, suspensions, or arrests to take their toll, and they always do. Ohio State has the better team. Clemson has the better player. Ohio State is a -3 (-120) OR -3 1/2 (-110) favorite. For those of you who do not know, (which is all of the air bettors in here and many others), those odds are interchangeable. You can get either line at any Vegas Book. All -3 -120 means is that you bought the hook.
Meanwhile today the houston texans were +6.5 and won the whole game, and the miami dolphins were + 2.5 and also won the whole game! NY jets + 2.5 won the whole game.. going 3 and 0 is even better than 65% isn't it? did any of you go 3 and 0 today simply by betting the lines of + 2.5 and + 6.5? I thought not!
Don't crash this until you see how often it wins! It is an incredible thing and I can't believe more of you haven't caught on to it yet!
Bigdaddy when you buy a half a point from 3 or 7 it isn't just 10% more grease! Or everybody on earth would buy the hook on 3 & 7!!
It is 20%, and often even 25% MORE than the original 10% grease to buy off 3 flat or 7 flat!
How do you not know that? LOL Have you only been gambling 2 weeks or something!
Last edited by blowjoe2020; 12-12-16 at 02:36 AM.
Also Ed, I am the assistant manager at the Shop & Lift. Not a cashier!
Clemson wins they have offense power. I can see Dabo Sweney just snorting cocaine and watching game film.
Good stuff my man. Squares don't have a clue.
Wow! A team that's +2.5 and probably +140 on the moneyline won the game?! How could this be? That never happens! Way to go out on a limb.
These weren't opening lines. The Fish opened as favorites. The Niners opened as -1 and were bet up to -3 where the line held steady up until kickoff. I guess you could say the Texans fit the formula but you're conveniently omitting the Bills +2.5, the Saints +2.5, and the Giants +3.5... all of which roundly contradict your golden rule.
Sure, anybody can cherry-pick the games that support their assertions and say "see, I told you so" but that's completely disingenuous and a disservice to anyone who blindly follows your word as gospel. If you want to paint a complete picture, you'll see this system is as flawed as most, and nowhere near 70%. If you want to make-believe and claim it went 3-0, then you're nothing short of a charlatan selling snake oil.
Wow Eddy Dummy, now you are delving more into the opening lines than even I might do! LOL I'll agree and say that As far as the "pure" opening lines go, it looks like Houston + 6.5 was the only one that opened there and stayed there, so I could say I was 1 and 0 this week.
But The Ravens have also been + 6.5 all week so it will either be 2 - 0 this week or 1 and 1. Or you could take the +1 unit and not play + 6.5 tonight.
But anyway, You said looking at the opening line to see who Vegas was trying to get the suckers to take was "an "elementary process for picking games" or "superstitious", and now you've "changed your tune" and dug deep into the openers! So which is it? Are you now saying that you look at opening lines for ideas on who Vegas wants the suckers like you to take? Or do you totally eschew the opening line and bet games based on "handicapping" who you think is "better" than the other team? LOL
You can't have it both ways kid! It either one or the other, or you are a hypocrite!
WTF are you talking about? I only mentioned opening lines because YOU specified as much somewhere in your thesis or subsequent posts.
Here's the way I look at it... forget opening lines per se, and focus on what number Vegas was dangling out in public for the majority of the week. That being said, I'll grant you the Texans and Cardinals for sure, and I'll even give you the Jets, although that spread hit -3 and never came back down, in a sense disqualifying it as a true "bait line" for your golden rule. Nonetheless, I'll give you those three.
Now combined with the Bills, Saints, and Giants, that puts your precious system at 50%.
As for the Patriots, how you even assess this game? Are we going by the closing number now? Because the Patriots were -7.5 for a spell, then -7, and now obviously -6.5... which places them on either side of your golden rule depending on what time of the week.
Basically, we're splitting hairs over a "system" that's not even a system and completely falters under scrutiny. Furthermore, the proponent of this joke (YOU) doesn't even acknowledge the games that so OBVIOUSLY contradict his conclusions about said system.
In a nutshell, it's what I thought it was and have been saying it was all along.... NOTHING. You erroneously claim 70% but the facts suggest percentages more akin to that of a coin flip. So who are we to trust, facts? Or some stranger on the 'net who pays his bookie orally...?
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