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  • vitalyo
    SBR MVP
    • 12-05-07
    • 1615

    #561
    Originally posted by shari91
    How in the hell would Cory writing an apology to Wilheim for being supposedly mean to him on forums damage SBR? Did you read the example apology boatboatboat wrote? Please explain that to me.
    Apology to Shilheim comes with
    he must also publicly release SBR & Justin7 as his chosen mediators
    Justin7/SBR exposed them! Releasing SBR & Justin7 would prove them incompetent , not been able to handle dispute . You think this scums just post to post . They will twist and turn every word of an apology.
    Do you know what they will ask him to do next ? I don't
    Asking to publicly release SBR & Justin7. Why ?
    I would think SBR is the only source that can make them or break them .
    The book is done ! As i said before even established books would have hard time to recover from publicity like they got ,not to mention 30%-50%-100% CASH bonuses they gave away ( we all know how this shit works)

    Sleazy are asking him to do a lot of other things that are not in their TAC . I will not be surprised if they ask Cory to take polygraph test naked , just to make sure he doesn't cheat .
    Fly to Costa Rica, do the polygraph test, apologize to some dude that affiliated with them .


    I can't figure it out what an apology to Shilheim has to do with 46K no pay .
    First they steal the money from the player ,then refuse to pay him on fantasy grounds , later they want him to apologize to one their accomplice with theft .


    GL.
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    • Counterfeit Cash
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-03-11
      • 668

      #562
      I will say though that I hope this issue is solidified soon in one way or another - I may be on the player's side (if for no other reason than it seems his winnings are legit) but all the topics concerning this horror movie are starting to annoy me.

      It was a nice soap opera starting off, but now, it's getting a bit meh.

      Also, I want to say that I actually understand where Vitalyo & others are coming from when they say the apology will hurt Cory more than help, I just can't explain it in a way that would keep me from sounding a bit off, ha ha...but yeah, Cory could actually be cornered & put away by that apology, as well as yeah, there could be backlash of even the smallest sort on Justin7 & Co. side...

      It's all politics in the end, so if you think about it, Vitalyo is actually making a fair point.
      Last edited by Counterfeit Cash; 04-13-11, 12:17 PM.
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      • shari91
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 02-23-10
        • 32661

        #563
        Originally posted by vitalyo
        Apology to Shilheim comes with Justin7/SBR exposed them! Releasing SBR & Justin7 would prove them incompetent , not been able to handle dispute . You think this scums just post to post . They will twist and turn every word of an apology. Do you know what they will ask him to do next ? I don't Asking to publicly release SBR & Justin7. Why ? I would think SBR is the only source that can make them or break them . The book is done ! As i said before even established books would have hard time to recover from publicity like they got ,not to mention 30%-50%-100% CASH bonuses they gave away ( we all know how this shit works) Sleazy are asking him to do a lot of other things that are not in their TAC . I will not be surprised if they ask Cory to take polygraph test naked , just to make sure he doesn't cheat . Fly to Costa Rica, do the polygraph test, apologize to some dude that affiliated with them . I can't figure it out what an apology to Shilheim has to do with 46K no pay . First they steal the money from the player ,then refuse to pay him on fantasy grounds , later they want him to apologize to one their accomplice with theft . GL.
        The thing is, Easystreet Sports has already refused to communicate with SBR at all. They booted Justin and SBR from the process awhile ago. The Rx has even gone so far as to block SBR's IP from their site. So that's why what you said doesn't make sense to me. Justin isn't a mediator as Easystreet Sports won't let him be one. And I can only assume it's because Justin exposed them so badly that they knew by letting him continue to be involved it would only be worse.

        So even by Cory saying "I publicly release Justin and SBR as my mediator", what does that achieve? That's where the whole thing is already at. It doesn't mean Justin can't advise him behind the scenes. It just means Justin can't take place in the negotiations. But he can't already because those assholes booted him from the whole process. Hence the title of thread.

        We're on the same side vitalyo. I promise you. And even if they somehow twisted the apology, how many people would be there to refute it? It's not like Rx posters don't also visit here. Most of the posters on other forums have condemned Easystreet Sports and Wilheim. They would be the first ones to say the truth. Very loudly.

        Again though, Cory said how he feels and I back that totally. These fukkers are scammers and bullshit artists. All of them, including their shills. I'll be very happy when it all blows up in their faces even more than it has now.
        Last edited by shari91; 04-13-11, 12:30 PM.
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        • benjy
          SBR MVP
          • 02-19-09
          • 2158

          #564
          Should we all be spelling out the full name of Easystreet Sports to ensure that this thread goes as high as possible in the search rankings?
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          • shari91
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 02-23-10
            • 32661

            #565
            Originally posted by benjy
            Should we all be spelling out the full name of Easystreet Sports to ensure that this thread goes as high as possible in the search rankings?
            Yes!!

            I was doing that but no one else was so I stopped. Going back to edit my posts now.
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            • shari91
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 02-23-10
              • 32661

              #566
              Originally posted by Counterfeit Cash
              Also, I want to say that I actually understand where Vitalyo & others are coming from when they say the apology will hurt Cory more than help, I just can't explain it in a way that would keep me from sounding a bit off, ha ha...but yeah, Cory could actually be cornered & put away by that apology, as well as yeah, there could be backlash of even the smallest sort on Justin7 & Co. side... It's all politics in the end, so if you think about it, Vitalyo is actually making a fair point.
              He's already been fukked over by them every which way and everyone with an unbiased clue knows it. Everyone also knows that Easystreet Sports booted SBR from the process and banned their IP address when Justin revealed the truth and fallacies about the situation.

              A few of you have said this so I'm sure there's an angle I'm missing but my pea brain can't see it yet. I'm just more curious than anything because usually I can pick up on what people are saying but right now I'm lost.
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              • excel
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                • 03-25-10
                • 4270

                #567
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                • Counterfeit Cash
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 01-03-11
                  • 668

                  #568
                  Originally posted by shari91

                  He's already been fukked over by them every which way and everyone with an unbiased clue knows it. Everyone also knows that Easystreet Sports booted SBR from the process and banned their IP address when Justin revealed the truth and fallacies about the situation.

                  A few of you have said this so I'm sure there's an angle I'm missing but my pea brain can't see it yet. I'm just more curious than anything because usually I can pick up on what people are saying but right now I'm lost.
                  Well, I guess the best way to explain would be this:

                  Let's start by saying that since there are a few (strong) supporters of the book that post here, I'm sure they will bring up a few of these convo's should Cory step forward with an apology...they (EZ) could then bring into question the sincerity of said apology, and the fact that Cory now after all this time disputing the decision, decides to do a complete 180 and surrender at the mercy of the book.

                  Now, maybe they won't go out of their way to incriminate Cory for coming forward, but we have already seen how arrogant EZ has been in their stance against the player (ie. the supposed Poker tourney). They could also say (if they wanted to further humiliate Cory) "if you feel you did no real harm in all of this, why would you apologize? A person staunch in his/her decision would stand by it no matter what." Now, again...it sounds strange, but this type of logic is used all the time, court cases are a good example of this.

                  As for discrediting Justin7 & others who assisted, Vitalyo posted that one of the conditions was for Cory to essentially drop them from his backing...if they already dismissed Justin and SBR initially, why would they need to further enforce this point? So should Cory take those measures and remove SBR for sake of the investigation, They can then "deal" with Cory - who has nobody of significance in his corner afterwards...they would then use Cory releasing them as some for of twisted justification that their input into the situation was unnecessary and disingenuous to the investigation to begin with.

                  Again, I know it sounds weird, but I can't further explain cause i'm about to head off to work...but as I stated earlier, it's old school politics, these types of tactics have been used forever.
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                  • shari91
                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                    • 02-23-10
                    • 32661

                    #569
                    If Easystreet Sports thought the apology would be sincere, they have bloody rocks in their head. Everyone knows that Cory would just be doing it in order to comply with their latest bullshit.

                    If they pulled this: "if you feel you did no real harm in all of this, why would you apologize? A person staunch in his/her decision would stand by it no matter what." Couldn't he just say: "Ummm, I apologised because I want the fukking money you stole from me and this was the only way to maybe reopen negotiations with you since you refused to consider my suggestion of Vegas and Shackleford unless I apologised?"

                    As far as removing SBR, if they had said he has to agree not to post here, talk to Justin on or off the forum, etc... I could see that. But they didn't. They only said he has to "publicly release Justin and SBR as his mediator". Which was seriously fukking stupid of them as they've already done that themselves. Justin can't talk to them. SBR can't talk to them or even the Rx. Neither Justin nor anyone from SBR is acting as the role of a mediator as it is since Easystreet Sports removed that option awhile ago. They didn't say they want him to vow he won't talk to Justin or SBR about this case.

                    Believe me, whomever wrote that post with the apology request is a serious idiot because they could've stitched Cory up very well but in my mind they fukked up, yet again, royally.

                    I get what you're saying but I still don't if that makes sense. Doesn't matter though - Cory made his decision and that's the only important thing here.
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                    • Scooter
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-15-07
                      • 1159

                      #570
                      They are not going to pay Cory.
                      The apology will be used against Cory and used to try to excuse their behavior.

                      Cory writes "I'm sorry I said negative things about Will. I do not want Justin7 and SBR to represent me."

                      Sounds innocent?

                      Now EZ posts the apology in every forum and spreads false info:
                      "We wanted to help Cory.
                      Will wanted to help Cory.
                      But as Cory admits here, his behavior made this impossible.
                      That's not surprising, as he's cheated 64 books in the past, etc.

                      He's also realized that SBR and Justin7 were not really working in his interest, and he's publicly stated here that he wants nothing more to do with them.
                      That's also not surprising, as SBR/Justin7 has been lying throughout, etc.

                      Unfortunately, we gave Cory numerous opportunities to settle but both his negative behavior, which he's admitted to here, and his unfortunate choice of representatives, made it impossible for us to deal with him.

                      We have given up and have closed the books on this case, as we stated a week ago."

                      Or any of dozens of other versions of this.

                      The apology, as vitalyo said, is going to undo all the great work Justin7 has done, and will just be used by EZ to try to get them off the hot seat.

                      It's incredibly naive (to be kind) for anyone who's been following this to believe that anything positive will arise from Cory going along with this latest scam from EZ.
                      Last edited by Scooter; 04-13-11, 01:14 PM.
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                      • shari91
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 02-23-10
                        • 32661

                        #571
                        Yes Scooter - I understand.

                        But who would they say that to who wouldn't know the truth?

                        Post it on a forum??? Which one???

                        Say it to a potential client? Well if they didn't do their due diligence before depositing and looked at multiple forums, chances are we couldn't help them anyway.

                        I guess I'm just clueless and/or naive. I just assumed that if they tried that shit, there'd be enough of us around to refute it. Especially after seeing how people bumped old posts and threads across the forums during this whole saga. I could be wrong though. Maybe the majority of people will eventually forget about it all and not even bother getting the truth out there.

                        Thanks for the example
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                        • xstud
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-12-08
                          • 1643

                          #572
                          Both sides have handled this horribly.

                          Cory should have never started multiple threads at forums bashing Easystreet because they don't have a lot of incentive to even pay him a small portion of the winnings.

                          Easystreet should not just "Pretend" this has gone away. I admit I have and do play there and they have paid me numerous times. I also admit that they are handling this whole issue just about as badly as they can.

                          The thing that is not right is people that support Cory saying that this book is "A scam" or "Broke" one of the many things you don't have proof of. Unfortunately Cory has a checkered past and a line was drawn in the sand. At the same time the minority of people who support or somewhat support Easystreet in this matter have not listed books or said "Cory is broke". I still believe he is not an honest player and certain forums will refuse to even represent players and allow them to post if they have a very checkered past.

                          My question for Cory is... IF Easystreet were to pay you why would you NOT immediately make right the books you have wronged? Will the 46k not cover that debt? Why would you ever let your past history remain an issue for in the future whenever you play at any sportsbook?

                          As for Easystreet. If you look at all the books out there from 5dimes to sportsbook.com EVERY book has had its fair share of disputes and some would classify theft and others would say it is business. The way this dispute has gotten out of hand with new threads popping up daily and accusations flying left and right is very sad considering the book still is paying players. I don't remember near this many threads or heated debates when Bet911 stiffed people and they were in FULL no pay mode and admitted it.

                          Easystreet shill employee ID #33 out.
                          Last edited by xstud; 04-13-11, 01:56 PM.
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                          • cory1111
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                            • 11-19-10
                            • 1921

                            #573
                            xstud I cant answer your question because I havent been paid yet. Once that is done then I might answer you. Until then its no ones business. According to Easystreet I dont have a future with sportsbooks, so it wouldnt be an issue.
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                            • Scooter
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-15-07
                              • 1159

                              #574
                              Xstud/steveX is aleX powers, EZ's manager.
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                              • cory1111
                                Restricted User
                                • 11-19-10
                                • 1921

                                #575
                                And if you think I dont have better things to do than to criticize a book your wrong. I didnt ask for this when I deposited with EZ. I played and won. They did all the tests possible to see if I used a bot. No evidence or facts said I did. I been criticized since day one by many people and I never asked for an apology. I want this over as much as anybody. EZ and Wilheim had a chance to make this right all this time and it seems like we are going in circles.
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                                • exstatman
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 11-02-06
                                  • 1060

                                  #576
                                  Using part of the EZ Street logic, no lottery should ever pay a jackpot, because there's no way statistically a ticket with 1/10/100/1000 sets of numbers should be able to overcome odds of 175 million to 1.
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                                  • benjy
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-19-09
                                    • 2158

                                    #577
                                    Originally posted by xstud

                                    As for Easystreet. If you look at all the books out there from 5dimes to sportsbook.com EVERY book has had its fair of disputes and some would classify theft and others would say it is business. The way this dispute has gotten out of hand with new threads popping up daily and accusations flying left and right is very sad considering the book still is paying players. I don't remember near this many threads or heated debates when Bet911 stiffed people and they were in FULL no pay mode and admitted it.

                                    Easystreet shill employee ID #33 out.
                                    There are disputes. Then there is thievery. Then there is Easystreet Sports: Stealing money from a player and compounding their thievery by repeatedly lying about it.

                                    Easystreet Sports deceit, prevarication, and obfuscation on this whole situation is reprehensible.

                                    Simpy put, you are scum.
                                    Last edited by benjy; 04-13-11, 02:04 PM.
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                                    • xstud
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-12-08
                                      • 1643

                                      #578
                                      Scooter. I am also Tony from 5dimes, I am Charlie Sheens 3rd cousin twice removed. Oh I also use a special magic that allows me to mysteriously be a person who lives in Costa Rica yet live in a house in Florida and have a Florida IP address!

                                      But hey the more you post it may happen. I may wake up tomorrow and actually BE Mr. Alex Powers.
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                                      • cory1111
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 11-19-10
                                        • 1921

                                        #579
                                        Regardless of whos who, its up to Easystreetsports.com and Wilheim to make this situation right. Things have been said on both sides. Alex Powers knows how to reach me.
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                                        • Fishhead
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 08-11-05
                                          • 40179

                                          #580
                                          Originally posted by xstud
                                          Scooter. I am also Tony from 5dimes, I am Charlie Sheens 3rd cousin twice removed. Oh I also use a special magic that allows me to mysteriously be a person who lives in Costa Rica yet live in a house in Florida and have a Florida IP address!

                                          But hey the more you post it may happen. I may wake up tomorrow and actually BE Mr. Alex Powers.



                                          Whoever you may be, it is clearly evident you are biased beyond any reasonable comprehension.
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                                          • shari91
                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                            • 02-23-10
                                            • 32661

                                            #581
                                            xstud, I appreciate your earlier post but please extend me the courtesy of answering this question:

                                            What made you post that now? I've been watching your posts very closely, both when I've been working and when I haven't been because in all honesty, I felt there was something dodgy about you. Not something that would get you banned or whatever - as Justin said, despite what some like to claim that's not our thing here. But because I wanted to figure out where you're coming from.

                                            What prompted you to say this now when nothing has changed in the past few days?
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                                            • xstud
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-12-08
                                              • 1643

                                              #582
                                              Originally posted by benjy
                                              There are disputes. Then there is thievery. Then there is Easystreet Sports: Stealing money from a player and compounding their thievery by repeated lying about it.

                                              Easystreet Sports deceit, prevarication, and obfuscation on this whole situation is reprehensible.

                                              Simpy put, you are scum.
                                              So when someone does charge backs against a book. Not just cory.. Anyone for that matter. What does that make them?

                                              Unfortunately, like I said before both sides have handled this horribly. Maybe Easystreet will be broke in a week or perhaps never run out of money. Maybe they will decide to do something for Cory or just say **** it entirely. The only good thing that has come out of this is realizing that a lot of players will stick together in a dispute no matter who the person is or the past they have.

                                              Aside from the issue at hand. I wish that SBR would interview a few sportsbook managers to share with us the damage that charge backs have on this industry. I am not referring to just Cory here. I believe some people are quick to dismiss the fact that certain players hold the industry down just as certain bad books do. BUT I would like anyone else with a checkered history to avoid being in this mess.
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                                              • benjy
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-19-09
                                                • 2158

                                                #583
                                                Originally posted by xstud
                                                So when someone does charge backs against a book. Not just cory.. Anyone for that matter. What does that make them?

                                                Unfortunately, like I said before both sides have handled this horribly. Maybe Easystreet will be broke in a week or perhaps never run out of money. Maybe they will decide to do something for Cory or just say **** it entirely. The only good thing that has come out of this is realizing that a lot of players will stick together in a dispute no matter who the person is or the past they have.

                                                Aside from the issue at hand. I wish that SBR would interview a few sportsbook managers to share with us the damage that charge backs have on this industry. I am not referring to just Cory here. I believe some people are quick to dismiss the fact that certain players hold the industry down just as certain bad books do. BUT I would like anyone else with a checkered history to avoid being in this mess.
                                                Yadda, yadda, yadda.

                                                Who appointed Easystreet Sports vigilante-in-chief? Hmm?

                                                Any chance they'll use the funds they've stolen from him to pay the other books for his chargebacks in his past? Not bloody likely. They'll just keep the cash from him. Thieves.

                                                No sorry, I meant to say Easystreet Sports are lying, deceitful, scumbags who are also theives.
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                                                • Fishhead
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-11-05
                                                  • 40179

                                                  #584
                                                  Originally posted by xstud
                                                  So when someone does charge backs against a book. Not just cory.. Anyone for that matter. What does that make them?

                                                  Unfortunately, like I said before both sides have handled this horribly. Maybe Easystreet will be broke in a week or perhaps never run out of money. Maybe they will decide to do something for Cory or just say **** it entirely. The only good thing that has come out of this is realizing that a lot of players will stick together in a dispute no matter who the person is or the past they have.

                                                  Aside from the issue at hand. I wish that SBR would interview a few sportsbook managers to share with us the damage that charge backs have on this industry. I am not referring to just Cory here. I believe some people are quick to dismiss the fact that certain players hold the industry down just as certain bad books do. BUT I would like anyone else with a checkered history to avoid being in this mess.

                                                  ........for crying out loud.
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                                                  • xstud
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 01-12-08
                                                    • 1643

                                                    #585
                                                    Originally posted by shari91
                                                    xstud, I appreciate your earlier post but please extend me the courtesy of answering this question:

                                                    What made you post that now? I've been watching your posts very closely, both when I've been working and when I haven't been because in all honesty, I felt there was something dodgy about you. Not something that would get you banned or whatever - as Justin said, despite what some like to claim that's not our thing here. But because I wanted to figure out where you're coming from.

                                                    What prompted you to say this now when nothing has changed in the past few days?
                                                    Because by me saying the book pays me and defending the book in every single post all it does is create further hostility. I have my opinion and have decided to keep it. I am just a customer who has had positive experiences with this book.

                                                    The thing that was bringing out my desire to defend Easystreet was that so many individuals were so quick to say "The book is broke" and "They will never pay anyone" both instances were not and are not true. The fact is they have 1 dispute and both Easy and Cory have handled this bad. I cannot continue to defend all aspects of Easystreet because while some may disagree I am not that foolish. However, I feel it is not fair to put them on par with "No Pay books" and throw certain assumptions left and right.

                                                    If I keep posting positives about Easystreet all that would do is bring the same 4 posters to post the same things. So I think it's about time that if I decide to post on this share a more realistic point of view.

                                                    I hope that long winded answer provided you with some insight behind my "Dodgyness" (I don't mean to use that as sarcasm)
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                                                    • shari91
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 02-23-10
                                                      • 32661

                                                      #586
                                                      Originally posted by xstud
                                                      So when someone does charge backs against a book. Not just cory.. Anyone for that matter. What does that make them? Unfortunately, like I said before both sides have handled this horribly. Maybe Easystreet will be broke in a week or perhaps never run out of money. Maybe they will decide to do something for Cory or just say **** it entirely. The only good thing that has come out of this is realizing that a lot of players will stick together in a dispute no matter who the person is or the past they have. Aside from the issue at hand. I wish that SBR would interview a few sportsbook managers to share with us the damage that charge backs have on this industry. I am not referring to just Cory here. I believe some people are quick to dismiss the fact that certain players hold the industry down just as certain bad books do. BUT I would like anyone else with a checkered history to avoid being in this mess.
                                                      So Easystreet Sports is now the white knight of the offshore industry??? Yet they've never even come out and said that's what they're doing????

                                                      You're not talking about Pinny, the Greek or Betfair here. You're talking about a teeny book which the average bettor had never even heard of before Cory's case, other than those who were smart enough to go after their casino bonuses and those who knew Powers from his thefts in the past. Get it on record for us that a MAJOR book thinks this is a good idea - although again, even Easystreet Sports has never said they're going to pay out those books supposedly stiffed - and I might side with you.

                                                      Come the fukk on.
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                                                      • shari91
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 02-23-10
                                                        • 32661

                                                        #587
                                                        Originally posted by xstud
                                                        Because by me saying the book pays me and defending the book in every single post all it does is create further hostility. I have my opinion and have decided to keep it. I am just a customer who has had positive experiences with this book.

                                                        The thing that was bringing out my desire to defend Easystreet was that so many individuals were so quick to say "The book is broke" and "They will never pay anyone" both instances were not and are not true. The fact is they have 1 dispute and both Easy and Cory have handled this bad. I cannot continue to defend all aspects of Easystreet because while some may disagree I am not that foolish. However, I feel it is not fair to put them on par with "No Pay books" and throw certain assumptions left and right.

                                                        If I keep posting positives about Easystreet all that would do is bring the same 4 posters to post the same things. So I think it's about time that if I decide to post on this share a more realistic point of view.

                                                        I hope that long winded answer provided you with some insight behind my "Dodgyness" (I don't mean to use that as sarcasm)
                                                        I think anyone looking at your previous posts about Easystreet Sports would find something strange about them. The constant to and fro with Stevex, the almost Rainman like repetition of the same thing over and over.

                                                        However... I do understand what you're saying about the book being broke. Not sure if you read a page or two ago but I said that while I assume it, until it's confirmed to me by a trusted source then it's only that: An assumption.

                                                        Whether you're an over zealous client or a shill, neither will get you censored as you yourself know. All views should be respected and recognised and I'm glad you finally gave a bit more insight into where you were coming from. That I can respect.
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                                                        • xstud
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 01-12-08
                                                          • 1643

                                                          #588
                                                          It's not about winning people to my side. I am not saying Easystreet is a white knight and they are out to defend all books from bad players. Perhaps I am just bad at writing. IF the book is broke then I will just be stiffed and will learn a lesson.

                                                          I sidetracked into the charge back thing because if this was ANY player without a checkered or dishonest past would this issue still be here?

                                                          I am not referring directly to Easystreet I think certain players are just very bad for the industry and maybe I am even one of them for defending a book. My defense is not as fierce as it was at first because looking at the facts and the demand for an apology is silly at best and I admit that. Bottom line. I feel that I judge a person based on his past because I don't know Cory so I go by his past history at sportsbooks and that is not a great history. I have said before I don't believe he should be stiffed. I personally feel Cory should get his deposits back ASAP.

                                                          Sorry if my opinion makes me a shill or an idiot or whatnot. As long as I am being paid my balance with this book and continue being paid I will hold my opinion where it is. I will quit posting in this thread if it is more beneficial.
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                                                          • shari91
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 02-23-10
                                                            • 32661

                                                            #589
                                                            Originally posted by xstud
                                                            It's not about winning people to my side. I am not saying Easystreet is a white knight and they are out to defend all books from bad players. Perhaps I am just bad at writing.
                                                            No, you're not. You were just being lazy and chirping the same things over and over. In your past few posts you have expressed yourself very well when you actually talk and not merely parrot.

                                                            Originally posted by xstud
                                                            IF the book is broke then I will just be stiffed and will learn a lesson. I sidetracked into the charge back thing because if this was ANY player without a checkered or dishonest past would this issue still be here?
                                                            We unfortunately have no way of knowing what the outcome would be.

                                                            Originally posted by xstud
                                                            I am not referring directly to Easystreet I think certain players are just very bad for the industry and maybe I am even one of them for defending a book. My defense is not as fierce as it was at first because looking at the facts and the demand for an apology is silly at best and I admit that. Bottom line. I feel that I judge a person based on his past because I don't know Cory so I go by his past history at sportsbooks and that is not a great history. I have said before I don't believe he should be stiffed. I personally feel Cory should get his deposits back ASAP. Sorry if my opinion makes me a shill or an idiot or whatnot. As long as I am being paid my balance with this book and continue being paid I will hold my opinion where it is. I will quit posting in this thread if it is more beneficial.
                                                            No, you stopping posting is not beneficial and it's not what anyone wants. But you have to understand that until just now, all of your posts were basically chirpy repetitions of the same thing. Now you're finally talking and explaining your point of view - and although some may disagree with your opinion, you're at least giving more than the shilly stuff you were beforehand. No one can fault you for that. I understand the need to stick up for a book when it's getting slaughtered online - whether it's because one is paid by them somehow, they have a balance in there they hope to recover, etc... Add to that, our natural instincts kick in: The majority of people are on one side and some are stating unproven 'facts', so the inclination to dispute that rises up.

                                                            But it's all good. You can be happy with them as far as your personal experience is concerned. And as you see I'm a nutter when it comes to facts. I don't like assumptions or innuendo - I like the truth. Hopefully you feel the same way
                                                            Last edited by shari91; 04-13-11, 03:09 PM.
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                                                            • HedgeHog
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-11-07
                                                              • 10128

                                                              #590
                                                              Originally posted by boatboatboat
                                                              Show me how EZ will take the following statement and use it as an admission of guilt.

                                                              "To EZ and Will. Things have really gotten out of hand here with all the he said, she said. Things have been said and written by me that shouldn't have been. I can't take back some of the things I have written and said, but if I could, i would. This is harming the RX, EZ and me. For what ever part i have played in that, i am sorry. I have made some errors in how I have handled this. Hind site as they say, is 20/20.

                                                              I feel it is everyones best intrest if we can resolve this amoung our selves, and once we reach a resolution, annoince it on all the fourms. I wish to open a private dialog with all parties envolved and reach an agreement.

                                                              I am extending an olive branch. I hope you accept it


                                                              Sincerly and respectfully yours


                                                              Cory"
                                                              EZ will never acknowledge your well written apology. They will just say that Cory admitted to his guilt on the forums, thus justifying RX's decision in EZ's favor. Everything with EZ is about spin not truth.
                                                              Last edited by HedgeHog; 04-13-11, 03:47 PM.
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                                                              • SBR_John
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 07-12-05
                                                                • 16471

                                                                #591
                                                                Someone mentioned it earlier; does Easystreet even have the cash to pay a $46,000 dollar winner?

                                                                My opinion is they could raise $46,000 if they absolutely needed to. But this is a small book that is probably operating at a loss. So to cough up $46,000 would be really tough. I think the amount involved here can not be over emphasized. The player made too much. These small places just can not afford to take a $40 grand+ hit.
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                                                                • MBENZ
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-07-07
                                                                  • 5238

                                                                  #592
                                                                  Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                                  Someone mentioned it earlier; does Easystreet even have the cash to pay a $46,000 dollar winner?

                                                                  My opinion is they could raise $46,000 if they absolutely needed to. But this is a small book that is probably operating at a loss. So to cough up $46,000 would be really tough. I think the amount involved here can not be over emphasized. The player made too much. These small places just can not afford to take a $40 grand+ hit.
                                                                  Apparently what worked on the credit side(stiff at all cost) is not working to well on the post up side of things.I'm surprised there has not been made more of the RX mod Betallsports admission to EZs credit of stiffing.You are most likely right,they're living on a shoestring.
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                                                                  • HedgeHog
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-11-07
                                                                    • 10128

                                                                    #593
                                                                    But didn't EZ put up the disputed amount in escrow with RX. Wilheim wouldn't lie about this...would he?
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                                                                    • Dark Horse
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-14-05
                                                                      • 13764

                                                                      #594
                                                                      Originally posted by SBR_John
                                                                      Someone mentioned it earlier; does Easystreet even have the cash to pay a $46,000 dollar winner?

                                                                      My opinion is they could raise $46,000 if they absolutely needed to. But this is a small book that is probably operating at a loss. So to cough up $46,000 would be really tough. I think the amount involved here can not be over emphasized. The player made too much. These small places just can not afford to take a $40 grand+ hit.

                                                                      A pretty alarming picture of the industry. A book that can't pay out 40K shouldn't be operating at all.
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                                                                      • mrfancy
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 03-15-10
                                                                        • 109

                                                                        #595
                                                                        Serves him right for playing on that horrible site. I guess thats what happens when you stiff 27 other books. lol my favourite was the video "No comment" lol at least the deadbeat didn't lie and say he would pay the other books back. Funny you say you love to gamble yet you have scammed endless books, is it gambling when you can't lose? Karmas a bitch
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