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  • Thremp
    SBR MVP
    • 07-23-07
    • 2067

    #1
    Bet Phoenix STEALS AGAIN
    I bet the Giants +2.5 -220. They void it. Cite "wrong line".

    gmafb

    What a bunch of childish thieves. Can't believe people play there.
  • Peregrine Stoop
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 10-23-09
    • 869

    #2
    given how close that is to everyone else, that is some total horse shit
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    • Thremp
      SBR MVP
      • 07-23-07
      • 2067

      #3
      What is better... Here is the message. Fukkin thieves can't even keep their dicks out of their own asses.

      San Francisco giants +2.5 -195 was deleted due wrong price, the correct price should be -295. Thank you
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      • calm
        SBR Hustler
        • 01-04-08
        • 82

        #4
        "QQ"
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        • ucbearcats1027
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-05-09
          • 903

          #5
          dude who are you betting that anyway
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          • tomcowley
            SBR MVP
            • 10-01-07
            • 1129

            #6
            Who bets women's tennis?? Who does that?????
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            • rem sleep
              SBR MVP
              • 10-04-10
              • 1238

              #7
              wow, thats their fault not yours, thats bulls**t
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              • RonPaul2008
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-08-07
                • 6741

                #8
                Originally posted by Thremp
                What is better... Here is the message. Fukkin thieves can't even keep their dicks out of their own asses.
                Was this in-game?

                If not -295 for the moneyline? ummm...no.

                WTF?

                So far I have never had a play canceled there....
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                • KGambler
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-09-09
                  • 2404

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Thremp
                  I bet the Giants +2.5 -220. They void it. Cite "wrong line".

                  gmafb

                  What a bunch of childish thieves. Can't believe people play there.
                  BetPhoenix are always looking to screw over winning players. They are lying, thieving scum. Hands down the worst book I have ever dealt with, and I have dealt with some shady ones before... The idea they are a B+ is a total ******* joke.
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                  • Peregrine Stoop
                    SBR Wise Guy
                    • 10-23-09
                    • 869

                    #10
                    not in-game... roughly an hour ago

                    thremp should be especially pissed as the line was -195. The book moved it to -220. They were taking action on a line they just moved. It's bullshit to cancel his bet.
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                    • RonPaul2008
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-08-07
                      • 6741

                      #11
                      Wow. I guess the fact that they have me on delay means they have no need to cancel any plays. LOL
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                      • RonPaul2008
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-08-07
                        • 6741

                        #12
                        +2.5 -195 actually could be argued is a 'bad' line now that I look at the market

                        +2.5 -220 maybe not so much
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                        • KGambler
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-09-09
                          • 2404

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                          +2.5 -195 actually could be argued is a 'bad' line now that I look at the market

                          +2.5 -220 maybe not so much
                          The market has probably moved since he placed the bet, but I am not sure.
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                          • big joe 1212
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 06-01-08
                            • 19380

                            #14
                            I wonder if they cancelled anyones bet that bet the other way on this?

                            I doubt anyone would be stupid enough to bet the other side with that line!
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                            • Peregrine Stoop
                              SBR Wise Guy
                              • 10-23-09
                              • 869

                              #15
                              Originally posted by RonPaul2008
                              +2.5 -195 actually could be argued is a 'bad' line now that I look at the market +2.5 -220 maybe not so much
                              I'd say no way on the -220.
                              The book thought they screwed up at -195. They adjusted their line to -220. They took more action at -220. They shouldn't be able to void the -220 that they adjusted to after having a chance to re-evaluate their initial line.
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                              • moonbeam
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-02-07
                                • 1496

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Thremp
                                I bet the Giants +2.5 -220. They void it. Cite "wrong line".

                                gmafb

                                What a bunch of childish thieves. Can't believe people play there.
                                This is 5Dimes style

                                My experience with Phoenix is they limited you to death and then they need month to pay you. But they never void a bet for me, not even at "bad lines"
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                                • HedgeHog
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 09-11-07
                                  • 10128

                                  #17
                                  Is it really "theft" if the bet is cancelled long before game time? The original line of -195 was way off and action moved the line. Then more action comes in and BP realizes their mistake--voiding all bets. I'm not defending BP's actions, but it was borderline. An A Book probably lets the bet stand. JMO.
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                                  • Thremp
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-23-07
                                    • 2067

                                    #18
                                    How is it not theft?

                                    They're freerolling me. If you think theft of equity isn't actual theft, lol.
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                                    • HedgeHog
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 09-11-07
                                      • 10128

                                      #19
                                      It could also be argued you took a shot with an obvious bad line.
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                                      • Thremp
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 07-23-07
                                        • 2067

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                        It could also be argued you took a shot with an obvious bad line.
                                        What is an obvious bad line?

                                        Aren't all lines I bet obviously bad? Why would I place a -EV bet?
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                                        • HedgeHog
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-11-07
                                          • 10128

                                          #21
                                          Just stating the Book's side; I don't necessarily agree with it. I'm a +Ev bettor myself, but I can live with a Book killing a questionable bet long before it starts--and notifying me as such.
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                                          • big joe 1212
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 06-01-08
                                            • 19380

                                            #22
                                            This is why I'm wondering if they did cancel both sides of the bad line? This is of course if anyone was dumb enough to play the other side!
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                                            • Thremp
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-23-07
                                              • 2067

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                              Just stating the Book's side; I don't necessarily agree with it. I'm a +Ev bettor myself, but I can live with a Book killing a questionable bet long before it starts--and notifying me as such.
                                              Frerolling players. Standard scam shop.

                                              Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                              This is why I'm wondering if they did cancel both sides of the bad line? This is of course if anyone was dumb enough to play the other side!
                                              The book's side? So you mean you're spouting nonsense?
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                                              • Dark Horse
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-14-05
                                                • 13764

                                                #24
                                                Not much here, but a pissed off scalper.
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                                                • jgilmartin
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-31-09
                                                  • 1119

                                                  #25
                                                  It's bullsh*t. There are examples of obvious bad lines. If it were Giants -2.5 +295...that would be a legitimate cancellation, IMO. This one is stealing.
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                                                  • HedgeHog
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-11-07
                                                    • 10128

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Thremp
                                                    Frerolling players. Standard scam shop.



                                                    The book's side? So you mean you're spouting nonsense?
                                                    The Book's side is "nonsense"? I agree you had a +Ev bet cancelled which is unfortunate, but you took a shot in their opinion. From my unbiased POV this is very close, but at least you were notified well in advance. In all, I think they are well w/i their rights to kill the bet.
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                                                    • big joe 1212
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 06-01-08
                                                      • 19380

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by Thremp
                                                      Frerolling players. Standard scam shop.



                                                      The book's side? So you mean you're spouting nonsense?



                                                      No! I was wondering if the book only canceled one side and not the other?
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                                                      • Thremp
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-23-07
                                                        • 2067

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by big joe 1212
                                                        [/b]

                                                        No! I was wondering if the book only canceled one side and not the other?

                                                        My edit fukked my repsonses. Sorry! Swapped the two responses. BP was freerolling players with this shit. SBR don't give a fuk. SBR John too busy getting $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ or pesos.
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                                                        • moonbeam
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 03-02-07
                                                          • 1496

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Thremp
                                                          My edit fukked my repsonses. Sorry! Swapped the two responses. BP was freerolling players with this shit. SBR don't give a fuk. SBR John too busy getting $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ or pesos.
                                                          Is this really the first time you are Fugged Thremp?

                                                          If so: Congratulations
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                                                          • bubba
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-29-05
                                                            • 2432

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                            The Book's side is "nonsense"? I agree you had a +Ev bet cancelled which is unfortunate, but you took a shot in their opinion. From my unbiased POV this is very close, but at least you were notified well in advance. In all, I think they are well w/i their rights to kill the bet.

                                                            this is not an "obvious bad line". at least not to me. after researching and thinking i may think it shoud be closer to -300 but a book should not be cancelling this even if its a week before the event. granted its not as bad as cancelling right before gametime (or during or after game) but still should be action imo.
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                                                            • HedgeHog
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 09-11-07
                                                              • 10128

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by bubba
                                                              this is not an "obvious bad line". at least not to me. after researching and thinking i may think it shoud be closer to -300 but a book should not be cancelling this even if its a week before the event. granted its not as bad as cancelling right before gametime (or during or after game) but still should be action imo.
                                                              Agree that a top Book would let it go, but we're talking about BetPhoenix--an average Book. For the OP to call this theft however, is a bit dramatic.
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                                                              • Thremp
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-23-07
                                                                • 2067

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by HedgeHog
                                                                Agree that a top Book would let it go, but we're talking about BetPhoenix--an average Book. For the OP to call this theft however, is a bit dramatic.
                                                                What is someone taking money out of your pocket?

                                                                Borrowing?
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                                                                • HedgeHog
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 09-11-07
                                                                  • 10128

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Theft is Cascade taking everyone's balance. What happened to you was a minor inconvenience.
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                                                                  • Thremp
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-23-07
                                                                    • 2067

                                                                    #34
                                                                    rofl. Sweet logic.
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                                                                    • HedgeHog
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 09-11-07
                                                                      • 10128

                                                                      #35
                                                                      If you feel that strongly, close your account with BP. You'll be paid w/i a month or so.
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