SBR Lightning Poker 2019

[SBR Drew]

LOL The "wild-ass 50 50 gambling" certainly didn't work for me tonight when I felt like I may as well start doing it.

I either got last place or close to it!

Not only do I NOT play poker to "gamble" and see how many coin flips I can win, because I rarely win them,

but I don't think I am that good at figuring out when I should or shouldn't do it either!

Coin flips equate to a 50-50 chance. You should not RARELY win these.

[RudyRuetigger]

joecool is the fukkin worst end game player ive ever seen

guy does not understand equity

[blankoblanco]

Coin flips equate to a 50-50 chance. You should not RARELY win these.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_retention

[pabonaparte]

joecool is the fukkin worst end game player ive ever seen

guy does not understand equity

I thought he folded too frequently at last event's final table.

Wait why are we telling him him about this!

[eaglesfan371]

Damn

Forgot to play the first fukkin day

Lol same. We lose.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Blanco’s all in button deff broke. Prob did it 75% of hands

[blankoblanco]

Philly, I legit had a bunch of pocket pairs in the SB vs you. I think I even gave you a walk with a decent hand at one point just because I felt bad shoving on your blind so many times

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Philly, I legit had a bunch of pocket pairs in the SB vs you. I think I even gave you a walk with a decent hand at one point just because I felt bad shoving on your blind so many times

I thought you might have started going easy on me

its all good. You had 5x the chips I had. Was happy with 3rd

[JoeCool20]

Coin flips equate to a 50-50 chance. You should not RARELY win these.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_retention

LOL I should have said It SEEMS like I rarely win them!


The main point is that I try to AVOID only having a 50 50 shot in poker!


I try to get all in with a LOT better shot than just 50 50 coin flips!


If I want to gamble on 50 50 coin flips, then I'll go bet red or black on roulette or make a sports gamble!



I don't play poker to "gamble" on 50 50 coin flips!

[JoeCool20]

joecool is the fukkin worst end game player ive ever seen

guy does not understand equity

LOL Congratulations on the dumbest post ever posted!

You are making that idiotic statement when you don't even know what my hole cards are!

AND I just finished FOURTH in the last money game and won $200! And you didn't even make the top 30 people to qualify for the money tournament! So according to your OWN dumb ass post If I'm the "worst end game player" and I "don't understand equity" then that makes you AT LEAST 30 times WORSE than ME at those 2 things!!! LOL

According to your OWN dumb-ass statement, that means You are the WORST poker player from start, middle, AND the end game! LOL Don't make a fool of yourself like that when ALL you have to do is just NOT post stupid shit!

And the only reason I got fourth was because somebody cracked my AA in the hole by donking a last card straight!
I played the kind of poker that you have NO IDEA how to play and had myself in 4th place with AA in the hole and a caller of my all in bet! And the goofball had called my all in with 99 and donked a board of 6 5 8 Q 7 to crack my AA!
Or I might have won the whole damn thing!

And besides that idiocy, you are basing your dumb ass statement on these 30 person "quick tourneys" that always end up being all in shoves and who wins the 50 50 coin flips! Shoving all in because you have 2 high cards in the hole and then "hoping" you win the 50 50 coin flip is NOT poker dude! It is freakin "gambling" on 50 50 coin flips!

How the fuk could you be so stupid as to say somebody is "good" or "bad" at 50 50 coin flips at the end of a 30 person "quick tourney"? LOL

Try not to make yourself look so foolish ever again! See if you can go back and erase that!

Or keep on being a moron! Who cares! The idiocy of your statement is incredible!

[RudyRuetigger]

LOL Congratulations on the dumbest post ever posted!

You are making that idiotic statement when you don't even know what my hole cards are!

AND I just finished FOURTH in the last money game and won $200! And you didn't even make the top 30 people to qualify for the money tournament! So according to your OWN dumb ass post If I'm the "worst end game player" and I "don't understand equity" then that makes you AT LEAST 30 times WORSE than ME at those 2 things!!! LOL

According to your OWN dumb-ass statement, that means You are the WORST poker player from start, middle, AND the end game! LOL Don't make a fool of yourself like that when ALL you have to do is just NOT post stupid shit!

And the only reason I got fourth was because somebody cracked my AA in the hole by donking a last card straight!
I played the kind of poker that you have NO IDEA how to play and had myself in 4th place with AA in the hole and a caller of my all in bet! And the goofball had called my all in with 99 and donked a board of 6 5 8 Q 7 to crack my AA!
Or I might have won the whole damn thing!

And besides that idiocy, you are basing your dumb ass statement on these 30 person "quick tourneys" that always end up being all in shoves and who wins the 50 50 coin flips! Shoving all in because you have 2 high cards in the hole and then "hoping" you win the 50 50 coin flip is NOT poker dude! It is freakin "gambling" on 50 50 coin flips!

How the fuk could you be so stupid as to say somebody is "good" or "bad" at 50 50 coin flips at the end of a 30 person "quick tourney"? LOL

Try not to make yourself look so foolish ever again! See if you can go back and erase that!

Or keep on being a moron! Who cares! The idiocy of your statement is incredible!

nothing to do with equity bro

[RonPaul2008]

Forgot to play this yesterday. Can't miss to many of these and expect to make it to the final.

[leovegas]

Played one today. I like the speedy format.

[blankoblanco]

Drew, although I like the idea of the 6max format one issue with it imo is that the software doesn't balance the tables very well. Like why is there a 4-handed table for a prolonged period of time with 21 players left? 6, 5, 5, and 5 is better

[JoeCool20]

nothing to do with equity bro

LOL Whatever I reply, you will just say that's not what you meant! (Once again try not to make yourself look so foolish!)

In the meantime, your whole original post has "nothing to do" with ANYTHING that makes any sense!


ESPECIALLY when you are basing your statement on 30 person "quick tourneys" instead of poker!


Because #1 You are basing it on 30 person "quick tourneys" and #2 You have no idea HOW I am playing (equity or otherwise) because you don't know what my hole cards are/were!

Are you saying that if/when I have a big stack of chips that I don't know how to use "Equity" by going all in every time I have an Ace or 2 face cards and trying to steal the blinds? Or making a big raise with NOTHING after the flop so I can once again try to "steal" the pot? LOL A blind mouse with no brain can do that! Dude, I FEAST on people who try that dumb-ass amateur shit! What do you say now? That's now how you meant "equity"? LOL


If you want to elaborate on how you are meaning the word "equity" then we can continue!


Otherwise, whatever I say about it, you will just say you didn't mean it that way! LOL

[RudyRuetigger]

ive seen you fold with 2k chips in the big blind with 200 left on your stack

then bitch you had 8 high

[JoeCool20]

LOL and then tonight I get down to the final 12 people and I get all in with AK against an 88.

So WHAT DID I JUST SAY last night about these coin flips?! If I have 88 and somebody has AK then they donk an A or K on me and I lose! But If I have the AK and they have 88, then I seem to never donk an ace or a king! LOL So what happens? OF COURSE I didn't hit an A or K!
In fact, the flop had ANOTHER 8 in it for the guy!! LOL

But hey, at least with this new format I only wasted 45 minutes instead of an hour and a half before it started coming down to that dumb shit!

[JoeCool20]

ive seen you fold with 2k chips in the big blind with 200 left on your stack

then bitch you had 8 high

LOL I hate "Assuming" things, but I "Assume" you are talking to me! And once again you must elaborate or you look foolish!



If I was the one that already had $2000 in there and only had $200 left, then you're an idiot to think I (or anybody else) wouldn't go ahead and put $200 more in! (Even with the worst hand possible 7 2 offsuit!)

Once again don't make foolish comments when all you have to do is NOT make foolish comments!

[blankoblanco]

Gotta vouch for Joe this time around, based on hands we have played against each other he has in fact won 0% of coin flips

[JoeCool20]

Gotta vouch for Joe this time around, based on hands we have played against each other he has in fact won 0% of coin flips

LOL thanks Blanko. It makes my WHOLE point about the way I play!


I don't play poker to "hope" I win a bunch of 50 50 shots! I'd play roulette instead and bet $50 on RED!

But that it what this new style is with 1000 chips!! So I have to do it now!

As you can see, whichever side of the coin I am on, it always SEEMS to never work out for me!

So hell, there is no wonder I don't play that way!! LOL But anyway! You are killing it tonight!

You took my chips with your 88 against my AK coin flip and you have ridden it to a HUGE chip lead!

You should win first! Do you let off the gas and wait for monsters?

Or do you start betting big amounts and try to bully the whole table with your equity?

[JoeCool20]

LOL thanks Blanko. It makes my WHOLE point about the way I play!


I don't play poker to "hope" I win a bunch of 50 50 shots! I'd play roulette instead and bet $50 on RED!

But that it what this new style is with 1000 chips!! So I have to do it now!

As you can see, whichever side of the coin I am on, it always SEEMS to never work out for me!

So hell, there is no wonder I don't play that way!! LOL But anyway! You are killing it tonight!

You took my chips with your 88 against my AK coin flip and you have ridden it to a HUGE chip lead!

You should win first! Do you let off the gas and wait for monsters?

Or do you start betting big amounts and try to bully the whole table with your equity?

OH yeah, forget it, with this new format, just because you have a big stack near the end with 10 or less people left, it doesn't mean you can just sit back and wait for monsters! NOR can you try to bully the table!


Because once it gets down to the final 6 table (or even before) then it become a damn "shove fest!"

There is no more skill! It's just whether or not you have 2 high cards in your hand! If you do, then you go all in!

[Auto Donk]

OH yeah, forget it, with this new format, just because you have a big stack near the end with 10 or less people left, it doesn't mean you can just sit back and wait for monsters! NOR can you try to bully the table!


Because once it gets down to the final 6 table (or even before) then it become a damn "shove fest!"

There is no more skill! It's just whether or not you have 2 high cards in your hand! If you do, then you go all in!

disagree with a lot of this, particularly the "shove fest" comment, as the final table I took down was hardly a shove fest. I recall pulling off a masterful check raise to take over a 1/4 of my opponents chips a few hands before the glorious end; it took a lot of skill to maneuver through that final thirty minutes of the trny (all I played, as I'd forgotten I'd signed up for the 2 pm and came in 30-35 mins late with only 400 chips left)....

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Drew is it possible to fix the table situation where you have a table of 6, 5 and 4? went on for over 5 minutes today. Just brutal when you're short stacked

[SBR Drew]

Drew is it possible to fix the table situation where you have a table of 6, 5 and 4? went on for over 5 minutes today. Just brutal when you're short stacked

Unfortunately we cant do anything about that. But is the masses are getting restless we can make adjustments after this event.

[USCPHILLYGUY]

Unfortunately we cant do anything about that. But is the masses are getting restless we can make adjustments after this event.

Not a problem Drew. Thanks for the quick response.

[SBR Drew]

[ArunSh]

disagree with a lot of this, particularly the "shove fest" comment, as the final table I took down was hardly a shove fest. I recall pulling off a masterful check raise to take over a 1/4 of my opponents chips a few hands before the glorious end; it took a lot of skill to maneuver through that final thirty minutes of the trny (all I played, as I'd forgotten I'd signed up for the 2 pm and came in 30-35 mins late with only 400 chips left)....

Yes, I tend to agree with this based on the last week and a half's experience with this new format.

It's kind of counter-intuitive that having a smaller starting stack with the same blind levels that there would end up actually being more play at the end, but that's how it seems to be turning out. Having a lower number of chips along with it being six max forces people into action much earlier than usual, and we end up sailing down to the final six much sooner than we used to. As a result, despite the lower number of chips in play, the blinds have always been way lower when we reach the final six then they used to, and there ends up being more play there as a result. In my experience with the two I've made + a few others I've seen, it's often been 10-30 BB stacks once you reach the final six. Still obviously not super deep stacks and short term luck will still play a huge factor, but compared to what we generally had when six people were left in old structure (pretty much 100% fold/shove preflop), there is a good deal more room to maneuver.

The obvious trade off for this is that players are required to gamble way sooner thereby making the early portion of the tourney much more luck based than the old structure. But I tend to think that's a generally positive trade-off. After all the difference between the payouts for 1st and 6th are quite big (very big difference in terms of how it affects your chances for qualifying), seems like having more play there is a good thing while of course early on getting say 30th vs 20th makes no difference at all!

Add to that that those who don't manage to have luck on their side early on will on average be eliminated far sooner than they did in the old structure, thereby saving a good amount of time (and of course the tournaments in general are faster than the old structure).

Still early to say definitively, but so far I am liking the changes to the format.

[leovegas]

I also noticed tables aren't always balanced correctly.

If two players go out on one hand and 16 players are still in at that point, tables will often stay at 6-6-4 until there are only 12 players remaining.

I don't think it's a problem though. I like the way it is, different from 'normal poker'. The idea here is to play shorthanded.

[RudyRuetigger]

how long are these tourneys taking?

[pavyracer]

If you don't shove in you usually get donked on the river by the guy with the worst preflop hand.

[leovegas]

how long are these tourneys taking?

65-70 minutes

[RudyRuetigger]

65-70 minutes

thanks bro

longer than i expected

[pavyracer]

If they start with 50/100 blinds it could get faster around 45 min.

[RudyRuetigger]

if you have to wait for a 5minute break and still dont cash, that tourney is TOO LONG

[JoeCool20]

disagree with a lot of this, particularly the "shove fest" comment, as the final table I took down was hardly a shove fest. I recall pulling off a masterful check raise to take over a 1/4 of my opponents chips a few hands before the glorious end; it took a lot of skill to maneuver through that final thirty minutes of the trny (all I played, as I'd forgotten I'd signed up for the 2 pm and came in 30-35 mins late with only 400 chips left)....

Yes, I tend to agree with this based on the last week and a half's experience with this new format.

It's kind of counter-intuitive that having a smaller starting stack with the same blind levels that there would end up actually being more play at the end, but that's how it seems to be turning out. Having a lower number of chips along with it being six max forces people into action much earlier than usual, and we end up sailing down to the final six much sooner than we used to. As a result, despite the lower number of chips in play, the blinds have always been way lower when we reach the final six then they used to, and there ends up being more play there as a result. In my experience with the two I've made + a few others I've seen, it's often been 10-30 BB stacks once you reach the final six. Still obviously not super deep stacks and short term luck will still play a huge factor, but compared to what we generally had when six people were left in old structure (pretty much 100% fold/shove preflop), there is a good deal more room to maneuver.

The obvious trade off for this is that players are required to gamble way sooner thereby making the early portion of the tourney much more luck based than the old structure. But I tend to think that's a generally positive trade-off. After all the difference between the payouts for 1st and 6th are quite big (very big difference in terms of how it affects your chances for qualifying), seems like having more play there is a good thing while of course early on getting say 30th vs 20th makes no difference at all!

Add to that that those who don't manage to have luck on their side early on will on average be eliminated far sooner than they did in the old structure, thereby saving a good amount of time (and of course the tournaments in general are faster than the old structure).

Still early to say definitively, but so far I am liking the changes to the format.

LOL OK should I say that people don't go all in EVERY SINGLE hand when there is only 6 people left?

OK then that's what happens over 90% of the time!

The one's that I have watched were all in shove fests for the last 25-30 minutes on EVERY hand!

It was either somebody called the all in or everybody folded to the all in bet.

No board cards, or even a flop was ever seen unless somebody called an all in.