Advanced System Strategies NFL/CFB

**chinoloco** · 10-21-12, 11:14 AM

Thanks Degenregen. You are doing a great job for the under system.

**Dfjay9** · 10-21-12, 01:07 PM

@Degen - Do you have an overall record on that under system?

**ShivaBowl** · 10-21-12, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Tommygunn

The one day I decide to start playing totals? Sorry everyone for dragging you into my cold streak.

I went 5-0 yesterday with pass if -15 what are These questionable plays?
Overs almost made it but came short yesterday but the week has been that bad what is all this talk. What am I missing it was a short week a lot of strange games what can do shit happens

**ShivaBowl** · 10-21-12, 06:36 PM

xxx

**ShivaBowl** · 10-21-12, 06:43 PM

Originally posted by Pete0

There seems to be a problem with the new iOS update for Apple products when using SBRforum.

I would suggest "Chrome" or "Atomic Browser" - I personally use atomic browser. Good luck

I have pretty much given up entirely posting on SBR with my iPhone is just not worth it anymore so if you guys don't hear from me you know why is really nothing I can do about it I'm not at a computer all day I should've have never updated my phone it was a big mistake and I knew it what is going to be should've never did it
But thanks for the advice
Pete0

**ShivaBowl** · 10-21-12, 06:45 PM

Originally posted by Dfjay9

@Degen - Do you have an overall record on that under system?

This week was his first post.
Also don't forget to name the system after its father thanks

**ShivaBowl** · 10-21-12, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by Romanov

Shiva, thanks for the plays, but are your overs still as strong as their normal 2.5 unit counterparts? I see you've decreased them to 1.5 units. Is that because you are adding 1 unit plays on unders? Have you backtested the under plays? JW, i know it is saturday morning and we are all busy but if you get a chance...

Hey buddy no I just wasn't feeling that confident something was strange with yesterday's's games And as you can see the only thing that really worked well yesterday for us were the under plays.

But next time I'll let you know overall not a bad week we still made money Saturday.

Now we need the over tonight so I can have another winning NFL week.
I think I've had only two losing NFL weekends in the last two years that were all of maybe two hundred dollars that's it.
bol
Sorry the last three years that's right to losing Sundays in the last three years

**Degenregen** · 10-21-12, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by Dfjay9

@Degen - Do you have an overall record on that under system?

Originally posted by ShivaBowl

This week was his first post.
Also don't forget to name the system after its father thanks

I'm just posting the plays for the SHIVA filter since the inventor of the filter is low on time.

I have no idea about the overall record of the SHIVA filter but since I learned it from Shiva I have faith in it.

**ShivaBowl** · 10-21-12, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Degenregen

I'm just posting the plays for the SHIVA filter since the inventor of the filter is low on time.

I have no idea about the overall record of the SHIVA filter but since I learned it from Shiva I have faith in it.

Thanks Degen, These plays saved our week I'm happy we got the up and running.
They did extremely well last year when I have the time I will look up the record.
Top five posts of all time keep it in mind please.

Originally posted by Aussiecapper101;

There were no over plays in NFL this week so I was thinking of just blindly taking all the unders! Wish I did I got the record as 9-3

Wow

**ShivaBowl** · 10-21-12, 09:02 PM

Great second-half line of + 100 23 1/2
Remember it you cannot bet the over on the second half line
If you you're original wager was on the over of 45
The only thing you can do now is bet the under in the second half to hedge the Original wager on the total of 45 You are now in a situation where you cannot lose and that's what it's all about .
Also You can hit both wagers beautiful. The original of 45 and the under of 23.5 that's if you want to hedge .
gl

**ShivaBowl** · 10-21-12, 10:11 PM

For the Life of me I can't understand all the hype over this Cincinnati Bengals team. Every time I watch them they look like total garbage. I don't see anything special about this team Or their quarterback and the coaches are horrible challenging on play like that'.
Pittsburgh will grind this game down to nothing I hope I'm wrong but Cincinnati sucks.

**ShivaBowl** · 10-21-12, 10:19 PM

For the Life of me I can't understand all the hype over this Cincinnati Bengals team. Every time I watch them they look like total garbage. I don't see anything special about this team Or their quarterback and the coaches are horrible challenging on play like that'.
Pittsburgh will grind this game down to nothing, fuk Cincinnati what a joke

**Degenregen** · 10-21-12, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by ShivaBowl

Great second-half line of + 100 23 1/2
Remember it you cannot bet the over on the second half line
If you you're original wager was on the over of 45
The only thing you can do now is bet the under in the second half to hedge the Original wager on the total of 45 You are now in a situation where you cannot lose and that's what it's all about .
Also You can hit both wagers beautiful. The original of 45 and the under of 23.5 that's if you want to hedge .
gl

I hedged, after that 3rd quarter, the over didn't look too hot, Cinci wasn't going anywhere and you knew Pitt was just going to just run it if it kept the lead. I got under 51 with Pitt ball on Cinci 16 or so right after the 3rd, though it went up to 54.5 after the TD. Pretty nice either way and the juice was only -110 on 5D live.

Thought I'd get buried today, FML I cannot pick nfl lines. I just noticed all my losses were inadvertently AI's picks too. This after getting buried last week going all AI, shit. Didn't go Cinci, they're garbage for betting, when I think about them all I remember is Dalton throwing picks.

**Tommygunn** · 10-22-12, 12:00 AM

Shiva , you were right, fade AI get rich $$$

**Degenregen** · 10-22-12, 01:59 AM

Anyone going to fade AI and take the Lions tomorrow? AI went 0-6 this week but AI thinks Chicago is it's strongest pick this week, lmao.

**BaratoForYou** · 10-22-12, 03:53 AM

i was gonna take the bears because of theyre record ATS and the lions have a terrible record ATS. but ill prob fade after this AI pick.

**ShivaBowl** · 10-22-12, 10:38 AM

That's the beauty of Sportrends.
They put their systems up for all to use, you can apply your own filters back test them do all kinds of things they don't care it's all free stuff.
They want you to explore all possibilities long and short.
The only thing they have ever asked of me was, keep it professional.

I don’t have time right now but what else is new.
I don’t think A/I went 0-6
CLE N/P
CIN N/P
TB Loss
BUF Loss
STL Loss
CAR Loss
CHC If < -11.5?

LionsFTW Did you get my 50 points from last week?
CFB record week 8 ?
Thanks

Aussiecapper101, No Over plays tonight.

**ShivaBowl** · 10-22-12, 10:44 AM

Originally posted by Degenregen

I hedged, after that 3rd quarter, the over didn't look too hot, Cinci wasn't going anywhere and you knew Pitt was just going to just run it if it kept the lead. I got under 51 with Pitt ball on Cinci 16 or so right after the 3rd, though it went up to 54.5 after the TD. Pretty nice either way and the juice was only -110 on 5D live.

Thought I'd get buried today, FML I cannot pick nfl lines. I just noticed all my losses were inadvertently AI's picks too. This after getting buried last week going all AI, shit. Didn't go Cinci, they're garbage for betting, when I think about them all I remember is Dalton throwing picks.

Good, but if you were on the Over 45
You had to wager on the Under 23.5 half time line.
You could have hit a middle and there was no way of losing your $ on the over 45.

**ShivaBowl** · 10-22-12, 11:09 AM

I never like wagering on Monday night.
Light play on DET & under.

Teaser
Detroit Lions +13½ (+6½)
Game Total UNDER 52½ (46½)
Stake 130 USD
Accumulated Odds –130
Potential Win (including stake amount) 230.10 USD

**Degenregen** · 10-22-12, 02:11 PM

I'll probably end up buying .5 and taking lions +7 tonight, their losses haven't been too bad this year.

**LionsFTW** · 10-22-12, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by ShivaBowl

That's the beauty of Sportrends.
They put their systems up for all to use, you can apply your own filters back test them do all kinds of things they don't care it's all free stuff.
They want you to explore all possibilities long and short.
The only thing they have ever asked of me was, keep it professional.

I don’t have time right now but what else is new.
I don’t think A/I went 0-6
CLE N/P
CIN N/P
TB Loss
BUF Loss
STL Loss
CAR Loss
CHC If < -11.5?

LionsFTW Did you get my 50 points from last week?
CFB record week 8 ?
Thanks

Aussiecapper101, No Over plays tonight.

I got Shiva, thanks!

I agree with you about ST too. Sam does a lot of work for free and gives you ample information to create your own filters.

**LionsFTW** · 10-22-12, 04:38 PM

CFB Week 8: 12-11 +.50 Unit 1.5 Unit Plays
Updated
A/I Over the total plays (3-4)
Never lay a 1/2-point, buy it down.
Plays based on early lines.

12:00 PM ET Virginia Tech @ Clemson 62	Loss
12:00 PM ET LSU @ Texas A&M 53	Loss
3:30 PM ET North Carolina State @ Maryland 45	Loss
7:00 PM ET Idaho @ Louisiana 72.5	WIN
7:00 PM ET Marshall @ Southern Miss 64.5	WIN
7:00 PM ET Kansas State @ West Virginia 71.5	Loss
8:00 PM ET Baylor @ Texas 80	WIN

A/I Under the total plays (3-1)
1 Unit
Always buy a ½ point.
Plays based on early lines.
THURS Oregon v Arizona State 69 1/2	WIN

3:30 PM ET South Carolina @ Florida 41	loss
3:30 PM ET Indiana @ Navy 61.5	WIN
3:30 PM ET Brigham Young @ Notre Dame 40.5	WIN


A/I Plays (6-6)
1/2 Unit
Never lay a 1/2-point on a favored.
Always buy a 1/2-point on a dog.
Never play the M/L on a dog, take the points.
Always play the M/L on a favored up to –150

TUES North Texas +4.5 (1 Unit play)	WIN
THURS Oregon -8 (1 Unit play)	WIN

12:00 PM ET LSU –3.5	WIN
3:30 PM ET Central Michigan +3	Loss
3:30 PM ET Navy -145	WIN
3:30 PM ET Florida –3.5	WIN
No Play If FLA < -3
3:30 PM ET Notre Dame –13	Loss
3:30 PM ET North Carolina State –3.5	Loss
3:30 PM ET South Florida +5.5	WIN
7:00 PM ET Southern Miss -4	Loss
8:00 PM ET Texas –8	Loss
10:00 PM ET Washington +7.5	Loss

As always, please double check

thanks!

**LionsFTW** · 10-22-12, 04:46 PM

PFB Week 7: 3-4 -3.25 Units Pro Football Artificial Intelligence
Team Projected Points for 10/21/2012
2.5 Unit

Cleveland Browns v Indianapolis Colts
Game Total OVER 46 -110	Loss

Green Bay Packers v St Louis Rams	WIN
Game Total OVER 44 -120

Dallas Cowboys v Carolina Panthers	Loss
Game Total OVER 44 -120

New Orleans Saints v Tampa Bay Buccaneers	WIN
Game Total OVER 49 -110

Pittsburgh Steelers v Cincinnati Bengals	Loss
Game Total OVER 45 -110

**Ditaln1** · 10-22-12, 05:13 PM

What formula parameters are you guys using? I'm just curious.

**ShivaBowl** · 10-22-12, 09:39 PM

Dying a slow death with Detroit plus 13 1/2
And there's absolutely no way out, they just can't be this bad?

**airattackers** · 10-23-12, 12:18 AM

how about them lions!! last second td to cover!!!

**ShivaBowl** · 10-23-12, 08:12 AM

Shiva Teaser went 1-0 yesterday

Detroit Lions +13½ (+6½) WIN
Game Total UNDER 52½ (46½) WIN
Potential Win +$100.00 WIN

Thank You LionsFTW, you have no idea,

how much this helps me.
Thanks Again.

Last Tuesday
North Texas +4.5 WIN

**chinoloco** · 10-23-12, 09:27 AM

Lions last second TD save my monday night.

**ShivaBowl** · 10-23-12, 12:57 PM

AI Play Week 9 CFB
1 Unit
Arkansas State v UL Lafayette
Arkansas State +3½ -110

**LionsFTW** · 10-23-12, 03:10 PM

Originally posted by ShivaBowl

Shiva Teaser went 1-0 yesterday

Detroit Lions +13½ (+6½) WIN
Game Total UNDER 52½ (46½) WIN
Potential Win +$100.00 WIN

Thank You LionsFTW, you have no idea,

how much this helps me.
Thanks Again.

Last Tuesday
North Texas +4.5 WIN

I have to contemplate changing my name to LionsFTCover because I'm not seeing to many wins this season.

Updated the list with the North Texas win and Oregon being a 1 unit play instead of a 1/2 unit for a CFB week profit of .5 units

cheers

**ShivaBowl** · 10-23-12, 04:43 PM

What I have noticed this year and last year is. Most people are using the over plays as a bail out no one is paying attention to second-half lines on any of the plays.

And if they are they're not posting.
I'll take the -3 unit loss for last Sunday but I bailed out on the second half line on Sunday night so I broke out even on the over plays.
Also, off the top of my head TCU Baylor two weeks ago I hit the over and I hit the over on the second half line.

I have done this countless times this year it's unbelievable.

I have Doubled my money on quite a few of plays this year.

If you're not making money here you're just not paying attention.

I am not trying to sound rude but for chrissake AI has last gone 13 - 1 The last two weeks. I'm at a disadvantage because our season starts three weeks late, but from this day forward all plays will be for one unit.

Also, I am not going to babysit the the lines on totals any longer.

Shop around get the best line possible I will be buying half-point to 1 point
On all over and under plays up two -150
good luck

**ShivaBowl** · 10-23-12, 05:37 PM

I know this much There are over 300 page views a day on this thread.
And I know for fact that there is a ton of smart cookies looking at what's going on in here so start posting .

You can't possibly tell me that I am the only one, that's picked up on the second half line pIays? I have a ton of good guys right now but there is a lot more of you out there so please start posting
thank you

**Degenregen** · 10-23-12, 06:42 PM

Not just half lines but live betting is what I've been watching. There were a lot of times last night where you could have picked up lions +10 or better, at half time even too. I'll try to post more often during the game but it gets hectic sometimes

.

**Degenregen** · 10-23-12, 07:27 PM

If you took Ark at +155, you could take Lafayette live @140, guarantee yourself .4 or .55 units if you bet 1 unit each. +3 Lafayette available too.

Edit Update: +14.5 now with steam on ark st and no ML available now lol.

**BaratoForYou** · 10-23-12, 10:22 PM

Shiva,
Are you talking about taking the over for second halfs on the games AI picks as overs?