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  • bubbls
    SBR Rookie
    • 12-16-09
    • 45

    #1786
    Utah/NBA
    Utah-over/NBA
    Boise State/NCAA Football
    Pittsburg/NCAA Hoops
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    • lakerboy
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-02-09
      • 94379

      #1787
      Guys lets talk about the Fiesta Bowl a little bit.


      The total varies from 53 -55

      I like under 53.5

      The side is set at -7 TCU.

      I like TCU

      what you guys think?
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      • dimon
        SBR MVP
        • 08-14-09
        • 1159

        #1788
        TCU should take care of business...will not touch Over/Under though...two explosives teams, and can score really fast
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        • SimonSayz
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 10-17-09
          • 859

          #1789
          1H Boise. 14-0 this year in first halves!
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          • lakerboy
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 04-02-09
            • 94379

            #1790
            I think Boise could get blown out here.
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            • Mini19
              SBR Sharp
              • 12-28-09
              • 294

              #1791
              Like tcu and under
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              • S.K.M.
                SBR MVP
                • 11-06-09
                • 1115

                #1792
                That low of a total begs to play the over which means it will go under probably. I do not think Boise will put up a lot of points. They haven't seen a defense like this ever even in their worst nightmares. I will most likely stay away from the total though. I do like TCU in this game but i do not want to lay more than 7. If i can get -7 I will most likely play TCU.
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                • dimon
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-14-09
                  • 1159

                  #1793
                  Same thing...some RLM and I am not sure why...and there is an offer of almost 40K on TCU ML on matchbook at -264...very big RED FLAG...I am not sure why, but I guess someone knows more than we, and beting big ob Boise State
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                  • S.K.M.
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-06-09
                    • 1115

                    #1794
                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                    I think Boise could get blown out here.
                    I agree but doesn't the line movement disagree? I live in the northwest and Im pretty familiar with Boise. I dont think they can beat this TCU team and i will be surprised if its close.
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                    • SimonSayz
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 10-17-09
                      • 859

                      #1795
                      I don't know how to interpret a line ranging from 53-55 but I would take the under. What are ur guys thoughts on the movement?
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                      • TGoat
                        Restricted User
                        • 08-07-09
                        • 612

                        #1796
                        I'm with you on the under. One thing I've noticed in these bowl (college) games is that when one team shuts down the other all or most of the points have to come from the dominant team--nebraska/az comes to mind--and the game goes under. florida/cincy didn't work out that way, even though florida dominated but that's the idea.
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                        • jdhender
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 11-18-09
                          • 866

                          #1797
                          TCU has beaten BYU, Utah, Clemson, SMU AND Air Force, and handily at that. I believe all of those teams have won their bowl games, no?

                          That's enough for me. Bodog also now showing the line 7.5, I saw 8 somewhere as well....

                          With that said, I think there is some resentment on the TCU side about this matchup for the second year in a row which could potentially give Boise some momentum in an underdog role. Only legitimate fear in my opinion. Really would have liked to have seen this team switch spots with someone like Cincinnati.

                          Line movement certainly spelling out under (% on over + downtrend on total). Not ready to make a play on that quite yet. Both teams are obviously capable of filling it up. Possible reversal of last years contest?
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                          • jdhender
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 11-18-09
                            • 866

                            #1798
                            think I just created more questions then answers .... lets keep this discussion going
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                            • lakerboy
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 04-02-09
                              • 94379

                              #1799
                              I like to play the total because a 7 point line is bs in my opinion and asking for trouble. The opinions of the sharp books offer the under as the wise play.
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                              • Mini19
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 12-28-09
                                • 294

                                #1800
                                Tease with tcu and under?
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                                • dimon
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-14-09
                                  • 1159

                                  #1801
                                  RLM and 40K offer on TCU ML...I really like TCU here, but someone betting really big opposite looks like.
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                                  • S.K.M.
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-06-09
                                    • 1115

                                    #1802
                                    Boise really does strive in the underdog role. They will embrace it theyll be fired up and ready to go. Combine this with the idea (which i do not buy at all) that TCU is disapointed to be here and you're getting some Boise backers. Maybe this is causing the line to fall?
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                                    • bustabook
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 11-14-09
                                      • 737

                                      #1803
                                      in my mind it resembles alot of other bowl games this year.. one team with loads of recent bowl game experience (and no respect), any another up-and-coming (or return-to-glory) team getting its first taste of a big-bowl atmostphere.

                                      so far this year the experienced teams have destroyed the younger, "hungrier" teams. florida, ohio state, nebraska, south florida, virginia tech were all (relative to their opponents) bowl-experienced teams..

                                      this game fits nicely into this theory, with boise state being the more experienced team.

                                      i'll take boise with the huge amount of points, even though i have ridden TCU this year like a subway train.

                                      GL
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                                      • jdhender
                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                        • 11-18-09
                                        • 866

                                        #1804
                                        I think TCU is 100% disappointed to be back in this match up, if I were on that team I know I absolutely would want the opportunity to take a shot at one of the big boys (not too take anything away from Boise) and I would be PISSED about getting set up with Boise for the second year in a row (no offense to Boise, I imagine they would have also preferred to get lined up against someone like Iowa).

                                        With that said, while it does put them in a potentially vulnerable position they can also use their displeasure as a source of motivation. I think they are clearly the more talented team, results, linesmakers demonstrate that. If they go out and hang 45, 50 points on Boise tonight that will certainly catch peoples attention for next season.

                                        One game really sticking out from their schedule this season. TCU -2.5 @ BYU, TCU 38 BYU 7
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                                        • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-17-09
                                          • 11939

                                          #1805
                                          Under 54 is the play on this game if anything. We all know about the explosive offense by both teams with two outstanding qbs. Boise St. being #1 scoring offense averaging 44.5 points a game. TCU is No. 1 in total defense and the only team in the country ranked sixth or better in the four key categories of total, run, pass and scoring defense. With the line moving back and forth to 9 to 7 in favor of TCU, Boise St. will still put points on the board with matching scores by the Horned Frogs. TCU's running game matches up against the #13 ranked total defense of Boise State. The Broncos rush defense is ranked #39 against the run allowing 126.8 yards a game. TCU will look to attack on the ground since the Broncos only allowing 172 yards through the air. Running the ball eats up a lot of the clock which could keep this game UNDER 54.
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                                          • Parligod
                                            SBR Sharp
                                            • 09-28-09
                                            • 403

                                            #1806
                                            Actually I like the over here huge. As a preempt I'm not going to say I'm pro at handicapping but the over is probably the biggest in college I've ever made. Both have very high powered offenses, and I don't see either team letting up until the clock stops. And if there's chance of blowout by either team then I expect even more in the passing game.
                                            GL in your picks tonight guys.
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                                            • lakerboy
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94379

                                              #1807
                                              Guys the under is so the play.
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                                              • tnnt
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 11-03-09
                                                • 216

                                                #1808
                                                more wise guys money is on the under so under should be the play as we speak.
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                                                • pattymayo
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 05-19-09
                                                  • 10221

                                                  #1809
                                                  I think TCU dominates all game
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                                                  • Scotlandspunter
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 12-23-09
                                                    • 196

                                                    #1810
                                                    I'm on the under here guys. I don't see TCU giving up many points and the Boise defence isn't the worst
                                                    i ever seen either. Seems a better bet than going with either side and i pretty good so far in the bowl games!! It's under 53.5 with my book and even if there's an early touchdown i would bet the under again
                                                    at around 58 probably.

                                                    It's not often i would an over total in a football game anyway and with the line movement you guys are
                                                    talking about i'm happy with the play!!
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                                                    • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-17-09
                                                      • 11939

                                                      #1811
                                                      Teaser: Under 60.5 & TCU pk

                                                      GL all.
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                                                      • lakerboy
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94379

                                                        #1812
                                                        It is always safer to bet unders so you dont ahve to hope for scores. HOw many times in this thread have you seen me play an over?
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                                                        • jdhender
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 11-18-09
                                                          • 866

                                                          #1813
                                                          This game in Arizona ?
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                                                          • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-17-09
                                                            • 11939

                                                            #1814
                                                            Exactly LB. Good point
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                                                            • pattymayo
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 05-19-09
                                                              • 10221

                                                              #1815
                                                              yeah University of Phoenix stadium
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                                                              • pattymayo
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-19-09
                                                                • 10221

                                                                #1816
                                                                Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                                Teaser: Under 60.5 & TCU pk

                                                                GL all.
                                                                I kinda like that. Might play it myself.. good luck
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                                                                • Scotlandspunter
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 12-23-09
                                                                  • 196

                                                                  #1817
                                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                  It is always safer to bet unders so you dont ahve to hope for scores. HOw many times in this thread have you seen me play an over?

                                                                  I very rarely back over in footbal games not for a long time anyway. Watched three games in a row waiting for any score in the fourth quarter and watched as teams ran down the clock punted back and forth, missed field goals then took a knee

                                                                  What was the game New Orleans against maybe New England about 6 weeks back when everyone out there said over?? Anyways there was no scoring in about the last 10-12 minutes and i was on the under in that one lol
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                                                                  • oda11
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 06-05-09
                                                                    • 3250

                                                                    #1818
                                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                    It is always safer to bet unders so you dont ahve to hope for scores. HOw many times in this thread have you seen me play an over?
                                                                    But now you gotta hope for them NOT to score

                                                                    Just messing with ya LB, good luck tonight.
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                                                                    • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-17-09
                                                                      • 11939

                                                                      #1819
                                                                      Good luck man.
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                                                                      • hush-hush
                                                                        Restricted User
                                                                        • 12-15-09
                                                                        • 622

                                                                        #1820
                                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                        I think Boise could get blown out here.
                                                                        Hopefully they will.
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