Utah/NBA
Utah-over/NBA
Boise State/NCAA Football
Pittsburg/NCAA Hoops
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#1787
Guys lets talk about the Fiesta Bowl a little bit.
The total varies from 53 -55
I like under 53.5
The side is set at -7 TCU.
I like TCU
what you guys think?
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dimon
SBR MVP
08-14-09
1159
#1788
TCU should take care of business...will not touch Over/Under though...two explosives teams, and can score really fast
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SimonSayz
SBR Wise Guy
10-17-09
859
#1789
1H Boise. 14-0 this year in first halves!
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#1790
I think Boise could get blown out here.
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Mini19
SBR Sharp
12-28-09
294
#1791
Like tcu and under
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S.K.M.
SBR MVP
11-06-09
1115
#1792
That low of a total begs to play the over which means it will go under probably. I do not think Boise will put up a lot of points. They haven't seen a defense like this ever even in their worst nightmares. I will most likely stay away from the total though. I do like TCU in this game but i do not want to lay more than 7. If i can get -7 I will most likely play TCU.
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dimon
SBR MVP
08-14-09
1159
#1793
Same thing...some RLM and I am not sure why...and there is an offer of almost 40K on TCU ML on matchbook at -264...very big RED FLAG...I am not sure why, but I guess someone knows more than we, and beting big ob Boise State
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S.K.M.
SBR MVP
11-06-09
1115
#1794
Originally posted by lakerboy
I think Boise could get blown out here.
I agree but doesn't the line movement disagree? I live in the northwest and Im pretty familiar with Boise. I dont think they can beat this TCU team and i will be surprised if its close.
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SimonSayz
SBR Wise Guy
10-17-09
859
#1795
I don't know how to interpret a line ranging from 53-55 but I would take the under. What are ur guys thoughts on the movement?
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TGoat
Restricted User
08-07-09
612
#1796
I'm with you on the under. One thing I've noticed in these bowl (college) games is that when one team shuts down the other all or most of the points have to come from the dominant team--nebraska/az comes to mind--and the game goes under. florida/cincy didn't work out that way, even though florida dominated but that's the idea.
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jdhender
SBR Wise Guy
11-18-09
866
#1797
TCU has beaten BYU, Utah, Clemson, SMU AND Air Force, and handily at that. I believe all of those teams have won their bowl games, no?
That's enough for me. Bodog also now showing the line 7.5, I saw 8 somewhere as well....
With that said, I think there is some resentment on the TCU side about this matchup for the second year in a row which could potentially give Boise some momentum in an underdog role. Only legitimate fear in my opinion. Really would have liked to have seen this team switch spots with someone like Cincinnati.
Line movement certainly spelling out under (% on over + downtrend on total). Not ready to make a play on that quite yet. Both teams are obviously capable of filling it up. Possible reversal of last years contest?
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jdhender
SBR Wise Guy
11-18-09
866
#1798
think I just created more questions then answers .... lets keep this discussion going
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#1799
I like to play the total because a 7 point line is bs in my opinion and asking for trouble. The opinions of the sharp books offer the under as the wise play.
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Mini19
SBR Sharp
12-28-09
294
#1800
Tease with tcu and under?
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dimon
SBR MVP
08-14-09
1159
#1801
RLM and 40K offer on TCU ML...I really like TCU here, but someone betting really big opposite looks like.
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S.K.M.
SBR MVP
11-06-09
1115
#1802
Boise really does strive in the underdog role. They will embrace it theyll be fired up and ready to go. Combine this with the idea (which i do not buy at all) that TCU is disapointed to be here and you're getting some Boise backers. Maybe this is causing the line to fall?
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bustabook
SBR Wise Guy
11-14-09
737
#1803
in my mind it resembles alot of other bowl games this year.. one team with loads of recent bowl game experience (and no respect), any another up-and-coming (or return-to-glory) team getting its first taste of a big-bowl atmostphere.
so far this year the experienced teams have destroyed the younger, "hungrier" teams. florida, ohio state, nebraska, south florida, virginia tech were all (relative to their opponents) bowl-experienced teams..
this game fits nicely into this theory, with boise state being the more experienced team.
i'll take boise with the huge amount of points, even though i have ridden TCU this year like a subway train.
GL
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jdhender
SBR Wise Guy
11-18-09
866
#1804
I think TCU is 100% disappointed to be back in this match up, if I were on that team I know I absolutely would want the opportunity to take a shot at one of the big boys (not too take anything away from Boise) and I would be PISSED about getting set up with Boise for the second year in a row (no offense to Boise, I imagine they would have also preferred to get lined up against someone like Iowa).
With that said, while it does put them in a potentially vulnerable position they can also use their displeasure as a source of motivation. I think they are clearly the more talented team, results, linesmakers demonstrate that. If they go out and hang 45, 50 points on Boise tonight that will certainly catch peoples attention for next season.
One game really sticking out from their schedule this season. TCU -2.5 @ BYU, TCU 38 BYU 7
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D3 Mighty Ducks
SBR Posting Legend
12-17-09
11939
#1805
Under 54 is the play on this game if anything. We all know about the explosive offense by both teams with two outstanding qbs. Boise St. being #1 scoring offense averaging 44.5 points a game. TCU is No. 1 in total defense and the only team in the country ranked sixth or better in the four key categories of total, run, pass and scoring defense. With the line moving back and forth to 9 to 7 in favor of TCU, Boise St. will still put points on the board with matching scores by the Horned Frogs. TCU's running game matches up against the #13 ranked total defense of Boise State. The Broncos rush defense is ranked #39 against the run allowing 126.8 yards a game. TCU will look to attack on the ground since the Broncos only allowing 172 yards through the air. Running the ball eats up a lot of the clock which could keep this game UNDER 54.
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Parligod
SBR Sharp
09-28-09
403
#1806
Actually I like the over here huge. As a preempt I'm not going to say I'm pro at handicapping but the over is probably the biggest in college I've ever made. Both have very high powered offenses, and I don't see either team letting up until the clock stops. And if there's chance of blowout by either team then I expect even more in the passing game.
GL in your picks tonight guys.
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#1807
Guys the under is so the play.
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tnnt
SBR High Roller
11-03-09
216
#1808
more wise guys money is on the under so under should be the play as we speak.
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pattymayo
SBR Posting Legend
05-19-09
10221
#1809
I think TCU dominates all game
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Scotlandspunter
SBR High Roller
12-23-09
196
#1810
I'm on the under here guys. I don't see TCU giving up many points and the Boise defence isn't the worst
i ever seen either. Seems a better bet than going with either side and i pretty good so far in the bowl games!! It's under 53.5 with my book and even if there's an early touchdown i would bet the under again
at around 58 probably.
It's not often i would an over total in a football game anyway and with the line movement you guys are
talking about i'm happy with the play!!
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D3 Mighty Ducks
SBR Posting Legend
12-17-09
11939
#1811
Teaser: Under 60.5 & TCU pk
GL all.
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lakerboy
SBR Aristocracy
04-02-09
94379
#1812
It is always safer to bet unders so you dont ahve to hope for scores. HOw many times in this thread have you seen me play an over?
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jdhender
SBR Wise Guy
11-18-09
866
#1813
This game in Arizona ?
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D3 Mighty Ducks
SBR Posting Legend
12-17-09
11939
#1814
Exactly LB. Good point
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pattymayo
SBR Posting Legend
05-19-09
10221
#1815
yeah University of Phoenix stadium
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pattymayo
SBR Posting Legend
05-19-09
10221
#1816
Originally posted by D3 Mighty Ducks
Teaser: Under 60.5 & TCU pk
GL all.
I kinda like that. Might play it myself.. good luck
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Scotlandspunter
SBR High Roller
12-23-09
196
#1817
Originally posted by lakerboy
It is always safer to bet unders so you dont ahve to hope for scores. HOw many times in this thread have you seen me play an over?
I very rarely back over in footbal games not for a long time anyway. Watched three games in a row waiting for any score in the fourth quarter and watched as teams ran down the clock punted back and forth, missed field goals then took a knee
What was the game New Orleans against maybe New England about 6 weeks back when everyone out there said over?? Anyways there was no scoring in about the last 10-12 minutes and i was on the under in that one lol
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oda11
SBR MVP
06-05-09
3250
#1818
Originally posted by lakerboy
It is always safer to bet unders so you dont ahve to hope for scores. HOw many times in this thread have you seen me play an over?