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  • JAnthony
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 11-25-13
    • 635

    #981
    H and 102<=tA(points)<=110 and 93<=oA(o: points)<=96 and total<=193 and playoffs=0
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    • dmitean
      SBR Sharp
      • 03-30-11
      • 364

      #982
      To be honest, expected to find Under tendency, so don't think I will follow, but here two good defensive teams playing each other in April:

      total<=195 and season>=2012 and WP >= 55 and o:WP >= 55 and month=4

      O/U:20-12-0 (10.38, 62.5%) avg total: 184.2

      Please note that this includes playoffs...

      If we exclude the playoffs, we get different picture:
      total<=195 and season>=2010 and WP >= 55 and o:WP >= 55 and month=4 and playoffs=0

      O/U:44-56-0 (-0.36, 44.0%) avg total: 186.4
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      • Wojo
        SBR MVP
        • 03-19-10
        • 1764

        #983
        Originally posted by figue
        any query for nba team who are fighting for one spot for playoffs ??
        I don't see how that can be done to any degree of accuracy. I use winning percentages and you could use the parameters of wins and losses to come somewhat close to teams who are probably in, or out of, the playoffs.
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        • JAnthony
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 11-25-13
          • 635

          #984
          tS(L, N=5)>=4 and op:LHF and op:margin<=-10 and rest>0 and o:rest>0 and A and total>=200
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          • JMon
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-11-09
            • 9800

            #985
            A and ats streak<=-6 and 60>=WP>=51 and o:WP>50
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            • JMon
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-11-09
              • 9800

              #986
              Originally posted by JAnthony
              Also there are two other trends which have been posted here earlier in favour of OKC, seems like it's a play tonight, though I have been in a slump these past 2 days backing teams supported by 2-3 strong trends.
              Yes, as with any other gambling method, sdql users go through the dreaded slump as well. I have not had the best of week either. The grind goes on
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              • Mako-SBR
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-15-13
                • 492

                #987
                Originally posted by JMon
                Yes, as with any other gambling method, sdql users go through the dreaded slump as well. I have not had the best of week either. The grind goes on
                Same, but it's more MLB that's killing me versus NBA, can't get a feel for baseball yet...
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                • dmitean
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 03-30-11
                  • 364

                  #988
                  I believe that there are times where trends apply more and times where they apply less - the problem is that it's very hard to know in advance when is this time...

                  I do believe that trends are much stronger in the first half of the season (especially in the beginning of it) then the end.
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                  • green7
                    SBR High Roller
                    • 10-21-10
                    • 190

                    #989
                    Though I am not a big fan of his, some of his reading material is interesting, I am talking of Dr. Bob.....on the topic of "must win" games, it is a definite go against when a team must win to get into the playoffs, etc. I would put a caveat on this and say that when an opponent has already clinched it's playoff position that I would look at playing a must win side. Great effort doesn't translate to results ATS-wise. Better to play relaxed than try too hard.
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                    • green7
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 10-21-10
                      • 190

                      #990
                      For future playoff reference

                      playoffs=1 and tA(points-ooints)>5 and HF and round

                      playoffs=1 and tA(points-ooints)>5 and AD and round

                      <oa(o:fgp) and="" hf="" round

                      playoffs=1 and tA(FGP-o:FGP)>oA(FGP-o:FGP) and HF and round

                      playoffs=1 and tA(FGP-o:FGP)>oA(FGP-o:FGP) and AD and round



                      Round two will be when lower seeded teams will cover as home favorites,...very likely the Clippers, the Rockets, the Nets and the Raptors, all of whom could win their round 2 series against a higher seed.


                      </oa(o:fgp)>
                      Last edited by green7; 04-07-14, 04:19 PM.
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                      • pip2
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 10-21-12
                        • 543

                        #991
                        OK, let me try again from another angle:

                        AF and line=-5 and op:rest=0 and season>2010

                        That yields an 11-4 win rate betting on the favorite. That's better than if you go through all the seasons, which yields more like a 58% win rate for the favorite. But anyway, my question would be, if that situation arose (team playing away, favored by 5 against another team playing the back end of B2B, would those results justify a bet? And if so would it be a tiny bet, a small bet, a medium bet, or what?
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                        • Wojo
                          SBR MVP
                          • 03-19-10
                          • 1764

                          #992
                          Originally posted by pip2
                          OK, let me try again from another angle:

                          AF and line=-5 and op:rest=0 and season>2010

                          That yields an 11-4 win rate betting on the favorite. That's better than if you go through all the seasons, which yields more like a 58% win rate for the favorite. But anyway, my question would be, if that situation arose (team playing away, favored by 5 against another team playing the back end of B2B, would those results justify a bet? And if so would it be a tiny bet, a small bet, a medium bet, or what?
                          Just my opinion, but your trend is too specific by just using "line=-5".
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                          • pip2
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 10-21-12
                            • 543

                            #993
                            Originally posted by Wojo
                            Just my opinion, but your trend is too specific by just using "line=-5".
                            OK. So if this situation actually came up (doesn't come up that often because as you say, it's pretty narrowly constructed), would it be worth any kind of bet?

                            I did try to widen it out a bit by querying any line between -3 and -7, but then the disparity between W's send L's started to even out...
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                            • Wojo
                              SBR MVP
                              • 03-19-10
                              • 1764

                              #994
                              Originally posted by pip2
                              OK. So if this situation actually came up (doesn't come up that often because as you say, it's pretty narrowly constructed), would it be worth any kind of bet?

                              I did try to widen it out a bit by querying any line between -3 and -7, but then the disparity between W's send L's started to even out...
                              Your final statement is why I would not be wagering on your original statement. I do use 3-point ranges on lines.

                              I also don't understand why you are using the parameter "opponent's previous rest" as a standalone qualifier.

                              I would not place a wager on that trend.
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                              • Mako-SBR
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 10-15-13
                                • 492

                                #995
                                Originally posted by pip2
                                OK, let me try again from another angle:

                                AF and line=-5 and op:rest=0 and season>2010

                                That yields an 11-4 win rate betting on the favorite. That's better than if you go through all the seasons, which yields more like a 58% win rate for the favorite. But anyway, my question would be, if that situation arose (team playing away, favored by 5 against another team playing the back end of B2B, would those results justify a bet? And if so would it be a tiny bet, a small bet, a medium bet, or what?
                                No, for the reasons Wojo mentioned.

                                Since we can't post links on the site, go Google "sportsinsights the dangers of overfitting your sports betting" and read the blog post that comes up that matches. Ignore the talk about their "Bet Labs" software, basically it's a newbie version of what SDQL provides for free...but definitely focus on the actual content of the post, the message of protecting yourself.

                                In fact everyone in the thread who hasn't been betting large sums of money using situational scenarios of the sort we talk about daily in this thread and the MLB thread should do the same to protect themselves from losses due to small sample size situations.

                                As we've talked about before, there are a variety of touts and tout services using SDQL to provide 'picks' to clients, and not one of them is above 52.4% lifetime in any sport where there are 200+ picks provided. Not a single one.

                                And the reason for that is due to the exact set of circumstance the SportsInsights article talks about, where small sample sizes and seemingly "bulletproof" scenarios mislead us, and can cause bettors to waste a lot of money, time, and effort chasing the noise instead of the actual signal.

                                Keep working though pip, only though constant experimentation and feedback can newer users get better to the point where they're seeing consistent 60%+ returns using very tight SDQL-based queries pointing to reliable situations.
                                Last edited by Mako-SBR; 04-08-14, 01:35 PM.
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                                • Tillos
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 03-28-14
                                  • 179

                                  #996
                                  Mako -
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                                  • pip2
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 10-21-12
                                    • 543

                                    #997
                                    Originally posted by Mako-SBR
                                    No, for the reasons Wojo mentioned.

                                    Since we can't post links on the site, go Google "sportsinsights the dangers of overfitting your sports betting" and read the blog post that comes up that matches. Ignore the talk about their "Bet Labs" software, basically it's a newbie version of what SDQL provides for free...but definitely focus on the actual content of the post, the message of protecting yourself.

                                    In fact everyone in the thread who hasn't been betting large sums of money using situational scenarios of the sort we talk about daily in this thread and the MLB thread should do the same to protect themselves from losses due to small sample size situations.

                                    As we've talked about before, there are a variety of touts and tout services using SDQL to provide 'picks' to clients, and not one of them is above 52.4% lifetime in any sport where there are 200+ picks provided. Not a single one.

                                    And the reason for that is due to the exact set of circumstance the SportsInsights article talks about, where small sample sizes and seemingly "bulletproof" scenarios mislead us, and can cause bettors to waste a lot of money, time, and effort chasing the noise instead of the actual signal.

                                    Keep working though pip, only though constant experimentation and feedback can newer users get better to the point where they're seeing consistent 60%+ returns using very tight SDQL-based queries pointing to reliable situations.
                                    Thanks very much Mako, and Wojo as well...
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                                    • JMon
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-11-09
                                      • 9800

                                      #998
                                      Some good situations that have already been posted going tonight ! gl fellas
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                                      • cofaga
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 01-30-14
                                        • 32

                                        #999
                                        WP>=65 and op:WP<=40 and month=4 and rest>0 and o:rest>0 and op: points<100 and opp: points<100
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                                        • JMon
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-11-09
                                          • 9800

                                          #1000
                                          Originally posted by cofaga
                                          WP>=65 and op:WP<=40 and month=4 and rest>0 and mo:rest>0 and op: points<100 and opp: points<100
                                          nice. We have some situations on these two. Very solid from 2000 with a nice Su right record. Wonder why it was so of in1996 and '97
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                                          • figue
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-23-10
                                            • 2524

                                            #1001
                                            208 >= total >= 201 and tS(ou margin, N=5) >= 30 and 60 >= WP >= 51 and 2009 <= season and site = home

                                            pistons
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                                            • figue
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-23-10
                                              • 2524

                                              #1002
                                              Originally posted by JMon
                                              Some good situations that have already been posted going tonight ! gl fellas
                                              208 >= total >= 201 and tS(ou margin, N=5) >= 30 and 60 >= WP >= 51 and 2009 <= season and site = home

                                              pistons
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                                              • green7
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 10-21-10
                                                • 190

                                                #1003
                                                month=4 and tA(W)>.6 and oA(W)>.6 and HF and o:rest=0 and playoffs=0 and total>200 and rest>0


                                                Query favoring the Clippers.
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                                                • JMon
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 12-11-09
                                                  • 9800

                                                  #1004
                                                  Hope everyone went 5-0 last night. Everything going last night has been posted in here.
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                                                  • superbowl3056
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 03-16-10
                                                    • 301

                                                    #1005
                                                    Originally posted by green7
                                                    month=4 and tA(W)>.6 and oA(W)>.6 and HF and o:rest=0 and playoffs=0 and total>200 and rest>0


                                                    Query favoring the Clippers.
                                                    If its favoring the Clippers why aren't they showing up in the query?
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                                                    • 19th Hole
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 03-22-09
                                                      • 18937

                                                      #1006
                                                      Originally posted by JMon
                                                      Hope everyone went 5-0 last night. Everything going last night has been posted in here.
                                                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                                      Congrats and thanks for the warm wishes.
                                                      I certainly didn't see any queries, other than Figue's response, posted yesterday for Tuesday night.
                                                      Continued success to your clique.
                                                      Last edited by 19th Hole; 04-09-14, 01:30 PM.
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                                                      • Cougs
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 03-30-14
                                                        • 15

                                                        #1007
                                                        All the queries that were in play yesterday which resulted in 5-0 have been posted in this thread; you just have to go back, read all of them, and right them down so that you can perform daily searches.
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                                                        • Mako-SBR
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 10-15-13
                                                          • 492

                                                          #1008
                                                          Originally posted by Cougs
                                                          All the queries that were in play yesterday which resulted in 5-0 have been posted in this thread; you just have to go back, read all of them, and right them down so that you can perform daily searches.
                                                          4-0 for me, not sure which one of the queries I previously disqualified for whatever reason. Great night.

                                                          Never, in 10+ years of sports betting, have I had as many 4-0, 5-0, 6-1, etc days as I have since we created this thread.

                                                          Great great work all, and thanks as always!
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                                                          • evangelizelee
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 08-17-10
                                                            • 120

                                                            #1009
                                                            By todays queries. It seems like pacers, nets, clippers over is the play.
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                                                            • 19th Hole
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 03-22-09
                                                              • 18937

                                                              #1010
                                                              Originally posted by Cougs
                                                              All the queries that were in play yesterday which resulted in 5-0 have been posted in this thread; you just have to go back, read all of them, and right them down so that you can perform daily searches.
                                                              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

                                                              Thank you kindly for the explanation.
                                                              Much appreciated rather than you simply gloating over a 5-0.
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                                                              • JMon
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-11-09
                                                                • 9800

                                                                #1011
                                                                Originally posted by 19th Hole
                                                                ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                                                Congrats and thanks for the warm wishes.
                                                                I certainly didn't see any queries, other than Figue's response, posted yesterday for Tuesday night.
                                                                Continued success to your clique.
                                                                I am sensing a bit of animosity with your recent posts...perhaps it's just me. There is no clique here, not even close. Nothing but good vibe, just trying to learn a new methodology to capping. I have put my utmost effort in this thread (with my queries) alone to try and help those fend for themselves. Sdql is the bomb for sure, just takes the desire to learn it; it's not easy. Like I have said numerous times, I have been at this for over three years and still learning it. Perhaps my posts of 5-0 rubbed you the wrong way, it don't know, but like I said 'every singe one of them as been posted' in this learning, non posting thread (post 998)! As you can see many knew by the coin delivery and Mako's response, they were on the same games. We are all here to help, not spoon feed you. Perhaps you can make sense of the past posted situation with what I went 5-0 on yesterday, winning a K . Am I using them all tonight...no even close. That's the learning curves of what to play and not to play using sdql.

                                                                WON: 661 Pistons +7 (-110) risk 220.00 win 200.00 (NBA) Score: 102-95
                                                                04/08/14 17:38:56
                                                                $200.00
                                                                #29150400

                                                                WON: TOT UND 662 Hawks/Pistons under 210½ (-110) risk 220.00 win 200.00 (NBA) Score: 95-102
                                                                04/08/14 17:38:56
                                                                $200.00

                                                                WON: 655 Mavericks -7 (-110) risk 220.00 win 200.00 (NBA) Score: 95-83
                                                                04/08/14 17:38:56
                                                                $200.00
                                                                #29150400
                                                                WON: 657 Thunder -9 (-110) risk 220.00 win 200.00 (NBA) Score: 107-92
                                                                04/08/14 17:38:56
                                                                $200.00
                                                                #29150400
                                                                WON: 659 Rockets -9 (-110) risk 220.00 win 200.00 (NBA) Score: 145-130
                                                                04/08/14 17:38:56
                                                                $200.00
                                                                #29150400
                                                                Last edited by JMon; 04-09-14, 08:13 PM.
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                                                                • 19th Hole
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-22-09
                                                                  • 18937

                                                                  #1012
                                                                  Originally posted by JMon

                                                                  I am sensing a bit of animosity with your recent posts...perhaps it's just me. There is no clique here, not even close. Nothing but good vibe, just trying to learn a new methodology to capping. I have put my utmost effort in this thread (with my queries) alone to try and help those fend for themselves. Sdql is the bomb for sure, just takes the desire to learn it; it's not easy. Like I have said numerous times, I have been at this for over three years and still learning it. Perhaps my posts of 5-0 rubbed you the wrong way, it don't know, but like I said 'every singe one of them as been posted' in this learning, non posting thread (post 998)! As you can see many knew by the coin delivery and Mako's response, they were on the same games. We are all here to help, not spoon feed you. Perhaps you can make sense of the past posted situation with what I went 5-0 on yesterday, winning a K . Am I using them all tonight...no even close. That's the learning curves of what to play and not to play using sdql.

                                                                  WON: 661 Pistons +7 (-110) risk 220.00 win 200.00 (NBA) Score: 102-95
                                                                  04/08/14 17:38:56
                                                                  $200.00
                                                                  #29150400

                                                                  WON: TOT UND 662 Hawks/Pistons under 210½ (-110) risk 220.00 win 200.00 (NBA) Score: 95-102
                                                                  04/08/14 17:38:56
                                                                  $200.00

                                                                  WON: 655 Mavericks -7 (-110) risk 220.00 win 200.00 (NBA) Score: 95-83
                                                                  04/08/14 17:38:56
                                                                  $200.00
                                                                  #29150400
                                                                  WON: 657 Thunder -9 (-110) risk 220.00 win 200.00 (NBA) Score: 107-92
                                                                  04/08/14 17:38:56
                                                                  $200.00
                                                                  #29150400
                                                                  WON: 659 Rockets -9 (-110) risk 220.00 win 200.00 (NBA) Score: 145-130
                                                                  04/08/14 17:38:56
                                                                  $200.00
                                                                  #29150400
                                                                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                                                                  Jmon....
                                                                  Thanks for the clarification.
                                                                  This thread has been great about posting daily queries...especially
                                                                  your daily posts.

                                                                  I was lazy and didn't make a daily database and merely processed the daily posted
                                                                  queries from this thread at KillerSports.

                                                                  I am half way home...
                                                                  I now know the value of storage.

                                                                  Thank you for exposing me to SDQL.

                                                                  I wish the best to everyone.
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                                                                  • Cougs
                                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                                    • 03-30-14
                                                                    • 15

                                                                    #1013
                                                                    almost played the clippers/thunder U today based on a query...and then lo and behold, another query (with similar sample size) popped up with the over...stayed off the game, and glad i didn't bet the under (at least based on halftime score...)
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                                                                    • JMon
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 12-11-09
                                                                      • 9800

                                                                      #1014
                                                                      Originally posted by Cougs
                                                                      almost played the clippers/thunder U today based on a query...and then lo and behold, another query (with similar sample size) popped up with the over...stayed off the game, and glad i didn't bet the under (at least based on halftime score...)
                                                                      I had a lot of conflicting queries last night as well. I played OKC and Hou; obviously not a winning day.
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                                                                      • Mako-SBR
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 10-15-13
                                                                        • 492

                                                                        #1015
                                                                        Originally posted by JMon
                                                                        I had a lot of conflicting queries last night as well. I played OKC and Hou; obviously not a winning day.
                                                                        Same, but I also had PHX and CHI and missed salvaging the night with a 2-2 finish by a half point on the PHX game...
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