Horse Racing questions and answers

[batt33]

some updates STR on the younger horses including your fav!
[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Black Tie Optional Showcase Footage[/COLOR]Enjoy the accompanying video with clips of Black Tie Optional at last weekend's Ocala Showcase!

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[str]

Enjoying catching up on the blog! And speaking of SNC..

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/4bd276dd46634da2a6b4950789f76823_1740506622432/MP4/4bd276dd46634da2a6b4950789f76823_1740506622432.mp4

Enjoy this video update from trainer Dan Blacker as our recent Riyadh Dirt Sprint winner enjoyed some grazing time with Juan Landeros at Meydan. Dan is thrilled with how well he looks out of the race, and as you will hear, Straight No Chaser will receive a few much-deserved days off before returning to the track.

He looks GREAT Batt.

[batt33]

It will take years to iron out all the mistakes that HISA will need to work through but with that said, it is far and away the best thing that could ever happen to USA thoroughbred racing.

Too late for me but that’s just fine. Thank goodness they are getting things right.

It makes me incredibly happy to see.

I hope they make as big an example out of these participants as possible.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-rac...-pa-conspiracy

I 100% agree STR.....

[batt33]

Oh yeah, that carryover effect is real.

Horses know when they win. Some take it to another level.

If you look at how stoic some horses that win more than they lose prance around it’s like they are cocky. Lol.

Go back and look at Batts horse Straight No Chaser.
Correct me if I have them mixed up but wasn’t this horse antsy and washed out pre race last year. And somewhat agitated at times.
The horse I saw the other day was strutting around like a peacock and cool calm and collected.
He really does see the camera these days and he hams it up like he knows he’s a badass. I know I saw that in the videos last week before he strutted into the gate like he owned the joint and blew away the field without turning a hair.

Enjoying catching up on the blog! And speaking of SNC..

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/blog/video/4bd276dd46634da2a6b4950789f76823_1740506622432/MP4/4bd276dd46634da2a6b4950789f76823_1740506622432.mp4

Enjoy this video update from trainer Dan Blacker as our recent Riyadh Dirt Sprint winner enjoyed some grazing time with Juan Landeros at Meydan. Dan is thrilled with how well he looks out of the race, and as you will hear, Straight No Chaser will receive a few much-deserved days off before returning to the track.

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totally get the logic with that and makes perfect sense to me
..I think it would be more of an roi thing with winning a 3rd in a row .. horses who win 2 in a row aren't automatic underlays ..if they're stepping up in class and others (or another) are/is dropping I find the former often offer more value .. dropping in class is overbet imo which helps your angle from a betting perspective






not sure about SNC pre race and not surprised at your response regarding their mindset..you would think AM progeny would be especially good followup off a "drop win" candidates .. the natural competitive spirit in them would shine in that 2nd start and maybe above average chance to get the 3rd vs your average sire

I would agree with that. They try like heck in well beaten races. Have to think off a win and not placed in a real tough spot, they would run better than their last effort off the confidence and positive results of the last race.

[JBEX]

No question about it JBEX. It speaks to that seemingly crazy thing I said about sometimes it’s easier to win 3 in a row than it is 2 in a row.
I wonder if there is actually a stat on that? Too many variables probably to have merit but as crazy as it sounded, I still believe it in plenty of scenarios.

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totally get the logic with that and makes perfect sense to me
..I think it would be more of an roi thing with winning a 3rd in a row .. horses who win 2 in a row aren't automatic underlays ..if they're stepping up in class and others (or another) are/is dropping I find the former often offer more value .. dropping in class is overbet imo which helps your angle from a betting perspective

Oh yeah, that carryover effect is real.

Horses know when they win. Some take it to another level.

If you look at how stoic some horses that win more than they lose prance around it’s like they are cocky. Lol.

Go back and look at Batts horse Straight No Chaser.
Correct me if I have them mixed up but wasn’t this horse antsy and washed out pre race last year. And somewhat agitated at times.
The horse I saw the other day was strutting around like a peacock and cool calm and collected.
He really does see the camera these days and he hams it up like he knows he’s a badass. I know I saw that in the videos last week before he strutted into the gate like he owned the joint and blew away the field without turning a hair.

not sure about SNC pre race and not surprised at your response regarding their mindset..you would think AM progeny would be especially good followup off a "drop win" candidates .. the natural competitive spirit in them would shine in that 2nd start and maybe above average chance to get the 3rd vs your average sire

[str]

sure you'd agree just needs to be placed in the right spot and she'll probably win within a couple of starts
..have to think mentally that must feel good for a horse who's been running over it's head and wins comfortably over a lesser field ..maybe even a carryover effect for at least a race or two afterwards


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Oh yeah, that carryover effect is real.

Horses know when they win. Some take it to another level.

If you look at how stoic some horses that win more than they lose prance around it’s like they are cocky. Lol.

Go back and look at Batts horse Straight No Chaser.
Correct me if I have them mixed up but wasn’t this horse antsy and washed out pre race last year. And somewhat agitated at times.
The horse I saw the other day was strutting around like a peacock and cool calm and collected.
He really does see the camera these days and he hams it up like he knows he’s a badass. I know I saw that in the videos last week before he strutted into the gate like he owned the joint and blew away the field without turning a hair.

[str]

sure you'd agree just needs to be placed in the right spot and she'll probably win within a couple of starts
..have to think mentally that must feel good for a horse who's been running over it's head and wins comfortably over a lesser field ..maybe even a carryover effect for at least a race or two afterwards


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No question about it JBEX. It speaks to that seemingly crazy thing I said about sometimes it’s easier to win 3 in a row than it is 2 in a row.
I wonder if there is actually a stat on that? Too many variables probably to have merit but as crazy as it sounded, I still believe it in plenty of scenarios.

[JBEX]

72-1 and 3 lengths off at the stretch. Wow. What a nice horse. I used to absolutely love a horse like that.
So special JBEX. She is awesome!

sure you'd agree just needs to be placed in the right spot and she'll probably win within a couple of starts
..have to think mentally that must feel good for a horse who's been running over it's head and wins comfortably over a lesser field ..maybe even a carryover effect for at least a race or two afterwards


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[str]

It will take years to iron out all the mistakes that HISA will need to work through but with that said, it is far and away the best thing that could ever happen to USA thoroughbred racing.

Too late for me but that’s just fine. Thank goodness they are getting things right.

It makes me incredibly happy to see.

I hope they make as big an example out of these participants as possible.

https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/282826/hisa-ties-seven-equine-deaths-to-sweeping-pa-conspiracy

[str]

72-1 and 3 lengths off at the stretch call while losing by 10..no shot being pressed on the rail past the quarter pole but not winning this race from any post
.. I think it would've been a better result with a middle to outside post ..possibly a lone frontrunner or pressing the pace breaking from there




I think clm 50kn2l is where she belongs..nice purse and if taken,wins plus what she's won already the owners will have done well with her



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72-1 and 3 lengths off at the stretch. Wow. What a nice horse. I used to absolutely love a horse like that.
So special JBEX. She is awesome!

[str]

You seen a barn get spiritual or have any traditions to get out of the funk STR ?

Santeria etc

A barn funk is not that tough to predict when it comes to claiming stables. A guy like Chad Brown just gets horses who have 3-4 wins in them even if they can’t win stakes because they are so well meant from the beginning. But a claiming barn that has a great, high percentage meet will more times than not, struggle at the next meeting. Why? Because the horses will run through their conditions that they were running and winning and that barn will either have to run them up the ladder against better horses and that usually means the winning slows down or the horses get claimed and the trainer needs to replace those winners with new horses and that can take a while to get the new horse In winning form.
A handicapping note that someone that follows a circuit year round should always look at. Same thing in reverse for the barn that typically does well but had a not so good meeting. Look for that barn to improve the next meet after their stock has been beaten and has the opportunity to drop down in company.

Both scenarios show up and if you are anticipating it, the gambler has scenarios to consider that other gamblers are not.
Try it. It works.

[str]

You seen a barn get spiritual or have any traditions to get out of the funk STR ?

Santeria etc

Well, No bonfires allowed around the barns but there are some good luck things that happen. Probably the most widespread is when you geld a horse you throw the gonads on the barn roof right away for good luck. Hey man, don’t ask me, that was there when I first showed up. Lol.

The old poop in the post parade has been a favorite of bettors forever as has betting lucky numbers like 7-11.

My favorite has to be when the pigeons at Pimlico who sat above the outdoor seating under the high overhang
took a crap, if it hit you, they always said, don’t wash it off. It’s good luck. I had to laugh when guys would walk around with pigeon crap on their hats or jackets. Only at the track.
There were more for sure but when you hear about them, I just shake my head and wonder if a form of intelligent life somewhere is watching and laughing at how weird we all are.

Thanks Lester. You have great questions ! Always enjoy them.

[str]

lost the bob but ran a great race as she always does..probably run at least one more here and then back to mth to face jersey breds .. did run well in the regret stakes (open company) as you mentioned .. good shot at a nice year if she stays healthy


brooklyn drew just got pressed into submission but didn't give it up so bad..would think she'll benefit from that and be a lot tougher customer next out ..be interesting if she flipped posts with the 12 how that race may have went .. early enough in her career that she could possibly still learn to press or stalk the pace ??



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Lost the bob…
Totally agree. She should have a nice year of she stays healthy. I appreciate these types of horses so much. You can never take what a trying, hard working horse gives, which is an all out effort. Whatever they can give, they do. Such an admirable trait when you have one like that.

Brooklyn Drew…
When you measure effort, like you’re doing, it can sometimes allow you to plug that into the upcoming race and see it take shape beforehand .
It makes that particular horse more predictable doesn’t it.

[JBEX]

I see good and bad here..

bad is simply I think she's a cut below a listed stakes horse (and that's not unimportant)

good is circumstances are more normal here..

against fillies..as you know twice against boys in last 4 .. also the churchill race was very fast

proper rest ..no shipping and racing again in a week's time..I mean the combination as obviously she shipped to oaklawn

no artificial..think that's excusable and wasn't a bad run anyway that day

jockey is familiar and gets her in a potential realistic spot


she's capable of passing horses and lots of speed going here but breaking from the rail not ideal

would not be shocked if she ran well here ..price will certainly be right

72-1 and 3 lengths off at the stretch call while losing by 10..no shot being pressed on the rail past the quarter pole but not winning this race from any post
.. I think it would've been a better result with a middle to outside post ..possibly a lone frontrunner or pressing the pace breaking from there




I think clm 50kn2l is where she belongs..nice purse and if taken,wins plus what she's won already the owners will have done well with her



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[Madison]

OP R6 #8 ML 8-1 R Heisman

Guy been in traffic in recent starts. Think he could get some free run here.

Negative? First at OP after running on the West coast. Last 1/18.

[JBEX]

Don't tell me. It's our girl who never saw a long van ride she didn't like before a race.

An 8 horse field. She will most likely run her brains out and be 5th or 6th I assume.

I just hate seeing that. You could throw darts at a spinning wheel and find better spots.

The phrase, "You don't know what you got, till it's gone", comes to mind here. Ugh.

I see good and bad here..

bad is simply I think she's a cut below a listed stakes horse (and that's not unimportant)

good is circumstances are more normal here..

against fillies..as you know twice against boys in last 4 .. also the churchill race was very fast

proper rest ..no shipping and racing again in a week's time..I mean the combination as obviously she shipped to oaklawn

no artificial..think that's excusable and wasn't a bad run anyway that day

jockey is familiar and gets her in a potential realistic spot


she's capable of passing horses and lots of speed going here but breaking from the rail not ideal

would not be shocked if she ran well here ..price will certainly be right

[lesterdymond]

You seen a barn get spiritual or have any traditions to get out of the funk STR ?

Santeria etc

[str]

monday..make up card for saturday


by army mule ..oak R9 #1 (20-1) @ 5:51
filly .. guess who


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Don't tell me. It's our girl who never saw a long van ride she didn't like before a race.

An 8 horse field. She will most likely run her brains out and be 5th or 6th I assume.

I just hate seeing that. You could throw darts at a spinning wheel and find better spots.

The phrase, "You don't know what you got, till it's gone", comes to mind here. Ugh.

[JBEX]

monday..make up card for saturday


by army mule ..oak R9 #1 (20-1) @ 5:51
filly .. guess who


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