Horse Racing questions and answers

[JBEX]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Caldera Ragozin Figure
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Caldera’s Ragozin figure for Sunday’s race came out today, and he earned a very strong number for his performance: a 6.
On the Ragozin scale—a.k.a. “The Sheets”—the lower the figure, the better.
Getaway Car ran an 8” (+ denotes a quarter point; - means minus a quarter point; “ is a half point, so Getaway Car ran an 8 1/2).
How could Caldera have run faster than Getaway Car? Unlike speed figure such as Beyer, Equibase and Brisnet that strictly represent final time adjusted for speed of the track, sheet figures also incorporate additional factors such as ground loss and how much weight a horse was carrying (Thoro-Graph is another example of a sheet-style figure).
Obviously, in this case, the additional ground Caldera covered compared to Getaway Car was what made the difference on figures.
For this time of year as a 3-year-old, a 6 is very strong. Here are some other recent Ragozins earned by sophomores:
10+ for Sam F. Davis winner John Hancock
10” for champion juvenile Citizen Bull in the G3 Robert B. Lewis
9+ for G2 Holy Bull winner Burnham Square
10+ for Withers winner Captain Cook
Recent maiden romper Colloquial, who earned a gaudy 106 Beyer Speed Figure, ran a 4- on the Sheets. We don’t yet know the number for Magnitude’s jaw-dropping win in Saturday’s G2 Risen Star, but it’ll likely come back very fast—he ran a 108 Beyer.
The Sheets are just one more tool to interpret a performance and predict what a horse might do next, and are often used to interpret form cycles (I.e. when a horse is set up to peak, or might regress or “bounce”). There’s never any guarantee that a horse will follow a particular pattern or repeat a particularly fast number again, but this gives us one more reason to be impressed by yesterday’s run and excited for the future.
We’ve started some internal discussions as far as nexttargets are concerned, but will let the dust settle a bit before going over options with The Coach and getting his take. Stay tuned.

guessing he traveled about 4 -6 lengths further going wide around both turns ..would account for the much lower (better) figure which as they said is an excellent one for a 3yo's this time of year..add to that (for me anyway) an early foal with a somewhat late start to his career (means he's getting his sh*t together quick) and I'd say things are developing really nice for him

interesting to see what final leg derby prep he'll shoot for..with the number he earned last out they might not be afraid to go anywhere..I like the louisiana derby as it's usually a little easier than arkansas or florida and you get to go the extra 1/16 th of a mile..5 weeks away and 6 weeks prior to the big one..nice spacing imo..whatever the path exciting to see him going forward as a serious contender

[Easy-Rider 66]

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Dang it.... High's and low's of the game....

Magnitude on the sidelines for at least 9 weeks.

[Madison]

it was and possibly going as wide as he did cost him towards the end ..cost them $160k and I believe 10 pts but more importantly he moves forward as a derby contender..the filly version going half furlong shorter was 6 seconds off the track record while the derby was 2 seconds off so potentially the figure caldera ran might be very good

Other one is SUN R9 #4 Getaway Car. High expectations here. 9 is a Liams/Tiznow who has underperformed to date.

[Madison]

What a heck of a horse race! Caldera lost the head bob... I thought he was going right on by "getaway car" but hung a little galloped out nicely though!

Nice horse he lost to. Wish we put 2 and 2 together for the EX.

[batt33]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]h Dirt Sprint Post Draw
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The field for Saturday’s G2 Riyadh Dirt Sprint was drawn Tuesday and Straight No Chaser was assigned gate #9 (he will wear saddle towel 10). The other main speed, Jasper Krone, is drawn immediately to his outside, so jockey John Velazquez will have to determine optimal tactics, but if anyone can do that, it’s the Hall of Famer.
As discussed in our video preview released over the weekend, this does still appear to be Straight No Chaser’s race to win.
Post time for the race will be 5:00 p.m. local time, which is 9:00 a.m. ET.

[batt33]

[batt33]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Tuesday Morning with SNC

https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...9868895037.mp4
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Straight No Chaser jogged up in good order following yesterday’s breeze. As mentioned yesterday, he had a walk day this morning, followed by a quick paddock schooling session. Straight No Chaser handled himself exceptionally well and seems to enjoy his new surroundings. He’ll head back to the paddock tomorrow afternoon with other horses to give it a bit more of a race day feel. He will also train over the training track tomorrow morning, likely jogging one lap and galloping one lap.
Enjoy the video above.

[batt33]

[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Caldera Ragozin Figure
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Caldera’s Ragozin figure for Sunday’s race came out today, and he earned a very strong number for his performance: a 6.
On the Ragozin scale—a.k.a. “The Sheets”—the lower the figure, the better.
Getaway Car ran an 8” (+ denotes a quarter point; - means minus a quarter point; “ is a half point, so Getaway Car ran an 8 1/2).
How could Caldera have run faster than Getaway Car? Unlike speed figure such as Beyer, Equibase and Brisnet that strictly represent final time adjusted for speed of the track, sheet figures also incorporate additional factors such as ground loss and how much weight a horse was carrying (Thoro-Graph is another example of a sheet-style figure).
Obviously, in this case, the additional ground Caldera covered compared to Getaway Car was what made the difference on figures.
For this time of year as a 3-year-old, a 6 is very strong. Here are some other recent Ragozins earned by sophomores:
10+ for Sam F. Davis winner John Hancock
10” for champion juvenile Citizen Bull in the G3 Robert B. Lewis
9+ for G2 Holy Bull winner Burnham Square
10+ for Withers winner Captain Cook
Recent maiden romper Colloquial, who earned a gaudy 106 Beyer Speed Figure, ran a 4- on the Sheets. We don’t yet know the number for Magnitude’s jaw-dropping win in Saturday’s G2 Risen Star, but it’ll likely come back very fast—he ran a 108 Beyer.
The Sheets are just one more tool to interpret a performance and predict what a horse might do next, and are often used to interpret form cycles (I.e. when a horse is set up to peak, or might regress or “bounce”). There’s never any guarantee that a horse will follow a particular pattern or repeat a particularly fast number again, but this gives us one more reason to be impressed by yesterday’s run and excited for the future.
We’ve started some internal discussions as far as nexttargets are concerned, but will let the dust settle a bit before going over options with The Coach and getting his take. Stay tuned.

[batt33]

Magnitude needs surgery for a bone chip in the ankle. Ugh!

too bad. thx for the update Jelly.

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Dang it.... High's and low's of the game....

[Easy-Rider 66]

Magnitude needs surgery for a bone chip in the ankle. Ugh!

too bad. thx for the update Jelly.

[Jellymancan]

Magnitude needs surgery for a bone chip in the ankle. Ugh!

[JBEX]

they have clm 35 and 50k for n2l so maybe that's a little more realistic than an allowance race ..think I'd want the extra protection of the latter for my first shot and then drop if necessary ..be interesting to see where he winds up



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latter being clm 50k and not the allowance race

[JBEX]

Agree JBEX. That was the race to take him if you were going to.

they have clm 35 and 50k for n2l so maybe that's a little more realistic than an allowance race ..think I'd want the extra protection of the latter for my first shot and then drop if necessary ..be interesting to see where he winds up



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[str]

honestly I would not want to lose this horse for $20k and I believe there's a good chance they will if they run him in the same type of race next out..think he may have needed that effort as it was such a long time since he'd been in all out competitive race..when in shape I think he could possibly win a turf sprint or even an allowance race down the road

Agree JBEX. That was the race to take him if you were going to.

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[COLOR=rgba(77, 76, 76, 0.9)]Straight No Chaser Workout Report
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Straight No Chaser had his final breeze in preparation for the G2 Riyadh Dirt Sprint on Monday morning. Working under Juan Landeros, Straight No Chaser broke off from the 800 meter pole and cruised over the Riyadh main track in :48 and change. In the video above it will take you through your son of Speightster's morning including the pre-work instructions from trainer Dan Blacker to assistant Juan Landeros, the work itself and Dan's opinion on how the work went.
He cooled out in great shape after the work, scoped clean and all we can do is hope everything continues in good order over the next few days. We are very pleased with how everything has went to thus point. Straight No Chaser will likely have a walk day tomorrow which is his usual schedule a day after a work but depending on his energy in the morning, he could potentially head out for an easy jog on the training track if necessary. He is also scheduled to have is first day of paddock schooling tomorrow morning. This will be a very quick introduction to the paddock and as we mentioned, he is scheduled to also school Wednesday and Thursday in the afternoons. https://cdnb-media.myracehorse.com/b...9788888353.mp4

Looks great Batt.

[JBEX]

on the lead while facing serious pace pressure from the 1/4 to well past the 3/8th ..held together pretty well to finish 2nd by 1.5 lengths ..good chance to win at or around this level next out

honestly I would not want to lose this horse for $20k and I believe there's a good chance they will if they run him in the same type of race next out..think he may have needed that effort as it was such a long time since he'd been in all out competitive race..when in shape I think he could possibly win a turf sprint or even an allowance race down the road

[batt33]

the far right icon next to reply with quote. on the bottom of a the persons post. Hit that for each post you want to multi quote.

Thanks Easy! Guess if it was a snake it would have bit me!

[Easy-Rider 66]

Missed the race completely ... dealing with other stuff.... on a side note how do you add multiple quotes to a response?

the far right icon next to reply with quote. on the bottom of a the persons post. Hit that for each post you want to multi quote.

[batt33]

on the lead while facing serious pace pressure from the 1/4 to well past the 3/8th ..held together pretty well to finish 2nd by 1.5 lengths ..good chance to win at or around this level next out

Missed the race completely ... dealing with other stuff.... on a side note how do you add multiple quotes to a response?

[JBEX]

Army Mule.... Race 4 number 4 at Oaklawn "Ceepeegee" 10-1. I haven't looked at the race yet.

thanks batt.. been in a lot of crazy spots throughout his career and I think he's well meant and capable at this level


post @ 3:11

Nice to see this horse get the class relief it needs.
I think the horse fits with these.
I think he is worth solid consideration .

on the lead while facing serious pace pressure from the 1/4 to well past the 3/8th ..held together pretty well to finish 2nd by 1.5 lengths ..good chance to win at or around this level next out