ElCapitan's 2010-2011 NHL Season

[ElCapitan]

11/21/10 Plays

V1 Calgary Flames (A) ML +197 (1 to win 1.97)
V1 Calgary Flames (A) PL -149 (1.49 to win 1)

[Kev the Brit]

jphil:

EL CAP: was wondering if it would be possible every few wks. or so, to post an update as far as the TOTAL UNITS W/L for the v1 & v2 separately, like ya did on your spr. sheet last yr.? It would just give us an indication once in a while of what each version is doin individually, instead of combined. V2 (W/ 4 C losses) doesn't seem to be doin v1 justice at all.

If it helps, there have been 20 V1 series so far this season, and they have all won, with only 3 C bets along the way. So, until the V1 loses, you can assume that it is growing by 1 unit per series.

Currently, after 20 series (date 11/20) V1 (on the PL) is +20.00 units

I don't know why the V1 is standing up so well. It can now afford a loss and remain in credit.

Regards

[J.M. Disciple]

What are the records for John Morrison on his V1 and v2? Is there a v3 system? You say v1 is 20-0 and v2 is xx - 4 ??

Can someone link me to his site also is there a spread sheet on all the hockey plays?

[Kev the Brit]

J.M Disciple

What are the records for John Morrison on his V1 and v2? Is there a v3 system? You say v1 is 20-0 and v2 is xx - 4 ??

I say it, because its true. If you read through the preceeding 9 pages you will find someone has posted the spreadsheet. You can then compare the spreadsheet with ElCapitan's daily reports and compile your own records. I'll give you a headstart: There have been 49 V2 series (up to 11/21), of which 21 have been purely V1 series (all winners). Therefore, there have been 28 (unrestricted conference) series (4 have lost; big numbers) within the V2 system.

When you find the spreadsheet, I suggest you delete all of the V2 system series.

There is no V3 system.

[ElCapitan]

11/21/10 Results

V1 Calgary Flames (A) ML +197 (1 to win 1.97) *LOSS*
V1 Calgary Flames (A) PL -149 (1.49 to win 1) *WIN*

Record:
ML: 49(A)-25(B)-17(C) (+0.78)
PL: 49(A)-15(B)-8(C) (-73.54)

[ElCapitan]

I ran a few numbers just because some people have been asking me. Here are some results thus far:

                                       A              B           C
V1 ML Summary Results                -3.66            1.34       12.52
V2 ML Summary Results                 5.74            -9.16     -6.00
V1 PL Summary Results                 -1.49          -9.27      31.76
V2 PL Summary Results                 2.33           -31.29     -65.58

That's the units won/lost with each system on each bet type. These are now included in my Google spreadsheet at the bottom.

If you add up the V1 PL number you will see that it does indeed come up to +21 units after tonight's win - just as Kev was saying. If you were also playing the V1 ML, you'd be up another 10 units. V2 on the other hand...

[jordanfreak]

Hey EL im new to this nhl systen whats the win record for so far for the v1 picks?

[Kev the Brit]

jordanfreak:

Hey EL im new to this nhl systen whats the win record for so far for the v1 picks?

Are you serious? Did you not read the other posts on this page? Its 100%, so far. 21 series, all of which have won.

[J.M. Disciple]

Jordan has a habbit of not reading the other post on the thread. I am starting to make a bad habbit of it also Thanks for redirecting me to the spread sheet.

I still do not know the record for His last years system record for v1. Ill read through this thread again and see if it shows it. If it doesn't please post his last years record below this post please. Thanks

[J.M. Disciple]

I read through all the pages for this thread.

V1 is a team that has a 3 game series with at least one of the teams from an opposing conference.

***Rules that are optional to apply***
1) Team should be .500 + win ratio
2) They should not have the worst road record in the NHL
3) If they are the favorite in the series bet ML
4) if they are underdog in the series then bet PL
5) Never risk more then 2% of your bankroll as your starting unit size to win.

Thanks everyone for making this thread Happen especially El captain!
I got some points coming your way soon. Soon as i find a good spread sheet with only v1 series listed on them.

[J.M. Disciple]

Does that .500+ win ratio really count as a rule for the system I am not sure? I was looking at some of the upcoming bets and the next 4 bets all the teams are below 500. Even though it cancels out 1 of the losses last season for v1 i think it will cancel out a lot of the series wagers.

Can someone please inform me on which rules are correct and incorrect that i listed above? Also feel free to add to the rule list that I should be following for the system. I am very new to Hockey system. I don't even really watch Hockey, but any system that can put some extra money in my pocket im willing to try it.

[mitchp]

J.M,

The .500 is not part of the original rules set by Morrison. That was a mod by a member of this thread to try to increase the A & B wins. Everything else you have is correct.

[Kev the Brit]

JMD:

***Rules that are optional to apply***
1) Team should be .500 + win ratio

This is news to me. Which post (#) does that come from? I accept that any suggestion from anyone is optional, but I don't recall reading it. It could be a useful filter against losses, but there will also be a few winners thrown out also, I guess.

Give me a few hours and I'll post the V1 schedule for this season and the stats for both the V1 and V2 last season.

Rgds

[J.M. Disciple]

J.M,

The .500 is not part of the original rules set by Morrison. That was a mod by a member of this thread to try to increase the A & B wins. Everything else you have is correct.

Gave you some points for this cause I got your spread sheet earlier in the forum (sorry i cant give more points. Im new to sbr still so few points collected). At first I didn't understand it LOL. But i went back through the thread again because i realized I made my own spread sheet through out rest of this month and december. Then i realized all of these bets were for the home game stand.

Is the 3 home game stand really a system? I actually went through the games and labeled all of them as v1 or v2 for the home game stand based on conference. (v2 being all in same conference, v1 being at least 1 out of conference). Someone posted that it is 17-0 so far so i wanted to try it out. Also the guy that posted the .500+ linked his site and it appears to have 1 loss. Whats the loss from if other guy is saying its 17-0??

Im kinda confused on this??

[J.M. Disciple]

Calgary won at "A Level" so There is no "B Bet" on your spread sheet correct?
Also Los Angeles is listed as "C Bet" for today but they also won on their "B bet" so there are no bets for today correct?

Im comparing Mitch's spread sheet with El Captains Google spread sheet.


Next Bet V2 11/24/10: Chicago vs San jose, Anaheim, and Los Angeles
Next Bet V1 11/24/10: New York Rangers vs Tampa Bay, Florida, and Nashville

[Kev the Brit]

JM NHL V1 Schedule for 2010/11 season. Note that I have included all V2 series (21 total) up to Nov 13, when the 4th V2 series lost.

There are 88 lines, 21 are V2, so the V1 season comprises 67 series. In theory, the system should win 67 units. However, I believe there will be 1 loss somewhere, probably costing approx 50 units. If the loss occurs with at least 6 series to go, the lost money should be recoverable. As usual, beware betting on teams that are out of the play-offs.

Last seasson's V1 and V2 stats coming soon....

Rgds

[J.M. Disciple]

I'm looking at your spread sheet and I see that on:
December 15th Anaheim is listed at washington, NYI, Car, then you continue the series with Bos, buff, and LA.
You play a 6 game series? I see on Mitch's spread sheet he list them as 2 different series. A B C and then again with A starting with Boston on Dec. 20th.

[J.M. Disciple]

A: $30 to win $10 PL -300
B: $120 to win $40
C: $480 to win $160
assuming you have -300 odds on A B and C *(rarely the case)
Is this why you said if it loses a series then you will end up losing around 50 units?
Lets hope he does not have any losses then. This is super discouraging. I might just stick to the basketball, which will only cost me 16 units a series if i lost.

[J.M. Disciple]

Has the home team stand system been back tested at all? Is that the system where you only played .500 teams?

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=804332&page=2

If so there is a play today 11/22/10 Betting on Florida (v2 bet; idk if home team stand works with v1 v2 or not) vs Pittsburgh followed by Boston, then NYR.

[ElCapitan]

It's kind of a slow week. All we have coming up this week is

11/22 Calgary (B) ML only
11/24 Calgary (C) ML only (if they lose 11/22), V1 New York Rangers (A)
11/26 V1 New York Rangers (B)
11/27 V1 Florida Panthers (A), V1 New York Rangers (C)

[ElCapitan]

11/22/10 Plays

V1 Calgary Flames (B) ML +151 (1.32 to win 2)

[jordanfreak]

Hey EL what you think the odds are on calgary to win today?

[jordanfreak]

By the way how many c bets have you guys hit so far with the v1 system?

[jordanfreak]

And one more thing why would we do a ml bet on calgary if there considered the underdogs?

Shouldnt we be doing the pl? sorry i dont bet with hockey can you please explain?

[ElCapitan]

Hey EL what you think the odds are on calgary to win today?

40%

By the way how many c bets have you guys hit so far with the v1 system?

It's in the thread.

And one more thing why would we do a ml bet on calgary if there considered the underdogs?

Shouldnt we be doing the pl? sorry i dont bet with hockey can you please explain?

It's in the thread.

[jordanfreak]

So bet on the ml for calgary right?

[jphil]

JM NHL V1 Schedule for 2010/11 season. Note that I have included all V2 series (21 total) up to Nov 13, when the 4th V2 series lost.

There are 88 lines, 21 are V2, so the V1 season comprises 67 series. In theory, the system should win 67 units. However, I believe there will be 1 loss somewhere, probably costing approx 50 units. If the loss occurs with at least 6 series to go, the lost money should be recoverable. As usual, beware betting on teams that are out of the play-offs.

Last seasson's V1 and V2 stats coming soon....

Rgds

NICE SHEET!! KEV, Would you, or anyone happen to know why my laptop asks me to enter a product key everytime i go to open 1 of these excel sheets? I've entered it about 6x, & it comes back saying i entered wrong key, & yet i eventually open it by just passing on the product key question option? It's just a pain getting that pop-up all the time. (El CAP'S google sheet doesn't do that). Just wonderin'.


yeh, logicwise, it must be something psychological w/ that v1(playin 1 or more opp. conf. tms.), compared to v2(playin all same conf. tms.). plus the v1 backtesting of course, helped.


thanx again to you & elcap for the stats.

[jphil]

Has the home team stand system been back tested at all? Is that the system where you only played .500 teams?

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=804332&page=2

If so there is a play today 11/22/10 Betting on Florida (v2 bet; idk if home team stand works with v1 v2 or not) vs Pittsburgh followed by Boston, then NYR.

i wouldn't play fla. w/ that sys. because if they lose tonight then that would eliminate them from the chase (dropping below .500 at start of B bet). It would then be considered an incomplete & discontinued series. I'm pretty sure betstricker would call tonight's fla. game unnoficial because of this, & the fact that he's still trying to make up for the last discontinued series (w/ the rangers). Your choice.

"If during a system play, the team you are playing on drops below .500, it equals a series loss. In this case, I take the money lost and split it between the next 3 series."


there was only 1 loss last yr.



THIS IS NON JM RELATED

[ElCapitan]

So bet on the ml for calgary right?

Are you reading anything anyone posts?

[jphil]

[quote=Kev the Brit;7564841]JMD:This is news to me. Which post (#) does that come from? I accept that any suggestion from anyone is optional, but I don't recall reading it. It could be a useful filter against losses, but there will also be a few winners thrown out also, I guess.



KEV, it was pg. 5, post 159.(sbr)

His thread: http://www.therxforum.com/showthread...=804332&page=1

[jordanfreak]

are you reading anything anyone posts?

ill just stop askin you questions since your no help

[ElCapitan]

ill just stop askin you questions since your no help

Probably for the best.

[jphil]

[stevex]

jordanfreak, are you kidding? ElCapitan has been running this JM NHL thread since last year and your going to get on his case for not telling you something that has been repeated time and time again? Capitan don't let that stuff bother man and you run a great thread.

[jphil]

JF: You look like YOU'RE pretty well off in your WALL STREET luxury, what would ya need NHL & low- life like us for?