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1. I have watched heart surgery for two years on youtube. Am I qualified to perform heart surgery, or critique the performance of a heart surgeon?
Let me answer it for you, no.
2. If I can prove that you told people not to make +EV plays will you stop following me around like the pathetic phaget that everyone knows you are? (still waiting for SOMEONE to vouch for you). i suspect you did this because you had no idea what a +EV play wasComment -
Ive been watching driving videos on youtube but have never driven a car. brb giving people driving lessons.Comment -
You're right DeFacto. I'm riding on the coattails of my Korean Zombie win and that's why I feel that every inch of this fight that I've analyzed has to do with the Korean Zombie.
Please disregard the very first minute of the video where it's spent discussing my losing play on Brookins and rationale/apology. Never mind the fact that I never started gloating about my brilliant contrarian KZ play on the prior video and recapping how close to the prognostication that fight went.
I don't give a shit about KZ, Brookins, Miller or Hulk Hogan in this fight. I care about Wanderlei vs Rich and I spent 22 minutes discussing the two and how they matchup.
Let's see you do a video for 22 minutes critiquing the stylistic intricacies of the fight. Then when someone says that it's all related to a pyramid scheme, planes crashing into the world trade centre or the cold war, you'll know the feeling of looking at them cross-eyed after all of the data you poured over and detailed in your video about Wanderlei Silva & Rich Franklin.Comment -
Although I don't necessary disagree with u on this, as it's something that I often consider and go back and forth on, but where do u draw the line exactly? For instance, if u are at med school and done say 3 years worth of hard studying can u then critique the performance of a heart surgeon or do u have to wait till u are fully qualified? Or what if u are a qualified heart surgeon but not a very good one once u start actually doing it...can u still critique other surgeons then? With MMA, guys like Jason Reinhardt who has fought many fights and beat many dudes... is he permitted to critique the performance of GSP over somebody who has never fought in the cage? I know I've mentioned it before, but when listening to some of Frank Trigg's predictions and breakdowns it's outright laughable! Or maybe Im coming at this at the wrong angle....are u saying only guys who've done it can critique because of the whole "experience" thing regardless of whether they can critique well or not? So the whole "I've been there done it so know how to relate" aspect?Comment -
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I think we had a discussion about it before, there are no absolutes. i.e just because you have fighting experience (whatever degree) doesn't mean you will be automatically be able to analse fights, and vice versa.
But how much could someone with no experience possibly pick up from watching fights alone. First off, everything they know is told to them by the announcers, or they read it from sherdog (possibly by someone with experience).
Just because Frank Trigg sucks doesn't mean everybody sucks. Just like if Luca Fury has never fought but can cap doesn't mean everyone can.
But seriously, this guy is trying to say that he has some special insight despite having no real experience besides watching fights on TV (for only a few years lets be honest). And he is saying things that basically everyone disagrees with (everyone expert or whoever). "He watched his tape and evaluted his chin?" Kid has no clue wtf he is talking about. Smacks of this to me
The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.[1]
Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. As Kruger and Dunning conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about othersComment -
hey little crippler, address this point and stop running away, okay Dephaggot?
Do 95% of the people that post on here that have not trained striking or grappling have no idea what they're talking about. Does that mean that countless successful cappers are profitable purely because of luck and not from watching tape and doing research/analysis on the basis that they don't train? Also if this is true then I guess everyone on here who doesn't train (which is the vast majority) except you are idiots wasting their time..... Okaaay bud. Owned.
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You think this is funny?
Do 95% of the people that post on here that have not trained striking or grappling or both have no idea what they're talking about.
Many people here have no more than superficial knowledge.
What "countless' successful cappers? V.... and um Nunya, I guess i'll take his word for it. Who else, Jesus? We got threeDoes that mean that countless successful cappers are profitable purely because of luck and not from watching tape and doing research/analysis on the basis that they don't train? Also if this is true then I guess everyone on here who doesn't train (which is the vast majority) except you are idiots wasting their time..... Okaaay bud. Owned.
inb4 I take YOUR word for it, lol. Why do you think 5dimes puts out these lines. God you are naive.
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I do apologize. What I see happened was I drew an analogy of people on Sherdog believing a perpetual myth of KZ (zombie style, outclassed everywhere vs Poirier) and I likened it to the same sort of myth about Wanderlei's chin and his ability to points fight. Everyone keeps saying it so it must be true but I feel so strongly in contrary that I feel everyone will pile on the bandwagon and question the myth after the fact.
An important skillset of a capper is to prognosticate not just arrive at conclusions based on historical data and that includes anticipating things before they happen.
I didn't mean to call you out. I just don't like when people handpick criticisms about past plays to discredit you when you publicly put yourself out there and make <50% implied probability plays which fail more often than not. I'm not saying you are/were but saying I'm 1-2 without acknowledging the emphasis I had on certain plays (going even heavier on a deep dog & the time spent capping that fight) is misrepresentative.
Jesus Christ is an example of a great capper that can be painted with the brush of being a shitty capper. The guy's record is below .500 this year. Yet he's up more than $3000 in public plays.
That's all I'm getting at. But I do apologize for suggesting you raised the issue before I brought up KZ. My bad.Comment -
Stay classy DeFacto.
Not everyone can type on an iPad as quickly as you'd like I guess.Comment -
and what the hell do you bring to the table other than trolling and running away when you get called out on idiotic bullshit points. Ya ppl appreciate the videos. I would love to see what some keyboard warrior named crippler who acts tough pretending to train mma anonymously on an internet board's video would sound like lol.Comment -
Well this is where the semantics of what a "capper" is and what a "bettor" is I guess. Having the ability to pick the right spots and possessing a decent understanding of betting in general can yield good results (understanding line movement, arbitrage betting, line shopping etc..). U don't have to have trained for 20 years to know that Jeremy Stephens shouldnt of come out as a +110 underdog on sportsbook against Marcus Davis! But I think DeFacto's point was in terms of actually critiquing fights specifically and analyzing skillsets in specifics rather than making money from betting on fights in general.Comment -
Yes Defacto trolls a lot but he clearly isnt retarded like some trolls! He has a similar vibe to the great Chairib who hasnt posted on here in a while...clearly intelligent and knows what he's talking about (majority of time) but will piss 90% of people off!Comment -
They're you go defacto, someone who you've been worshiping has openly admitted that you troll a lot. Hope that sinks into your thick skull lol.Comment -
you think those are the only profitable mma cappers in the world?! LOL. Little crippler, your dumber than I thought.[/QUOTE]
To be fair u did say "I guess everyone on here who doesnt train..." after u asked the question so kind of implied u were talking about SBR specificallyComment -
Not all trolls are the same tho! Again, no absolutes....and there are different views on what a "troll" is. I probably should of put trolls in inverted commas wen I said tht above as I meant that I understand why others would see him as a "troll". I just think he likes to get a reaction out of people but also offers some insight so isnt a true "troll"!
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Yes, this exactly! If Wannabet just said I think the odds are good, wtf am I supposed to say? Good luck. But he posted reasons based on technical fight analysis which bucks that of the experts (not me). I'm just questioning what would make ANYONE who has just watched fights for a few years be able to think they could do that.
It all boils down to wishful thinking. I don't know much about BJJ at all. You will rarely see me even talk about that here. Everything I say in regards to BJJ is regurgitated superficial knowledge, from Rogan or Sherdog or an instructional video. Believe me, I've watched as many fights as most here and I have no idea how I could even know wtf the fighters were doing in regards to BJJ without Rogan, except on a "superficial" level.
But you talk to some of the people here and the think they should be cornering the focking fighter.Comment -
To be fair u did say "I guess everyone on here who doesnt train..." after u asked the question so kind of implied u were talking about SBR specifically[/QUOTE]
Okay fine, we'll go with that basis. He is still a complete joke to claim that only you, Nunya, and jesus are the only profitable individuals on here. Not only that, but it is a slap in the face to every other person who posts on this forum. Not that it matters because it's coming from a troll.Comment -
you think those are the only profitable mma cappers in the world?! LOL. Little crippler, your dumber than I thought.[/QUOTE]
So were are talking about "random" successful cappers of whom you don't know but are sure have no fighting experience?Comment -
The retard basically agreed with my statement saying "I guess everyone on here are idiots who have no chance in being successful betting mma because they don't train" Therefore openly insulting everyone including you V.
I love how stupid this piece of shit crippler is. The best part is he doesn't even realize it!! lol.Comment -
Anyway, been emotional guys but I have the new Urijah Faber book waiting to be startedComment -
Obviously you're right, but that fight might not be the best example. From what I remember, that opener wasn't too far off.
Stephens was rocked by an overhand left and clearly lost the first round, barely edged out the second and was losing the third before landing his right hand. It's been awhile, but that's how I remember the third, could be wrong.
I wish I could remember who opened that line.Comment -
Yep, that's pretty much exactly how the fight went down from rewatching it recently (to cap Stephens vs Cerrone, swaying me on a value prop play of Stephens in round 3 at +2000 :/ ).
The opening line wasn't far off in retrospect. Stephens almost always needs the finish to win a fight (unless he's just smashing Danny Downes Syndrome).Comment -
I think you're the only person who thinks that.
From Sherdog:
Freddie DeFreitas scores the round 10-9 Le
Chris Nelson scores the round 10-9 Le
Mike Whitman scores the round 10-9 Le
MMAJunkie:
MMAjunkie.comgives it to Le, 10-9.
USA Today:
I'd score round 1 for Cung.
MMA Weekly:
Le still did enough to take it on MMAWeekly’s scorecard.
Pretty much no one gave the first round to Wanderlei. I respect your opinion and all, but you're very wrong here in my, and most's, opinion.Last edited by Luca Fury; 06-12-12, 06:46 PM.Comment
