[onlooker]

SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 10th AT 9:00 PM ET/6:00 PM PT on HBO PPV– Madison Square Garden, New York

12 round WELTERWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP FIGHT

• Migeul Cotto (30-0, 25 KOs)
• Shane Mosley (44-4, 37 KOs)

Who do you like in this fight?

[rjt721]

Probably the best fight of the year. Slight lean to Cotto, but Shane could certainly take this one.

[raidersfan]

Cotto at -150 looks really good to me. Cotto is young, strong and i cant see an old fading mosely doing anything to hurt this guy. Cotto will back him up and start working on the body early, mosley is not strong enough to push him back. Sure shane can prove me wrong by outworking the guy, but at -150 the bet is on Cotto (strong).

[Nightwolfkicksaz]

Looks like mma is forcing boxing to get better with their match-ups. This should be a good one.

[onlooker]

Hey RJT, how did this one go? I didn't watch it and I figured you did. How about a recap bud?

[rjt721]

Hey RJT, how did this one go? I didn't watch it and I figured you did. How about a recap bud?

Very good, close fight. Cotto won a unanimous decision: 15-13, 15-13, 16-13. I scored it a draw. Cotto controlled the early-middle rounds, but Mosley came on strong down the stretch, and I had him winning 4 of the last 5 rounds. The decision could've gone either way - according to CompuBox both fighters landed 248 shots. Also, the ref sucked - Shane had Cotto hurt in the 9th, yet the ref inexplicably stopped the fight while Cotto was stunned to clean up a wet spot in the corner of the ring, giving Cotto time to rest.

Cotto's probably looking at a big fight with Mayweather sometime next year after Floyd destroys Hatton next month, or possibly a fight with Margarito or even De La Hoya, although I don't think Oscar would/should want any part of Cotto.

I had a small play on Mosley by decision +320 and a medium-sized play on Casamayor by decision on the undercard, in which Casa was knocked down early in the first and completely dominated the rest of the fight, yet somehow "earned" a split decision. There's no way Casamayor won more than 3 rounds in the fight... one of the worst decisions I've ever seen. I'm not complaining, though, as I made a nice profit as a result of the decision.

[onlooker]

Thanks RJT.

I will try to catch it on the replay next week on HBO.

[moses millsap]

I had it 115-113 for Shane. Cotto faded down the stretch and lost all but one of the championship rounds. This should not translate into an unanimous decision, but with the way boxing is going, it did not surprise me. Ref also screwed SSM by allowing for a stoppage to wipe up a wet spot on the mat after Cotto was clearly rocked, and perhaps, ready to go down.

Casamayor decision was sick. Robbed Santa Cruz of a belt he deserved.

Mayweather is going to kill Hatton. Might be the best chalk bet in 10 years.

[punchmaster]

I had it 115-113 for Shane. Cotto faded down the stretch and lost all but one of the championship rounds. This should not translate into an unanimous decision, but with the way boxing is going, it did not surprise me. Ref also screwed SSM by allowing for a stoppage to wipe up a wet spot on the mat after Cotto was clearly rocked, and perhaps, ready to go down.

Casamayor decision was sick. Robbed Santa Cruz of a belt he deserved.

Mayweather is going to kill Hatton. Might be the best chalk bet in 10 years.

Shane had no problem with the Cotto decision. The best you can call for Shane is a draw but most astute ringside observers agreed with the three judges on Cotto doing enough to win. Casamayor decision was one of the worst you could see. Are you sure Hatton isn't capable of applying the type of pressure that Castillo used to give Mayweather fits in their first fight? I'm sure Hatton's watched that bout many times.

[rjt721]

Are you sure Hatton isn't capable of applying the type of pressure that Castillo used to give Mayweather fits in their first fight? I'm sure Hatton's watched that bout many times.

Fair point, but JLC was stronger than Floyd and had the speed to apply constant pressure, something Hatton lacks. De La Hoya tried a similar approach, but Floyd wouldn't allow it. Ricky is only effective while holding and fighting on the inside, and if Mayweather stays away he wins with ease. I think Floyd keeps Hatton at a distance and toys with him, similar to Floyd/JLC 2. And I don't think Hatton will ever be confused with being as capable of a fighter as a prime Castillo.

[punchmaster]

Fair point, but JLC was stronger than Floyd and had the speed to apply constant pressure, something Hatton lacks. De La Hoya tried a similar approach, but Floyd wouldn't allow it. Ricky is only effective while holding and fighting on the inside, and if Mayweather stays away he wins with ease. I think Floyd keeps Hatton at a distance and toys with him, similar to Floyd/JLC 2. And I don't think Hatton will ever be confused with being as capable of a fighter as a prime Castillo.

I haven't been much of a Hatton fan- thinking he caught Tszyu at the right time with bigtime wrestling tactics and Castillo was probably a bit past it, but I'm starting to buy into Hatton being better than meet's the eye. I don't think Castillo is/was any faster than Hatton but was a tremendous pressure fighter. I also don't think DLH is a great pressure fighter plus he gassed and I'm not convinced that Castillo at 135 was stronger than Floyd then, than Hatton will be when he weighs in around 143 in a few weeks. Can't wait and I'd love to see the arrogant Mayweather troubled.

[moses millsap]

You should've trusted your first instincts on Hatton punch. Dave Parris or whatever that corrupt ref was in his fight with Tsyzu allowed Hatton to basically dry **** Kostya all night and then nail him with that blatant low blow. JLC was a joke that night against Hatton, he would've lost to many.

Only way Floyd doesn't win is if he breaks his fists/hands like he has in the past. Otherwise, I'd say the true line is closer to Mayweather -2000. Yes, I give him a better than 95% chance of winning this fight unless the judges decide to pull some shady shit on him.

[punchmaster]

You should've trusted your first instincts on Hatton punch. Dave Parris or whatever that corrupt ref was in his fight with Tsyzu allowed Hatton to basically dry **** Kostya all night and then nail him with that blatant low blow. JLC was a joke that night against Hatton, he would've lost to many.

Only way Floyd doesn't win is if he breaks his fists/hands like he has in the past. Otherwise, I'd say the true line is closer to Mayweather -2000. Yes, I give him a better than 95% chance of winning this fight unless the judges decide to pull some shady shit on him.

Interesting- thanks for the input. Yea that low blow was about the worst I've seen-supposedly retaliatory but Tszyu did nothing like it. I hated that fight and hated Hatton then. Once Urango hit him good to the gut- Hatton fought the worst punch n hold I've seen the last 6 rounds- I was ringside and disliked Hatton's style again. The Hatton JLC fight- I think JLC was having a pretty good 3rd round and Joe fricken Cortez took a point away from JLC for what looked like a nice body shot and Hatton continued with his swarming pressure. I'm a JLC fan- that was tough to watch.

If you look at Floyd's last handful of opponents , they are nothing like what Hatton will bring. The last true pressure fighter Floyd was in against was over 5 years ago- JLC. He's going to have to work hard- IMO .

[onlooker]

Hey guys, you can continue the Hatton/PBF discussion in this thread.

http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/boxing-mma...08-2007-a.html