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and then he gets injured every other fight, hes literally known for being one of the most unreliable fighters to make it to the octagon lol
theres always an excuse with him and the AKA guys
they train like idiots , ive seen multiple videos of them doing strength training and its laughable
all 4 of them could EASILY be champions if they didnt take such a meathead approach to the game ... DC, Cain, Rockhold and KhabibComment -
Fighters kill themselves these days to have the advantage with smaller fighters.. Sometimes it kills them at the scales, all they can do is make excuses rather then come up a weight class...
Missing weight is embarrassing and I lose respect for those fighters when it happens.. Johnny Hendrix is the king of that and look at him today... Once UFC champ now about to be cut or retire.. Karma..Comment -
Cain breaks my heart. Ever since I saw him I predicted great, great things for him. I was almost sure he was going to be a long reigning world champion. I didnt know that he was literally killing himself with his training methods.
Seeing a talent in any sport wasting their time away with stupidity just breaks my heart.Comment -
He needed to listen to his body more. Be smarter. Personally Cain takes the number 1 spot of biggest disappointments in MMA of all time.Comment -
Hendricks really doesnt like USADA but thats a good thing. If anybody watched Pride FC you would know why. Anderson cant pass the medicals without being on something these days. Alot of fighters cant even fight anymore in the US with USADA around.
Cyborg juiced her brains out and apparently she doesnt do it anymore. Im no doc but it looks like there are still a lotta fvckin traces left of her juicing heydays. Still a massive neck and deep voice, probably massive clitoris.Comment -
Watching film on the Esparza fight now. First thought is even if Esparza does the ONLY thing she does well which is wrestler, Calvillo will probably be able to scramble/reverse her into trouble but -270 is crazy highComment -
Idk, Calderwood wanted nothing to do with the grappling and got the exact fight she wanted and still got busted up by a couple power shots from Calvillo. I personally thought she got the better of Calderwood on the feet due to landing with much more power but she punctuated 2 rounds with takedowns and near subs. If Esparza gets on top of Calvillo and tries to ride time out, she'll get subbed IMO. Calvillo reminds me of a female Brian Ortega to an extent. She is just crazy aggressive with her BJJ and transitions so well that against such a 1 dimensional fighter, she should be able to get her.Comment -
Side note
myles jury vs Rick Glenn is a big sleeper fight ... 2 very skilled guys , should be fireworksComment -
I feel like it's impossible to get a good read on this fight. Glenn looked like a brand new fighter in his last fight and Jury got a quick finish without being tested at all in his first fight after a 2 year layoff.
I have a hard time forgetting how weak Jury looked when he originally cut down a weight class.Comment -
Off topic, just checking out the MMA futures..
Anyone see these Bellator lines for next month?.. Rampage is gonna beat the crap out of Chael Sonnen...
Bellator 192 - Heavyweight 5 rounds - The Forum - Los Angeles, California First Round - Bellator World Grand Prix 2018 Heavyweight Tournament Sat 1/20 3001 Chael Sonnen +125 o2½ +105 11:00PM 3002 Quinton Jackson -145 u2½ -125 Bellator 194 - Heavyweight 5 rounds - Mohegan Sun Arena - Uncasville, Connecticut First Round - Bellator World Grand Prix 2018 Heavyweight Tournament Fri 2/16 3001 Roy Nelson +145 o1½ +125 11:00PM 3002 Matt Mitrione -175 u1½ -155 Bellator- Heavyweight 5 rounds - Allstate Arena - Chicago, Illinois First Round - Bellator World Grand Prix 2018 Heavyweight Tournament Fri 4/6 3001 Fedor Emelianenko +155 o1½ +125 11:00PM 3002 Frank Mir -185 u1½ -155 Bellator- Heavyweight 5 rounds - SAP Center - San Jose, California First Round - Bellator World Grand Prix 2018 Heavyweight Tournament Fri 5/11 3001 Muhammed Lawal +200 o2½ -170 11:00PM 3002 Ryan Bader -260 u2½ +140 Comment -
But Cub wasn't hurting him. Same deal with Guida and Moicano. His durability is a big part of the equation. He can put pressure on guys even if he doesn't hold that standup edge and eventually there's a shift and they make mistakes from the mental energy they've expended trying to fight a careful fight while reacting to his high pressure.Comment -
Took Vettori at -235. I had him capped -250-275 range so a little value on top of 70-75% chance of winning IMO was worth it.Comment -
i think cub had ortega hurt from a couple shots ... he hides it well but i think deep down he was feeling those shots from cub
he has a great skill of staying calm in all situations and his submission game is top notch ill give him that, if he started working his clinch/ take down game more id rate him higherComment -
I haven't capped Vettori vs Omari yet. Probably will watch all of Vettori's UFC tape but won't watch all of Omari's. Is there any rounds/fight I should skip to make it quicker? Sometimes the 2nd and 3rd round will look exactly the same as the first (like Jimmie Rivera's fights against both Faber and Alcantara).
Any rounds of Omari's I can skip to save time? Lmk thanks.Comment -
Full breakdown of Elliott vs De La Rosa
After winning TUF 24, many people were grumbling aboutElliott's title shot against Mighty Mouse. Elliott had already made a run inthe UFC between 2012 and 2015, going 2-4 and ending on a 3 fight losing streak.During his stint on TUF, Elliot wasn't exactly blasting the competition and wasfortunate to be on the winning side of two very close decisions against EricShelton and Hiromasa Ogikubo.
So when Elliot put on the performance of his life inthe early goings of his fight against DJ, winning the first round and stayingrelatively competitive throughout the fight (i.e., not getting blasted andsurviving to the final bell) many were pleasantly surprised by his performance.Typical of fickle mma fans, the pendulum swung in the other direction andElliot's stock rose.
Elliott was made a 2-1 favorite against Louis Smolka,who though a scrappy scrambler like Elliott, was controlled and out-muscledthroughout the fight. Elliott was again made a 2-1 favorite against flyweighttalent Ben Nguyen. This time, Elliott's wild and uncontrolled style would notwin out against the more precise striking and the technical grappling of Nguyenwho surprised most by submitting Elliott in a first round flawless victory.
To look so good against the GOAT but to look sohelpless against Nguyen has left many of us scratching our heads about what tomake of Elliott. Certainly, Elliott is a crafty and competent submissiongrappler. Against lower level fighters, he will find a way to get a submissionor control enough of the mat exchanges to get a decision. However, he does notsignificantly overpower any of his opponents (except for Smolka who seems to beone of the physically weakest flyweights to find any success in the UFC). Elliott'sstriking is also a big weakness in his game, as most UFC level fighters canoutland Elliott and force him to dive forward for clinches and takedowns.Elliott will be fighting at 135 lbs for the first time since 2011 against Mark DeLa Rosa.
DLR is a promising young bantamweight with a 9-0 prorecord. DLR experienced some controversy for not showing up to a Legacy FCtitle fight despite weighing in the day before. His opponent had missed weightby several pounds after a few weigh-in attempts and Legacy FC decided to movethe scales to a private room for a final weigh in, which seemed shady enoughfor DLR to walk away from Legacy FC altogether. Though being assured by LegacyFC that he was committing career suicide to not show up for the match, he wasquickly signed thereafter to Combate and now is making his UFC debut.
Aside from not taking bullshit from promotors, there'sa lot to like about DLR. On the feet, he's developed a sharp and mobilestriking style. Staying light on his toes, he's able to fire straight compactpunches whether moving forwards or backwards. His distance management andtiming look good, as well as his defensive guard and chin. Though sometimes hewill put his back on the fence, he has the presence of mind to circle outduring breaks in his opponent's strikes.
DLR appears to be a competent grappler, findingsuccess with single leg TDs and throws against the fence. He appears reasonablystrong for BW, matching up evenly with some opponents and dominating someweaker opponents.
His grappling will have to be on point in order tokeep Elliott at bay, however. DLR will have a significant advantage on the feetbut should expect to have Elliott hanging on him. Pushed against the cage, DLRstays composed and clinches up well. If his opponent does get him to theground, he's been able to pop back up and reverse. However, DLR has beenfighting significantly lesser competition so it is difficult to tell how hewill fare.
This question may be answered soon in the fight sinceElliott doesn't really wait around very long before putting it on his opponent.There's a good chance that a veteran like Elliott will be a bit too much forthe young DLR and we see DLR forced into positions where all he can do isdefend or tap to a submission. However, there's also a decent chance that DLRcan keep Elliott at bay with his defensive footwork and counterstriking, andforce Elliott to try to clinch against the cage, where he can make the fight a50/50 engagement and attempt to back off to strike some more. I'll be keeping aclose eye on the size difference between the two at weigh-ins to see if DLRwill have an advantage there. If there is an advantage and it plays out as astrength advantage in the cage, DLR's odds of winning increasesignificantly.
Coming in on 11 days notice, and making his UFC debut,DLR can be expected to be a sizeable underdog. Value should be on DLR at longodds and/or DLR winning by decision.
*DLR is now a +175 underdog. Was hopingfor +225 or better. Plan is to wait to see if it improves and check outhow both fighters look during weighins. Also am soliciting more info about eachDLR's wrestling/scrambling ability. If solid, then will probably be backing himhere.Comment -
I just watched tape on Rivera. Hadn't kept a close eye on him in his last few fights. Seeing Rivera as a -200 favorite I was expecting him to have both a great striking game and dominant wrestling w/ top control. But I didn't really see much wrestling. Just a few opportunistic takedowns that didn't lead to much.
I'm really wondering why Lineker is a +170 dog against a guy that looks like he's interested in standing in the pocket and banging with him. Rivera's probably got the more diverse game and may outland Lineker, but there's a reason why Lineker was asking for this specific opponent. Rivera has fought almost the exact same way for the past 4 fights and I don't expect him to do a 180 and try some Dillashaw-esque outfighting + takedown game.
This leaves a brawl where Lineker may have the power advantage and at the very least a chin advantage. Rivera seems to get dropped in every fight but bounces back up to his feet like he had rubber butt cheeks. If the fight is a close striking match then this should be 50/50. If Lineker is able to drop Rivera a couple of times, he'll win. He'll eat a few hard shots to give some, but that's what John Lineker dos Santos de Paula likes to do.
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I stopped breaking fights down in summary form, and now I just keep strengths and weaknesses I observe in the fight. For Akhmedov basically he slows down in all of his fights but he generally doesn't change much. His wild power that he has in round 1 (and it looks stronger than it is since he's failed to get finishes in a long time) fades and he starts to get hit by crisp shots a lot more. His hands get increasingly wide and loopy as he tires. He has a very strong grip when he gets his hands clasped in body lock or double legs and finishes most of TDs that way. I trust he can get those when he's tired, but he will get in deep much less often.
Vettori has deceptively good head movement and takes very few clean strikes. I don't doubt that he will be able to avoid Akhmedov's biggest strikes. He may get taken down a few times early but he fights every TD very hard and he is hard to secure on the mat so I think he will almost definitely gas Akhmedov out and take the fight over clearly in rounds 2 and 3 and maybe get the finish.Comment -
Hey
Hugo asked where Holm has the advantage and it's glaring, to me, that it is fight IQ, if not striking as well.
I consider Cyborg a total idiot like I do other Brazilian fighters and always factor that into betting their fights. ...some might call that "racist" but is it a true observation (and we'd be discussing nationality rather than race, I think)?
Cyborg in particular is really dumb...if I've had funds in my account I've bet against her every time for a long shot.
This time Cyborg is Fked I think... That drone and her Braz camp against JW and Holm is bad news!
I want to deposit to bet Holm for about 3 units but don't know if I will (pussy)...
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Cyborg might not be the brightest fighter but I've never noticed where she fights like an idiot.. She's an aggressive striker that comes forward and tries to knock out chicks.. Just that simple.. Don't need a high fighting IQ to pull that off..
If anything I think Holly Holm will have a cardio advantage.. Cyborg's gas tank I believe will be tested if this fight drags on, that's when Holly Holm I think could stop Cyborg with strikes or a head kick, late in the fight.. Can Holly Holm survive the early rounds is the main question?
My take anyways on the match up...Comment -
Have you actually watched Cyborg fight? Im not sure if you are serious.
She completely disregards any offence her opponent might have and she rushes in and knocks them out. She doesnt mind getting hit because shes too powerful.
Thats literally the only chance she ever had. I mean juicing and gaining a massive edge over anybody. Somehow that shit stayed in her system she still looks massive and her swings pack a lot of pop. But brazilian fighters in particular are notorious for being on PED's. No biggie here.
She doesnt know how to move around her opponent, poor footwork, has almost the same answer every time she actually gets hit (which is being pissed off an rush forward = low fight IQ/low IQ) and she gets away with it every time.Last edited by Sato; 12-24-17, 04:57 PM.Comment -
Cyborg has never been to the 5th round. Holly Holmes can take Victor Stones punches...Comment
