UFC on FOX 12: Lawler vs. Brown (July 26, 2014)

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  • JIBBBY
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    • 12-10-09
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    #106
    Originally posted by MarkWoodstick
    I think only one soul on the forum would even suggest that Lawler has a weak chin
    If you are referring to me Mark I do not think Lawler has a weak chin, I just don't think he has an iron chin like Firekillex suggested in an earlier post..
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    • JIBBBY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-10-09
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      #107
      Originally posted by MD
      Obviously, Phil Davis beat Nog, and Rumble beat Davis, and Davis beat Gustafsson, and Gustafsson beat Hamill, and Hamill beat Tito, and Tito beat Bader, and Bader beat Nog, and Nog beat Mir, and Mir beat Lesnar, and Lesnar beat Couture, and Couture beat Belfort, and Belfort beat Rumble.

      What is so hard to understand about that?
      Style match ups, age (when rounding 40) and current activity determine winners in fights more then who beat who, when, where and how many years ago.. Think style match ups and current activity first I say.. Stats, history, trends, and maybe even streaks should come secondary in MMA... Camps and training partners are big too...

      Anderson Silva and Michida are up in age and Brazilian as well just like Lil Nog and look what has happened to them against hot fighters in the UFC recently.. Just saying....
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      • mirinquads
        SBR MVP
        • 04-22-13
        • 3927

        #108
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        Style match ups, age (when rounding 40) and current activity determine winners in fights more then who beat who, when, where and how many years ago.. Think style match ups and current activity first I say.. Stats, history, trends, and maybe even streaks should come secondary in MMA... Camps and training partners are big too...

        Anderson Silva and Michida are up in age and Brazilian as well just like Lil Nog and look what has happened to them against hot fighters in the UFC recently.. Just saying....
        Its like taking candy from a baby...
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        • latarianmilton
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          • 12-23-13
          • 342

          #109
          Originally posted by Bumdeal
          It's Lawler's 3rd fight in 5 months. How does that factor in? I feel like it's a benefit, he's going to be comfortable in the cage. No rust there.
          this worries me too. brown has an iron will, if robbie is not 100 percent it could get ugly for him.
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          • MD
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            • 01-31-12
            • 9728

            #110
            Originally posted by mirinquads
            Its like taking candy from a baby...
            JIBBBY is the kind of guy who makes womens' maternal instincts kick in just by drooling all over himself. He's helpless like the sloth-cub.

            Also, JIBBBY, I'm clearly not going to dox you dude, c'maaaaaahn. I'm a dick, but I'm not malicious. Marz is the only guy that's happened with, and I'm sure most of you know the history there.
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            • JIBBBY
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 12-10-09
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              #111
              Originally posted by MD
              JIBBBY is the kind of guy who makes womens' maternal instincts kick in just by drooling all over himself. He's helpless like the sloth-cub.

              Also, JIBBBY, I'm clearly not going to dox you dude, c'maaaaaahn. I'm a dick, but I'm not malicious. Marz is the only guy that's happened with, and I'm sure most of you know the history there.
              MD what did I ever do to deserve this type of beautiful forum harmony that we share together???..

              In tribute to your new AVATAR pic which was long over due I will offer up this peace gesture in the pic below...
              Attached Files
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              • Wilbo86
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                • 01-22-14
                • 753

                #112
                I've never actually seen that pic before, thanks Jibby. Now find similiar ones for Matt Brown and Mark Hunt and your respect points will go through the roof.
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                • JIBBBY
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 12-10-09
                  • 83686

                  #113
                  Originally posted by latarianmilton
                  this worries me too. brown has an iron will, if robbie is not 100 percent it could get ugly for him.
                  Fighting often is a good thing I believe, if Robbie was injured or banged up from fighting 3 times in 5 months he wouldn't have taken this fight on short notice.. Too much at stake... I think that probably benefits Robbie Lawler. He's staying active.. Rhonda Rousey wishes she could fight more often to keep her sharp... Most elite fighters will tell you this.

                  I heard no reports that Robbie Lawler is injured or banged up anyways leading into this fight... Or burned out... Besides that alot of fighters get more banged up training and sparring leading up to the fights then the actual fights themselves in alot of cases..

                  None factor I think....

                  Remember back in the early UFC days the fighters would have to fight several times in one night.. That was insane!!!
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                  • imadegen
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                    • 03-30-11
                    • 1261

                    #114
                    Anyone think lawler brown goes the distance? or am i insane….
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                    • Das Jax
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 09-23-11
                      • 904

                      #115
                      Originally posted by imadegen
                      Anyone think lawler brown goes the distance? or am i insane….
                      The latter.
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                      • Wilbo86
                        SBR Wise Guy
                        • 01-22-14
                        • 753

                        #116
                        Originally posted by imadegen
                        Anyone think lawler brown goes the distance? or am i insane….
                        Originally posted by Das Jax
                        The latter.
                        Yep. One guy with brutal power and another who a strategy completely based on pushing as fast a pace a possible.
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                        • marzwoody
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                          • 01-03-14
                          • 3902

                          #117
                          Originally posted by MD
                          JIBBBY is the kind of guy who makes womens' maternal instincts kick in just by drooling all over himself. He's helpless like the sloth-cub.

                          Also, JIBBBY, I'm clearly not going to dox you dude, c'maaaaaahn. I'm a dick, but I'm not malicious. Marz is the only guy that's happened with, and I'm sure most of you know the history there.
                          I dont care, and forget about it pal, im here to talk fights and make jokes nothing more. internet wars are pointless.
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                          • Vaughany
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                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #118
                            Originally posted by Thor4140
                            Robbie has a great kicking game and will barely use it. He could chop Brown to pieces with those kicks but these guys who feel they are great boxers always stick to the Boxing. Brown has a punchers chance but i wouldn't lay anything on him.
                            Yep wouldnt be surprising. However he did throw a lot of headkicks in previous fight against ellenberger.
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                            • marzwoody
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                              • 01-03-14
                              • 3902

                              #119
                              So far im on a Jonhson, Bermudez, Lawler porlay
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                              • MD
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-31-12
                                • 9728

                                #120
                                Originally posted by marzwoody
                                So far im on a Jonhson, Bermudez, Lawler porlay


                                Kalikas-approved baby. Straight to the bank.
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                                • MD
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-31-12
                                  • 9728

                                  #121
                                  Big value on Bermudez, IMO. He's a legitimate top 10 guy in terms of skill. Could give Poirier and Cub a run for their money, and he doesn't have any big gaps in his armour the likes of which Guida could usually exploit.
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                                  • Vaughany
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                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #122
                                    yes, then you will be scratching your head at the end when Buffer reads out the scores and Guida wins split decision
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                                    • MD
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-31-12
                                      • 9728

                                      #123
                                      Originally posted by Vaughany
                                      yes, then you will be scratching your head at the end when Buffer reads out the scores and Guida wins split decision
                                      "The judges score the contest... 50-45, Melendez... 48-46, Guida... and 50-45, for the winner, by split decision...Gilbert Melendez"

                                      That second judge apparently gave Melendez a 10-8, then gave Guida every other round.

                                      Guida is magical.
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                                      • mirinquads
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                                        • 04-22-13
                                        • 3927

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by MD
                                        Big value on Bermudez, IMO. He's a legitimate top 10 guy in terms of skill. Could give Poirier and Cub a run for their money, and he doesn't have any big gaps in his armour the likes of which Guida could usually exploit.
                                        I agree, the rooster_eater just always manages to make his fights much closer than they should be, getting knocked down and brawling all over the place when he could play it safe. Guida ain't no pushover, and his wiggeling hair will always grant him at least 1 or 2 rounds he no doubt should loose.
                                        He should get outstruck and outgrappled comfortably though, and threw 3 units on the -145 line.

                                        If we can get Guida split, im gonna hit that for a little as well for a hedge.
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                                        • Wilbo86
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 01-22-14
                                          • 753

                                          #125
                                          Want to bet Bermudez but I'm still hurting from the Sanchez decision, probably stay away from a side and just bet the over...
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                                          • marzwoody
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-03-14
                                            • 3902

                                            #126
                                            I cant see how the judges can f-ck up if bermudez wins atleast 2 rounds convincingly. apparently they get mesmerised by his hair and him bounching up and down looking like hes doing more then he is.
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                                            • JIBBBY
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 12-10-09
                                              • 83686

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by marzwoody
                                              So far im on a Jonhson, Bermudez, Lawler porlay

                                              Thompson, Bermudez and Johnson in the trifecta myself.... 100 to win 170....
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                                              • teaserpleaser
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                                                • 08-14-08
                                                • 26015

                                                #128
                                                Burmudez...possibly go the distance
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                                                • JIBBBY
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 12-10-09
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                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by teaserpleaser
                                                  Burmudez...possibly go the distance
                                                  I think so - Clay is durable and so is Bermudez.. 3 round fight too...

                                                  Waiting for the prop bets to pop up for this fight on 5D myself... Guessing -150 maybe?
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                                                  • MD
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                                                    • 01-31-12
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                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                    I think so - Clay is durable and so is Bermudez.. 3 round fight too...

                                                    Waiting for the prop bets to pop up for this fight on 5D myself... Guessing -150 maybe?
                                                    You think that Guida vs Bermudez goes distance will be -150?
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                                                    • Vaughany
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                                                      • 03-07-10
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                                                      #131
                                                      Lol jibbbbeeeehhhhh
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                                                      • JIBBBY
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                                                        • 12-10-09
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                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by MD
                                                        You think that Guida vs Bermudez goes distance will be -150?
                                                        Just a wild guess, what do you think? Both are very durable and haven't been finished off in years...

                                                        Guida was last stopped in a fight in 2009, Bermudez 2011 (7 fights ago)...



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                                                        • MD
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                                                          • 01-31-12
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                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                          Just a wild guess, what do you think? Both are very durable and haven't been finished off in years...

                                                          Guida was last stopped in a fight in 2009, Bermudez 2011 (7 fights ago)...



                                                          http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Clay-Guida-8184
                                                          How about an on2thenext1-certified SBR cash moniez prop bet son? I'll even give you an edge. If it opens under -180, you win, and if it opens at -180 or over, I win. Offers like this don't come 'round every day Jibster.
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                                                          • PunisherIND
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                                                            • 02-24-11
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                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                            I think so - Clay is durable and so is Bermudez.. 3 round fight too...

                                                            Waiting for the prop bets to pop up for this fight on 5D myself... Guessing -150 maybe?
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                                                            • JIBBBY
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-10-09
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                                                              #135
                                                              Ok, just looked at the Over 2 1/2 and it's -290... MY BAD.... Wishful thinking gone wrong... LOL...
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                                                              • MD
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-31-12
                                                                • 9728

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                Ok, just looked at the Over 2 1/2 and it's -290... MY BAD.... Wishful thinking gone wrong... LOL...
                                                                Means nothing. Market inefficient, Kalikas, porlays, etc. Line probably opens +100.
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                                                                • JIBBBY
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 12-10-09
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                                                                  #137
                                                                  Complete card breakdown to help get the prelim capping going... Sorry. but yes it's another BR write up unfortunately that just came out.. Best write up i can find circulating out there with VIDS attached so far anyways I think..

                                                                  Stick to the facts rather then the predictions as I do fellas...

                                                                  Have you ever heard the phrase "give the people what they want"? That should be the name of this event. UFC on Fox: Giving the People What They Want. When Matt Brown last fought, a star was born...
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                                                                  • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                    • 11-20-13
                                                                    • 542

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                    Complete card breakdown to help get the prelim capping going... Sorry. but yes it's another BR write up unfortunately that just came out.. Best write up i can find circulating out there with VIDS attached so far anyways I think..

                                                                    Stick to the facts rather then the predictions as I do fellas...

                                                                    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...t-night-on-fox

                                                                    I dig the Bleacher Report links. I like the way they summarize the matchups and the embedded videos are a good starting point for research.
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                                                                    • MD
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                                                                      • 01-31-12
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                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by Jim_Gunn
                                                                      I dig the Bleacher Report links. I like the way they summarize the matchups and the embedded videos are a good starting point for research.
                                                                      Who are you playing this weekend?
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                                                                      • Jim_Gunn
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                                                                        • 11-20-13
                                                                        • 542

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by MD
                                                                        Who are you playing this weekend?
                                                                        I'm still undecided on many of these fights and still have to watch some video on the undercard fighters. So far I only locked in bets on the over 2½ rounds in the Thomson/Green fight and over 1½ rounds in the Johnson/Nogueira fight. For picks, I'm leaning towards Lawler ITD and Johnson, Guida & Thomson by decision. I also would like to bet Daron Cruickshank by knockout via head kick again.
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